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Subject: Re: R12 in Windows95 Doesn't work -- From: duhvinci@rockford.com (Patrick Hughes)
Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop......Threaded Connections? ? -- From: Bob Van der Donck
Subject: Re: Help, need to run acad in win95 -- From: hubu@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Arnold Pichler)
Subject: ARX -- deriving from which class? -- From: Ralf Allar
Subject: Arxload problem (help) -- From: "TERRY WILCOX"
Subject: Re: viewing acad slides outside of acad environment -- From: Bob Van der Donck
Subject: plotting spreadsheets in AutoCAD -- From: "Chris Cooper"
Subject: Re: dxfin error -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: Re: CAD: Quality, Productivity and Savings -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: hello 911??? -- From: Kathy Straub
Subject: hello 911??? -- From: Kathy Straub
Subject: Re: NT4 & R13/c4 -- From: Kathy Straub
Subject: Re: autocad geometric tolerances -- From: Roncrain@concentric.net (Ron Crain)
Subject: Re: R12 in Windows95 Doesn't work -- From: Mike Hiler
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: Jane Watson
Subject: Re: Text question - What is the var to make hollow text solid? -- From: "Arne Peder Grøvdal"
Subject: Re: Tablet -- From: henk.uiterwijk@pi.net
Subject: Pretty cash -- From: Bruce L
Subject: BLKEDIT -- From: Tim Meehan
Subject: Pharlap Problem -- From: design lab
Subject: Acad R11 DOS keeps regening -- From: ferdy@cs.vu.nl (Keler F)
Subject: Re: Autocad R13c4a does not shutdown properly. System Monitor report 100% processor usage -- From: CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM (Chris Christenson)
Subject: Problems with R13 solids. -- From: Antonio Trogu
Subject: PR: Data Conversion Package Released -- From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Subject: Re: Ethical problem -- From: Don Buschert
Subject: Re: Pharlap Problem -- From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Subject: Re: DWG -> DXF without AutoCad -- From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Subject: Re: CAD: Quality, Productivity and Savings -- From: cpollard@csn.net (Chris Pollard)
Subject: PR: Data Conversion Package Released -- From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Subject: Re: Help! Please transfer an image from .DWG for me. -- From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Subject: Re: Acad R11 DOS keeps regening -- From: Lu
Subject: <<<<<> R12dos to R13 file sizes -- From: Rick Gross
Subject: Claris CAD to DXF/AutoCAD? -- From: Jukka Kyynarainen
Subject: Re: AutoCad for the Apple Macintosh -- From: chrism1@wolfenet.com (chris matzen)
Subject: R13/C4 Error! -- From: kenku
Subject: Re: Huston Instruments Plotter -- From: chrism1@wolfenet.com (chris matzen)
Subject: OLE - Word 6.0 vs. AutoCAD R13 C4a -- From: Frode Christiansen
Subject: Wanted: Intergraph PDS capabilities in AutoCAD -- From: kibi@CAM.ORG (Algis Kibirkstis)
Subject: Large slow drawings, a possible cause? -- From: Lu
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: "Raymond G. Zinn"

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Subject: Re: R12 in Windows95 Doesn't work
From: duhvinci@rockford.com (Patrick Hughes)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 03:55:22 GMT
hopkins@itouch.net (Dan Guerra) wrote:
>I have installed ACAD(DOS) r12 to run within Windows 95. It's works and
>loads with one problem. The mouse does not work. The message I get when it
>loads is "digitizer disabled"
>Can anyone provide a suggestion?
>Thanks
>Dan
>hopkins@itouch.net
Dan,
Load your mouse driver in DOSSTART.BAT
-- 
Patrick Hughes
Engineered Design Solutions
e-mail duhvinci@rockford.com
homepage http://www.rockford.com/duhvinci
--------------------------------------------------
* Machine design, detail & build
* Cam design & manufacturing
* Machine animation
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Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop......Threaded Connections? ?
From: Bob Van der Donck
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:18:44 +0100
Wayne Pilgrim wrote:
> 
> I recently started using Mechanical Desktop 1.1 at work.  It works good but
> I haven't been able to figure out the best way to draw threaded components.
> For internal threads you can specify threading options when using the hole
> feature.  I really don't know what to do for external threads.  Since this
> is very common in our business, I'm in trouble.
> 
> I would like to here how others are doing this before I develop bad habits
> ! !
> 
> Greatly Appreciated.
> 
> ---------------------------------------
> Wayne Pilgrim
> wpilgri@oanet.com
> Product Development Engineer
> Edmonton, AB
> --------------------------------------
Regretfully, there is no automatic thread annotation for external threads
in Mechanical Desktop.
I have raised and heard this question before and the answer given was that
holes are pre-defined features which have automatic thread annotation whereas 
bolts are not pre-defined features. For bolts we reckon that the user will want to 
use library parts (like for instance from the Autodesk Partspec CD ROM) which 
could come pre-threaded. We think bolts from libraries are more common
than user defined bolts.
All this won't help you much today. So one suggestion I would like to give:
-create the threads as 2D lines in paperspace with the correct linetype and
 at the correct offset distance
-use the AMANNOTE command to turn the lines into annotations.
 That way they stay linked to the bolt when its diameter changes. 
Bob Van der Donck
Autodesk MCAD support
Switzerland.
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Subject: Re: Help, need to run acad in win95
From: hubu@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Arnold Pichler)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 11:28:41 GMT
uni00167@uninet.net wrote:
: Greetings, I have recently upgraded to windows 95 and autocad 13 will
: not run, first I get unable to load nsapint.dll, and then a fatal error,
: I am lost, please help if you can. I have a Gateway pentium 75. Thanks.
As for the Windows Version , it should run under Win95 withou any problems.
Make sure to install under Win95.
-- 
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I   H     H  U    U  B    B  U    U     <>  Arnold Pichler aka        I
I   HHHHHHH  U    U  BBBBB   U    U     <>       H U B U              I
I   H     H  U    U  B    B  U    U     <>                            I
I   H     H   UUUU   BBBBB    UUUU      <>  hubu@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at   I
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Subject: ARX -- deriving from which class?
From: Ralf Allar
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:36:43 +0100
Hi!
