Subject: Re: memory or processor - which to upgrade?
From: "David E. Gonsalves"
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:35:56 GMT
Dear Michael,
I recently upgraded my home computer to a 586-133 (AMD) and added 16 MB RAM
for a total cost of $298. That cost included the 133 processor, a new EIDE
VESA II compliant motherboard, which allows me to use my Diamond Stealth 64
video card for a couple more years. The largest cost was the RAM ($190)
which I bought several months before the motherboard & chip ($108). If I
had waited to purchase the RAM (isn't hindsight wonderful?), the whole deal
could have been done for around $220. My opinion about the processor/RAM
issue is go for processor speed, get the fastest processor you can afford.
The problem with this is that if you buy a true Pentium, you have to get a
motherboard that's complient, which probably means a new video card too,
which adds another $300 or so if you want a decent one. I decided to go
with the 586-133 because it would allow me to use all my old hardware, and
the speed increase was incremental (I had a 486-80), so I feel it was a
good trade-off. Hopefully this gives you some reference to work from.
Good luck on your upgrade,
David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
delliottg@olywa.net
mgeorge wrote in article
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> I have a performance question and could use some additional input.
> We have one workstation in our office that is used primarily for
> overflow work using AutoCAD, Spreadsheets, Word processing when
> we hire a temp in addition to using it as a backup when one of our
> other AutoCAD workstations is down for system administration. This
> workstation is currently configured as follows:
>
> 486DX-120hz 16 mb ram. 800mb hd, 4x cd, Win3.1
> Running AutoCAD 12&13, Archibus, Excel 5.0, and Word Perfect 6.1
> Most of our AutoCAD files are in the 1 mb range with some up to 4mb.
> We are an AEC Facilities Department using both paperspace and xrefs
> extensively, some 3d, and no rendering.
>
> Funds are not available to replace the machine at this time to match
> the other workstations in the office. However, my supervisor has offered
> to fund up to $300US to upgrade this one until it is scheduled to be
> replaced next October. Along with this hardware upgrade we will switch
> the OS to Win95 to match the others in the office.
>
> My question it this for the same money spent. Would it be better to:
> A. Boost the memory to 64 mb on the existing 486
> Or
> B. Replace the 486-120 processor with a Pentium 133
>
> The other system (non-Acad literate) administrators I rely on here for
> hardware help are split on this one.
>
> Thanks in advance for your input.
>
> Michael
>
>
Subject: Re: Help - Too many users ?
From: desim@mid.org
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:02:18 -0600
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In article <3290A9A1.494A@fwi.com>,
John Williams wrote:
>
> I tried to load AutoCAD this moring and got a message "Load failed, too
> many users, try again later"
> I'm not on a network, and have never been.
> I have ACADR12 installed on my 486dx2.
> I have used it for last 3 years and never had this problem.
> Any help ????
>
John, it sounds like you have a corrupted acad.pwd file.
1) delete it.
2) copy a file from a co-worker, but make sure he is not in AutoCAD at the time.
3) get into AutoCAD.
I would get out of AutoCAD again, then copy the ACAD.PWD to another file like
ACADPWD.SAV. This way if it happens again, you ahve your own back up
good luck
--
Mr. Desi Moreno desim@mid.org
Modesto Irrigation District
Electrical Engineering Technician
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Subject: Conversion Program
From: D.Logue@btinternet.com (D.Logue)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 06:04:10 GMT
Any help on these matters:
use autocad 13 to design a 3 dimensional Machine Part.
Once all autocad 13 data is stored on disc, need a conversion
program converting data to RS-274-d (or similar ) codes which
will then be read and used by a numerically controlled machine (cnc)
post-processor to ultimately control a wire EDM machine;
Typically 5 axis (x,y,z,u,v)
Subject: Lost something, need help
From: TONY FOURNIER
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:08:15 -0800
Hello out there,
I hope somone out there can help me, I seem to have lost my
plot dialogue box. I know it is probably some variable setting that
was changed somehow, but I cant seem to find it. I am using Autocad
release 13 c4, on a pentium system. If someone knows how to fix this,
I would like to hear from you, please email me at
cad-line.nb.sympathico.ca .
Thank you
Tony
Subject: Re:Re: HP600 "Out of Memory" Problems
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 19 Nov 1996 04:23:54 -0800
Shane R Barnett wrote:
>Charles Traylor wrote:
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> I am having difficulty with my new HP600. It is giving me a message,
>> "Out of Memory; Data was Lost" EVERY time I attempt to plot. I am using
>> AutoCad Release 13c4 for Windows NT 4.0. This has only recently begun to
>> happen. It plotted fine when I first got it. Some things that have
>> changed? I converted from Windows NT 3.51 to 4.0 shortly after
>> purchasing the plotter. Also, I changed a couple of settings on the face
>> of the plotter to be able to produce "final" quality plots instead of
>> "enhanced" quality plots.
>>
>> I have 4mg of RAM, which is not very much, but I am getting the above
>> error message even when I am plotting a DWG file with only 3 or 4
>> hundered thousand bytes. I have over 300 mg free on my "D" drive and
>> ober 60 mg on my "C" drive. I should have plenty of hard drive memory.
