Subject: Re: ACAD12-Editing ACAD.MNU
From: wegine@top2.ficnet.net.tw (Wegine)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:50:56 GMT
"David E. Gonsalves" wrote:
>You need to go and delete the acad.mnx file (back it up first of course).
>What you're dealing with is a lock file that occurs when you crash out of
>ACAD. You probably crashed a while back, and the .mnx file was created,
>and until you changed the .mnu file, it will work just fine, but when you
>try to recompile, it finds the lock file and stops in it's tracks.
>Hopefully this will work for you, if you have any questions, feel free to
>email me.
>David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
>delliottg@olywa.net
>RNJ Higa, LPLS wrote in article
><328CB6CA.A83@maui.com>...
>> After editing c:\acadwin\support\acad.mnu, then openning autocad, I get
>> the following message: "Unable to lock file c:\acadwin\support\acad.mnx
>> A temporary lock exists. File locked by multiple readers. at 0:00 on
>> 0/00/0.
>>
>> The prompt line reads: error compliling menu c:\acadwin\support\acad.mnx
>> *Invalid*
>>
>> WHY ISN'T THE ACAD.MNX FILE BEING LOADED ????
>>
>>
Try delete ACAD.MNK file.
Subject: Re: Linewidth display "wish" for R14
From: mountain@netusa.net (MountainGoat)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:29:39 GMT
This is an unbelievably surrealistic thread. Did any of you ever take
a drafting class or work with a professional? At the risk of sounding
arrogant, I can immediately tell an entry level drafter from an
advanced by their use of line weight. While Sr. Reyna makes a valid
point below with the monitor resolution issue, it's only valid when
viewing from a certain distance. I would much rather view my lines as
they are (WYSIWYG, eh?) than have to interpret their color (either for
myself or for a client) to their actual line width.
cdm
On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:53:07 -0800, "Miguel E. Reyna"
wrote:
>One question:
>
>Is it possible to display lines (Monitor: 72 dpi) in the
>width they would appear on a plot (Plotter: 600 dpi)?
>
>If it isn't possible: WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEE LINE WIDTHS !!!
>
>--- JUST SAY NO TO LINE WIDTH ---
>
>Miguel E. Reyna
>Multimedia Division
>PentaCAD CIS, C.A.
>Caracas, VENEZUELA
>
>Tony Tanzillo wrote:
>
>>
>> FWIW, Intergraph Imagineer supports linewidth attributes
>> which can be supressed. I'm going to be posting a product
>> review of Imagineer on my website soon. I've not been this
>> excited about a CAD program since Autodesk first released
>> AutoCAD 2.18 (the first to have AutoLISP).
>> --
>> /*******************************************************/
>> /* Tony Tanzillo Design Automation Consulting */
>> /* Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization */
>> /* --------------------------------------------------- */
>> /* Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and */
>> /* Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13 */
>> /* --------------------------------------------------- */
>> /* Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine */
>> /* --------------------------------------------------- */
>> /* 71241.2067@compuserve.com */
>> /* tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net */
>> /* http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt */
>> /*******************************************************/
>>
>> Ian A. White wrote in article
>> <328860c6.20575600@news.zip.com.au>...
>> > A message came through a few days back where the writer "wished" that
>> > R14 displayed lines in the width they would appear on a plot.
>> >
>> > If Autodesk is listening (reading?), and I believe they are, PLEASE
>> > ONLY IMPLEMENT THIS AS AN OPTION. Do not force this on us like the
>> > ability to assign a separate LTSCALE to every object as was done with
>> > R13. All this has done is increase the size of the drawing, and
>> > everyone I have spoken to who uses R13 (and there are not that many
>> > ;-)) only ever uses one value for LTSCALE anyway.
>> >
>> > WYSIWYG is the reason being put forward for showing line widths.
>> > Don't confuse WYSIWYG in a wordprocessor with what you believe you
>> > will get in CAD. When was the last time you zoomed in in a
>> > wordprocessor like you do in CAD? In CAD you may have to zoom in to
>> > check the intersection of two objects, however all line widths will do
>> > is make such resolution impossible.