I'm starting to develop with the ARX-API and I'd like to know, how to
derive from an Entity.
I want to build a new entity (in this case a wall). Now, should I derive
from AcDbEntity or from AcDbCurve?
What are the dis/advantages to derive from either one?
And... does someone knows where to find some good reading or tutorial stuff about
ARX. The manual, ACAD delivered is quite unsatiesfying. 
O.K. many thanks for any hints...
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dipl. Inform. Ralf Allar          Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH
Phone:        02173/3964-223      Abt. Forschung & Entwicklung
Fax:          02173/3964-25       An der alten Ziegelei 2
        40771 Monheim

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Subject: Arxload problem (help)
From: "TERRY WILCOX"
Date: 12 Nov 1996 12:14:43 GMT
Hi there, I'm running AC13 for Win 95, Pentium 90, 32MBytes Ram.
When trying to render an object, I get an error message on the status line
which reads "Arxload failed".
Anybody out there got any ideas?.
Thanx in advance,
Terry,
wilcox@online.no
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Subject: Re: viewing acad slides outside of acad environment
From: Bob Van der Donck
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:55:43 +0100
Lu wrote:
> 
> David Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Is there any way to view slides or slide shows generated in autocad
> > release 13c4 outside of the autocad environment?
> >
> > Reply to:
> > Steve.Monser@Wyatt.com
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> If you can program in BASIC, Visual BASIC 4.0, for win95, will display
> the slide portion of a r13 drawing file.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lu
> //------------------------------------------------------------------
> //  When all else fails, read the book.
> //  CAD\Tek Home Page: http://www.cad-tek.com
> //------------------------------------------------------------------
You can also buy and use AutoCAD View. View does not require AutoCAD to be
present and can read,pan, zoom  SLD, DXF, DWG files amongst others.
Bob Van der Donck
MCAD product support
Autodesk Switzerland
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Subject: plotting spreadsheets in AutoCAD
From: "Chris Cooper"
Date: 12 Nov 1996 12:21:53 GMT
I Brought a simple Quattro Pro spreadsheet into AutoCAD R13 and then tryed
to plot it out.  The title I put on plotted out but not the spreadsheet. 
Also tryed it with Excel.  Can anybody help me
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Subject: Re: dxfin error
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:44:16 GMT
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:05:37 GMT, sprinks@mindspring.com (Daniel C.
Gassmann) wrote:
>I also had the same problem with DXFIN using an add-on sprinkler
>program. The problem was caused by the ADS programming.  The solution
>was to rename the ACAD.ADS file to 1ACAD.ADS,  start a new drawing
>with no prototype and do the DXFIN.  After the file was imported, I
>had to rename 1ACAD.ADS back to ACAD.ADS to use the sprinkler add-on.
This is because the ACAD.ADS file is loading a program for the
sprinkler add-on, and this add-on is doing things it should not.
Files loaded through ACAD.LSP and ACAD.ADS should only load a file
which adds a new command to AutoCAD.  It should not do anything which
causes the database to change, as when it does, this is the result.
To have to keep renaming ACAD.ADS just to import a DXF file is a
kludge.  One day, this file will go west.
As a matter of interest, what is the package, and who writes it?
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: Re: CAD: Quality, Productivity and Savings
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:44:05 GMT
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:32:44 GMT, martrau@minna.iit.edu (Raul Nobre
Martins) wrote:
>CAD: Quality, Productivity and Savings
>
>I am interested in studies, comments, and ideas on what kind of
>increase in productivity (if any) is achieved by using CAD and whether
>such an increase in productivity results in any savings.
>
>The last time that I checked, the common belief was that CAD was
>contributing to an improvement in quality (one way of measuring
>productivity) but not in terms of saving manpower (the bottom line for
>many observers). 
>
>As I have never really seen any study on the subject, I do not know
>how widespread is such analysis and - much less - whether it is
>actually the case.
>
>Any information or comments would be greatly appreciated. If you have
>the time, please elaborate.
One of the great myths of the computer industry.  This needs to be
qualified somewhat though ;-)
There are two areas here.  One is the production draughting
environment, and the other is the design environment.
In the production draughting environment, there is very little time
saved in producing the initial drawing.  Again here, this needs some
qualification.
With things like schematics, P&IDs;, flow diagrams, yes, you will get
savings as long as you have the necessary symbols libraries.  You can
realistically achieve improvements in productivity of anywhere up to
5:1 over conventional manual draughting.
With manufacturing drawings, the preparation of the initial drawing
will generally take as long as it would have done manually.  The time
is in doing all the trims fillets, etc.  These are things that never
required that much accuracy on the board, as you assumed many things
that the CAD program cannot and rightly so.
If you were to take an overall estimation on productivity on a typical
project mix of drawings, and remember you must also include the
computer related tasks of plotting, data backup, etc, there is little
difference between producing the CAD drawing initially and doing it
manually.
Where the savings come is in revisions, or where you can make use of
your growing databank of drawings.  Rather than do it from scratch,
you may well be able to take an existing drawing, and with only minor
changes have a brand new drawing.  Even if it is just revisions, you
can make substantial savings.  I am in the process of updating a large
number of drawings I prepared for a client.  The original drawings
were proposals, whereas they now have to be amended and made into
working drawings.  Many of these have had as many as 6 major changes
in the space of 2 days.  Had these been done manually, they would have
had to have been redrawn.  Unfortunately, the ease of changing things
encourages changes.
The other thing to note is the operators.  The proficiency of the
operator will have the greatest impact on any improvements in
productivity you might achieve.  For example, I am able to prepare an
A0/B1 or A1 sheet of manufacturing details in approximately 8 hours,
so much so that I cap the average cost per drawing at this figure.
Any overruns are my problem.  So far, things have always averaged out,
with savings passed on to my clients.  So, you may have the fastest
computers with the most powerful CAD package, but poor operators will
put paid to any savings you are likely to make.
The other area is design.  There are many applications which can
greatly assist in the design task, and this will impact on
productivity.  The point of caution here is that there is not an
equivalent manual task to compare it with.  Don't ever ask a
draughtsman or operator to estimate what something would have taken to
do manually.  You will get widely differing answers depending on what
he/she believes you want to hear.
There is a great push to solids modelling, and it has its place.
