Subject: best way to export for web
From: Mike Richling
Date: 22 Nov 1996 03:07:58 GMT
I have a user with Autocad 13, he does floor plans for our building
I would like to be able to put the plans up on our internal web site.
The prospect of loading each users machine with the plugin, doesn't
please me since most users will just want to view the basic plan.
Not having looked at the software yet, would it seem best to export
to gif? And if so, is it a convoluted process? I promise I will read
the manual, looking through autodesk and this news group, it looks like
saveimg is the command to use.
Any suggests?
Mike
Subject: Re: R13 student version from Addison-Wesley - FLAWED!!!!
From: Miles Constable
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:49:32 -0800
John Schneeg wrote:
[snip]
> To my extreme displeasure, all plots made by this newer version have
> a very distracting message tagging them as being printed from an > educational version RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GEOMETRY, which
> basically ruins the print.
[snip]
> John Schneeg, Monroe County Comm. College, MI, USA
First off, I have to admit that I have not encountered this version (I
haven't used the Educational version). Secondly, you didn't actually
ask for possible solutions, but here goes anyway ... The following
method would be rather big pain in the ___, but it's a possible
solution.
Questions: Does this "educational message" get printed before, during
or after the rest of the plot? Is your plot device by any chance
using HP-GL?
My thinking is that if you are plotting to an HP-GL device, you could
instead plot to a file and then edit the file (any text editor should
do) to remove the offending remarks. Knowing when the the "educational
message" is plotted will help to track down the offending code in the
file (for instance, the message may be appended to the plot file, then
sent to the plotter).
It would also help to know if the font printed is internal to the
plotter or generated by AutoCad, by which I mean if the font is internal
to the plotter, then the plot file will have the actual text of the
"educational message" imbedded in it. If the message was generated in
autocad, then of course the message will be just a series of pen strokes
in the plot file.
I would suggest that you create a drawing with a single line and then
create a plot file. The HP-GL commands are fairly easy to follow
(assuming you have a list of them, which shouldn't be too hard to find.
For instance, my plotter manual includes them). You should be able to
track down the offending section of code and send it into VapourSpace
(something like paperspace but different).
And there are utilities out there that will read HPGL files and plot
them out to laser printers etc.
Not elegant, but assuming there is no way to turn off this message in
the configuration, it seems to be the only solution.
Oh, and if you happen to be plotting to an HP-GL/2 device that
supports the HPCONFIG command (this may be r13 only, not sure), check to
see if the message is stored in the "annotation text" section (very
unlikely).
--
smilin' Miles Constable ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ miles@triumf.ca
"... destroy the face of stupidity and corruption and
put up in its place an edifice of truth ..."
~~ anyone know the source of this quote?
Subject: Re: AutoLISP Advice Needed
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 22 Nov 1996 04:17:40 GMT
You might want to get either or both of our new books,
Maximizing AutoCAD R13, and Maximizing AutoLISP R13.
The former was just published, the latter will be
available early next year.
You can obtain Maximizing AutoCAD R13 at most major
book store chains, or directly from Delmar/Autodesk
Press by calling 1-800-347-7707 and asking for
ISBN 0-8273-7993-5.
You may also fax orders to 606-647-5023 (include the
ISBN # above, title, author, credit card number and
expiration date, phone number, and ship-to address).
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Delfoe Trammell wrote in article
<32952302.739B@wam.umd.edu>...
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am a Computer Science/Engineering major interested in learning
AutoLISP.
> I am looking for a good AutoLISP programming book to purchase. I have a
strong
> background in FORTRAN77 and C/C++ programming languages, so it shouldn't
take me long to
> learn AutoLISP code. I currently work as a drafter using AutoCAD R12 for
Windows and
> need to optimize my designs more efficiently. If anyone has any
information or
> suggestions where I could find a good AutoLISP book, please email me.
Thanks.
>
Subject: Re: Color Pallette
From: K Murray
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:34:42 -0800
Dennis Shinn wrote:
>
> K Murray wrote:
>
> >To Any or All :
>
> > Is there a way in R13 to change the Color Pallete ? For example : to
> >change color 2 from blue to green ??
>
> In R12 using third party software display drivers it was possible to do this.
> Depending on the how you have your R13 set up, what kind of display driver your
> using, it may still be possible.
>
> Just curious - why on earth would you want to change the standard colors?
>
> Dennis Shinn
> Seattle AutoCAD User Group
> SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
> CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Hi Dennis -
Just was checking out the possibilities, thinking maybe I had missed
something easy. Also it had to do with some plotting trouble we have
been having with a HP650C.
With this info, I'll have to try a diffrent problem-solving approach !!
Thanks Again,
Kevin Murray
Electrical Designer
Hamlin, NY
Subject: Re: acad r12 dos select line problem
From: Sean Kenny
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:45:45 +1100
cuh2a@aol.com wrote:
>
> i have a autolisp routine for acad r12dos that allows an electrical
> engineer/drafter
> to draw plug molds via the line command, directly over top of a line that
> resides
> on an xref'd drawing.