>> >
>> > If you want to provide a WYSIWYG plot preview, then by all means do
>> > so. Just PLEASE don't force users to have to work with linewidths all
>> > the time. Yes, there are programs which work this way, and I have
>> > probably spent more time correcting supplied drawings from such
>> > programs because of this.
>> >
>> > I suppose one "benefit" of showing line widths will be to show those
>> > CAD managers how absurd using some half scale patterns are, as with
>> > the pens used, the lines would dashes would merge anyway. No, this is
>> > not sufficient reason for implementing it.
>> >
>> > Don't use the streaker's excuse..."It seemed like a good idea at the
>> > time".
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Ian A. White, CPEng
>> > waiwhite@zip.com.au
>> > WAI Engineering
>> > Sydney 2000
>> > Australia
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
Subject: Re: printing
From: Desi Moreno
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:35:18 -0800
Amalia Donde wrote:
>
> hi,
> i'm using autocad release 12 and when i try to print i get a message
> saying:"printer may still be in local mode" the printer i'm using is a
> hp laserjet 4L. any ideas what this means?
> thanks
> amalia
Amilia, does the printer work with other programs? if not, it could be a bad connection
if it works other programs, then go back to the config in autocad, and double check your
settings.
--
Mr. Desi Moreno http://www.invsn.com/desmos/autolisp.htm
Engineering Technician
dmoreno@vs1.invsn.com desim@mid.org
Subject: Re: Newbie Question on Shrinking Shapes
From: Desi Moreno
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:28:39 -0800
Roger Newey wrote:
>
> Hello Group,
> I've inherited some semiconductor drop-in test device drawings in
> Autocad and my clent needs to do a device shrink.
>
> Please can someone point me to the best technique to do an initial
> merge/fill of touching polygons so that the shrink does not create
> gaps between the previously adjoining shapes.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Post and/or e-mail to rnewey@nthdegree.com
> Roger Newey (602) 945-1001
> Nth Degree Engineering = rnewey@nthdegree.com
If I nderstand your question right, you have your clients drawing that you're inserting
into your drawing, and you want to scale this device down in size. You can scale the intire
block without loosing any proportion. I would do this first, then join to the existing
shapes
I hope this is what you were wanting
--
Mr. Desi Moreno http://www.invsn.com/desmos/autolisp.htm
Engineering Technician
dmoreno@vs1.invsn.com desim@mid.org
Subject: Re: How can i draw a screw or a spiral with Autocad??
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:02:02 GMT
"Tony Tanzillo" wrote:
>....HELIX.LSP f
.....
>This will let you draw a helical form that you can use for
>extrude or rulesurf.
A number of people have suggested this and I've tried, in vain, to sweep a
closed triangular polyline representing the "v" shape of a thread root along the
helix. Nothing wrong with the helix, it's the way AutoCAD rotates the shape
through the curve that's the problem.
Circular sections seem to sweep without this problem, but triangular, or
rectangular shapes are not maintained perpendicular to the axes of the polyline
segments a they are extruded. The end up being rotated, or perhaps *not* rotated
about the z axis correctly.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: Newbie Question on Shrinking Shapes
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:01:59 GMT
rnewey@nthdegree.com (Roger Newey) wrote:
>Hello Group,
>I've inherited some semiconductor drop-in test device drawings in
>Autocad and my clent needs to do a device shrink.
>Please can someone point me to the best technique to do an initial
>merge/fill of touching polygons so that the shrink does not create
>gaps between the previously adjoining shapes.
I have no idea what the shape of these objects is like, but if you select them
all, then use the "scale" command and pick any convenient point, they will, or
should scale down as a group retaining their relative position and distance from
each other.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: complex linetypes with r13
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:01:30 GMT
This is not in reply to the original message that began the thread. What I would
like to know is if anyone has had any success in using MLEDIT to actually fillet
and join multi-line objects? Especially mitered corners.