Unfortunately I have also seen it as a source of waste.  If your
machine shop cannot accept this model data, then it is simply an
additional task.  Yes it CAN minimise errors, but again, I have seen
it as the cause of more.  I was called out to a large toolmaker to put
forward a program to train their CAD operators.  The company had just
had a rather aggressive salesman try and sell them a CAD system which
worked in full 3D, and would output the data directly to CNC machines.
The problem was that none of his machines could accept such data, and
to upgrade those with such a facility would have cost him a few
million dollars.  He was simply not in a position to spend that
amount.  As a result he went with LT, and now produces god quality
conventional drawings which his toolmakers can use with the existing
machine tools.  He has seen small improvements in productivity in
production of drawings, however these were only seen once his databank
of drawings started to grow.  On the quality side, there have been
less re-works because of problems with reading dimensions.  There is a
consistency in drawings which makes it easier for the drawings to be
read on the 'shop floor.
So, yes, you can get productivity gains, and you definitely will get
quality gains.  The problem is that there are many tasks which are now
done which were NEVER done manually.  A good example is architectural
and model rendering.  Sure these were done by commercial artists,
however because you had to get them in you used them sparingly.  Now,
because your CAD program has the capability, you want to do it all the
time, not because it assists the design task, but because it looks
nice.
Anyway, now the fun starts.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: hello 911???
From: Kathy Straub
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:57:12 -0700
i hope there is a doctor in the house...this problem is getting more serious and
i have not ruled out a virus, i have quite a few sheets that are giving me
"this operation as performed an illegal..." and will close" message.  when i
use recover it tells me as it's scrolling through validated objects (handles table)
that i have invalid objects, sometimes 2 sometimes 4 and then boots me out!
whats weird is the office copy can get pulled up at the office but when
i bring it home 90% of the time it crashes with the above message. (i mean
most of the files, if it happens, it happens all the time)
i am using autocad 13 c4 with win95.  i am wondering if anyone would like
to have a copy of a couple files to see if they can "debug" them...or
tell me if i am going to have a catastophy on my hands soon.
oh where is my psychic reader when i need one?
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Subject: hello 911???
From: Kathy Straub
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:57:40 -0700
i hope there is a doctor in the house...this problem is getting more serious and
i have not ruled out a virus, i have quite a few sheets that are giving me
"this operation as performed an illegal..." and will close" message.  when i
use recover it tells me as it's scrolling through validated objects (handles table)
that i have invalid objects, sometimes 2 sometimes 4 and then boots me out!
whats weird is the office copy can get pulled up at the office but when
i bring it home 90% of the time it crashes with the above message. (i mean
most of the files, if it happens, it happens all the time)
i am using autocad 13 c4 with win95.  i am wondering if anyone would like
to have a copy of a couple files to see if they can "debug" them...or
tell me if i am going to have a catastophy on my hands soon.
oh where is my psychic reader when i need one?
thanks alot
kathy straub
aka
elmofudd@concentric.net
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Subject: Re: NT4 & R13/c4
From: Kathy Straub
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 06:04:32 -0700
i have gathered some info that may be of use to you.
hope it works
kathy straub
elmofudd@concentric.net
Procedure for configuring AUTOSPOOL:
1.  Create a directory on the C:\ drive called "SPFILES" (C:\SPFILES)
2.  If it doesn't already exist, create a directory on the C:\ drive called
"TEMP" (C:\TEMP)
3.  Enter the AutoCAD configuration by typing config at the command prompt.
Your existing configuration will appear.  Continue to press the enter key
until you are presented with a list of options (1-7).
4.  Enter option number 7 (Configure Operating Parameters).
5.  Enter option number 3 (Default Plot File), and set this option to
"AUTOSPOOL".
6.  Enter option number 4 (Plot Spool Directory), and set this option to
"C:\SPFILES\".
7.  Enter option number 5 (Placement of Temporary Files), and set this
option to "C:\TEMP\".  This is an important step for all network users,
because by default all temporary files that AutoCAD generates are stored in
the location of the drawing file.  This can cause unnecessary network
traffic and adversely affect performance.
8.  Next, create the batch file that will copy the plot file from it's
temporary location in the C:\SPFILES directory, and send it to the correct
device.  The following is the batch file I've used in my office, where I
have a DesignJet 600, and an Epson 300 Printer:
@ECHO OFF
IF %2==PLOTTER GOTO 600
IF %2==PRINTER GOTO 300
GOTO ERROR
:600
COPY %1 /B LPT1
GOTO END
:300
COPY %1 /B LPT2
GOTO END
:ERROR
ECHO "Plotting device not installed"
:END
ECHO "Plot has completed"
DEL %1 >nul
The next step is different for both the DOS and Windows versions.
Windows for R13: Type preferences at the AutoCAD command prompt.  Select the
MISC tab, and enter the "C:\SPFILES\PLOT.BAT %S %C" in the plot spooling
section.
Windows for R12: Type preferences at the AutoCAD command prompt.  Select the
Environment button, and enter the "C:\SPFILES\PLOT.BAT %S %C" in the plot
spooling section.
DOS AutoCAD R12/R13: It is necessary to modify the AutoCAD batch file to
include an additional set statement.  Add the following line to the AutoCAD
batch file before the line that includes acad.exe:
set acadplcmd =C:\SPFILES\PLOT.BAT %S %C.
Lastly, we need to check our plotter configuration in AutoCAD.  We are
specifically concerned with the description of the plot device.  In my
example, I had two plotters; The Hewlett Packard 600, and Epson
300
In order that the plot is automatically directed to the proper device, a
link must be developed between the plotter configuration, and the plot.bat.
This link is the device name, which is the last thing you enter when
configuring a plotter.  In my example the name I have given the 600 is
Plotter.  Now when I plot with the 600 driver, the plot is automatically
directed to LPT1 according to the batch file.
When the temporary plot file has been copied to the proper queue, it is then
deleted according to the end section of the PLOT.BAT.