>> My virtual memory is set at the recommended 75 to 125 mg. That should
>> not be a problem, either. I have been using the Systems Plotter with
>> Windows NT 4.0, because I cannot get the internal Autodesk drivers to
>> recognize my LPT1: port, but the plotter just keeps on dumping data. My
>> Print Manager shows very large files being processed, (close to 2 mg)
>> even when I KNOW that the drawing file is much less than 1/2 mg. My LPT1
>> port works just fine when the Systems Plotter is set to run with my BJ
>> 230 Canon Bubble Jet 11" x 17" Printer.
>>
>> Also, the HP driver disks that came with the plotter will not allow my
>> Program Manager to run the "Install" command. I keep getting a message
>> that AutoCad is not yet installed. I almost think that the diskette is
>> locked on trying to install on drive c: although I have AutoCad
>> installed on drive d:.
>>
>> I have contacted the dealer who sold me the plotter. They have been
>> REALLY slow about doing ANYTHING so far. They are Lawton Reprograpghics
>> in Dallas, Texas. The reason I bought from them in the first place and
>> paid about $500 more than I would have had to pay through a mail order
>> house in Colorado is that Lawton claimed they would provide tech support
>> and service. So far? NOT SO!
>>
>> I contacted a local service company, Stewart Engineering, when they were
>> exhibiting at a local computer show here in Dallas. Stewart supposedly
>> sells and services HP products. Their show rep gave me an 800 number to
>> call to set up a service call. It turned out to be HP tech support, I
>> think maybe in Atlanta. A day or so later I got a call back from some
>> guy who so far has not been any help either. He suggested that I get on
>> the Internet and download a driver from HP's Web Site. I tried that. I
>> keyed in a search description for my HP 600 and got back about 21,000
>> choices. Hmmm. Let's see. I THINK I will only need ONE of those, won't
>> I?
>>
>> If any of you who might be reading this posting might know of anything
>> that could be done to pull my ox out of the ditch I would certainly
>> appreciate hearing from you.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Charles Traylor, AIA, NCARB
>> Archline CAD Services
>> 4202 Royal Lane
>> Dallas, Texas 75229
>> Telephone: 214 904 0368
>> Facsimile: 214 904 0348
>> Internet: archline@onramp.net
>> Web Page: http://rampages.onramp.net/~archline/
>
>I had the same problems with the HP600 using NT 3.51 System Printer.
>Some of my plot spools were 20+ meg. The work around is to use the
>AutoCAD plotter. The trick is to create an AutoSpool through AutoCAD.
>Configure AutoCAD for the HP600. Type in a '.' for printer port, (this
>will not set a port for the driver). Next, under Options-> preferences
>tab "misc"->Plot Spooling box type in D:\r13\autoplot.bat %s. Now we
>need to create the file Autoplot.bat. My autoplot.bat is located
>later. The last item to do is plot. When plotting make sure the Plot
>to file box is checked.
>
>What should happen during plotting: Everything will occur normally
>until the plot file is created. Autocad will then send the plot file to
>batch file autoplot.bat which will then copy the file to the printer.
>
>We have successfully used this technique to connect all 14 computers to
>the HP600. We still did receive OUT OF MEMORY errors but those were
>caused by fragmenting memory. Bumped it up to 20 megs and that fixed
>that problem. You shouldn't have to worry about that in a single user
>environment.
>
>AutoPlot.bat:
>copy %1 \\gai7\hp600
>del %1
>
>where \\gai7 is the computer name and HP600 is the share name of the
>plotter.
>
>
Nice procedure to solve the problem.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
Subject: Re: AutoCAD can do anything (well almost)
From: Marc Goldman
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:22:41 -0800
glena@bbs.cruzio.com wrote:
>
> (Joseph M. Liston) writes:
> > jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn) wrote:
> > >rurban@xarch.tu-graz.ac.at (Reini Urban) wrote:
> >
> > >>Most of those zombies cant even be viewed or printed without the app.
> >
> > >My first exposure (and hopefully last) to zombies was when I had a chance to
> > >explore the Mechanical Desktop at my dealer's shop. What a surprise to
> > > create a beautiful 3D solids model, bring it in to AutoCAD (regular flavor Acad that
> > > is) and not even be able to snap to the geometry to locate it or other object in
> > I can imagine what will happen to the AEC industry. When we send
> > drawings to consultants for them to work on (like HVAC, elec,
> > plumbing.....) they would be at a loss as how to work on them. Talk
> > about the tower of Babel. I guarantee they would not rush out and buy
> > a copy of the package just to work on your project.
> >
> > Now we have to provide an electronic copy to the owner. This is
> > covered in the boilerplate of most specs. Anybody want to guess how
> > they will react to this situation?:-)
>
> The result of this kind of BS is that if somebody really *needs* to
> use the drawing, they will have to get a plot of the original and
> REDRAW it. This compromises all of the original information.
>
> What a waste!
>
> Do not underestimate your abilities. That is your boss's job.
> It is your job to find ways around your boss's roadblocks.
