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Just a general note to all:
I have noticed that a number of postings do not include the AutoCAD
version numbers.  Quite a number of people include the version numbers
when posting questions, however when persons are posting hints, tips,
new software to try the version numbers are omitted.  I have gone on
many a wild goose chase following a link to something that I felt I
could use only to discover that it won't work on my version of AutoCAD! 
I am sure that others have had this same sort of problem, and I can
sometimes fix the problem, I would like to know about it in advance. 
Also legally if this sort of patch is done you cannot pass the modified
software off to a friend.
So please in your postings indicate which version of AutoCAD the fix,
helpful hint, or new feature was designed for and what versions it has
been tested on.  More importantly if it will not work on some version of
AutoCAD please so indicate.
Thanks,
Roy Minut
rminut@cris.com

Joe Moses  wrote:
>I'm relatively new to ACAD R13 (and to AutoCAD in general).  In an 
>effort to speed my productivity using it, I'd like to try and assign 
>certain commands to the function keys to mimic the assignment of 
>commands from my previous CAD software.  ...
BTW: Softengine 3.7 for Win is shipping soon. Finally with the long
awaited SEKEY command.
You can define a command on every key! and and all the mouse-keyboard
combinations (eg. double-click left mouse = Zoom Window, Ctrl left =
Zoom Prev. Alt-F5 = Stretch, Ctrl-F5 = DDLMODES, and so on.)
Free demo (beta 2) is available at www.vibrant com
---
Reini Urban, TU Graz, Architecture & X-RAY
 http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/

In article <01bbdca8$599e8cc0$6a0441c2@host.telepac.pt>, "Ricardo Lopes"
 writes:
>Is there any way to plot to a networked HP 750C from AutoCAD LT for Win95
>using the HPGL driver?
>I have tried to plot to an autospool file but it cannot run the batch
>afterwards.
>What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions?
Try plotting to a file with the same name as the captured port i.e.:
LPT2.PLT. Or alternatively, you can setup the HP750C as a System Printer
and point it to the correct print queue, that should solve your problem.
HTH
Regards,
Dave
Internet:
DavidR505@aol.com

You can change your word editor to any of the popular ones (Word, Write, Wordperfect, etc).  Go 
to the Option - Preferences dialog box.  Under the Misc tab, it says Option - Text Editor.  
Initially it says "internal".  Double click on the input box labled Text Editor to highlight 
the word "internal".  Click on Browse and pick your favorite .EXE file (word.exe, write.exe, 
etc).  Click on OK and from then on when you create or edit Multiline text, you'll be using 
that word processor.
andyanders@worldnet.att.net

You can change your word editor to any of the popular ones (Word, Write, Wordperfect, etc).  Go 
to the Option - Preferences dialog box.  Under the Misc tab, it says Option - Text Editor.  
Initially it says "internal".  Double click on the input box labled Text Editor to highlight 
the word "internal".  Click on Browse and pick your favorite .EXE file (word.exe, write.exe, 
etc).  Click on OK and from then on when you create or edit Multiline text, you'll be using 
that word processor.
andyanders@worldnet.att.net

You can change your word editor to any of the popular ones (Word, Write, Wordperfect, etc).  Go 
to the Option - Preferences dialog box.  Under the Misc tab, it says Option - Text Editor.  
Initially it says "internal".  Double click on the input box labled Text Editor to highlight 
the word "internal".  Click on Browse and pick your favorite .EXE file (word.exe, write.exe, 
etc).  Click on OK and from then on when you create or edit Multiline text, you'll be using 
that word processor.
andyanders@worldnet.att.net

You can change your word editor to any of the popular ones (Word, Write, Wordperfect, etc).  Go 
to the Option - Preferences dialog box.  Under the Misc tab, it says Option - Text Editor.  
Initially it says "internal".  Double click on the input box labled Text Editor to highlight 
the word "internal".  Click on Browse and pick your favorite .EXE file (word.exe, write.exe, 
etc).  Click on OK and from then on when you create or edit Multiline text, you'll be using 
that word processor.
andyanders@worldnet.att.net