-----------------------------------------------------
Regardless of which netware version you are running, you
don't need to capture the plotters on an LPT.  In the plot.bat you
create for using autospool, put the UNC of the plot queue instead of
LPT(x).   Example:  \\yourserver\yourprinter in place of LPT1.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Since NT does not allow Autocad to talk directly to the lpt port you must
use Autocad's built-in plot spooler. Following are the basic steps to plot
under NT:
1. configure plotter for a null port (in the configure routine supply a
period [.] when asked for a port name.
2. Under "Configure Operating parameters" select "plot spooler directory"
and set it to a valid directory, i.e. c:\temp\
3. 2. Under "Configure Operating parameters" select "default plot file
name" and set it "AUTOSPOOL"
4. exit configure and save parameters.
5. From the "Options" pull-down menu select preferences and choose the
misc. tab. In the plot spooling box enter: copy %s LPT1: /b (assuming your
printer is connected to LPT1) then exit preferences and save them.
6.  when you plot you must choose "plot to file"
TriDork wrote:
> 
> I have recently installed Windows NT 4.0 onto many workstations
> to take advantage of 32-bit functions within R13/C4.
> 
> After overcoming the Rainbow Technologies Hardware Lock
> problem, there is only one problem hangin around:
> 
>  Does anyone have a simple set of instructions to configure
> AutoCads' AUTOSPOOL which I desparately need to have active
> in order to print to my PLOTTER via the NOVELL PRINT SERVER.
> 
> I have grabbed the instructions from www.autodesk.com which
> makes us create a PLOT.BAT ... but I still cannot access
> the CALCOMP DrawingMaster serviced by print Queue //THERMALPLOT.
> 
> Any suggestions what I have to set NT's printer to?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Payne
> cpayne@pr.uoguelph.ca
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Subject: Re: autocad geometric tolerances
From: Roncrain@concentric.net (Ron Crain)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 13:08:08 GMT
In article <5678kv$98g@lex.zippo.com>, From hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in 
(Nikhil Kaila), the following was written:
> Steve,
> You are right the Geometric Tolerances in AutoCAD R13C4 comes in full 
> scale irrespective of DIMSCALE setting and if you want to adjust the 
> size of the tolerance block in your drawing you have to do it by 
> scaling the tolerance block to proper size using SCALE command.
> 
> 
> Nikhil Kaila
> //Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
Nikhil,   You should have let Kevin know that this problem is fixed in
R13C4A.
--
|   Ron Crain, Arken Designs
|   Posted 11/12/96 at 05:09
|   Roncrain@concentric.net  or
|   73437.3155@compuserve.com
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Subject: Re: R12 in Windows95 Doesn't work
From: Mike Hiler
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:15:45 -0500
Patrick Hughes wrote:
> 
> hopkins@itouch.net (Dan Guerra) wrote:
> 
> >I have installed ACAD(DOS) r12 to run within Windows 95. It's works and
> >loads with one problem. The mouse does not work. The message I get when it
> >loads is "digitizer disabled"
> >Can anyone provide a suggestion?
> >Thanks
> >Dan
> >hopkins@itouch.net
Question did you load a dos version mouse driver in you autoexec.bat.
That is the only thing I could think of that would do this. The only
reason you would need to put it in the dosstart.bat is if you are
running in dos mode. If you are using it in Win95 with an icon, You load
with the Autoexec.bat 
Good luck and let us know if you get it working
Mike Hiler
HILER@FMIS.FACMGMT.PITT.EDU
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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: Jane Watson
Date: 12 Nov 1996 13:18:54 GMT
>Gary Lynn Kerr said...To whom ever wrote that the term 
draftsMEN was not correct.  GET A LIFE!   
>And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time 
on her hands....GET A LIFE! ....snip, snip, snip!
Here, here Katarina!  
Gary, it's rather sad you feel the way you do, maybe you'll get 
a life yourself one day.  In the meantime, will you take that 
attitude with your female boss when she has to reprimand you?  
(If you don't have a female boss yet, chances are you'll 
probably have one in the future).  Get rid of your appalling 
attitude before she gets rid of you!
______________________________________________________________
Jane Watson                     |           
Mechanical Engineer             | Views expressed here
Radar Systems Division          |  are entirely my own...
GEC-Marconi Avionics            |
______________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: Text question - What is the var to make hollow text solid?
From: "Arne Peder Grøvdal"
Date: 12 Nov 1996 14:09:24 GMT
The var. is Textfill  "1" or "0"
Gargoyle  wrote in article
<5692gd$c71q@news.goodnet.com>...
> I have not use this command that often, therefor, I am coming up short on
what 
> the var is.  I know it can be done. So if you would be so kind as to post
or 
> e-mail me the proper var to make hollow text have a solid fill it would
be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Tablet
From: henk.uiterwijk@pi.net
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:08:59 GMT
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:37:59 GMT, Jake@iaehv.nl (Jake) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I got digitizer a acacad d-9000 with a wintab driver for win95 for use
>with acadr13  win95 version.
>My problem is  my drawning cross is shaking like hell.
>I tried almost everything but with no success.
>
>What's the matter did i forget something?
> 
>
>Greetings,
Hi,
I think you have the best tablet. Yes, I also have a ACECAD D9000. Do
you really have the latest driver.Look at the ACECAD-site
(www.acecad.com). You have to have the serialnumber of the tablet  at
hand. My driver is from october '96. Quiet new I guess.
Please E-mail me when you have further questions.
Are you Dutch? Ik wel.
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From: Bruce L
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:03:01 -0800
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        NSW 2137
        Australia
     3) Filomena.V
        31 Orpington St,
        Bexley Nth
        NSW
        Australia
     4) Hugo C
        Suite 35.Level 2
        330 Wattle St,
        Ultimo
        NSW
        Australia
     5) Bruce L
        P.O.Box 437
        Strathfield
        NSW 2135
        Australia        
 4) Remove the top name from the list and move the others up one
    place, and add your name as number 5.
 5) Post a copy of this article with your name at #5 on at least 200
    newsgroups. ( There are thousands of them, so post as many as
    you can!)  THE MORE THE BETTER!!!!
 6) Returns should start coming in about a week and all you have to
    do is keep the money and put the persons name on a list with the
    rest of the respondies addresses. (This makes it legal.)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 A. Your 200 newsgroup postings average about 5 responses, thats
    A$25 ( or $5)cash with your name at #5.
