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Chris (esc@connix.com) wrote:
: Summa has always been dependable. They seem to be up to there shoulder
: in bugs with win-95. I hope they can straighten them selves out. Until
: then, we are not purchasing any more summa tablets. We had great
: performance until win-95 came into the picture.
I can echo that; I've had experience with two brands of tablets, Summa
and [another].  The Summa tablets have proven to be far more reliable,
and Summa support has done things like send drivers just for the asking,
while Hitach^H^H^H^H^H^H the other brand  asked me how I got their 800
number and why was I calling them on it; here's our toll number and the new
driver was $50 when I called them.  Over 3 years of daily use on about
10 tablets each; 5 dead brand X pucks @ $100 each, 0 dead summa pucks.
Too bad they're having trouble with Win95.

aabita@synapsis.it (aabita) wrote:
>Is possible to plot math function in Autocad r13?
>Mercě
>
What are you lookling for? There is an old Autolisp program called
FPLOT.LSP that allows you to plot math functions. It takes a litle bit
of lisp knowledge in that you have to define each math function as a
lisp function and then pass that function to FPLOT.
If you are interested send me an email and I'll forward it along.
-Jim Fitzgerald

Bo Rönnstedt wrote:
> Educational version are not only "for the express purpose .....how to
> use the software". Of course students also must learn how to use modern
> drawing tools in other classes e.g. Design.
Whether the students are learning the specifics of how to use the
software or how to use the software to solve design problems or
engineering problems or any other types of problems...the point is
they are learning how to use the software.
> I too could find it annoying with an "educational banner" stamped on the
> drawing. It all depends on the look of it. It should be rather discreet.
> Here in Sweden all copies of AutoCAD, "educational" or not, have an
> hardware lock solving the problem of program copying but not of misuse
> for non-educational purposes. The latter should be a smaller problem.
> And: To me it sounds like a perfect task for the students to make
> construction documents for new buildings on campus. That´s realistic
> education! Then the "educational banner" should be discreet enough not
> to hide important information in the drawing.
> I have used a swedish Construction Cost Estimates Program where
> "Educational version" was stamped on every printed sheet in a larger big
> fat font killing lots of information needed further on!
I wasn't debating the educational banner...I agree if they have a
banner it should be discreet. I also think that having students
working on real projects is a great way to learn. But this didn't
sound like the situation. Nowhere in the original post did it mention
students working on projects...it mentioned a professional Facilities
Management Department trying to get work done with educational
software. In addition, if students are doing work for a the Facilities
Management Dept., they should be using that departments fully licensed
versions to do the work.
> In short: Educational versions are not only for learning use of the
> program but also learning when and how it should be used in a real life
> professional situation. That´s good for business later on too!
So does that mean that if a company hires a person to do work and they
don't know how to use AutoCAD, then that company should be entitled to
an educational version of AutoCAD until that person gets up and
running? Hell, I (and I would think most people) learn something new
every day...should we all be using educational software?
The fact is that if the drawings are used for professional purposes
(i.e. someone makes money from them), the drawings should not be
created with an educational version.
BTW...I have learned that we may be talking about something unrelated
to the original post. It seems that Autodesk may have sent out
"educational" updates to legitimate users. If that is the case in this
situation then Autodesk goofed. 
See...I learned something new. 
-Jim Fitzgerald

I've seen a number of posts regarding splitting comp.cad.autocad, and
myriad reasons for how, why, when, etc.  Could someone explain why it's
apparently so difficult to set up a new newsgroup, when there are 6
different groups for a game like Quake which was released just a couple of
months ago?  Admittedly I like to play Quake, but I make my living with
AutoCAD, and would like to see some more specific topics available.  Anyone
care to edify me?
David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
delliottg@olywa.net

Felix Alvarez Jr. wrote:
> 
>... where the best place to the most up to date DXF
> specifications would be. I have the AutoCAD relase 13 Manual set but
> there seem to be things left out of it. I,
> --Felix
Felix-
Send me your mailing address (US Mail that is) and I'll mail you the
latest and greatest DXF spec in hardcopy form (some earlier releases of
the DXF spec did have some bugs).
Cheers,
Jim Q

owner of R12 serial 110-10708584: reply to mvlblm@dtc.net
re: your AME code number!