>
> when the routine prompts him to pick the line to create the plugmold,
> the line on the xref'd drawing gets selected first instead of the newly
> drawn line.
>
> is there any way i can reset the select objects hierarchy in acad 12dos so
> that
> his plug mold line gets picked first, instead of the line on the xref'd
> drawing.
>
> layer locking the xref'd drawing layers does not work.
>
> thanks
>
> michael pacholski
> cadd operations mgr
>
> pach@cuh2a.com
> cuh2a@aol.com
Try setting your SORTENTS system variable to 31. The default is usually
96. This means that the last object drawn is not necessarily the one on
top when you have coincident objects. Sortents is saved in the config,
so if you change it, it will remain at that value even if you open other
drawings.
Hope this helps!
Kind Regards
Sean Kenny
Subject: Help with Survey
From: "Joseph Shiuan"
Date: 22 Nov 1996 05:58:28 GMT
Hi, I am Joseph, an MBA student doing market research for a company called
Genovation, which is introducing a new product. The product is Function
Keypad 35, which is a compact, all-purpose, commercial grade, programmable
35 key computer input device. Its principal purpose is to provide single
keystroke macros for commonly used key-press sequences thus eliminating the
need for time consuming, repetitious and error prone typing of commands.
Typical applications for the Function Keypad 35 include control of
equipment and specialized software programs, and rapid entry of computer
commands in lieu of windows icons for speed sensitive applications such as
CAD or flight simulation games.
Specifications:
interfaces to any computer via the RS232 serial port
fully programmable by any of two key-definition software modules
user may elect to individually define and store up to 70 custom macros (2
per key) in nonvolatile memory within the keypad, or download and store
macros from the computer
Genovation's software driver provided for this mode is fully compatible
with DOS, Windows 3.1 & Windows 95.
7 by 5 relegendable keys arranged in a matrix, and any two adjacent keys
may be replaced by a double key
dark gray keypad measures 15 x 11 cm (6" x 4.5"), and weighs under 400
grams
Survey:
1) Is this a product that you can see a current application for or maybe a
future use for it?
2) What if there was a touchscreen variation of it?
3) What additional features would you like to see?
4) How much would you expect to pay?
Thank you very much for your time and response.
For more information check out:
http://www.genovation.com
Subject: Re: blocks
From: "R. Keith Thomas"
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:09:54 -0500
spider wrote:
>
> I created a wblock inserted it into a new drawing, then decided that
> changes had to be made to this block. so I called up the wblock made
> changes and saved it with the same file name. then when I try to insert
> it into a drawing ,the old block is inserted instead of the revised one.
> How do I get the revised block into my drawing without erasing the old
> block, closeing the drawing then re-open it and purge the old block? I
> know there is a way, I just forgot it.
> regards
> spider
Spider,
When the INSERT command asks for the block name, respond with
blockname=blockname. This will cause AutoCAD to look at the updated
file (wblock) outside the current drawing to update the block definition
which resides inside the current drawing.
Subject: Installing ACAD r13c4 Under WinNT 4.0
From: "Stephen W. Lee"
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:08:57 -0500
Hi,
I can not seem to get AutoCAD R13c4 installed under a _new_
installation of WinNT 4.0 on a DEC Alpha. The
"InstallShield" (or whatever it is called) always stops at
22% during its loading process. My dealer said that this
happens with WinNT 4.0 upgrades, but, according to Autodesk,
should not happen on fresh WinNT 4.0 installs. However, I
have tried both, and I get the same error in each case.
I was able to get the original version of R13c2b installed,
but it has its own problems.
Does anyone know how to get R13c4 installed on a DEC Alpha
running WinNT 4.0?
Thanks in advance for your help!
--
Steve Lee ------- steve_lee@ycrdi.com
Senior Mechanical Engineer
Young Chang R+D Institute
--Engineers of Kurzweil Music Systems/Young Chang Products--
Subject: Re: Extract along a 3D Spline
From: Morten Warankov
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:30:52 +0100
Lee,
If you want to be precise, you should also be correct!
What you're saying is not true.
You cannot extrude along a splined 'AcDb3dPolyline' (for instance drawn
with the '3DPOLY' command and splined with the 'PEDIT' command). The
term 3D Polyline is not defined by Tony Tanzillo or myself. I cannot
tell what's Tony's opinion, but when I'm talking about a 3D Polyline
it's just an abbreveation for an 'AcDb3DPolyline' object (and from
Tony's text I think he's of the same opinion). And it doesn't matter
whether it's planar or not. The command 'EXTRUDE' just don't accept any
'AcDb3DPolyline' as a path. And if '3D' and '2D' is not applicable
terms, you should tell your own developers. They called it
'AcDb2DPolyline' and AcDb3Dpolyline' !!
Don't lead Autocad users into more confusion than nescessary, some may
even try to do this.