 B. Each person who sent you A$5(or US$1) makes 200 more postings averaging
    50 responses, thats A$250 (or $50)cash with your name at #4.
 C. These 50 people make 200 postings each thats 10,000 postings
    with your name at #3 An average of 500 responses = A$2500.(or $500)
 D. They then make 200 postings = 100,000 postings with your name
    at #2 An average of 5000 responses = A$25000.(or $5000)
 E. Finally 5,000 people make 200 postings which comes to about
    A$250,000 (or $50,000)cash with your name at #1.
 NOTE: All this happens with people only making 200 postings each
       time.... Imagine what it's like when everone posts more
       like I am!
<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  You will no longer be on the list, so take the latest list you
  can find and start all over again.
  ALL IT TAKES IS 5  A$5 (or US$1) DOLLAR BILLS, 5 ENVELOPES AND 5 STAMPS!!!
  REMEMBER HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY
  YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT, THE BASIC IDEA IS TO GET MORE MONEY
  GOOD LUCK TO ALL, PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND WE ALL WILL PROSPER.
=========================================================================================
Do't forget send the Text between "=======" to News group.The more,the better!
If you have a prolem to look at the News Group ,give a call.
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Subject: BLKEDIT
From: Tim Meehan
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:36:34 +0000
Can anyone tell me how I can get in touch with a Mr. Joe Thompson,
author of an excellent lisp routine for editing blocks WITHOUT exploding
- it is called BLKEDIT.
Tim@matthews.co.uk
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Subject: Pharlap Problem
From: design lab
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:36:40 -0500
We are currently running Win NT 3.5.1 and are trying to run an old dos
version of Autocad r12 c3.  When we try to run it under the command
prompt, i keep getting the error message, "Phar Lap error 74: Can't use
REALBREAK under this version of DPMI."  Any idea what is wrong and how I
can fix it?
Mark Strong
Design Lab Inc.
deslab@tiac.net
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Subject: Acad R11 DOS keeps regening
From: ferdy@cs.vu.nl (Keler F)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:14:19 GMT
Every few zoom ins/outs acad needs to regen the drawing completely. I
was told acad would like some more memory, so I gave it the maximum
using 'cfigphar' (hope its spelled right) of 8M. Can it be caused
by my videocard or is it something else?
My system consists of: P150, 16mb, 1G HD, DOS 6.2
BTW: Acad started regening some weeks ago very often, before that
	it worked fine on this system.
thnx
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
F. Keler	ferdy@cs.vu.nl		 VU University Amsterdam, Holland 
My HomePage	http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ferdy
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Subject: Re: Autocad R13c4a does not shutdown properly. System Monitor report 100% processor usage
From: CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM (Chris Christenson)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:41:19 GMT
smoker@fs.cei.net (Joseph M. Liston) wrote:
>"stuff deleted"
>>>This is also true with r13c4, NT 3.51, with more than one session running. When you close
>>>all the sessions, the System Monitor Processor goes to 100 percent and the system must be
>>>Shutdown and Restarted, to regain use of the Processor.
>>Under 95 I found a "work around".  It's not very practical though.  If
>>you do NOT select the WinTab driver for your digitizer and you select
>>"System Pointer".  This problem will go away.
>>However, you cannot use your tablet as a tablet anymore.  You can only
>>use it as a mouse.  I have talked with Summagraphics about this and
>>they stated it is an Autodesk problem.  So now we are try to talk to
>>Autodesk about it.
>>I will keep you informed.  Let me know if this fix does solve your
>>problem.
>>Thanks
>>Chris Christenson
>>CC Systems & Software
>>cgchris@ix.netcom.com
>Hello Chris: 
>	Just thought I would pass this on. My Calcomp DBIII does the same
>thing. I found a brute way aound the problem. I save the drawing and
>then minimize the window. I then use the end task (on NT3.51)  and
>exit the acad window. It keeps the resources from being hogged up by
>autocad. It seems to be the wintab interface from autodesk.
>	I guess they think the digitizers are going to die and we will all use
>mice. When they figure out how to give me 48 functions on a 2 button
>mouse using button menus w/ ctrl., alt. & shift  keys I will switch. I
>can pick those buttons quicker that they can find a toolbar or a
>screen menu. I though about a Pro-Mouse but it seems everyone is
>looking for drivers. 
>	By the way, I sent the problem to Autodesk, Calcomp & Microsoft  about
>a year ago when I first noticed it. Talk about fingers being. pointed.
>It looked like a Pentagon meeting at budget cutting time. :-)
>	Oh, well. I guess we will just have to workaround "The best Autocad
>ever". 
>Regards Joe (smoker)
>=====================================
>The best things in life are free.
>(except tech support)
I know it is the Autodesk WinTab driver.  I know this because I have
seen it also with using the Digital Technologies WinTab Virtual Tablet
Driver.  (BTW it is much smoother than the summasketch version).
It still does it with this driver and the Summagraphics Driver. 
I too, can Ctrl-Alt-Delete and get my resources back, but what a PIA!
thanks for the info.
Chris
Chris Christenson
CC Systems & Software
cgchris@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Problems with R13 solids.
From: Antonio Trogu
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:30:09 +0100
We are working with solids in AutoCAD R13c4, with Pentium 90 and 133
systems, 32Mb RAM, Windows NT 3.51, and having a lot of problems.
Our files are big (10-20Mb) so we are adding 32Mb of RAM to the
workstations, and within next week we should install a new Digital Alpha
Windows NT Workstation.
This should help much in speed, but we have plenty of errors that mainly
are:
- Access violation, ACIS error 1073741819, especially executing
the           HIDE command. This error depends also from the view/zoom
on wich the HIDE command is invoked.
- Error 718, trying to explode a block with solids not uniformly     
scaled. In this case that block can't even be WBLOCKed to disk.
Any help will be appreciated.
-- 
Antonio Trogu
Studio TIME S.r.l.
via Sallustio, 9/c
41100 MODENA MO - ITALY
tel. +39 59 334020
fax  +39 59 334025
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Subject: PR: Data Conversion Package Released
From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:31:51 -0600
Application Software Technologies, Inc.
GIS Solutions Group
1841 S. Ridge Road
Green Bay, WI  54304
414.499.0533
Contact: Donald MacVittie
Application Software Technologies, Inc.