In article <577vtb$qna@viper.shadow.net>, jdunfee@shadow.net says...
>   I think I may have posed this problem a while back, but have never
> gotten a solution.
>   I have attempted to attach drawings to e-mail messages.  It works
> for smaller files. But a file over 90k has only about a 50% chance of
> getting from my employer to me. The E-mail with the attachment is not
> recieved in any form and there are no error messages sent back to the
> origionator.
Check with your ISP's and see if there's a mail box limit.  I've sent in 
excess of 85Meg (Compressed) of drawings in one shot without a problem.  
I did have to call my ISP and have them bump up my storage limit as well, 
the client needed to this also.
Sincerely,
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In article <01bbd259$bab0eca0$a13aa3cd@david>, delliottg@olywa.net 
says...
> I've received a drawing from one of our consultants, where they have xref'd
> about 12-15 DWGs.  I have all of the xref DWGs, or at least I think I do. 
> They all have the original paths bound to the xref (which seems to be a
> network drive, I could put the xrefs on another of our machines, copy the
> files over, and map the drive, but that seems stupid and
> counterproductive), I've tried to redirect the path using the XREF PATH
> command, but it keeps puking.
> So, my question is, is there a simple way to strip the path from an xref? 
> Am I missing something?  The book says you can do multiple files at the
> same time (at least that's what it seems to be saying), but I'm doing
> something wrong.
> Anyone have a solution?
David,
There's a utility on our "AutoCAD Utilities" page that will do this.
Sincerely,
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Hi
has anyone succeded in dimensioning an angle that's
greater than 179 degrees ???
What's that dim variable to get a dim like like 279 degree ??
thanks forward
Jens

Ok, I am about at my wits end here; I REALLY hope someone can help me
before I !@#$@#$%!%....
pant
pant
pant.
sorry. 
Ok, here goes
Running AutocadLT 3 for Win 95.
I have 3 title blocks, one at Csize, Dsize, Aszize,etc.
The Title layers are all in paper space, as seems to make the most
sense. I work in model space, and scale view ports with Zoom XP, etc..
I started a drawing with Dsize (24x36) as a template. I decided to use
an Asize sheet to plot on, so I tried to insert the Asize into paper
space; I typed DDINSERT, choose file, found it, and double clicked it.
Ok so far...
I hit ok, and right away I see something is not right; the prompt says
Insertion point; but there is no outline of the block. Anyway, I keep
going, go thru all the prompts, (XY scale, etc.) and when I am done,
nothing happens; there is no block, no errors reported; just nothing. 
Its as if all went fine, but the block i selected is not in my
drawing; well, actually, if I choose to insert another block, it IS
listed, as a block in the drawing, but I could insert it 1,000 times
and never see it.
Am I missing something here? should this be this complicated?
I am sure there must be some little twiddle or variable somewhere
called  BLOCKIAMSTUPID or something that needs to be switched on or
off....
I have tried this both in Paper space and in model space.
No luck either way. 
I *have* successfully inserted blocks as files before, so I am
inclined to think this has to do with these title block drawings, but
I have no clue as to what it may be.
Any info helpful,
tony
********************************
"Never laugh at live dragons..."
J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
*********************************

wmill@execpc.com wrote:
>Ok, I am about at my wits end here; I REALLY hope someone can help me
>before I !@#$@#$%!%....
>pant
>pant
>pant.
>sorry. 
>
>
>Ok, here goes
>Running AutocadLT 3 for Win 95.
>
>I have 3 title blocks, one at Csize, Dsize, Aszize,etc.
>The Title layers are all in paper space, as seems to make the most
>sense. I work in model space, and scale view ports with Zoom XP, etc..
>
There is your problem right there. The stuff you are trying to insert
was drawn in paper space. I haven't tried this in LT but in R13 when
you insert a dwg file into a drawing, AutoCAD ignores all the paper
space stuff in the dwg file you are inserting. If the drawing your are
inserting has nothing *but* paper space objects, you get nada.
When you insert  a drawing file it is turned into a block definition,
and I think that block definitions just don't have any kind of
allowance for paper space objects. It would seem like a pretty easy
thing for Autodesk to implement but it just hasn't been implemented
for whatever reason.
So I believe the solution to your problem is to create your title
blocks in model space, and then insert them into paper space.
If you need to move your title blocks from paper space into model
space, open up the title block, switch to paper space, then use the
WBLOCK command and wblock all the paper space stuff to a new file.
When you open the new file, all the paper space stuff (even the
viewports oddly enough) will be in model space.
Hope this helps.
-Jim Fitzgerald

