Newsgroup comp.cad.autocad 42277

Howdy,
     I use a scanning application that scans files into TIFF formats. I
can use Group 3, Group 4, and Uncompressed types of TIFF's.  The problem
is that AutoCAD R13 for NT does not import them correctly. It imports an
object because I can list it but you can't see it at all. Anybody have any
knowledge about this because I have tried every combination of TIFF and
they do not show up? Please let me know if you have any ideas.
Thanks,
Jason Dufner
jbdufner@aol.com

Gary Lesemann wrote:
> 
> I am looking for something that will allow a group of .dwg files to be tagged
> and batched to a plotter, unattended.  I had been using treeview to initiate a
> scripted autocad session under R11 DOS but have switched to R13 for Windows.
Our program RUN LISP includes (among many others) a program to batch
plot drawings in unattended mode.  Very easy to use.
Download demos at these ftp sites
$25 + $5 s&h;
-- 
  Sierra Hermitage		
  RUN LISP - batch acad R12

  RUN LISP - batch acad R13

  DIRECTORY TAMER - Simple EDM

  BATCH PLOT - auto plot dwgs

  AUTO LOADER - alisp manage

  AUTOBMP  - dwg > bmp	

  DWGDOC - attach file to dwg

  FINDVARS - alisp helper

Thanks  to everybody who helped with my last obstacle. Everything works
great!
How about some more help?
I want to insert a text file (*.txt) into my drawing that contains 300
lines of text. I need to make sure that each line of text does not exceed
80 characters and when line 100 gets inserted, lines 101 to 200 get pushed
over to another column, then lines 201 to 300 get pushed to another column.
This is what I have so far. As you can see, I get the text to come in, but
it stays in one column.
(defun c:book ()
;(setq x (list a b))
(setq a 2.25) ;This is where I want it to start.
(setq b 21) ;This is where I want it to start.
(setq file (open "filename.txt" "r"))
(while (setq t (read-line file))
         (command ".text" (list a b) ".125" "0" t)
(setq b (- b 0.2)) ;this puts the spacing between lines.
          )
        );ends defun
I know I need to use something like "strlen" and "strcat" and others but I
don't know how.
Please help!
Thanks!!!!!
Jim Lakes
jlakes@tso.cin.ix.net
PS Has anybody thought about using "Speak Freely" or "Internet Phone" or
the likes to have a meeting with other users? Some sort of forum thing.
Anybody that wants to talk, be online at 11:00 p.m. eastern or something?
Just thought I'd throw that out there!

I recently started using Mechanical Desktop 1.1 at work.  It works good but
I haven't been able to figure out the best way to draw threaded components.
For internal threads you can specify threading options when using the hole
feature.  I really don't know what to do for external threads.  Since this
is very common in our business, I'm in trouble.
I would like to here how others are doing this before I develop bad habits
! ! 
Greatly Appreciated.
---------------------------------------
Wayne Pilgrim
wpilgri@oanet.com
Product Development Engineer
Edmonton, AB
--------------------------------------

Darrell,
If the "Add" buttion is greyed out that means that you haven't specified
the custom dictionary to write words you add.  When in the spell command,
click on "Change Dictionaries", then under "Custom Dictionary" type in the
name of your custom dictionary, which is a *.cus file.  Now you have
created a place to write your words to, and the "Add" button should not be
greyed out.  You can create different dictionaries, by using this method.
Hope this helps,
Adrian Laveaga
Nichols Research Corporation
Camarillo, CA

"Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"  wrote:
[snip]
>We are definitely looking at the possibility of including MicroStation 
>TriForma in future Academic offerings.
You must be refering to the content of
http://www.bentley.com/news/96q3/asuite.htm.
>>Besides, microstation supports almost every operating system used in the
>>real business world.  
>Yep, and even some that aren't (as in Linux.)
Any hopes of getting a Linux versions for the academic suites :)
Thanks,
Roger Jennings
rjennings@fibermux.com

I have a user who just started using R13c4 DOS. He was setting up his
digitizer(Calcomp Drawing Board III)and got to Menu Area 4. He selected
his three points and then got this message "The points selected do not
form a 90 degree angle." Well, we tried again(being more precise), same
thing.
I DL'ed the lastest drivers from Calcomp and got the same message. The
exact same setup worked fine in R12.
Someone on CIS suggested moving slightly from the target point. I think,
all the times we have tried, we've already done this.
Any other ideas?
Thanks
Charles