I've created an mline style to represent a regular interior stud wall partition;
offsets 2.25, 1.75, 0 -1.75 and -2.25 to represent 3-1/2" studs and 1/2" drywall
each side. If I draw one mline then another (not a continuation of the first)
perpendicular to it, the MLEDIT dialog offers a mitered corner option which
intuition tells me should form a miter of all five lines.
Doesn't happen reliably.
Do mlines submitted for the MLEDIT options have to have the same
"justification"? in order to miter properly? If I break an mline using the
mledit break-all tool, the two parts still act as one; a miter command will drop
the other section as well in making the miter:
cont. mline broken here
______________ __________
______________ __________
| |
| |
| |
MLEDIT corner or miter option produces:
________________
_______________ | remaining section
| | of cont. mline is
| | deleted
Evidently what's happening is the broken mline is still considered a signular
object in the database as opposed to a pline, when broken, becomes two separate
entities.
Second dumb question .....
When editing an mline style, I select save in the mlstyle dialog but the changes
aren't saved the name of the style. If I try to add the same name, Acad returns
invalid name since the name already exists.
Now the most bizarre thing is if I edit the mline properties, save, and then try
to "Load" the mline style I just edited, the Load Multiline Styles dialog tells
me it's invlalid as well.
So I open the .mln file in the drawing directory and look what I find! Every
time I edited the mline style the changes were saved to the file appended onto
the end.
I'm afraid I don't quite understand the process here. I've included the contents
of a single mline style definition as written by the mlstyle dialog. When I
select "Load"in the mlstyle dialog after defining this, I get "Invalid style".
I've all but given up on this mline thing.
MLSTYLE
2
INT-WALL
70
0
3
Interior stud framing
62
0
51
90.00000000000000
52
90.00000000000000
71
5
49
2.250000000000000
62
8
6
BYLAYER
49
1.750000000000000
62
63
6
BYLAYER
49
0.000000000000000
62
1
6
CENTER2
49
-1.750000000000000
62
63
6
BYLAYER
49
-2.250000000000000
62
8
6
BYLAYER
0
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: AutoCAD can do anything (well almost)
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:01:14 GMT
smoker@fs.cei.net (Joseph M. Liston) wrote:
>jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn) wrote:
>>rurban@xarch.tu-graz.ac.at (Reini Urban) wrote:
>>>Most of those zombies cant even be viewed or printed without the app.
>>Lord help us if this idea catches on.
> I can imagine what will happen to the AEC industry. When we send
>drawings to consultants for them to work on (like HVAC, elec,
>plumbing.....)
I can understand the overriding principle that the application *must* be present
in order to perform any editing on the object. Otherwise, the converse would be
true as well - we send a drawing to a consultant for the addition of
information. They for one reason or another end up moving a door or column or
hole location in a piece of plate. We get the drawing back, load their work and
the thing goes bananas on us. It's best not to let the other party have access
to editing functions with respect to *our* data. That also serves to add a
degree of security to the drawing as well.
Where it's a royal pain is not to be able to even _recognize_ the geometry of
the object outside the application. I have no problem with the HVAC guy running
an app that draws in her mechanical units, ductwork, pipining and the like that
I can't move, erase or otherwise modify. But I'd sure dislike not being able to
dimension off of it or in some manner locate *my* work in relation to it.
I haven't seen anything of the Mechanical Desktop since it was first introduced
.. perhaps they've "fixed" this. In the event that they haven't, let's hope it
dies a swift death at least in its current form.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: area/raster fun
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:01:19 GMT
Michael Alan Black wrote:
>I have imported the image using gifin. No problem.
>I have plined the enclosed area in which I am interested in. No problem.
>But, when I go to use the Assist,inquiry, area, object command, it tells
>me that the selected object does not have an area. It doesn't want to
>calculate it.
I suspect that you may not be selecting the polyline as the object being
submitted to the AREA command. When you select it, is the polyline highlighted
indicating that you indeed did select it and not the GIF image?
Try putting the GIF image on another layer and freeze it, isolating the polyline
making it easier to select.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: HELP-non-alphabetical layers listing
From: ANDREWS@MT.MSM.CERN.CH (Christopher ANDREWS)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 07:38:11 GMT
In article <56jhre$s3i@lex.zippo.com>, hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in says...
