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Unless I misunderstand what you want, you may not have looked very far.
Both Pro/E and Unigraphics (2 that I know quite well) automtically change
hidden lines to dashed on a drawing.  
As a matter of fact, In Pro/E, you can very quickly turn smart 3D views
(orthographic drawing like views) into dumb 2D views and proceed to work
as if you were on a drafting board.
Ron Gates
CADTRAIN, Inc.
(714) 631-1013

Wanted!
Does anyone know of a lisp program that can output the layers of a dwg to a
text file?  Greatly appreciate any info!

Joseph M. Liston (smoker@fs.cei.net) wrote:
: >rurban@xarch.tu-graz.ac.at (Reini Urban) wrote:
: >>Most of those zombies cant even be viewed or printed without the app.
: 	I can imagine what will happen to the AEC industry. When we send
: drawings to consultants for them to work on (like HVAC, elec,
: plumbing.....) they would be at a loss as how to work on them. Talk
: about the tower of Babel. I guarantee they would not rush out and buy
: a copy of the package just to work on your project...
But the R14 DWG format will be extended to contain code (methods) to view
(at least), print and maybe move, scale, rotate and stretch zombies.
I'm not very familiar about zombies but the real developers only talk about
zombies and I'm sure that it will work as expected. 
You'll only have to buy the app behind the zombies if you want to work with
them in the specific app field, but the basic AutoCAD editing methods should
come within the DWG (real object orientated design, code + data in the db,
not just data as now). With that approach the AutoCAD database will be
superior to competitors. 
At least I hope so. I dont wanna learn and buy Microstation.
---
Reini Urban  http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/~rurban/
(defun subset (a b) ; contains list b elements of the list a?
  (cond ((null a T)
        ((member (car a) b) (subset (cdr a) b)))))

Tony Tanzillo (tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: If you're planning on using TrueType Fonts with MTEXT,
: then you should be aware that there are serious problems
: with the built-in MTEXT editor and TrueType fonts.  
I heard that the R13c4a release fixed that specific problem (but I never use
TTF fonts and esp. not the built-in editor)
---
Reini Urban  http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/~rurban/
(defun intersect (x y)	;;; intersection of 2 lists
  (cond ((null x) nil)
        ((member (car x) y) (cons (car x) (intersect (cdr x) y)))
        (T (intersect (cdr x) y))))

Hello,
 How can I extract a circle along a 3D Spline in Acad R13.
What what settings are required.
Thanks in advance.
-- 

hello everyone

Well as some of you have noticed you may have received "URL not found"
when trying to download one of my routines.
The problem was Unix is extreamly case sensitive.  I had to changed all
my files to lower case, plus make sure the HTML file was in lower case
as well.
Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused !!
-- 
Mr. Desi Moreno   desim@mid.org
Modesto Irrigation District
Electrical Engineering Technician
http://www.invsn.com/desmos/autolisp.htm

Jaan Koiduaru (jaankoi@postimees.ee) wrote:
: Can someone recommend me the best way to attach text information (30 or
: more strings) to the drawing.
The old method (described in the "Maximizing AutoLISP" book) is storing it
within attributes of hidden blocks. (either anonymous or with a special
name, access to special names is faster)
But then you get problems with unwanted layernames (because you have to hide
the block)
The better method is with EED, store the strings in the APPID section of
your regapp. I dont know if Tony Tanzillo described this method in the new
Maximizing AutoLISP book for R13, because its not available yet here.
But Rusty Gesner announced it recently in this newsgroup.
---
Reini Urban  http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/~rurban/
(defun tail (l n)
  (cond ((zerop n) l)
        (t (tail (cdr l) (1- n)))))