Under Options - Preferences - Misc you can change the word processor from "internal" to any 
EXE processor you want; Word, Write, Notepad, Wordperfect, etc.  Just brouse for the .exe file 
of your choice and click OK.  After that, when you create or edit Multiline text you'll be 
using your preferred word processor.
andyanders@worldnet.att.net

Under Options - Preferences - Misc you can change the word processor from "internal" to any 
EXE processor you want; Word, Write, Notepad, Wordperfect, etc.  Just brouse for the .exe file 
of your choice and click OK.  After that, when you create or edit Multiline text you'll be 
using your preferred word processor.
andyanders@worldnet.att.net

Click on Option - Properties - Misc. Double click on the "internal" under Text Editor and 
choose and .exe word processor file you want (word.exe, write.exe, etc.).  Thereafter whenever 
you create or edit Multiline text, you'll be using that processor.

My vote continues to be for the digitizer.  I have a highly cutomized 
tablet with such time savers as;
1. automatically changes current layer to DIM when any dimensioning 
command selected
2. ditto for text
3. a "compass" area for inputting length and direction of new lines (less 
important with the r13_c4 capability of simply pointing the direction 
with the mouse or cursor and keying in the distance)
4. extensive layer management and UCS management tools
5. automated insert of commonly used blocks, inlcuding drawing formats
Many of these could be progammed into popup dialog boxes, but I like a 
fixed location for finding them.
Dave Rich
==========================================
John H. wrote:
> 
> What pointer device is best for Autocad R13.... Digitizer or Mouse?
> 
> I have been using Autocad for 8 years and prefer the exactness and
> icon usage of a digitizer.  It seems that more and more companies are
> "going with" the the use of the mouse.  I want to convience my new
> employer to purchase digitizers.  I have used Kurta is one,
> Summagraphics, GTCO, and Calcomp.  Does anyone have any comments
> regarding the best pointing device?
> 
> Thanks,  John H.

Hi
    I'm trying to BMAKE some of the supplied example programs
    but the MDL help file only gives DOS examples e.g.
      set MS=\ustation\
      set BMAKE_OPT=-I\ustation\mdl\include
      cd \ustation\mdl\examples\chngtxt
      bmake chngtxt
    As I'm running under Windows 3.1 I have to use BMAKEWIN
    but can't seem to get any results.
    I've tried dragging and dropping the MKE file onto BMAKEWIN,
    amd I've added an icon to the 'Microsoft Office Manager'
    toolbar that has a command line...
    c:\ustation\mdl\bin\bmake.exe c:\ustation\mdl\examples\chngtxt 
    ... but I can't create the MA file.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Alan Williams    EMail  alan@awol.demon.co.uk      (Home)
                        taymel.cad@taywood.co.uk   (Work)

On 29 Nov 1996 17:07:35 GMT, "doug"  wrote:
>in R12: is it possible to "de-select" one object of many that one may have
>already selected?  Only way I know is to "contrl C" and start over.
>
>Thanks
Before finishing selecting objects, type "r" to remove objects from
your selection group.  If you want to add more objects, type "a".
This should work.

Pushing higher-order entities out of the plot  pipeline has been on our
todo list for a while.  
The one place where higher order objects are present in the output is
PostScript.  
The PSOUT command includes text, arcs, circles, etc.. in a compact form,
rather 
than vectorizing all these objects.
We hear you.
Amar Hanspal
Autodesk Inc.
>   This has really been a problem for me on many projects. I have even
> had to redraw object in other programs when I tried to bring in
> AutoCAD drawings becuse AutoCAD has always converted curves to line
> segments when it was exported WMF and other formats. I think that
> HPGL2 supports curves - WHY DOESN'T AutoCAD!  Perhaps there is a real
> reason, but I sure would like to have a work around this.
>   It is not just the loss of the curves- but a simple drawing with
> alot of curves becomes EXTREMELY large when it gets mangled in this
> manner.