Mortenw
Lee Harding wrote:
>
> Let's be precise here: Non-planar splines cannot be used as extrusion
> paths. But, you can extrude along planar splines. The terms '3D' and '2D'
> are not really applicable in this context.
>
> Tony Tanzillo wrote in article
> <01bbd76c$c71b1020$d67174cf@pentiumpro>...
> : No - They haven't fixed it in C4a. 3D Splines cannot be
> : used as extrusion paths.
Subject: Re: blocks
From: tschemer@ping.at (Andreas Tschemer)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 06:38:59 GMT
On Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:56:17 -0800, spider
wrote:
>I created a wblock inserted it into a new drawing, then decided that
>changes had to be made to this block. so I called up the wblock made
>changes and saved it with the same file name. then when I try to insert
>it into a drawing ,the old block is inserted instead of the revised one.
>How do I get the revised block into my drawing without erasing the old
>block, closeing the drawing then re-open it and purge the old block? I
>know there is a way, I just forgot it.
>regards
>spider
You can the new stuff _DDINSERT, to explicit load the block from File,
or use the INSERT command with then blockname followed by a
equal-sign, and then optional the path and filename:
INSERT BNAME= or
INSERT BNAME=C:\TEST\DUMMY\BLOCKS\THE_FILE_NAME_OF_THE_BLOCK
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Subject: Re: Wintab Drivers
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:05:45 GMT
On 21 Nov 1996 05:49:12 GMT, tasgeol@tassie.net.au (Rodney Wilson)
wrote:
>I am looking for a wintab driver for an OCE digitiser, The OCE web site
>does not have any drivers for their digitisers and their support people
>are less than helpfull.
>
>Does anyone have a suggestions on which driver(s) I should use, and
>where on the net can I find them.
So you are the other one ;-) My client was sold one of these.
Unfortunately the pick button has just about had it, and no
replacement is available.
As far as a WinTab driver, the Summagraphics one should work fine.
The Summagraphics site is at www.summagraphics.com
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
Subject: Re: R13 student version from Addison-Wesley - FLAWED!!!!
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:05:47 GMT
On 21 Nov 1996 06:23:27 GMT, "John Schneeg"
wrote:
>However, the network copies were r13c4a and marked on the title bar as an
>Educational Version. To my extreme displeasure, all plots made by this
>newer version have a very distracting message tagging them as being printed
>from an educational version RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GEOMETRY, which
>basically ruins the print.
Unfortunately, it is the general abuse of educational version licenses
which has caused Autodesk to print the banner.
This has been discussed before. The point is that you are using the
program to teach people to use AutoCAD. They are not supposed to use
it in a commercial way. If a banner is printed then I, for one, will
not look unfavourably on a portfolio of drawings presented to me if I
was interviewing for a position. I would also suspect that the vast
majority of employers would also feel the same way.
>Although the software is 100% functional, all student versions are
>currently FLAWED in the same way. The r13 edition is also hardware locked,
>unlike the r12 student edition. The cost is $350 outright, or $195 plus
>your r12 student edition CD as a trade-up.
But hardware lock or no hardware lock, you are only supposed to have a
single installation per license anyway. What the hardware lock does
is enforce this. Once again, this has been done because of the high
level of license abuse.
>I am really upset by this - my students' portfolios are ruined, and my
>electronics students cannot print usable printed circuit artwork. I am in
>all seriousness considering never upgrading my remaining r12's, and buying
>into MicroStation for our future CAD offerings. I've been a fan of AutoCAD
>since version 2.12 - this is a real tragedy. I hope AutoDesk reconsiders
>this, at least for school copies.
But, you are assuming that the portfolio is ruined. Remember, the
portfolio is only there to give an employer an indication of the
potential employee's capabilities. The banner should not detract from
this.
Now, if you want to produce printed circuit masks, the college will
have to get at least a single full license, and print/plot from it as
you are no longer using the package to teach AutoCAD.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
Subject: Re: Summa Wintab
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:05:42 GMT
On 21 Nov 1996 16:06:09 GMT, "Chuck Lambert"
wrote:
>We just installed Win95 and are using the wintab driver 2.1 for win95.
>Does anyone know how to setup the Summagraphics control panel so the puck
>buttons use the buttons setting in the autocad menu?
You need to set the properties for the buttons. Just remember that in
the screen pointing area, and in a dialog box, it is the Win 95 button
settings that apply, and in the tablet menu areas that the menu button
definitions apply.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
Subject: Re: past special bmp file????
From: Lu
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:58:24 -0800
Pascal Trahan wrote:
>
> I realy need some advice...
>
> When you past a bmp file into a autocad drawing, this file is always
> appearing on top of the drawing. Is it possible to draw over it??????
>
> Thanks...
>
> Scarpa
I had the same problem using pasteClip. Assuming you want to trace an image, try using GIFFIN.
New entities will be drawn on top of it. Do not use any linear OSNAPS though, the GIF appears to
be comprised of some sort of lines. Trace over it then move the GIF and fillet as needed.
Cheers,
Lu
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