George S. Phoenix, III wrote:
> 
> They both would produce the same results. Right?
Hi George,
Yes the results is the same but it takes much more time.
1. WBLOCK from the current r13 drawing.
2. End the current drawing and open the written drawing.
3. SAVEASR12 then reopen the previous drawing making sure not to save 
changes.
4. Repete steps 1 thru 3
If one is tyring to develop backward compatiable programs or drawings for 
someone using r11 or 12, this get's old pretty quick.  I know that the 
whole drawing can be saved as r12 then pulled into r12 for WBLOCKing.
If I recall, AutoDESK stated that at r12, the drawing database would not 
change.  That didn't last long.  Just think what the future holds.
Cheers,
Lu
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Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> 
> Autodesk Plans on eliminating all forms of text except for
> MTEXT (e.g., no regular single-line TEXT/DTEXT, and block
> insertion attributes will also be MTEXT as well).
> 
> Well, I've seen them make bigger blunders...
> 
> They call it MTEXT, I just call it TEXT from hell.
> 
Hi Tony,
I sure hope AutoDESK remembers what happened to CocaCola a few years ago. 
 Better yet, Microsoft better get it's act together.  It's one thing to 
add new features to a program but adding multi-level complexicity to an 
already complex program and obsoleting time proven commands is crazy.  
From the postings in this newsgroup and others, I can't help wondering 
how much job related work is being done.  There seems to be quite a bit 
of time spent just trying to get hardware and software running.  
Cheers,
Lu
//------------------------------------------------------------------
//  When all else fails, read the book.
//  CAD\Tek Home Page: http://www.cad-tek.com
//------------------------------------------------------------------

(Joseph M. Liston) writes:
> jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn) wrote:
> >rurban@xarch.tu-graz.ac.at (Reini Urban) wrote:
> 
> >>Most of those zombies cant even be viewed or printed without the app.
> 
> >My first exposure (and hopefully last) to zombies was when I had a chance to
> >explore the Mechanical Desktop at my dealer's shop. What a surprise to
> > create a
> >beautiful 3D solids model, bring it in to AutoCAD (regular flavor Acad that
> > is)
> >and not even be able to snap to the geometry to locate it or other object
> > in
> 	I can imagine what will happen to the AEC industry. When we send
> drawings to consultants for them to work on (like HVAC, elec,
> plumbing.....) they would be at a loss as how to work on them. Talk
> about the tower of Babel. I guarantee they would not rush out and buy
> a copy of the package just to work on your project.
>  
> 	Now we have to provide an electronic copy to the owner. This is
> covered in the boilerplate of most specs. Anybody want to guess how
> they will react to this situation?:-)
The result of this kind of BS is that if somebody really *needs* to
use the drawing, they will have to get a plot of the original and
REDRAW it.  This compromises all of the original information.
What a waste!
Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss's job.
It is your job to find ways around your boss's roadblocks.
_______________________________________________________________
Glen Appleby  glena@bbs.cruzio.com  http://www2.cruzio.com/~glena/

Hello,
I have some problems to debug ADS applications. Can you help and give me
some informations about this.
Thank you...

The menu files could be in a read only directory, with AutoCAD being unable
to write the new ACAD.MNX.
Don.
Ian A. White  wrote in article
<32916713.5040670@news.zip.com.au>...
> >> The prompt line reads: error compliling menu
c:\acadwin\support\acad.mnx
> >> *Invalid*
> >> 
> >> WHY ISN'T THE ACAD.MNX FILE BEING LOADED ????
> >
> >delete existing acad.mnx file and it should recomplile.
> >there may be a lock file that could still prevent recompile
> >but i can't remember its extension. If you have manuals it will
> >be in there. if have problems let me know lancem@voyager.co.nz
> 
> Sorry, but you don't need to do this, and in any event, I don't
> believe that this will fix it.
> 
> What you do need to do is delete the lock file ACAD.MXK, and then once
> in AutoCAD, turn off file locking.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ian A. White, CPEng
> waiwhite@zip.com.au
> WAI Engineering
> Sydney 2000
> Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Just as an update, we purchased a Canon BJC-4550 on friday, and I set it up
today. I had it all set up and then began configuring AutoCad for the new
printer. We use r12c3 DOS and have no plans to upgrade in the near future. Canon
only supplys Windows (95 and 3.x) drivers with the printer. I went to Canon's
web site and downloaded a generic bubble jet driver for r12 and r13, but the
BJC-4550 was NOT one of the available printers. I ran a configuration anyway
selecting a BJC-4000-I could only print to 11x14 paper, I tried the BJ-230
driver, but the printer would not recognize the plot?
I called Canon, and they said they had been receiving calls about the lack of a
driver for DOS applications for this particular printer, but didn't have a
solution. I was told by the service representative that from the people he had
talked to, there was also not really any way to get an acceptable plot by
bringing the image into another Windows application and printing from there.
(ie. Paint Shop Pro or other.)
Needless to say, we were disappointed. I had hoped that I could come up with a
configuration which would at least give us b&w; plots, but even that seems
impossible with r12 DOS. 
We repacked the printer and returned it to the dealer. Hopefully, we will be
able to find a reasonably inexpensive solution!
Thanks for everyone's help and recommendations!
Sincerely,
Robert S. Carroll
rscarr@ix.netcom.com