I recently "upgraded" from R12 to R13 which is installed under Windows WFW 3.11.
(Installed on a ZEOS Pentium 90 w/16 MB DRAM).  I find that everything runs MUCH
slower than R12 under DOS and the WINDOWS Stle interface is clumsy and not very
productive. Is there something wrong here or is this truly indicative of R13
performance? R12 came with a template for my 12 x 12 Digitizer which is my primary
interface for Autocad 12. Is there a template file somewhere in Autocad 13 that
is somewhat compatible with the R12 version? Any helpful comments will be very 
welcome and much appreciated.

I'm having a problem printing from R12 to my HP XL300. The problem occures when I try printing  in 11x17 format. the autocad full preview shows exactly what I need, however the printer only prints 8 1/2" x17. This cuts out part of the drawing.
If anyone has a suggestion please let me know.
Thanks
MIRO

Joe,
Thanks for the suggestion.  We will add it to our list for future AutoCAD
releases.
>   Perhaps this could be done by having a new setting in the layer
> controls. In addition to "Freeze" and "Off", perhaps a layer could be
> "Ghosted". Then another setting determines what color (and weight) to
> disply and plot those layers at.
> 

Hi Vladmir,
I didn't quite complete my reply yesterday.  
I did want to acknowledge your point about the fact that R13 uses up more
memory than
R12 does, so I'm not disagreeing with you here.   R13 was really a
re-architecture of the
guts of AutoCAD's database to provide a solid base for the future.  In many
ways, R13 
is like Windows NT 3.0 was - a fundamentally new system which took a couple
of years to 
settle in. NT 3.51 now is everywhere you look, and it took Microsoft and
its partners a 
couple of years to tune it, and leverage its fundamental strengths.  
R13 did demand more memory and processor speed than the system that most
customers
had when it first came out in 1994.  (So did NT, when it first came out in
1992).  Since then, 
we've been tuning the product and the hardware has been catching up.
Some of our partners, Softdesk for example, have started leveraging the new
database, and
find that they can store their objects in a much more compact form than the
R12 architecture
would have allowed.  Both file sizes and memory footprints are *smaller*
for their objects with
custom objects.  We've been leveraging R13 in the Autodesk Mechanical
Desktop, etc.
So, sure in the short term, we'll take some heat for increased memory
requirements, but in
the long term, we will demonstrate why re-architecting AutoCAD in R13 was a
good idea. 

Vladmir,
For 12+ years, AutoCAD has been a portable self-contained app.  Release
13 runs on Wintel, Alpha, and UNIX machines.  We were one of the first 
products that provided binary file compatibility across platforms (in
1987).
Our decision to focus on 32-bit Windows environments has more to do with
the fact 
that most of our customers have chosen 32-bit Windows as their platform,
and we 
want to focus our efforts where we can make the most difference, instead of
always
dropping to the "lowest common denominator" approach.
Our platform strategy has less to do with our COM/OLE model and even less
to do with 
our desire to work hard to satisfy our customers.
> 
> As I see it, instead of writing portable self-contained app
> like Microstation did, Adesk goes with COM/OLE as implementation
> for their OO. That's the real problem here. If there would be
> COM/OLE support on Linux, ACAD would probably run on it.
> Oh no -- but they use MFC now! That's another issue.
> BTW, everyone knows that you don't have to use C++ exclusivly
> to get OOD, you would just have to work harder (and then
> C++ means MFC for Microsoft...)