Bob Stirling wrote:
>In article <55tf44$7rv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM says...
>>
>>When I close autocad, it does not always shutdown properly.  It does
>>not show in the task bar but system monitor still shows processor
>>usage at 100% and NOTHING is running!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>If I press ctrl-alt-delete it shows AutoCad - not responding.  If you
>>pick it and select End Task and it closes and System Monitor Processor
>>Usage drops back down to a low level.
>>
>>What gives?
>------------
>This is also true with r13c4, NT 3.51, with more than one session running. When you close
>all the sessions, the System Monitor Processor goes to 100 percent and the system must be
>Shutdown and Restarted, to regain use of the Processor.
Under 95 I found a "work around".  It's not very practical though.  If
you do NOT select the WinTab driver for your digitizer and you select
"System Pointer".  This problem will go away.
However, you cannot use your tablet as a tablet anymore.  You can only
use it as a mouse.  I have talked with Summagraphics about this and
they stated it is an Autodesk problem.  So now we are try to talk to
Autodesk about it.
I will keep you informed.  Let me know if this fix does solve your
problem.
Thanks
Chris Christenson
CC Systems & Software
cgchris@ix.netcom.com

In article <567k86$1pb@adcmail.adc.com>,
	rjennings@fibermux.com (Roger Jennings) writes:
> "Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"  wrote:
>>>Besides, microstation supports almost every operating system used in the
>>>real business world.  
>>Yep, and even some that aren't (as in Linux.)
> Any hopes of getting a Linux versions for the academic suites :)
Yes!  In fact, until there is adequate expressed commercial interest, that's
the only place you'll see the Linux version of MicroStation.
Mark Hamstra
Bentley Systems, Inc.

vmelkote@aol.com wrote:
>This is a repost as there were no responses to my earlier post.
>I am looking for an addon program for AutoCAD R13 that can be used
>to do piping work. I have some work coming where I will need to use the
>same. Here again, I would not need some very high level stuff also
>since the requirement is a little higher than to do on plain AutoCAD.
>I will really appreciate anyone who can give me a feedback on the
>options with a rough indication of the price and your comments on the
>software. You can either post your comments here or send me mail at
>"VMelkote@aol.com" OR "melkote@mecad.uta.edu".
>Once again, I appreciate all your inputs in this regard.
>THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE -- VENKATESH.
>Venkatesh Melkote
>VMelkote@aol.com;melkote@mecad.uta.edu
Hi Venkatesh,
There are indeed some good Add-ons for AutoCAD which can be used to do
Piping Work for details you try to locate a suitable one for yourself
from the `Authorised Developers' section of Autodesk's Website 
" http://www.autodesk.com "
or look into AutoCAD Resourse Guide, where all such add-ons are listed
with their approximate prices and developers addresses.
[Note: Page 99,100,142 of Winter/Spring 1995 edition of Resource Guide
contains the names of some Piping softwares, this could be helpfull].
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

hopkins@itouch.net (Dan Guerra) wrote:
>I have installed ACAD(DOS) r12 to run within Windows 95. It's works and
>loads with one problem. The mouse does not work. The message I get when it
>loads is "digitizer disabled"
>Can anyone provide a suggestion?
>Thanks
>Dan
>hopkins@itouch.net
Dan,
You have to configure the AutoCAD R12 DOS for the mouse you are working
with, using CONFIG command at command prompt.
1)Type config command at command line.
2)Then select Configure Digitizer(option 4).
3)Then select the required driver from available digitizer list.
4)Save the changes before quiting configuration.
Now you should not face problem while running your mouse in AutoCAD R12.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

mhebert@netrover.com (Mario Hébert) wrote:
>Hello everybody!
>Does someone on this planet know if it is possible to create a real 2D
>drawing (not a slide), derived from a view of an existing 3D object, *** with
>hidden lines removed *** in AutoCAD13?
>For my purpose, a slide is not sufficient, i need a 2D drawing, which i can
>be able to osnap from. I can't believe a so powerful program -that claims it
>can do anything with drawings- can't do that!
>The purpose is to quickly create a "3d looking" drawing with simple 2D
>"captures" which don't require as much computing time as real 3d objects
>Who knows the trick??       Thank you!
Hi Mario,
Have you tried the SOLVIEW, SOLDRAW and SOLPROF commands, these commands
work in Paper Space mode and enable the user to create automatically
the Orthographic,Sectional or Auxiliary Views of the 3D-Solid model.
You can look in for futher details of using these command either in
AutoCAD Manuals or in Autodesk's white papers;
Title: Solids.arx, Solview, Soldraw,Solprof Tutorial
Document No. 735.
at Autodesk Homepage " http://www.autodesk.com  "
But a 3D model cannot be created by simply compiling together 2D drawings
(captures) of different views using general AutoCAD commands.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