"Tony Tanzillo"  wrote:
> ...
> Not long after R13c4 was released, one of the developers
> at Autodesk posted a standlone Windows MTEXT editor (which
> is essentially nothing but a Windows edit control wrapped 
> in a dialog box) on the AutoCAD forum on CompuServe. This
> would seem to confirm that that the built-in MTEXT editor 
> is hopelessly broken.
MEDIT.EXE is a sample program (source is available), released as a
demonstration of how to attach a dedicated external editor through the
MTEXTED sysvar.
-----
Frank Whaley
Autodesk, Inc.
few@autodesk.com
http://www.autodesk.com

ibmccll wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install Autocad 386 R12 on to our new pentium 133 c/with
> a  Maxtor graphics card and I get this message when I run the program
> under win 3.11,"Phar Lap err 74:Can't use -REALBREAK under this version
> of DPI"
> Can anybody tell me what this means and what I have to do.
> Thanks! (ibmccll@ozemail.com.au)
Ian,
The following information is available from Autodesk's library of technical documents 
found on the http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
The explanation for this error can be found under AutoCAD / Common Errors:
AutoCAD R 12 for DOS under Windows
The error 'Phar Lap err 74: Can't use -REALBREAK under this version of DPMI.' occurs 
when Windows is not correctly configured to run AutoCAD 386 Release 12. There are 
several steps needed to set up Windows and AutoCAD 386 documented in the AutoCAD 
Installation Guide, Chapter 5, as listed below:
Configure Windows 
   1.Copy the file pharlap.386 from the AutoCAD executable directory into the WINDOWS 
subdirectory. 
   2.Edit the system.ini file. and add the following line to the [386Enh] section: 
     device=pharlap.386 
   3.Restart Windows. 
Edit the acad.pif file 
The acad.pif file may also need to be edited. In the Windows PIF Editor, either change 
program filename from acad.exe to the name of the startup batch file created during 
installation (acadr12.bat), or add the drive and path for acad.exe to the program 
filename. If the second method is used, be sure to set the environment variables ACAD, 
ACADCFG, and ACADDRV before starting Windows. 
Good luck!
- Cara Denko, Autodesk

Does anyone know an easy way to add thickness to a 3D MESH and make a
3D SOLID out of it.?
Thanks for the time
Ryan

ibmccll wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install Autocad 386 R12 on to our new pentium 133 c/with
> a  Maxtor graphics card and I get this message when I run the program
> under win 3.11,"Phar Lap err 74:Can't use -REALBREAK under this version
> of DPI"
> Can anybody tell me what this means and what I have to do.
> Thanks! (ibmccll@ozemail.com.au)
Ian,
The following information is available from Autodesk's library of technical documents 
found on the http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
The explanation for this error can be found under AutoCAD / Common Errors:
AutoCAD R 12 for DOS under Windows
The error 'Phar Lap err 74: Can't use -REALBREAK under this version of DPMI.' occurs 
when Windows is not correctly configured to run AutoCAD 386 Release 12. There are 
several steps needed to set up Windows and AutoCAD 386 documented in the AutoCAD 
Installation Guide, Chapter 5, as listed below:
Configure Windows 
   1.Copy the file pharlap.386 from the AutoCAD executable directory into the WINDOWS 
subdirectory. 
   2.Edit the system.ini file. and add the following line to the [386Enh] section: 
     device=pharlap.386 
   3.Restart Windows. 
Edit the acad.pif file 
The acad.pif file may also need to be edited. In the Windows PIF Editor, either change 
program filename from acad.exe to the name of the startup batch file created during 
installation (acadr12.bat), or add the drive and path for acad.exe to the program 
filename. If the second method is used, be sure to set the environment variables ACAD, 
ACADCFG, and ACADDRV before starting Windows. 
Good luck!
- Cara Denko, Autodesk