Phone  414.499.0533
Fax 414.490.3218
	· For Release 9 a.m. EDT, November 12, 1996
Application Software Technologies, Inc. GIS Solutions Group announces
the release of GeoMorph.
Green Bay, November 12, 1996:  Application Software Technologies, Inc.
announced today the release of GeoMorph, it’s first product in a suite
of GIS data conversion tools designed to make translation between a
variety of GIS and CAD file formats simpler and more accessible.
GeoMorph currently translates between 7 separate GIS and CAD file
formats, including two SDTS ( Spatial Data Transfer Standard ) profiles
and 5 commercial formats. 
GeoMorph offers multi-directional translations between the formats it
supports, and will support the development of additional formats by
individual developers through the use of the GeoMorph Driver Development
Kit ( DDK ) scheduled for completion in early 1997. GeoMorph’s
breakthrough technology allows ‘drivers’ to be developed which
immediately support translation between it and all other formats
supported by GeoMorph and it’s suite of tools. 
More information on the GeoMorph suite of tools, including technical
white papers, pricing and ordering information, is available:
	· On the web: http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
	· Via e-mail: geoinfo@aztechcon.com
	· Voice: Donald MacVittie, GeoMorph Product Manager at 414.490.5910
The GIS Solutions Group will be attending and exhibiting at GIS/LIS ‘96
next week in Denver, Colorado, and will be involved in the seminars
discussing success stories related to the implementation of SDTS
encoders and decoders. 
-- 
// Donald W. MacVittie	GeoMorph Product Manager
// Application Software Technologies, Inc.
// 		GIS Solutions Group
//
// http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
// dmacvittie@aztechcon.com
//
// Visit our booth at GIS/LIS '96!
// Visit our booth at GIS/LIS '96!
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Subject: Re: Ethical problem
From: Don Buschert
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:28:41 -0700
Ian A. White wrote:
> 
> He has left things too late, and he had not dome any of the research
> he was supposed to, and so was willing to pay someone else to do the
> work, which he would then submit as his own to be graded on.
I have very little compasssion for students who procrastinate.  I had to
learn how to manage my time as a student JUST to survive!  This pays
dividends in the REAL world.
> Now, I was not able to help because I am rather busy and could not
> meet the delivery he wanted.  But, even if I was free, I would not
> have accepted it anyway.
Your a good man Ian.  This student has to learn a hard lesson.  I think
we become stumbling blocks to students when we try to take them by the
hand with their assignments.  Tutoring is one thing, but paying someone
else to do the work is another...
> I don't believe that this is a legitimate task.  From a purely
> commercial viewpoint, it would have been nothing more than a
> commission, however to me it is nothing short of cheating.
It's great to see some real integrity Ian!
> My suggestion to him was to get a copy of a menu file and follow it to
> see what it did.  I even offered to take him in some tuition, but no,
> he wanted the work to be done for him.
It's poor character on his part...the scary thing is, he's got a chance
to LEARN how to do this assignment, but he's failing to see that
opportunity...can you spot the losers?
Way to set an example Ian, I take my hat off to you!
--
Don Buschert                              don.buschert@sait.ab.ca
Facilities Planning & Design
Campus Operations & Maintenance           Fax  :  (403)284-7272
Southern Alberta Institute of Technology  Calgary, AB, Canada
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Subject: Re: Pharlap Problem
From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:43:34 -0600
design lab wrote:
> 
> We are currently running Win NT 3.5.1 and are trying to run an old dos
> version of Autocad r12 c3.  When we try to run it under the command
> prompt, i keep getting the error message, "Phar Lap error 74: Can't use
> REALBREAK under this version of DPMI."  Any idea what is wrong and how I
> can fix it?
> 
> Mark Strong
> Design Lab Inc.
> deslab@tiac.net
DPMI as implemented by NT 3.51 doesn't support any functions that allow
you to interrupt operating system code. In short, what's wrong is that
your operating system doesn't support that version of PharLap and there
is nothing you can do about it short of changing operating systems.
-- 
// Lori A. MacVittie	Senior Systems Engineer
// Application Software Technologies, Inc.
// 		GIS Solutions Group
//
// http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
// lmacvittie@aztechcon.com
//
// Visit our booth at GIS/LIS '96!
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Subject: Re: DWG -> DXF without AutoCad
From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:47:32 -0600
Bjoern B. Tenbrueggen wrote:
> 
> How can I convert AutoCad DWG files (Ver. > 10) to DXF format without
> AutoCad.
> 
> I have the possibility to use Autocad Ver.10 but that can't read the
> newer DWG files.
> So is there any software to just convert from DWG to DXF or other
> formats or are there other solutions??
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Bjoern
Application Software Technologies has just released GeoMorph, which can
translate from AutoCAD R12 DWG to DXF and vice-versa, as well as several
other commercial formats ( DGN, MIF, SHP ) and SDTS.
It does not handle R13 DWG/DXF, but since R13 handles R12 this shouldn't
be a huge problem.
You can check it out at: http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph.
Good luck!
-- 
// Lori A. MacVittie	Senior Systems Engineer
// Application Software Technologies, Inc.
// 		GIS Solutions Group
//
// http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
// lmacvittie@aztechcon.com
//
// Visit our booth at GIS/LIS '96!
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Subject: Re: CAD: Quality, Productivity and Savings
From: cpollard@csn.net (Chris Pollard)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 16:44:10 GMT
Ian A. White (waiwhite@zip.com.au) wrote:
: With manufacturing drawings, the preparation of the initial drawing
: will generally take as long as it would have done manually.  The time
: is in doing all the trims fillets, etc.  These are things that never
: required that much accuracy on the board, as you assumed many things
: that the CAD program cannot and rightly so.
There are things that one can do on a CAD system that I would defy anybody
to be able to "draw".  How can you draw a 3-D surface? I believe that it
is faster on complicated parts to do the drawing by computer because one
doesn't have to spend time figuring out hidden lines and intersections.  I
believe I could redo my drawing exam faster with Pro/E than by doing it
with a pencil.
: If you were to take an overall estimation on productivity on a typical
: project mix of drawings, and remember you must also include the
: computer related tasks of plotting, data backup, etc, there is little
: difference between producing the CAD drawing initially and doing it
: manually.