Vladmir,
For 12+ years, AutoCAD has been a portable self-contained app.  Release
13 runs on Wintel, Alpha, and UNIX machines.  We were one of the first 
products that provided binary file compatibility across platforms (in
1987).
Our decision to focus on 32-bit Windows environments has more to do with
the fact 
that most of our customers have chosen 32-bit Windows as their platform,
and we 
want to focus our efforts where we can make the most difference, instead of
always
dropping to the "lowest common denominator" approach.
Our platform strategy has less to do with our COM/OLE model and even less
to do with 
our desire to work hard to satisfy our customers.
> 
> As I see it, instead of writing portable self-contained app
> like Microstation did, Adesk goes with COM/OLE as implementation
> for their OO. That's the real problem here. If there would be
> COM/OLE support on Linux, ACAD would probably run on it.
> Oh no -- but they use MFC now! That's another issue.
> BTW, everyone knows that you don't have to use C++ exclusivly
> to get OOD, you would just have to work harder (and then
> C++ means MFC for Microsoft...)

Hi Dennis,
The custom object implementation in R13 was R1.0 of the new object model. 
We've been
collecting feedback from customers and developers on improving the API and
interoperability 
issues.  We totally hear your and Reini's comments.
As they say, AutoLISP wasn't built in a day ;-)
Best regards,
Amar Hanspal
Autodesk Inc.
Dennis Shinn  wrote in article
<56udgs$oa2@news1.halcyon.com>...
> rurban@xarch.tu-graz.ac.at (Reini Urban) wrote:
> 
> >But the R14 DWG format will be extended to contain code (methods) to
view
> >(at least), print and maybe move, scale, rotate and stretch zombies.
> 
> The only "real" need I can see is the ability of straight AutoCAD to be
able to
> recognize the geometry in such a way as to allow placing other objects in
> relation to it. In other words, just allowing osnaps to its geometry.
> 
> In it's current incarnation it's nothing but a sales ploy to make
everyone buy
> Mechanical Desktop in order to work with these objects.
> 

In article <329B1BE2.494@cyberenet.net> rhmdc@cyberenet.net writes:
>Anyone know how to use R13 to create a solid topo model? I've been using
>the sketch command to trace topo lines on my digitizer and then use the
>pedit command to join the fragments into a single pline.  I'm trying to
>extrude that pline into a solid object that can be joined to
>others...thereby creating a solid topo model that I can work with to
>build a structure.  I can't get the new plines to extrude into a solid
>3D object!  Any ideas?
    John G.
    Is it a solid or a surface that you wish?
    I would have thought that a surface will do, if so
    Use RULESURF between two plines.
    If a solid is what you want make the Z difference small
    and use EXTRUDE with an angle, but this can only be approximate.
    My aim is to please                  Terry A Rawkins
                                         66 Gainsborough Bracknell
    Email =  softTAR@SV.Span.com         Berks UK RG12 7WL           
    Also at TerryR@Bracknell.ac.uk

Alan Williams  wrote:
>    I'm trying to BMAKE some of the supplied example programs
>    but the MDL help file only gives DOS examples e.g.
[snip]
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I have a Pentium 133 with 16 meg of ram.  I am using r13_c3h.  I have open
an r12 drawing in r13 and began editing it.  Things were going fine until
I attempted an angular dimension on a closed polyline line that has been
hatched.  As soon as I picked the first line of the angular dimension it
created a fatal error !stub.cc@187.  I repeated this several times with
the same results.  I have successfully made a other angular dimensions on
other closed polllines in the same drawing. albeit they were 90 deg.
angles.  I attempted creating two independant lines and angular
dimensionings them with the same fatal error results.  This error has
occured everytime in the same drawing in either a dos or window platform. 
Has anybody got a solution or expierenced simular problems?
M. Benning
pjb44mnb44@aol,com

In R13C4 for Windows, if you open a new drawing; insert a block and then
do an UNDO BACK the insert is not undone.
Is this a known bug in R13C4?
TIA
Rod Young