>
>rider@freemark.com (Rider) wrote:
>
>> Sometimes my layers are listed non-alphabetically in the
>>DDLMODE dialog box. This only happens on my Pentium machines. I am
Try checking the MAXSORT system variable, it determines the maximum size of a
sorted list and can affect various dialogue boxes, usually File Open. It is
set by default to 200, if you have more than 200 layers! then this is probably
the reason. Set it to a bigger value.
Chris Andrews.
CERN,
European Laboratory for Particle Physics,
1211 Geneva 23,
Switzerland.
voice : + 41 22 767 52 13, fax : + 41 22 785 10 63
email : Chris.Andrews@CERN.CH
> Sometimes my layers are listed non-alphabetically in the
>DDLMODE dialog box. This only happens on my Pentium machines. I am
>running r12c2 for DOS under Windows 95 from the DOS mode. Does
>anyone have an explanation or a fix for this?
>Thanks,
> Dallas W.
Subject: Re: our firm must use mtext
From: Miles Constable
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:34:38 -0800
Tony Tanzillo wrote:
>
> If you're planning on using TrueType Fonts with MTEXT,
> then you should be aware that there are serious problems
> with the built-in MTEXT editor and TrueType fonts.
>
> To see what I mean, enter a paragraph of MTEXT (about 100
> words or so), then invoke DDEDIT, pick the new mtext, and
> in the MTEXT editor window, select all the text, then
> change it to the Dutch TrueType font, click OK. Exit and
> restart DDEDIT, and pick the same text again.
>
> On my system, the above procedure causes AutoCAD to go
> comatose, and leaves you staring at an hourglass cursor,
> with no recourse other than to kill the task using Ctrl-
> Alt-Delete (read: DATA LOSS)
I too have encountered a similar situation - deciding to use a TTF for
a "table" of data that was 8 columns by 40 rows. Could have (should
have) gone for coffee. But AutoCad did finally come back from it's nap
(something like five minutes later). I at first thought it had to do
with my older processor. Now I just don't use TTF unles I absolutely
have to.
--
smilin' Miles Constable ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ miles@triumf.ca
"... destroy the face of stupidity and corruption and
put up in its place an edifice of truth ..."
~~ anyone know the source of this quote?
Subject: Re: our firm must use mtext
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 18 Nov 1996 12:11:40 GMT
Autodesk Plans on eliminating all forms of text except for
MTEXT (e.g., no regular single-line TEXT/DTEXT, and block
insertion attributes will also be MTEXT as well).
Well, I've seen them make bigger blunders...
They call it MTEXT, I just call it TEXT from hell.
--
/*******************************************************/
/* Tony Tanzillo Design Automation Consulting */
/* Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/* Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and */
/* Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13 */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/* Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/* 71241.2067@compuserve.com */
/* tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net */
/* http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt */
/*******************************************************/
Dennis Shinn wrote in article
<56p1u2$72p@news1.halcyon.com>...
> Bates Smart Architects wrote:
>
> >My concern is that a decision has been made to disable (or certainly
make it difficult to use) dtext.
> >All text in the office will be created using mtext.
>
> .....
>
> ......
>
> >The obvious advantage is that all text in the office is of one type.
Are there any hidden
> >disadvantages to this?
>
> Personally I believe mtext was devised to provide a means of providing a
certain
> level of text processing within the drawing editor. I wasn't, again in my
> opinion, intended to be used for single line notation. The time it takes
to
> bring up the text editor box along with rather rediculous necessity to
> physically "mouse" the OK button instead of a tab operation between the
various
> dialog box options as in the standard Windows interface makes mtext
slower in
> these instances .... in my opinion.
>
> You will also generate an anonymous block for each text insertion which
adds
> some unnecessary fluff to the drawing.
>
> I don't think it's a decision that was very well thought out. There are
better,
> more efficient ways to insure consistency in drawing text.