It depends on the system you use.  In Autocad it would take me days in
some cases to do a fairly simple drawing - I can do a fully detailed
drawing and generate the necessary IGES files for machining in a few
minutes now for many parts.
: Where the savings come is in revisions, or where you can make use of
: your growing databank of drawings.  Rather than do it from scratch,
: you may well be able to take an existing drawing, and with only minor
: changes have a brand new drawing.  Even if it is just revisions, you
: can make substantial savings.  I am in the process of updating a large
: number of drawings I prepared for a client.  The original drawings
: were proposals, whereas they now have to be amended and made into
: working drawings.  Many of these have had as many as 6 major changes
: in the space of 2 days.  Had these been done manually, they would have
: had to have been redrawn.  Unfortunately, the ease of changing things
: encourages changes.
The major savings are in the fact that it takes MUCH less time to do the
job, much less time to make plastic tooling, much less money wpent on
tooling mods and the parts usually fit and work first time.
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Subject: PR: Data Conversion Package Released
From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:40:29 -0600
Application Software Technologies, Inc.
GIS Solutions Group
1841 S. Ridge Road
Green Bay, WI  54304
414.499.0533
Contact: Donald MacVittie
Application Software Technologies, Inc.
Phone  414.499.0533
Fax 414.490.3218
	· For Release 9 a.m. EDT, November 12, 1996
Application Software Technologies, Inc. GIS Solutions Group announces
the release of GeoMorph.
Green Bay, November 12, 1996:  Application Software Technologies, Inc.
announced today the release of GeoMorph, it’s first product in a suite
of GIS data conversion tools designed to make translation between a
variety of GIS and CAD file formats simpler and more accessible.
GeoMorph currently translates between 7 separate GIS and CAD file
formats, including two SDTS ( Spatial Data Transfer Standard ) profiles
and 5 commercial formats. 
GeoMorph offers multi-directional translations between the formats it
supports, and will support the development of additional formats by
individual developers through the use of the GeoMorph Driver Development
Kit ( DDK ) scheduled for completion in early 1997. GeoMorph’s
breakthrough technology allows ‘drivers’ to be developed which
immediately support translation between it and all other formats
supported by GeoMorph and it’s suite of tools. 
More information on the GeoMorph suite of tools, including technical
white papers, pricing and ordering information, is available:
	· On the web: http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
	· Via e-mail: geoinfo@aztechcon.com
	· Voice: Donald MacVittie, GeoMorph Product Manager at 414.490.5910
The GIS Solutions Group will be attending and exhibiting at GIS/LIS ‘96
next week in Denver, Colorado, and will be involved in the seminars
discussing success stories related to the implementation of SDTS
encoders and decoders. 
-- 
// Donald W. MacVittie	GeoMorph Product Manager
// Application Software Technologies, Inc.
// 		GIS Solutions Group
//
// http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
// dmacvittie@aztechcon.com
//
// Visit our booth at GIS/LIS '96!
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Subject: Re: Help! Please transfer an image from .DWG for me.
From: "Lori A. MacVittie"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:00:25 -0600
Doug Julien wrote:
> 
> 100K is Tiny.  I suggest yu post it as an attachment and someone may get interested
> enough to see what it's about.
> 
> >I don't have Autocad,
> > and have searched to no avail for a utility on the net which would read
> > .DWG and write to something else. The image weighs in at just under 100K,
> > and if someone would help me out by translating it, I would be very grateful.
Application Software Technologies, Inc. has released commercial software
available which converts from R12 DWG to R12 DXF, MicroStation DGN,
MIF/MID, SHP, SDTS TVP and TNP.
I have been unable to find the original poster - if s/he would like to
get in touch with our Product Manager, Donald MacVittie 
( dmacvittie@aztechcon.com ), he may be able to work something out for 
this single file.
Good luck!
-- 
// Lori A. MacVittie	Senior Systems Engineer
// Application Software Technologies, Inc.
// 		GIS Solutions Group
//
// http://www.aztechcon.com/geomorph
// lmacvittie@aztechcon.com
//
// Visit our booth at GIS/LIS '96!
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Subject: Re: Acad R11 DOS keeps regening
From: Lu
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:10:32 -0800
Keler F wrote:
> 
> Every few zoom ins/outs acad needs to regen the drawing completely. I
> was told acad would like some more memory, so I gave it the maximum
> using 'cfigphar' (hope its spelled right) of 8M. Can it be caused
> by my videocard or is it something else?
> 
> My system consists of: P150, 16mb, 1G HD, DOS 6.2
> 
> BTW: Acad started regening some weeks ago very often, before that
>         it worked fine on this system.
> 
> thnx
> 
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> F. Keler        ferdy@cs.vu.nl           VU University Amsterdam, Holland
> My HomePage     http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ferdy
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Hi Keler,
Check the value for VIEWRES and see if "fast zooms" is enabled.
Cheers,
Lu
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//  CAD\Tek Home Page: http://www.cad-tek.com
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Subject: <<<<<> R12dos to R13 file sizes
From: Rick Gross
Date: 12 Nov 1996 17:07:54 GMT
My son-in-law got a new p166/Win95 at work and loaded their R12 dos
package until the R13 windows package arrived. He works mostly in 3D
and had created several not too complex drawings in DOS mode on that
system. The drawings were 12-20mb in size. We thought they were that
large due to 3D. When R13 was installed the drawings were accessed and
converted properly and saved with no problem in R13 format with only a
slight increase in size. When serious doubts arose about the size of the
files he re-created a 19mb drawing from scratch in R13 and saw the new 
file was 132k. The Question is/are why the huge discrepencacy in file 
sizes? Does he need to re-create all his drawings to get them down to a 
reasonable size? Any help is appreciated.
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Subject: Claris CAD to DXF/AutoCAD?
From: Jukka Kyynarainen
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:25:26 GMT
Does anybody know how to translate Claris CAD files into DXF?
The program Claris Graphics Translator which could do the job
is no more available. Does anybody have it?