Jace Paddleford  wrote:
>hey jim--
>no errors reported. the command prompt has the \ spining for a moment
>then nothing.  i can render the models in r13: assign materials &
>lights..
>
>other than that i'm not sure what info you might need..
>
You might have to try some different things to find out what about it
is failing. 
Does this happen with all models or just particular ones? Are your
models solids or surfaces, or both? Are you using any third party
software? Which rev of R13 is it (c2, c3, c4, c4a)? Is there something
in your prototype drawing that is causing it to choke?
You might try creating some very simple solid models in a clean
drawing (no prototype) and see if those export. Try the same with a
surface model.
Anything else unusual? What are you running R13 in  (DOS, 95, NT 3.51,
NT 4.0)? What kind of system? Have enough hard disk space? Are you
wearing your lucky socks? Got milk?
Just suggestions....I have no idea what the problem might be.
-Jim Fitzgerald

Dev-null (whoever that is) has nothing better to do then berate people. 
Get a life idiot and stop hiding behind some bogus email address.
tmosher@isource.net

I have a P166 running R12 for Windows under Win 3.11 -- works great.  I 
recently installed NT4.0 (seperate install NOT upgrade) and R13 -- they 
also work great.  Next I made a NT 'shortcut' to the R12 executable.  The 
program starts up and operates (draw and save) just fine.  When I try to 
open a file (created in R12 under 3.11 or NT) only a very small portion of 
the information seems to get to R12.  Any ideas ??
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Jim Fitzgerald wrote:
> 
> Jace Paddleford  wrote:
> 
> >can someone help me???????
> >when i try to do a 3dsout in r13 my system locks up.  the model was
> >created in r13.
> >
> 
> Any errors reported? What does the command prompt say before it locks
> up?The 3DSOUT command causes the rendering application to load. Maybe
> your render isn't set up properly. Try typing RCONFIG at the command
> prompt and check the settings.
> 
> Other than that I think we need a little more information.
> 
> -Jim Fitzgerald
hey jim--
no errors reported. the command prompt has the \ spining for a moment
then nothing.  i can render the models in r13: assign materials &
lights..
other than that i'm not sure what info you might need..
thanks for any help,
jace paddleford
gsot@ionet.net

I have a 486-66 with 20MB RAM, and Windows 3.11, I'm running R13c3, and I
was running the windows version just to mess around, then I double clicked
on the R13 icon and AutoCAD comes up and just when it looks like it
finished initializing, it goes away.  I mean no error message, no good
bye, no see you later... nothing, it just goes away.  My computer doesn't
crash or anything, it comes up and then quits, the moment AutoCAD compiles
all its necessary files it quits.  I don't remember changing anything that
may cause it to do this.  Does anyone know what I can do?
Thanks,
Adrian Laveaga
Nichols Research Corporation
Camarillo, CA

eciinc@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know a way to change text size globally?
Autodesk offers a sample lisp routine for  globally changing the size of all the 
Postscript PFB text strings in an AutoCAD R13 drawing. 
http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/lisp/td100821.htm
-Cara, Autodesk

SSJoALice@aol.com wrote:
[snip]
> Note:  The search for ACAD's driver files can be made faster
> by setting the ACADDRV environment variable to the directory
> location(s) to these files.
> 
> Warning:  During configuration an invalid entry was detected
> in the PATH environment  variable.  Please correct before
> configuring.
> 
[snip]
Sounds to me like the enviroment variables ACAD and ACADDRV are not set.
This can be done in your autoexec.bat file, or in an Acad.bat (or
similarly named file).
you should have something like
ACAD=c:\acadr12;c:\acadr12\support;c:\acadr12\fonts
(this isn't exact as I cannot remember the directory structure of r12).
likewis ACADDRV should point to the c:\acadr12\driver
directory or whatever directory contains the driver files
(again I cannot remember the r12 directory structure).
In addition, I believe using the -r switch from the command line will
invoke autocad directy into the configuration menu, bypassing any
possible problems you may be having with the drawing editor.
-- 
smilin' Miles Constable  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  miles@triumf.ca
"... destroy the face of stupidity and corruption and
  put up in its place an edifice of truth ..."
             ~~ anyone know the source of this quote?

Is there any way to plot to a networked HP 750C from AutoCAD LT for Win95
using the HPGL driver?
I have tried to plot to an autospool file but it cannot run the batch
afterwards.
What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions?