How do I modify Rel12/win95 so that a listing of a directory of my
blocks is listed alphabetically?  Thanx
-- 
Robert B. Price - gearknox@capital.net
Automation*Gears*Machinery

On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:29:03 +0100, Morten Warankov
 wrote:
>Ian A. White wrote:
>> 
>> Try the SETENV and GETENV functions.
>
>There is no such lisp command as setenv.
>A possibility (untried) is: (command "shell" "set myacad=tull")
>but I know there's some restrictions to set environment variables within
>an application.
But I said the SETENV and GETENV *functions* and not commands.  These
are AutoLISP functions.
Because LT does not have AutoLISP, these are commands there.
By the way, your AutoLISP code would not do anything, as you are
setting environment variables in a shell.  As soon as you exit that
shell, the variables greated in that shell are lost.
By the way, in DOS versions this is written to the DOS environment,
whereas in the Windows versions this is written to the ACAD.INI or
ACLT.INI files.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

On 29 Nov 1996 17:07:35 GMT, "doug"  wrote:
>in R12: is it possible to "de-select" one object of many that one may have
>already selected?  Only way I know is to "contrl C" and start over.
There are a couple of ways.  You could enter R when asked to select
objects, and you are in Remove mode.  Any object you pick will be
removed from the selection set if it was part of it.  To add again,
you can enter A to go back into Add mode.
If you want to remove the last objects you picked, be they individual,
or window etc, enter U when asked to select objects.
If you don't want to go into remove mode and then back into add mode,
hold down a shift key and select the objects you want to remove.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:49:30 -0800, "J. F. Lockett"
 wrote:
>Plotting with hidden lines question:
>
>When using R13c3 and plotting to the system printer (Epson stylus pro 
>xl), when I select hide lines, any ploylines and traces plots as outlines 
>rather than the filled in lines.  The 'fill' sysvar is set 'on'.
>
>How do I plot my 3D object on the drawing and hide the lines while also 
>filling in the polylines/traces which we use in our boardes and 
>annotations?
This is something that happens when you select the hide option in the
plot dialog.  I don't know of a workaround.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:33:59 GMT, dperret@icor.fr (Daniel PERRET)
wrote:
>I am working with AutoCAD R13c4a on W95 and i'd like to know how to
>change the color background of the edit box (for MTEXT and DIMENSION).
>It is usually white and not easy to see some colors.
>If you can help me, answer on e-mail: dperret@icor.fr
One option would be to nominate an alternate editor for MTEXT objects.
If you set MTEXTED as . (period), then the Windows Notepad program
will be used.
The built in editor is very misleading.  The way words wrap there does
not match the way it will appear in the drawing.  An alternative
editor will be no different, however it will at least be a little
easier to read.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

Our California based surfboard corporation is interested in locating
computerized surfboard blank shaping machienry for sale, and help from
someone who writes/sells the scaning and shaping program.  So far, all
I've found is Gower (software),in the UK, and the blank milling services
of KKL in Carlsbad, CA and Jensen Surfboards in Huntg. Bch., CA
ok

> >   Perhaps this could be done by having a new setting in the layer
> > controls. In addition to "Freeze" and "Off", perhaps a layer could be
> > "Ghosted". Then another setting determines what color (and weight) to
> > disply and plot those layers at.
> >
SoftDesk already provides such a capability with its Plan settings.
Basically, a Plan is a set of layer attributes (color, linetype, on/off,
etc.) for each layer in a drawing. A typical use: a layer containing
soffits and other overhead entities in an architectural drawing could be
viewed and plotted with red hidden lines in a floor plan, green
continuous
lines in a ceiling plan, and light grey continuous lines for a
rendering.
Plans are saved by name (FLOOR, CEILING, RENDER, etc.) and are easy to
create, modify, copy, etc.
Using Plans takes some time to set up (it *really* helps to standardize
your layer names across drawing projects), but saves HUGELY trying to 
remember what changes you have to make to get the plot you need, and 
then how to get back to the way things started out.
-- 
-Bill Gilliss  gilliss@iglou.com  72320.3272@compuserve.com