hi,
I hope that one of you know the latest version of Autocad.
I guess it is 13. Is this correct ?
please mail personally, because of access problems to
Newsgroups
thanks
	Christian
	(chrkr@uni-paderborn.de)

(DMW) writes:
> 
> Nearest Neighbor analysis
> A point (block with X,Y,Z attributes) lies between 2 polylines.  One 
> polyline 
> lies on layer 1200 and the other polyline lies on layer 1500.  Each
> layer 
> corresponds to an contour interval derived from a standard USGS
> topographic 
> map.  Is there a way to reset the Z coordinate (elevation) in the point
> block 
> that lies between the polylines based on a mathematics/distance
> calculation 
> automatically WITHout user intervention. In a standard GIS software
> package, 
> this would be known as neasest neightbor analysis.  The only way I can
> figure 
> is to create a series of radial lines originating from the point block,
> then 
> analyze each line to see if it intersects a polyline/contour interval and
> then 
> interpolate the distance between the highest/lowest contour and then
> calculate 
> the correct Z (elevation) based on the position of the point block between
> the 
> two polylines.  Surely, there must be an easier way.
Well, just becasuse CAD is a database with a graphical interface, 
doesn't mean that the only way to interface is graphically.  
Instead, could you *calculate* the distance between the block and the
plines (or the vertecies)?  Something like:
	(setq DISTANCE1 (distance  ))
I know that this is really crude and not terribly direct, but is it 
enough to give you the idea?
Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss's job.
It is your job to find ways around your boss's roadblocks.
_______________________________________________________________
Glen Appleby  glena@bbs.cruzio.com  http://www2.cruzio.com/~glena/

	Seem you did everything right except that you don't config your
	autocad right.......
	two ways.. in configure if u have the driver for acad r13 c4 for this
	plotter u should see it... when ask for network printing or local
	choose network and make sure ur capture match the lpt port u select
	example (lpt4: \\plotterlocalion\hp200) u should choose under config
	lpt4:
	another easier is to used system adi plotter that's is much easier
	but ask for some skill (since the configuration of paper, color, size
	is done strickly from the win95 hp 200 printer setting and acad..
	before plotting always go to u device plotting....
	describe the msg u receive I can help u more...
	Have fun....
>    Orange, NJ 07050		    sjn3994@oak.njit.edu	        >
>									>
>     		 Jesus is Lord of all					>
>***********************************************************************>
On 15 Nov 1996, D Barkin wrote:
> I have recently networked my office computers utilizing Windows '95 and am 
> trying to figure out a method of plotting inside AutoCAD.  The plotter I own, a 
> HP Design Jet 200 is attached to one of the computers.  AutoCAD requires 
> defining a parallel or serial port in the configuration so I have attempted to 
> capture a port and map it to the computer with the plotter but an error message 
> comes up thus not making the connection.  Can anyone provide some insights? By 
> the way I am on R13 c4.  Thanks
> 
> 
> 

rscarr@ix.netcom.com (Robert S. Carroll) wrote:
>I know that the subject of 11"x17" Plotters has been covered many times before,
>but does anyone have any first hand experience with the Canon BJC-4550 Printer?
>We are finally going to do some upgrading around here and a new "B" size
>Plotter/Printer is in the works and we are looking seriously at the Canon.
>
>I would appreciate any information.
>
I bought one last week and so far I am very well pleased with it. I run AutoCAD LT under Win95, on a Gateway
2000 P5-90 overclocked to 100K, then overdrive upgraded to 166 MHz.  The 4550 does a nice job with the proof
copies. I also use the 4550 with MSPublisher to produce a newsletter. And, in addition, it is nice for
producing certain novelty things like a super-sized letter or memo to someone whose attention you want to be
sure of. I recommend the printer without reservation.