It sounds as if the block you're inserting possibly doesn't have it's
insert where you think it is.  In other words, the block might have been
built starting at 0,0 for the lower left hand corner (that's how I do my
title blocks), but the base (IE insert point) has somehow been moved.  If
it has moved substantially, say hundreds of thousands of feet (can you say
student/intern?), when you insert it, it won't show in the crosshairs, nor
will it go where you think it should because of the built in offset.  What
you can do to see if this is the problem, insert the block into a drawing,
then do a ZOOM EXTENTS.  If the block inserted, it should show up some
where.  If you had entities in the drawing, most likely you will have two
little dots in opposite corners.  If you zoom up on each of them, you'll
find the original drawing, and hopefully the nefarious block.  If you are
getting the block, then the fix is easy, open up the original drawing, and
reset the insert point using the BASE command, this allows you to either
pick the insert point, or enter a set of coordinates to set as the insert
point of the drawing.  If the block isn't inserting, go and check your
title block drawing and make sure that the title block actually exists (can
you say intern/student?).  If the block exists, then I'm stumped, if it
doesn't, then you just have to grab one of the other title blocks and scale
it to fit the missing one.  If all else fails, set the BLOCKIAMSTUPID
sysvar to 1 and see what happens.  
I hope this solves your problem, if not, feel free to email me with more
parameters to work with, and we'll get it.
David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
delliottg@olywa.net
wmill@execpc.com wrote in article <32a29db5.361071451@news.execpc.com>...
> Ok, I am about at my wits end here; I REALLY hope someone can help me
> before I !@#$@#$%!%....
> pant
> pant
> pant.
> sorry. 
> 
> 
> Ok, here goes
> Running AutocadLT 3 for Win 95.
> 
> I have 3 title blocks, one at Csize, Dsize, Aszize,etc.
> The Title layers are all in paper space, as seems to make the most
> sense. I work in model space, and scale view ports with Zoom XP, etc..
> 
> 
> I started a drawing with Dsize (24x36) as a template. I decided to use
> an Asize sheet to plot on, so I tried to insert the Asize into paper
> space; I typed DDINSERT, choose file, found it, and double clicked it.
> 
> Ok so far...
> 
> I hit ok, and right away I see something is not right; the prompt says
> 
> Insertion point; but there is no outline of the block. Anyway, I keep
> going, go thru all the prompts, (XY scale, etc.) and when I am done,
> nothing happens; there is no block, no errors reported; just nothing. 
> 
> Its as if all went fine, but the block i selected is not in my
> drawing; well, actually, if I choose to insert another block, it IS
> listed, as a block in the drawing, but I could insert it 1,000 times
> and never see it.
> 
> Am I missing something here? should this be this complicated?
> I am sure there must be some little twiddle or variable somewhere
> called  BLOCKIAMSTUPID or something that needs to be switched on or
> off....
> 
> I have tried this both in Paper space and in model space.
> No luck either way. 
> I *have* successfully inserted blocks as files before, so I am
> inclined to think this has to do with these title block drawings, but
> I have no clue as to what it may be.
> 
> Any info helpful,
> 
> tony
> 
> 
> ********************************
> "Never laugh at live dragons..."
> J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
> *********************************
> 
> 