POLYFORMATIQUE  wrote:
>Here is the problem: during the install of autocad r13 the system is
>blocking when copying common DLLs.in acad.err they say "sequence error
>reading iinitial allocation list"
>And now I can't anymore install AutoCAD !
>Please answer at mailto:lboucher@worldnet.fr
>Thank you
>Laurent & Quoc Cuong
Hi Laurent & Quoc Cuong,
Check for any Viruses in your machine. Run "CHKDSK/F" at the DOS prompt
and remove all the lost clusters. Also check whether the File Allocation
Table (FAT) is corrupted. And setting all this right try to install
AutoCAD again and if still no success let us know to help you further.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

John Schaap  wrote:
>Does someone know a program where i can organize my autocad files??
>I use autocad 12c4 DOS. I will use this for privite things so maybe a
>copy of a program would be ok
>--
>Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
>John Schaap, Fuller Kovako B.V.
>engineer.fuller@tip.nl
Hi John,
You can find this type of utilities (to organize files in AutoCAD) in
Website
" http://www.vmedia.com/vvc/onlcomp/autocad/software.htm " 
try to locate some for your use.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

Eternity  wrote:
>I'm would like to make solids instead of hatches for filling an area
>Does anybody know if there is a lisp or program that can do this.
>hatching makes drawings very big and can not be scaled
>I need this for make ful collor area in a drawing
You can use SOLID command to create a solid in an given area and also
use DDMODIFY or CHANGE command to asign the required colour to the solid.
This will make a full colour area in a drawing without increasing the
drawing size.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

carbajs@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (S. Carbajales)  wrote:
>Hi, I am trying to learn ADS programming on my own and I have run into a 
>problem.
>I'm using Boardland C++ 4.0 to compile my code, and Autocad r12 for 
>windows to run the application.
>I have set up the compiler (to the best of my ability) as it's mentioned 
>in the readme.ads file.  I wrote a simple sample program but I keep 
>getting an error I can't figure out how to fix.
>When I compile, for every function that I call, such as
>ads_init(), I get a  "not defined" error, and a "no prototype" warning. 
>I have included the three header files it mentions on the manual I got, 
>ads.h, adscodes.h and some other one I can't remember.
>Does anyone know what could be causing it?  I don't know much about this 
>whole topic so I would appreciate any help you could give me.
>Also, I keep reading (in the manual I got from Autodesk on ADS training) 
>about an ADS Programmer's Reference that supposedly comes with AutoCAD. 
>I can't find it, does it come with Autocad r12 for windows? If not, does 
>anyone know where I could get it?
>Your help is greatly appreciated,
>Sebastian
This version of Borland C++ was not tested with Release 12, but will 
probably work. The problem may be because you're in C++ using C calling 
convention. You may try to enclose the ADS #include statements with an 
extern "C" declaration. Something like:
extern "C" {
#include "ads.h"
#include "adcode.h"
#inclide "adslib.h"
}
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

I founded:
www.aucotec.de
Thank you all.

I am using lsl, ne2100, ipxodi & vlm with MS-Dos 6.22 to establish a 
network 
connection.  I then load Windows 3.11 for Workgroups with network 
support and 
everything works fine.  I am using all Microsoft Office products and 
have no 
trouble with any of them when accessing network drives.  However, when I 
try 
to open a drawing in AutoCAD that is on a network drive, I get an error 
that 
says something like "Too many files open" and the whole system goes 
bonkers 
and I generally have to reboot.  If I open a drawing on my workstation 
hard 
disk, everything is as normal.
If anyone can help me, please email me with you suggestion.
Thanks in advance
Anton Scott
anton@indigo.ie

Euan Evenson  wrote:
>Situation: Using ACAD13c4 in WIN95-when opening a drawing from the
>network(NOVELL SERVER) the drawing appears as a READ ONLY.
>Is there a certain workaround or solution that will remedy this
>situation?
>Please respond to eerikainen@goodfell.com or supervisor@goodfell.com
>thanks
For fixing this problem of READ ONLY files you have to set the value of 
system variable `DWGWRITE' to 1. And now when you open any drawing it 
will not appear as READ ONLY.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