Robert,
I don't know if this would be of anything like you
want, but...
Have you thought about a used B pen plotter? I find
a lot at this store that buys used equipment from companies.
Mostly HPs, but you're guaranteed to have DOS compatibility.
One we used at school had a jig made for it so we could
use crayola makers... :)
Just a thought,
Stef

I tried to load AutoCAD this moring and got a message "Load failed, too
many users, try again later"
I'm not on a network, and have never been.
I have ACADR12 installed on my 486dx2.
I have used it for last 3 years and never had this problem.
Any help ????

JerryA  wrote:
>I was sent some new patterns on a floppy disk ( Ex. Bricks.pat)  How do I use them as a pattern fill in Acad
>12?
>Thank,
>Jerry
Look for *.pat in the ACAD Subdirectories. ( I think is in SUPPORT)
Then
Copy your diskette files into this  subdirectory.
You can now have them available.

********************************************************************************************
Please Help, i'll help other articles.
When i load an Acad File, i get an error:
		"HEAP ERROR"
and it takes me out from AutoCAD, and it takes me out of my mind.
Somebody tell me it is about free space in hard drive, but this is
a new one with 900 Mb free.
Tthanks in Advance.
********************************************************************************************
Please help me.
All momento de cargar un determinado archivo en Auto CAD R-13 para
Windows me aparece un error "Heap ERROR", en una consuslta me dijeron
que es por el espacio en disco duro,pero me acaba de suceder en una
instalacion reciente en la cual el disco es nuevo y tiene espacio
libre de 900MB.
Gracias.
**********************************************************************************************

bschwa3742@aol.com wrote:> bschwa3742@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >when picking a window to move,copy, ect. when ucs is set in another angle
> >then the world ucs the cursor is in world while the window is picked. Is
> >there a way to keep the window i'm picking to stay in present ucs.
> You're asking if it's possible to have the selection window lie parallel to the
> xy plane
> Not to my knowlege. Nor is this really something that would be "defined" when
> working in 3D. A selection window is presumed (I guess) to extend to infinity in
> both the positive and negative Z axis. Picking a window in a non-orthogonal
> plane (to the screen) might be possible but I think it would cause more
> confusion than any selection options it might provide.
> 
> Just my opinion.
When selecting you could type wp for window polygon and pick the 4 points of your window.  
Therefore your window can be on the ucs or any plane you can imagine.
There a lisp routines at some of the url's that are posted here that will allow you to pick the first 
two points of your rectangle and create a box from these.  This lisp would cut your point picking 
from 4 points to 3 so I've never bothered with it.   
In 3d multiple ucs picks do prove to be a problem, I find it easier to click on entities, but often in 
plan view you can also be working with multiple ucs' it is here that a non world ucs window can be 
advantagous.

Hi,
Where can I find on the Internet professional (real)
.dwg files to download them?
Thanks
-- 
 Manuel Gonzalez

I have been using my Numonics Gridmaster as a mouse under Win3.1 for
quite a while, and have never had a problem with it.
Chris
"David McNicol"  wrote:
>I've used a digitizer since R11 and it was fine when using DOS based
>AutoCAD and 3DS but if you want to use windows, the digitizer can be a pain
>in the butt. If you use a mouse for windows and a digitizer for winacad
>then you will literally use both. Digitizer for drawing and mouse for
>menus. You can configure your digitizer as a mouse for windows but
>sometimes certain programs can be finicky about that. My suggestion to you
>is instead of buying a digitizer, buy a good mouse instead.
>Regards,
>D.McNicol
>engineer@handling.com