I suppose the programmer's version of RTFM would be RTF Examples.  Many
of the sample programs have examples of ads_command usage.
For your problem, RTNONE would work.  Of course you need to get rid of
all the extra arguments after the two end-points are defined.
Look at adscodes.h which lists all the codes.  If you use ads_buildlist,
you should probably use RTDXF0 to terminate a list.
anand
John Robert Mckerlie wrote:
> 
>   I am writing a program in C using the ADS functions to control autoCAD
> 13 on a Sun sparcstation.
> 
>   Seeing that we have no manuals in the lab at school, I have nowhere else
> to ask for answers...  I am having problems sending a code to autoCAD to
> cancel a command, or tell it that I have finished, such as using the
> 'escape' key.
> 
>   Specifically, this has caused problems for me accessing LAYER, OFFSET,
> and LINE - where the line is not closed.
> 
>   Here's a snip of some code I'm using:
> 
> temp2[X] = d[X]+3.5+d[Y]/tan(STEM_ANGLE*RAD_ADJ); temp2[Y] =0;
> temp1[X] = temp2[X] - 2; temp1[Y] = 3;
> ads_command(RTSTR, "arc", RTPOINT, d, RTPOINT, temp1, RTPOINT,
>             temp2, 0);
> 
> temp2[X] = temp2[X]-1; temp1[X] = temp1[X]-1;
> temp3[X] = d[X]-1; temp3[Y] = d[Y];
> 
> ads_command(RTSTR, "arc", RTPOINT, temp3, RTPOINT, temp1, RTPOINT,
>             temp2, 0);
> 
> ads_command(RTSTR, "zoom", RTSTR, "c", RTPOINT, temp2, RTREAL,
>             3.0, 0);
> 
> temp2[X] = temp2[X] + 1; temp1[X] = temp2[X] - 1; temp1[Y] = 0;
> ads_command(RTSTR, "arc", RTSTR, "c", RTPOINT, temp1, RTPOINT, temp2,
>             RTREAL, .5);
> ads_command(RTSTR, "line", RTSTR, "end", RTPOINT, temp2, RTSTR,
>             "end", RTPOINT, temp1, RTSTR, "none", RTSTR, "none",
>             RTSTR, "", 0);
> 
> ----------------
> 
>   This last line, in particular is the one that still is expecting more
> segments to be added.
> 
>   Any help would be appreciated!

Brian Allardice wrote:

> The trick is abstracting, organising and presenting the
> relevant data (and no more, mind you: this is where VR is a crock 
>except for pulling the wool over the clients eyes)
This is not at all true.  While I will freely admit that VR is overhyped 
at the moment, and too many people are spending too much time making sure 
that you can see the reflections of the ducks in the pond on the windows, 
VR (When did it become VR and stop being solid modeling?) is (or can be) 
a very useful tool.
Just as you said, there are engineers and designers who have no clue how 
to communicate their ideas, and for them, no tool will help.  However, 
for the same reasons that CAD is better then pens and a board, solid 
modeling is better than 2D cad.
Better tools help the good engineers, designers and architects be more 
productive.  This has always been the case.  Unfortunatly, the same tools 
also allow the bad engineers, designers and architects produce greater 
quantities of crap.  Because this crap can now look very sexy, people 
often forget to check on the details.
As you said, the most important piece of the puzzle is a mind capable of 
creating a design, and successfully communicating it to others.
Bob May

I am working in AutoCAD's ASE environment and am constantly linking
database records to AutoCAD entities.  
My problem exists when trying to retrieve these records from entites
(specifically polygons) where the polygon boundaries are coincident. 
The result of my selection of a polygon boundary could be the one I am
hoping to pick OR the colinear polygon entity.  If a polygon is
"landlocked" or cannot be selected because other polygon boundaries are
coincident and/or "on top", I am up the creek...
So, has anyone been able to get around this..Using a point in polygon
selection method?  
I hope I have made this clear enough to respond to...Thank You

In article <3296A6A9.38F3@worldnet.att.net>, somebody
 wrote:
> if a company gives out copies of acad software to it's employees, can 
> autodesk sue this company?
As others have pointed out, the answer is "yes".
Perhaps more importantly, if the pirated software were used in some kind
of contract work it may void the contract since the State, as a matter of
public policy, does not support illegal actions in performance of an
otherwise legal contract.
In addition, if your company became the defendant in an "errors and
omissions" tort liability case, the use of illegal copies of software may
also void the insurance company's duty to pay your damamges bill should
you lose the lawsuit.
Please check it out with your company's attorney. 
chris
"But Eeyore, what if it doesn't rain?"

    I am having the same problem with Windows95 after closing multiple
sessions of AutoCAD.  Is there a solution for this?  Or can I not run
multiple sessions?
    I am running W95 on a pent 100 w/32 meg ram, 2 meg video,
SummaSketch III (using SummaSoft 2.0 software and Proxy mouse) on a
Windows pier to pier network.
Please help,
    Michael F.
Cara Denko  wrote:
>Miles Constable wrote:
>> 
>> I have seen a number of articles in the last few weeks (months?) that
>> allude to this problem (AutoCad r13c4a not exiting properly in Windows
>> NT 4.0).
>> 
>> And I have seen nary a response from our AutoDesk Lurkers.
>> 
>> Not even a curt "at this time AutoDesk does not recommend running
>> AutoCad r13 under Windows NT 4.0" (or words to that effect) or some such
>> similar nonsense.
>> 
>> Hey AutoDesk! What's the story? (r13 c5 here we come?)
>> 
>> Anyway, I can't remember if anyone from autodesk posted this pointer,
>> but the article located at
>> http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/acadicp/td101346.htm
>> touches on the subject of digitizers and the possible adverse effects to
>> processor usage, etc. etc.
>Hi Miles,
>AutoCAD R13c4a *is* officially supported under Windows NT 4.0.
>The document you mention (TD101346) applies to both Windows NT 4.0 and 3.51, and the 
>performance degradation only occurs after closing multiple sessions of AutoCAD, if
>AutoCAD is configured for a digitizer rather than the system pointing device. (That 
>document isn't an NT 4.0-specific issue.)
>If you are experiencing a different problem specific to NT 4.0, please post the 
>details of that problem, or point me to the articles you mention.
>Thanks,
>-Cara, Autodesk