Al Byers  wrote:
>I am not an AutoCAD user, but I have a requirement for bitmapped images
>(preferrably .GIF format) to be made from an AutoCAD drawing. The system
>operators are not familiar with the commands necessary for doing such
>and it is the kind of situation where I don't want to have to bug them
>more than necessary. They are running R12 on Windows (3.1, I think). If
>someone could just tell me required command, that would help alot.
>I found an AutoLisp program called "asaveimg.lsp", but it mentions
>running "RENDER" and R13. Is RENDER only on R13?
>Thanks for any help.
>--
>Al Byers                    Automation Group of Virginia, Inc.
>byersa@cfw.com              P.O. Box 1091
>540.949.8777                Waynesboro, VA 22980
Hi Al Byers,
In order to get a .GIF format image from AutoCAD you have to RENDER a
3D object made in AutoCAD first and then save that rendered image in
*.GIF format using SAVEIMG command. Now you can open this *.GIF file
in any application you want.
You can also save the rendered image in AutoCAD using the same command 
in other formats like .TGA,.TIFF,.RND if required.
[Note:To create a simple 3D model you can draw any closed figure using
PLINE command and then giving that figure a thickness using CHPROP
command and selecting the figure at select object prompt and typing
`T' at change property prompt and giving any numeric no. say 5 at 
New value prompt. Then change the view point using VPOINT command
and giving 1,1,1 at view point.Then rendering the Object using RENDER
command].
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

Kevin Keough  wrote:
>when i use the geometric tolerances with autocad R13C4 the tolerance
>"panes" come in at full scale regardless of the dimscale setting. is
>there a dim variable to set such that the tolerance block comes in at the
>dimscale?
>thanks
>steve carter
>scarter@foster-miller.com
Steve,
You are right the Geometric Tolerances in AutoCAD R13C4 comes in full 
scale irrespective of DIMSCALE setting and if you want to adjust the size
of the tolerance block in your drawing you have to do it by scaling the 
tolerance block to proper size using SCALE command.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

movpix@vaxxine.com (Mike Fancy) wrote:
>I use ACAD12 at the office.  A client has provided files which were
>created with ACAD13.
>Of course, ACAD12 won't load them.  My client says that his CAD person
>doesn't know how to save the files in a format (in their ACAD13) so that I
>can read them in ACAD12.
>Can you tell me how my client can do this?  Please e-mail me at
>movpix@vaxxine.com if you can help.
>Thanks in advance ...
>Mike
Hi Mike,
You tell your client to use `SAVER12DWG' option from FILE Pop-down menu
to save drawing made in AutoCAD R13 as AutoCAD R12 format for you.
The files saved using this command can be easily opened in R12 but some
of the R13 objects (like ellipse,spline,Mline etc.) will loose their 
properties and will be converted into R12 equivalent entities (like lines,
arcs etc) but there will be no loss of any part of drawing.
Nikhil Kaila
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//

J=F6rg Dreiling wrote:
> I=B4ve got a big problem with an Autocad drawing to be converted into t=
he
> OIV.
> I have a Drawing of a street-construction (only lines, polylines, and
> arcs). When I=B4m converting it in OIV, I only see the drawing, but I=B4=
m not
> able to get some faces.
Which version of AutoCAD are you using, what platform and how are you
doing the conversion?  I've converted 100's of files to OpenInventor and
VRML with little trouble.  You can find information on doing so in my
AutoCAD home page (below)...
-- =
    Roger Brown, P.E.       r.c.brown@ieee.org (email)
    Check out the AutoCAD Bonus Pack ...
    http://reality.sgi.com/autocad/BonusPack.html

"Mark Oliver"  wrote:
> ... does anybody have any ideas about attaching a box
> outline to a MTEXT object.
This is a relatively simple operation though the ARX API (uh, if it is
appropriate to call any ARX app "simple" :-).  One could access the
'actualWidth()' and 'actualHeight()' member functions of the AcDbMText
object, or develop your own 'BoxedText' object (either derived from
AcDbMtext or containing an AcDbMText object).
Unfortunately, the actual width and height information is not
available through LISP.  Mike Dickason has provided a 'MTEXTBOX' ARX
application (available on CompuServe, or I can email a few copies)
which will provide the extents of MText objects to LISP programmers.
-----
Frank Whaley
Autodesk, Inc.
few@autodesk.com
http://www.autodesk.com

Gary,
Thanks, for pointing that out. Out of the three of us working on this
survey one of them is female. She is actually the one whom came up with
the start of the survey. I questioned her about the wording and she said
it didn't matter. I for one am open to both male and female co-workers.
I  am not sexists at all.
Gary Lynn Kerr wrote:
> 
> To whom ever wrote that the term draftsMEN was not correct.  GET A LIFE!
> When the word men/man is used in a word it is generic and means mankind.
> And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time on her
> hands.  Also that same feMALE boss probably would not liked being
> referred to as feMALE/woMEN.  As I said before GET A LIFE!
> 
> On Sat, 9 Nov
> 1996, Jim Weir wrote:
> 
> > Peter  shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
> >
> > ->ATTENTION ALL ENGINEERS AND DRAFTSMEN:
> >
> > I'd suggest before you get out into the real world with a female boss that
> > you find another word for "draftsMEN".
> > >