> _______________________________________________________________
> Glen Appleby glena@bbs.cruzio.com http://www2.cruzio.com/~glena/
Autodesk spearheaded the Industry Aliance for Interoperability (IAI)
about 18 months ago to create a set of Industry Foundation Classes (IFC)
for the AEC industry. The ACS show recently held in Germany (similar to
the US AEC Systems show) demonstrated the exchange of information
between applications using object technology that is based on work by
the IAI, IFC and the AEC Market Group at Autodesk. The sample model was
the Schroder House by Reitveld. The file was completely model based
(Walls, doors, windows, slabs, columns, spaces, etc) not just lines arcs
and circles. Not just blocks or polyface meshes, but OBJECTS!!!! The
partners (and competitors) exchanged the file via IFC tranlsations
without the need to "get a plot of the original and REDRAW it" as Glen
fears above.
You might want to check out http://www.interoperability.com/ or
http://www.nibs.org/cadd1.htm or
http://www.autodesk.com/compinfo/pressrel/pr2_12a.htm or
http://www.cgw.com/cgw/Archives/1995/08/08news1_03.html or
http://www.aecsystems.com/tutorials/t69.html or
http://www.softlab.lejonet.se/mms/iso/grenoble.htm
The promise of object technology is almost here. Keep your eyes and
ears open for more to come.
Marc Goldman
AEC Market Group
Autodesk, Inc.
Subject: CAD Tutorial Software On Sale
From: enoa4@aol.com
Date: 19 Nov 1996 18:24:29 GMT
The TEACHING ASSISTANT is a self-paced, embedded tutorial program for
either AutoCAD or Microstation is currently available from Electronic
Courseware Systems. Barnstorming is a similar tutorial program, which
focuses on the 3-D aspects of MicroStation. Each program is discounted
15% until this Friday, November 22nd, 1996.
For more information, please stop by our web site at
http://www.ecsmedia.com If you have any questions or if you would like
to have information mailed to you please contact me by telephone at
(800)-832-4965, or by E-mail at Enoa4@aol.com
Ernie Noa
Electronic Courseware Systems
Subject: Re:HEAP ERROR Acad13 Win
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 19 Nov 1996 04:22:31 -0800
gmuela@infolnk.net (Gerardo Alejandro Muela Pak) wrote:
>********************************************************************************************
>Please Help, i'll help other articles.
>
>When i load an Acad File, i get an error:
>
> "HEAP ERROR"
>
>and it takes me out from AutoCAD, and it takes me out of my mind.
>
>Somebody tell me it is about free space in hard drive, but this is
>a new one with 900 Mb free.
>
>Tthanks in Advance.
>
>********************************************************************************************
>Please help me.
>All momento de cargar un determinado archivo en Auto CAD R-13 para
>Windows me aparece un error "Heap ERROR", en una consuslta me dijeron
>que es por el espacio en disco duro,pero me acaba de suceder en una
>instalacion reciente en la cual el disco es nuevo y tiene espacio
>libre de 900MB.
>
>Gracias.
>**********************************************************************************************
>
Increase the Permanent swap file size in the Windows to atleast 64MB.
Also check whether the 32 bit disk access is ON. If so switch OFF.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
Subject: Re: our firm must use mtext
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 19 Nov 1996 07:58:15 GMT
Interesting Frank - that You didn't refute my cliam that
the internal MTEXT editor is hopelessly broken.
I've had to kill AutoCAD and loose data more times than
I care to remember, as a result of attempting to edit a
modest amount of MTEXT formatted with a TrueType font.
I confirmed today that the problem persists in R13c4a.
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Frank Whaley wrote in article
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> "Tony Tanzillo" wrote:
> > ...
> > Not long after R13c4 was released, one of the developers
> > at Autodesk posted a standlone Windows MTEXT editor (which
> > is essentially nothing but a Windows edit control wrapped
> > in a dialog box) on the AutoCAD forum on CompuServe. This
> > would seem to confirm that that the built-in MTEXT editor
> > is hopelessly broken.
>
> MEDIT.EXE is a sample program (source is available), released as a
> demonstration of how to attach a dedicated external editor through the
> MTEXTED sysvar.
> -----
> Frank Whaley
> Autodesk, Inc.
> few@autodesk.com
> http://www.autodesk.com
>
Subject: Re: DWG files
From: desim@mid.org
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:21:05 -0600
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In article <3290B0C3.2D4D@bpo.hp.com>,
Manuel Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Where can I find on the Internet professional (real)
> .dwg files to download them?
> Thanks
> --
> Manuel Gonzalez
>
Manuel, why would you need someone elses drawing? You probable will not find
any Architect to give away his/her work. Field drawings (construction drawings)
wouldn't be any good to you. Or are you just looking on getting some ideas?
Here's my tip of the day. Get into AutoCAD and draw. Draw like there's no
tomorrow. After a few days of plotting your file seeing your mistakes, you'll
learn from yourself.
What if you downloaded some drawings drawn by a fool who has no previous knowledge
of basic drafting principles ???
Mr. Desi Moreno desim@mid.org
Modesto Irrigation District
Electrical Engineering Technician
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