On 9 Nov 1996 20:52:06 GMT, brian <105102.3402@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>Hi,
>  I am having problems getting my Win95
>and Autocad R13c4 system to plot to a
>Hewlett Packard Draftpro DXL.  I get
>an error message when I try to get it
>to plot.  It says "invalid hard clip
>limits returned from plotter" and "plotter
>may still be in LOCAL mode".
>
>If any one can give some suggestions, I'd
>be appreciative.
>
First thing, is the plotter in local mode?  It should be in Remote.
Second thing, do you have the proper cable between plotter and
computer?
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:55:35 -0800, Robert  wrote:
>
>You haven't spoken with me!!! I set my global ltscale for the correct
>value for the entire drawing (usually half of the scale factor), but
>WILL assign a different property ltscale for individual objects when it
>makes a drawing read clearer!
OK, the first thing to remember is we are talking about technical
drawings, and every aspect of the drawing is covered by national
standards.  One of these is the line pattern and its dimensions.  I
have to admit that the default definitions in the ACAD.LIN file do not
match the standards anyway.  But never mind this, I don't believe that
they are so far out that they have to be at half scale.  In fact, as
QA accreditation is becoming more widespread, the practice of having a
multitude of linetype scales will only result in heartache as auditors
will simply mark these as areas of non-conformance.  I know that this
has already happened in some offices.
>> WYSIWYG is the reason being put forward for showing line widths.
>> Don't confuse WYSIWYG in a wordprocessor with what you believe you
>> will get in CAD.  When was the last time you zoomed in in a
>> wordprocessor like you do in CAD?
>
>Quite regularly, actually. I am a very demanding "precision freak" when
>it comes to word processing documents. I zoom into my individual words
>and manually kern them when the need arises!
Pardon me for saying this, but if you have the time to do this on a
regular basis, you probably don't have enough things to do.  It would
take someone with an awful lot of spare time on their hands to sit
down and compare documents to see of kerning has been altered.  Even
so, my point about zooming in a word processor is going to the extent
of seeing just one or maybe 2 characters on the screen.
>> In CAD you may have to zoom in to
>> check the intersection of two objects, however all line widths will do
>> is make such resolution impossible.
>
>I understand your concern. BUT, a simple toggle between WYSIWYG and ACAD
>default display will solve that problem. BTW, what do you do when you've
>got a polyline with some width- panic???
You missed my point entirely.  I am not saying (and never have said)
that there should not be a preview mode.  What I do not want to see is
a situation where the only view you ever get is full line widths only.
No, I don't panic when I see a polyline with width.  Don't worry, I
actually use them.  I will say, that when I have a set of polylines
with width which merge into s single blob, and I want to pick a
particular intersection within that blob, I turn their widths to 0.
>> If you want to provide a WYSIWYG plot preview, then by all means do
>> so.  Just PLEASE don't force users to have to work with linewidths all
>> the time.  Yes, there are programs which work this way, and I have
>> probably spent more time correcting supplied drawings from such
>> programs because of this.
>
>Complain to your drawing suppliers, not AutoDesk. If people know how to
>use a piece of software then the products produced will be accurate.
I was not complaining to Autodesk, and yes, I have complained to the
drawing providers.  So did my client as he was paying me to fix up
their problems.  The point is that the problems stemmed from their use
of polylines with width, and they did not or could not get the correct
intersections.
>> I suppose one "benefit" of showing line widths will be to show those
>> CAD managers how absurd using some half scale patterns are, as with
>> the pens used, the lines would dashes would merge anyway.  No, this is
>> not sufficient reason for implementing it.
>
>There are LOTS of great reasons to have a WYSIWYG display toggle
>*option*. I would not want it to entirely replace the current display of
>AutoCAD- But I would truly welcome the ability to WYSIWYG my drawing on
>screen when I need to see in detail how something will read when
>plotted.
I fully agree with having an option for this.  It is just that I don't
want to see it as the only way to work.  At the moment, I have a very
good way to work, and it is to use one colour for any one pen size.
This way, it if is confusing on the screen, it will be confusing when
plotted.
>This has always been one of my biggest gripes about AutoCAD- and does
>not portend a trend toward inccacuracy...(The need for accuracy is my
>biggest gripe!!!) To have the ability to see WYSIWYG display as an
>option will only make the really good CAD operators even better.
Sorry, a WYSIWYG option will NOT make anyone better.  It will only
help you see something that is obviously wrong.  But then so will many
other techniques.
Let's not worry about this too much anyway.  If something like this is
made available in R14, then I have been advised that it will be an
option only.  That is, you will be able to keep working the way you
are now, but will have the option to display line thicknesses if you
want to and the other big IF is IF IT DOES GET INTO R14.  There is
nothing certain about this anyway.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:13:11 GMT, ae@r130.aone.net.au (Ben Glasson)
wrote:
>
>Ian,
>Very interesting..
>I have a Canon BJC-4000, and it must be ON for the Hardware
>Lock to be found..
I have a ProTracer (Canon BJ330 based), and it does not care.  There
are strange things going on ;-)
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 07:26:51 +0000, craddy@threewa.co.uk wrote:
>I am an Autocad LT2 user.  After reading rave reviews, I have purchased 
>an upgrade to Autocad LT for Windows 95.  Now, when I open drawings that 
>were prepared in LT2, the text (I use 'Office Blueprint' style) is 
>larger than it was when I saved the original drawing.  
>
>Conversely, when I save from LT95 in LT2 format, then when I open the 
>drawing using LT2, the text has become smaller.
>
>I know that I could edit each text object on the original drawing, but 
>this is not desirable because I have lots of drawings already prepared 
>in LT2 format.  
>
>Also, I have encountered the same problem when people try to read my LT2 
>drawings with Release 13.
The problem is that the font definitions in the LT3 directory are
different to those in your original LT2 directory.
Now, you could simply copy over the files from LT2 to LT3, however I
would only suggest this once you have retained a copy of the original
LT3 font files.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