To All,
	Working with AutoCad r13c4 at work, I constantly reach the maximum
number of layers allowed. Once beyond this point, the program allows me
to add new layers, however all layers are displayed sorted by when they
were created not alphabetically.  This problem makes getting around
large drawings with hundreds of components very, very difficult. All of
our work is done in groups all identified by assembly names.
	Is there a way to get around this problem, if so please let me know at
the following address.
scassidy@wincom.net

how do I link up to Access with my title block? I have other information
that I want to take off of the drawings as well, but once I know how to do
it with one thing then I can do it with another. 
I wish to have all the data from all similar drawings in one data base.
Any help will be appreciated
-- 
From the mind of a really interesting guy.
And humble too...

Could someone please what is the big ta-do about Hershey fonts and
their value to the AutoCad user?

P e t r o s P r o e s t o s wrote:
> 
> Does anybody knows the difference
> for the versions c4 and c4a
> of the Autodesk AutoCAD 13 for Windows 95?
> 
> Thank you much.
> --
> http://www.compulink.gr/users/propet/propet.html
Look at www.autodesk.com/pub/autocad/patches/r13c4a
	good luck,
		   jerry

chris mortimer  wrote:
>Hi i'd like to thank you all for the help so far its helped a lot,
>but I have another problem, it has just developed this morning.
>On a particular plot (I havent tried anyothers since yet) one of the 
>layers seems to be in the wrong place, the dimensions are out in the x 
>and y plane but only on the drawing.The others seem to be in the right 
>place.It si noticeable on the drawing and cannot think what else to do.I 
>have already tried a different pen and tried puting the dims on a 
>different layer. Any help much appreciated.
>Regards Chris.M.
I had this problem to start spontaneously.  I still don't know why.
My workaround is to turn the plotter off and back on right before
sending the plot to it.  (possibly a reset  ?)
I you find a real solution, let me know, Good luck.
Steve

Hi,
	I tried to use ENTMAKE 3D polylines but get weird results.
	Can any boby give me a hint(sample program)?
	Thanks in advance!
	TOM CHIA

Matt Ridge wrote:
> 
> I am fairly new at using the solids poriton of AutoCad and a have a
> question concerning the process of dimensioning.
> 
> I cannot use dimensioning commands such as radius, diameter, center,
> etc. on the circles in any of the viewports. After drawing my solid, I
> switched to paper space and used SOLVIEW to create my needed viewports.
> Then I used SOLDRAW to create the lines in each viewport. So far, so
> good. When I try to select any of the objects in the viewport, they are
> not selectable. All of the layers are on, thawed and unlocked. Here's
> the weirdest part:  I can use snaps like center and endpoint on the
> objects, but not quadrant, nearest, etc.
> 
> The workaround I have used is to draw another circle on top of the
> existing one and dimension this.
> 
> Let me know if there is a better way.
> 
> Matt Ridge
Of course, you can always wblock the lines after soldraw.  Then, you'll 
be able to dimension it.