Thought I'd pass this along:
The other day I hit the power button instead of the CD-eject
button, and watched the past 45 minutes' work wink out. Not
a big deal really, though it could have been if SAVETIME wasn't
set to 10 or so. The problem came when I reopened the drawing
to find that all my SoftDesk toolbars had Smiley faces instead
of the appropriate icons.
No amount of turning them (or the AutoCAD toolbars) off and on
fixed things. What finally worked was to edit the MNU file of 
the menu file I was using (just added a space in a comment line)
which changed its date, which forced a recompile, which cured
the toolbars.
Don't know *why* exactly, but there you have it.
-- 
-Bill Gilliss  gilliss@iglou.com  72320.3272@compuserve.com

samuele@bbs.cruzio.com wrote:
> 
>... However I don't have the
> formulas to convert an ellipse to a series of arcs.  I thought about
> setting PELLIPSE to 1 and redrawing the ellipse as a polyline, but the
> manual says this won't be supported in r14 so why bother.  Using DXFIX is not
> an option.
Samuel - Try any standard *manual* drafting manual. There are usually 
two or three procedures given for approximating ellipses with arcs.
Bear in mind that they will only be approximations, and won't return
the same perimeter and area figures as an ellipse with the same nominal
axis endpoints.
-- 
-Bill Gilliss  gilliss@iglou.com  72320.3272@compuserve.com

> (Installed on a ZEOS Pentium 90 w/16 MB DRAM).  I find that everything runs MUCH
> slower than R12 under DOS and the WINDOWS Stle interface is clumsy and not very
> productive. Is there something wrong here or is this truly indicative of R13
> performance?
There is a big drop in performance when running R13 under WFW.  I have
noticed it runs slower under WFW than it does under Windows 3.1
You might want to think about upgrading to Windows 95 or NT.  Running
under 95 will give you "comparible" performance to what you saw in R12.
> R12 came with a template for my 12 x 12 Digitizer which is my primary
> interface for Autocad 12. Is there a template file somewhere in Autocad 13 that
> is somewhat compatible with the R12 version?
There should be one in the \Sample directory, it is called tablet.dwg

Is Autodesk still making autoCAD for Macs and PowerMacs?  If so, is it
any good?  I need AutoCAD, but I don't want to spend more money on a PC
if I acn avoid it.

I have an HP XL300, and have encountered this before, and have been able to
fix it by setting plot size to MAX.  Or, you could make a USER size of
16.5" X 10.5", and accomplish the same thing, it's just more tedious.  It
won't allow you to use the full 11 X 17 no matter what you do, so don't
waste your time.
Maybe this was helpful
David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
delliottg@olywa.net
MIRO GAWINSKI  wrote in article
<57phre$ol3@goofy.BrandonU.CA>...
> I'm having a problem printing from R12 to my HP XL300. The problem
occures when I try printing  in 11x17 format. the autocad full preview
shows exactly what I need, however the printer only prints 8 1/2" x17. This
cuts out part of the drawing.
> If anyone has a suggestion please let me know.
> 
> Thanks
> MIRO