Jake,
I am assuming that you have a Summasketch tablet.  There are known
problems with the Summa WinTab drivers that cause this.  Good luck
getting CalComp/Summa to fix it.
Dan
Jake wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I got digitizer a acacad d-9000 with a wintab driver for win95 for use
> with acadr13  win95 version.
> My problem is  my drawning cross is shaking like hell.
> I tried almost everything but with no success.
> 
> What's the matter did i forget something?
> 
> 
> Greetings,
--
\|/ ____ \|/ | Dan Vines
 @~/ ,. \~@  | dvines@mindspring.com
/_( \__/ )_\ | http://www.mindspring.com/~dvines
~  \__U_/  ~ |

Charles Meredith, Jr. wrote:
> 
> I have a user who just started using R13c4 DOS. He was setting up his
> digitizer(Calcomp Drawing Board III)and got to Menu Area 4. He selected
> his three points and then got this message "The points selected do not
> form a 90 degree angle." Well, we tried again(being more precise), same
> thing.
> 
> I DL'ed the lastest drivers from Calcomp and got the same message. The
> exact same setup worked fine in R12.
> 
> Someone on CIS suggested moving slightly from the target point. I think,
> all the times we have tried, we've already done this.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> Thanks
> Charles
I had a similar problem with my Hitachi.  A few things to try;
1. Unplug the digitizer and power it back up.  (cold boot for digitizer)
2. If the digitizer stores the current configuration, the cold boot might not work.
There may be a software program you can run to reset it to the normal CalComp mode. I have not 
had this happen with a CalComp but it's worth mentioning in case nothing else works.
3. Make sure that AutoCAD didn't move the pick button from it's normal position.
Cheers,
Lu
//------------------------------------------------------------------
//  When all else fails, read the book.
//  CAD\Tek Home Page: http://www.cad-tek.com
//------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm kind of crazy when it comes to detail, and I need some help here.  I
want to draw a 3D drill bit in R13, but I am not quite sure how to do it. 
I had seen a lisp routine that will allow you to creat a 3d spiral, and I
was thinking about extruding some shape along that path.  I don't know if
that will work.  First of all I don't have that lisp routine, so If any of
you guys have it, please let me know.  Also If you have suggestions how to
do this please let me know.
Adrian Laveaga
Nichols Research Corporation
Camarillo, CA

Miker  wrote:
>I am using MCAD 1.1 under WinNT.  Occassionally 
>(and no I haven't determined a pattern) when I am 
>modeling a part, then I create a drawing view I 
>notice that my scroll bars are dead.  I am forced 
>to resort to the old PAN command.  Even if I switch 
>to a new drawing and start modeling again the 
>scroll bars are still dead.
>Any ideas?
>Thanks,
>Mike
This is a knows problem inside of Mechanical Desktop.  Sadly there is
no work around for this.
Just in case you didn't know, if you are in the middle of a mcad
command, you can dynamically pan and zoom by pressing 'P' or 'Z'
respecivly.  This isn't as good as the control inside the modeling
modem but it's a resonable work around.
mjm

I've seen a press release on the AutoCAD www site, that says, a AutoCAD R13
for Windows NT 4.0 is available. We are currently using R13c4a. Are there
any differences to this version ? When yes, what is the difference ?
Regards,
Marcel

CAD: Quality, Productivity and Savings
I am interested in studies, comments, and ideas on what kind of
increase in productivity (if any) is achieved by using CAD and whether
such an increase in productivity results in any savings.
The last time that I checked, the common belief was that CAD was
contributing to an improvement in quality (one way of measuring
productivity) but not in terms of saving manpower (the bottom line for
many observers). 
As I have never really seen any study on the subject, I do not know
how widespread is such analysis and - much less - whether it is
actually the case.
Any information or comments would be greatly appreciated. If you have
the time, please elaborate.
Thanks.
Raul Martins
	**************************************************************
	Raul Nobre Martins     	Illinois Institute of Technology - IIT
	martrau@minna.iit.edu	Chicago, Illinois USA
	Phone: (312) 225-7595	Fax: (312) 225-9262
	**************************************************************

Greetings, I have recently upgraded to windows 95 and autocad 13 will
not run, first I get unable to load nsapint.dll, and then a fatal error,
I am lost, please help if you can. I have a Gateway pentium 75. Thanks.