Jukka Kyynarainen
CERN
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Subject: Re: AutoCad for the Apple Macintosh
From: chrism1@wolfenet.com (chris matzen)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 17:54:10 GMT
In article <569cf6$817@news1.halcyon.com>, jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis
Shinn) wrote:
> essel_nk@euronet.nl (Paul Esselink) wrote:
> 
> >Hello anybody,
> 
> 
> >I heard from some people that there was a version of autocad for the
> >Macintosh. Can somebody help my to get it...!!!
---------<<<<<<
> I believe there was a MAC release for R12 AutoCAD but I'm not sure about R13.
> 
> 
> Dennis Shinn
------<<<<<<
I guarantee there is R12.14 for the Mac, becauwe I'm running it now with
System 7.5.1 on a Quadra 660AV 16/230- 2xCDi.
Apple and AutoDesk together decided NOT to produce R13 for Mac.
 Scuttlebutt is that AutoDesk wanted Apple to pay the R13 development
costs,and Apple refused.
chris
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Subject: R13/C4 Error!
From: kenku
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:55:55 -0500
[ Preliminary info: ]
I have created a drawing in AcadR13 C3 running under Windows 3.11.
AutoCad paths are:  c:\acadr13\common
[ Changes: ]
My workstation has just been upgraded to AcadR13/C4 running under 
Windows NT 4.0.
Autocad paths are:  c:\r13\com
[ The Problem ]
Accessing the drawing under the new configuration gives me the
error that it cannot find c:\acadr13\common\fonts\romans.shx
font file.   
Temporarily I recreated the old path and copied over the fonts, 
that works!
BUT, when the drawing hits around 42% loaded into acad, I get
an error that has never come up before:
   !dbobji.cc@4283:eNotOpenForWrite
Any suggestions?  Help!
It seems that the drawings hold their paths within the DWG file?!
Regards,
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Subject: Re: Huston Instruments Plotter
From: chrism1@wolfenet.com (chris matzen)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 17:57:16 GMT
In article <5682u8$s1p@althea.ucs.uwplatt.edu>, sieberth@uwplatt.edu (B.
Sieberth) wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Has anyone out there heard of a Huston Instrument Plotter??
> 
> We have a   DMP-40 Series Plotter and would loike to use it onder Win 3.11, 
> and Win NT 4.0.   Is there anywhere that I can find a driver for this!!!!
> 
> Any help would be great!!
> 
> (respond by e-mail please)
> 
>         Bernd
> 
> 
> 
> sieberth@uwplatt.edu
> University of Wisconsin-Platteville
-----------
Houston Instruments is now owned by Summagraphics. Just search the net for
Summagraphics and you will soon find their URL.
chris_matzen@dbug.org
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Subject: OLE - Word 6.0 vs. AutoCAD R13 C4a
From: Frode Christiansen
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:39:48 +0100
Hi there,
I have experienced an odd new problem with AutoCAD r13 C4a on Windows NT
3.51, sevicepack 5.
When doubble-clicking on the an AutoCAD object in Word 6.0, it brings
the picture into AutoCAD for editing. I can also update the picture in
Word  when working in AutoCAD. 
BUT, when I'm finished, I usually use the "NEW" command in AutoCAD, and
then return to Word. This is no longer possible ! The New command in the
File meny is greyd out.
Now I have to exit autocad or open another DWG to stop editing the
picture. This is timeconsuming and irritating.
Does anyone have a clue ??
Thanks in advance
-- 
Frode Christiansen
============================================================
My company cannot be held responsible for any technical or
economical commitments made in this document.
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Subject: Wanted: Intergraph PDS capabilities in AutoCAD
From: kibi@CAM.ORG (Algis Kibirkstis)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 13:16:30 -0500
Are there any AutoCAD third-party applications that offer these
capabilities for the AEC (plant design) industry?
- 3D drafting of structures, services, equipment and access volumes;
- Clash (interference) checking;
- Extractions of sections of such 3D models for 2D deliverable drafting.
Algis Kibirkstis
kibi@cam.org
-- 
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Subject: Large slow drawings, a possible cause?
From: Lu
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:50:05 -0800
Before you use GIFIN, TIFIN, etc;
I think I recall stating that one should not "experiment" with working 
drawings.  In this case, I wasn't experimenting, but;
I am detailing a sheet metal assembly for a client.  The only 
documentation that exists is a few shop sketches.  When I went to pick up 
the work, I used a digital camera to take some pictures for reference. 
Some specs;
60mhz Pentium, 16 meg ram
Diamond Stealth Pro/2 meg video ram
ACAD r12 DOS
Picture: 756 x 504, 256 color (171k GIF file)
Origional drawing size: ~172k
There were a few unclear details so I thought use the GIFIN command to 
import one of the views for reference.  Bad idea!  
I ran the GIFIN command, after about 5 minutes of disk thrashing I 
decided that this was not going to be worth while.  I pressed control c 
and waited another 10 or 15 minutes for the command prompt.  My drawing 
is now more than 17 meg and I don't think I can save it!  Any ZOOM option 
takes longer than I care to wait and I will only loose about 15 minutes 
of work by using my BAK file.  So far, I have wasted an hour and a half 
trying to save it.
This was rather a large picture file though.  I have used smaller ones in 
the past with no trouble.  For the record, I'm not suggesting that one 
not use these commands, just be aware of the possible problems that could 
occur.
Cheers, 
Lu
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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: "Raymond G. Zinn"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:39:29 -0800
Gary Lynn Kerr wrote:
> 
> To whom ever wrote that the term draftsMEN was not correct.  GET A LIFE!
> When the word men/man is used in a word it is generic and means mankind.
> And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time on her
> hands.  Also that same feMALE boss probably would not liked being
> referred to as feMALE/woMEN.  As I said before GET A LIFE!
> 
> On Sat, 9 Nov
> 1996, Jim Weir wrote:
> 
> > Peter  shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
> >
> > ->ATTENTION ALL ENGINEERS AND DRAFTSMEN:
> >
> > I'd suggest before you get out into the real world with a female boss that
> > you find another word for "draftsMEN".
> > >
!!!!!! AMEN !!!!!!!
People who try to change a language to suit their views should study the
lexicon of it first. Words do not mean what we want, they mean what are.
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Respectfully
Raymond G. Zinn
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November 12, 1996
1:39 pm
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