MANY DRAWINGS CRASHES 
BECAUSE OF     CRC ERROR IN XxXXXXX
WHAT TO DO

Is possible use autocad12 in windows 95 ? 
please help for my problem.
lmacalli@rimini.com

I am using Autocad R13 C4 with Dos.
I would like to use the mass properties command on an assembly of solids with individual elements having 
different densities.  I presently use a spreadsheet to calculate all weights from the mass properties output 
(volume) but it would be nice to do a mass properties on the whole assembly with one mass properties command 
and have it calculate everything at once.
Thanks for any help
Todd Pickering

I am using Autocad R13 C4 with Dos.
I would like to use the mass properties command on an assembly of solids with individual elements having 
different densities.  I presently use a spreadsheet to calculate all weights from the mass properties output 
(volume) but it would be nice to do a mass properties on the whole assembly with one mass properties command 
and have it calculate everything at once.
Thanks for any help
Todd Pickering

"Tony Tanzillo"  wrote:
>If you can show me the exact format of the data file (a 
>small example will do fine), I might be able to suggest
>a solution.
>-- 
Tony wrote the lisp routine for doing just that. It was included with
R12 and later versions on the CD. I updated it slightly to use dialog
boxes. Let me know if you want a copy.
Chris

Charles Traylor wrote:
> 
> Help!
> 
> I am having difficulty with my new HP600. It is giving me a message,
> "Out of Memory; Data was Lost" EVERY time I attempt to plot. I am using
> AutoCad Release 13c4 for Windows NT 4.0. This has only recently begun to
> happen. It plotted fine when I first got it. Some things that have
> changed? I converted from Windows NT 3.51 to 4.0 shortly after
> purchasing the plotter. Also, I changed a couple of settings on the face
> of the plotter to be able to produce "final" quality plots instead of
> "enhanced" quality plots.
> 
> I have 4mg of RAM, which is not very much, but I am getting the above
> error message even when I am plotting a DWG file with only 3 or 4
> hundered thousand bytes. I have over 300 mg free on my "D" drive and
> ober 60 mg on my "C" drive. I should have plenty of hard drive memory.
> My virtual memory is set at the recommended 75 to 125 mg. That should
> not be a problem, either. I have been using the Systems Plotter with
> Windows NT 4.0, because I cannot get the internal Autodesk drivers to
> recognize my LPT1: port, but the plotter just keeps on dumping data. My
> Print Manager shows very large files being processed, (close to 2 mg)
> even when I KNOW that the drawing file is much less than 1/2 mg. My LPT1
> port works just fine when the Systems Plotter is set to run with my BJ
> 230 Canon Bubble Jet 11" x 17" Printer.
> 
> Also, the HP driver disks that came with the plotter will not allow my
> Program Manager to run the "Install" command. I keep getting a message
> that AutoCad is not yet installed. I almost think that the diskette is
> locked on trying to install on drive c: although I have AutoCad
> installed on drive d:.
> 
> I have contacted the dealer who sold me the plotter. They have been
> REALLY slow about doing ANYTHING so far. They are Lawton Reprograpghics
> in Dallas, Texas. The reason I bought from them in the first place and
> paid about $500 more than I would have had to pay through a mail order
> house in Colorado is that Lawton claimed they would provide tech support
> and service. So far? NOT SO!
> 
> I contacted a local service company, Stewart Engineering, when they were
> exhibiting at a local computer show here in Dallas. Stewart supposedly