In the mean time, I need 128M of memory to run R13 on Win95
just to get the same performance I had with R12/DOS for my 
typical 7-10M files (and right now I get only 32M with constant 
swapping on my HD).
It's been 2 years now.
On 30 Nov 1996 16:46:00 GMT,  - "Amar Hanspal" 
wrote in comp.cad.autocad:
>I did want to acknowledge your point about the fact that R13 uses up more
>memory than
>R12 does, so I'm not disagreeing with you here.   R13 was really a
>re-architecture of the
>guts of AutoCAD's database to provide a solid base for the future.  In many
>ways, R13 
>is like Windows NT 3.0 was - a fundamentally new system which took a couple
>of years to 
>settle in. 
Then just give it away as Beta, not sell it to us as big improvement.
And don't tell me that's sales people error, I don't buy it. Your ads
was not correct, sales campaine was too agressive and misleading.
I think Autodesk owes its customers a *BIG* apologee (if not to say
compensation). What Adesk've done is getting us pay for your research
two years before it was really completed. 
>R13 did demand more memory and processor speed than the system that most
>customers
>had when it first came out in 1994.  (So did NT, when it first came out in
>1992).  Since then, 
>we've been tuning the product and the hardware has been catching up.
>Some of our partners, Softdesk for example, have started leveraging the new
>database, and
>find that they can store their objects in a much more compact form than the
>R12 architecture
>would have allowed.  Both file sizes and memory footprints are *smaller*
>for their objects with
>custom objects.  We've been leveraging R13 in the Autodesk Mechanical
>Desktop, etc.
>So, sure in the short term, we'll take some heat for increased memory
>requirements, but in
>the long term, we will demonstrate why re-architecting AutoCAD in R13 was a
>good idea. 
Let's hope for this to become true.
**These opinions are just my own and nobody else's***
--
Vladimir Nesterovsky    ADS/LISP/C/C++ etc

Robert B. Price wrote:
> 
> How do I modify Rel12/win95 so that a listing of a directory of my
> blocks is listed alphabetically?  Thanx
> --
> Robert B. Price - gearknox@capital.net
> Automation*Gears*Machinery
Hi Robert,
In AutoCAD, make sure the value for MAXSORT exceeds the number of blocks 
displayed.
In OS Shell, use "DIR *.DWG /ON"  where O=Order and N=Name, sort by name
There is a DOS SET for this, I think it is "SET DIRCMD=/ON" but I am not sure 
and OS documentation in w95 is
DIR [drive:][path][filename] [/P] [/W] [/A[[:]attributes]]
  [/O[[:]sortorder]] [/S] [/B] [/L] [/V]
  [drive:][path][filename]
              Specifies drive, directory, and/or files to list.
              (Could be enhanced file specification or multiple filespecs.)
  /P          Pauses after each screenful of information.
  /W          Uses wide list format.
  /A          Displays files with specified attributes.
  attributes   D  Directories                R  Read-only files
               H  Hidden files               A  Files ready for archiving
               S  System files               -  Prefix meaning not
  /O          List by files in sorted order.
  sortorder    N  By name (alphabetic)       S  By size (smallest first)
               E  By extension (alphabetic)  D  By date & time (earliest first)
               G  Group directories first    -  Prefix to reverse order
               A  By Last Access Date (earliest first)
  /S          Displays files in specified directory and all subdirectories.
  /B          Uses bare format (no heading information or summary).
  /L          Uses lowercase.
  /V          Verbose mode.
Switches may be preset in the DIRCMD environment variable.  Override
preset switches by prefixing any switch with - (hyphen)--for example, /-W.
Cheers, 
Lu
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Den Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:12:15 -0600, Scorpio 
Udtrykte :
 Sig
This was not a binaer-group
>Hi,
>   My name is Tami and I have been going to college in Texas for two
>years now, but I've run into some trouble. I don't have enough money to
>finish my school. My parents dis-owned me when I posed for some
>provacative pictures in a magazine that somehow got back to them. I work
>as a waitress but I can't afford my rent, insurance and tuition for next
>year. I am a new to the newsgroups. I hope you can help me.
>
>            I'm a smart business woman but I'm desperate.
>                          PLEASE HELP ME!
>
>For $10 or more I'll send you a sexy picture and a special letter
>telling all about me.
>
>    Send self addressed envelope and cash to:  Scorpio
>                                             PO Box# 118785
>                                        Carrollton, Tx.75011-8785
>
>I have attached some pictures below for you to think about.
>
>Thank you, Tami (Scorpio)
                      Keld Rosenkrantz
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