>
>
> Dennis Shinn
> Seattle AutoCAD User Group
> SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
> CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
>
>
Subject: Re: Simple, quick question - opening drawing files
From: "Shiong"
Date: 18 Nov 1996 13:22:48 GMT
Right click on "ACAD" icon (where you start AutoCAD), choose "property",
there is a place to type which directory you will start. Sorry can't tell
you the exact title, since I use Chinese version of WIN95.
Shiong
Kevin Wang ¦¸¼g¤J¨ì¥DÃD
<01bbcee3$48a21360$8f3bd4cc@primenet.primenet.com>...
> Hi there,
>
> I'm new to AutoCad R13, and was wondering if there is any option when you
> open files, to point to a specific directory (Click on File/Open and it
> goes to the folder with all my drawings). Please drop me a note at
> kevin_wang@warnerbros.com if you know. Thanks!
>
> Kevin
>
Subject: DIRECT PLOTTING W/ R13C4 WIN95, TO ANY HP DEVICE
From: "MODES"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:51:33 GMT
To anyone who may have figured this one out,
My configuration is as follows R13c4 under win 95 /Novell 4.10 NOS
using HP650C, HP600, HPLJ4, HPLJ5P, HPLJ5L, CANNON BJ-230
all attached to server(s) via direct net and parallel print servers. All
devices are properly set-up in WIN 95 and R13. The only device I can print
directly to without R13 locking up is the CANNON by making it WIN 95
default and R13 "system printer" using Control Panel defaults and my ped
table settings. "Great, no problem", but, R13 locks up if I attempt to
send print data to any other device. These as mentioned are all configured
and function properly (if I NPRINT .plt files), but R13 hangs when you
click ok or hit enter. I have read an article by George Head in Aug. 96
CADENCE and aparently he finds that he's screwed also. My question then is
why can I use a non HP driver and configuration setting with full
functionality w/ R13 Win95 and Novell 4.10 and not with any HP stuff (using
HP hardware too).
It tends to frustrate you then so called "EXPERTS" as well as hardware
manufacturers don't know. I have come up with many self help fixes and
gotten advice from other lowly Sys Admin.'s and will use any helpful
advice I recieve. Post and Re. in this group or E-mail me at
MODES@NETDOTCOM.COM thanks.
Regards and Luck!
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Date: 18 Nov 1996 13:56:22 GMT
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If you find Software Age useful, BOOKMARK the site for future reference.
Subject: Help!!
From: Pedro Maciá
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:51:43 +0100
I´m programmer in ADS and ARX for Autocad.
I have a problem with the printer.
I want use the system printer for to take out listings.
I'm used this code for to do it iin MSDOS mode.
short ImprimirCodigos(char *nombre)
{
FILE *imp;
if (*nombre != '\0') // This for a file
{
imp = fopen(nombre, "w");
if (imp == NULL)
return RTNORM;
}
else // this for the printer. i use the stream "stdprn"
imp = stdprn;
Well, if i want to print in Windows with this system, i don´t can to do it. I´m tried to do it with the visual
C++ object, "CDC", (CDC -> CreateDC, etc), and i don´t can neither.
Please, anyone would can help me.
thanx.
P.D. Sorry for my english, is very bad.
Subject: Help!!!
From: Pedro Maciá
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:55:28 +0100
I´m programmer in ADS and ARX for Autocad and Autocad "RAD", (Registered Autodesk Developper).
I have a problem with the printer.
I want use the system printer for to take out listings.
I'm used this code for to do it in MSDOS mode.
short ImprimirCodigos(char *nombre)
{
FILE *imp;
if (*nombre != '\0') // This for a file
{
imp = fopen(nombre, "w");
if (imp == NULL)
return RTNORM;
}
else // this for the printer. i use the stream "stdprn"
imp = stdprn;
Well, if i want to print in Windows with this system, i don´t can to do it. I´m tried to do it with the visual
C++ object, "CDC", (CDC -> CreateDC, etc), and i don´t can neither.
Please, anyone would can help me.
My e-mail adress is "pedromacia@redestb.es"
thanx.
P.D. Sorry for my english, is very bad.