> sells and services HP products. Their show rep gave me an 800 number to
> call to set up a service call. It turned out to be HP tech support, I
> think maybe in Atlanta. A day or so later I got a call back from some
> guy who so far has not been any help either. He suggested that I get on
> the Internet and download a driver from HP's Web Site. I tried that. I
> keyed in a search description for my HP 600 and got back about 21,000
> choices. Hmmm. Let's see. I THINK I will only need ONE of those, won't
> I?
> 
> If any of you who might be reading this posting might know of anything
> that could be done to pull my ox out of the ditch I would certainly
> appreciate hearing from you.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Charles Traylor, AIA, NCARB
> Archline CAD Services
> 4202 Royal Lane
> Dallas, Texas 75229
> Telephone: 214 904 0368
> Facsimile: 214 904 0348
> Internet: archline@onramp.net
> Web Page: http://rampages.onramp.net/~archline/
I had the same problems with the HP600 using NT 3.51 System Printer. 
Some of my plot spools were 20+ meg.  The work around is to use the
AutoCAD plotter.  The trick is to create an AutoSpool through AutoCAD. 
Configure AutoCAD for the HP600.  Type in a '.' for printer port, (this
will not set a port for the driver).  Next, under Options-> preferences
tab "misc"->Plot Spooling box type in D:\r13\autoplot.bat %s.  Now we
need to create the file Autoplot.bat.  My autoplot.bat is located
later.  The last item to do is plot.  When plotting make sure the Plot
to file box is checked.
What should happen during plotting:  Everything will occur normally
until the plot file is created.  Autocad will then send the plot file to
batch file autoplot.bat which will then copy the file to the printer.
We have successfully used this technique to connect all 14 computers to
the HP600.  We still did receive OUT OF MEMORY errors but those were
caused by fragmenting memory.  Bumped it up to 20 megs and that fixed
that problem.  You shouldn't have to worry about that in a single user
environment.
AutoPlot.bat:
copy %1 \\gai7\hp600
del %1
where \\gai7 is the computer name and HP600 is the share name of the
plotter.

bschwa3742@aol.com wrote:> bschwa3742@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >when picking a window to move,copy, ect. when ucs is set in another angle
> >then the world ucs the cursor is in world while the window is picked. Is
> >there a way to keep the window i'm picking to stay in present ucs.
> You're asking if it's possible to have the selection window lie parallel to the
> xy plane
> Not to my knowlege. Nor is this really something that would be "defined" when
> working in 3D. A selection window is presumed (I guess) to extend to infinity in
> both the positive and negative Z axis. Picking a window in a non-orthogonal
> plane (to the screen) might be possible but I think it would cause more
> confusion than any selection options it might provide.
> 
> Just my opinion.
When selecting you could type wp for window polygon and pick the 4 points of your window.  
Therefore your window can be on the ucs or any plane you can imagine.
There a lisp routines at some of the url's that are posted here that will allow you to pick the first 
two points of your rectangle and create a box from these.  This lisp would cut your point picking 
from 4 points to 3 so I've never bothered with it.   
In 3d multiple ucs picks do prove to be a problem, I find it easier to click on entities, but often in 
plan view you can also be working with multiple ucs' it is here that a non world ucs window can be 
advantagous.
ashley lane