I'm looking for a utility that encrypts AutoLISP files.  Any ideas?  TIA.
Mark

chris mortimer  wrote:
>Hi i'd like to thank you all for the help so far its helped a lot,
>but I have another problem, it has just developed this morning.
>On a particular plot (I havent tried anyothers since yet) one of the 
>layers seems to be in the wrong place, the dimensions are out in the x 
>and y plane but only on the drawing.The others seem to be in the right 
>place.It si noticeable on the drawing and cannot think what else to do.I 
>have already tried a different pen and tried puting the dims on a 
>different layer. Any help much appreciated.
>Regards Chris.M.
I had this problem to start spontaneously.  I still don't know why.
My workaround is to turn the plotter off and back on right before
sending the plot to it.  (possibly a reset  ?)
I you find a real solution, let me know, Good luck.
Steve

In article  fdunner@netup.cl (F.D.M.) writes:
>From: fdunner@netup.cl (F.D.M.)
>Subject: where i can find a cad library?
>Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:13:17
>where i can find a shareware library .library of people,cars,tree,etc
>thank .
Try PIRS On-Line(tm)
http://Biz.rtd.com/insa

I just ordered a new Pentium pro 180 and was considering going with NT 4. Will 
Acad r12 for windows run? I currently have it running in Win 95  with no 
problems. Any help appreciated.

Counter on Zero wrote:
> 
> I have a problem, i want to read drawing files from a specified
> directory (cd-rom), and want to make changes in these drawings (these
> changes should be automated).
> 
> After making these changes, the drawing files should be saved to a
> different directory with the same names.
> 
> The drawings should be opened one by one.
> 
> How can i do this, with autolisp the problem is that i can't look in a
> directory and open one by one a different drawing. Also when i open a
> drawing, autocad initializes itself, and therefore i cant change
> anything to the drawing using lisp.
> 
> Please respond,
> 
> Alex Flora
> email: aflora@ccn.nl
Our program RUN LISP can do all this very quickly and easily.
Many sample programs provided (see aconvert.lsp) that does what you
described.
Download our demos from these ftp sites.
-- 
  Sierra Hermitage		
  RUN LISP - batch acad R12

  RUN LISP - batch acad R13

  DIRECTORY TAMER - Simple EDM

  BATCH PLOT - auto plot dwgs

  AUTO LOADER - alisp manage

  AUTOBMP  - dwg > bmp	

  DWGDOC - attach file to dwg

  FINDVARS - alisp helper

Need help in resolving a problem of a file becoming unmanageably large due to number of  vertices on a pline.
The base file was a survey file that we are adding new contour lines.  Once these plines are edited manually to smooth out
the curves, the pline creates a numerous amount of vertices.  So much that when the line is highlighted, you really can't tell which 
grip is on which line until you zoom in 10 times.  This creates an astronomical file size of between 10 and 22 MB today of a file 
that started at about 1 meg.  Used some normal techniques to decrease the file size, such as purge, and have gone to tracing the 
individual lines and erasing the old but this is frustrating and takes up to much time.  A 20 MB file could take 15 min to load before 
anything can even be done with it.
Running AcadR12 for DOS on P100, 1GB HD, and 64 MB ram.
Any help would be appreciated.

Your problem is due to dimension style naming. When you change a
dimensioning feature, then all dimensions with that style name will reflect
this change. If you wish to change a dimension feature and not affect other
dimensions on the drawing then create a new style name from a dimension
style closest to the appearance you want, change the feature such as force
text inside and save the new style. This is only necessary in R12 as R13
allows the user to override dimension style settings without affecting
dimensions of the same style name.
sid herbage  wrote in article <329B8FD4.193A@visgen.com>...
> (R12DOS)
> 
> When I change a dimensioning feature such as "force text inside",
> on some drawings all the existing dimensions immediately and
> automatically take on this characteristic. On other drawings that
> I'm editing, it is only applied to dimensions that I subsequently
> create.
> 
> Is there a switch that controls this?
> -- 
>     ... Sid (sid@visgen.com)
> 

On Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:20:49 +1000, michael lesyszyn
 wrote:
>Please can anyone help with solutions to the following editing problems
>?
>
>1)  I use yellow text for my dimensions - the text edit command dialog
>box has a white background and I cannot find the variable that allows me
>to change it to something darker (yellow on white is very difficult to
>read).
>
>2)  In R12 as you dimensioned, you could change the actual dimension on
>the fly,in R13 you do not have the option and have to edit after. Can
>this be changed back to the R12 way ?
>
>3)  In R12 when you edited a dimension (associative) it displayed the
>true dimension, as well as the new dimension. R13 does not seem to have
>the same function. Is there some variable I cannot find ?
>
>
>Thanks for your time
>
>
>Mike Lesyszyn
>Brisbane Australia
If you dont need associative dimensioning you can turn the dimaso
varible to off. Of course it will create no associative dimensioning
anymore but it will ask you for length and will keep much better 
editable. I use it myself this way and it works fine.
Ernest