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Subject: Re: Autocad MAP literature -- From: Darrell Beck
Subject: Vital Lisp tricks and utils updated -- From: (Reini Urban)
Subject: NEED LISP -- From: hunter
Subject: US-IN - Indianapolis - CAD Detailer -- From: manpower@manpowertechnical.com (Manpower Technical, Indiana)
Subject: US-IN - Indianapolis - Design Engineer -- From: manpower@manpowertechnical.com (Manpower Technical, Indiana)
Subject: US-IN-South Bend - AutoCAD Designer -- From: manpower@manpowertechnical.com (Manpower Technical, Indiana)
Subject: Chicago - CADD Development Manager wanted -- From: dknotter@lbka.com
Subject: Re: Limitation for LISP-Code under Windows 95/NT? -- From: Jay Garnett
Subject: nt or novell network? -- From: lbna075@ix.netcom.com(lbna075
Subject: Re: Problems with Xref -- From: JAS - Global Village
Subject: cad-plan schützen -- From: "gregor kurth"
Subject: AutoCAD LT resolution -- From: "Rick W. Spork"
Subject: Kurta tablet with acadr13 c4 with windows 95 -- From: Chip
Subject: ACAD R 13 : DXF format problems -- From: "Luc MERTES"
Subject: Re: Looking For Good 3D Program For AutoCAD -- From: steveg@popeye.analogy.com (Steven Greenberg)
Subject: Dcl Problem -- From: Slob@Slob.Slob.Slob.com (Slob)
Subject: Inserting Blocks; can the scale/rotation be fixed? -- From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Subject: Re: AutoCAD R14 -- From: g.cerven@ix.netcom.com(Gregory P. Cerven )
Subject: Blocks; can you explode attributes and KEEP the info? -- From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Subject: Re: Acad13c4 andNT4 -- From: apt@cix.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Subject: Re: Dcl Problem -- From: Lu
Subject: LET US HELP YOU GET THE BID! -- From: mjs@imt.net
Subject: ACAD LT for NT -- From: dmitzel@computerland.net
Subject: excel into acadr13 -- From: arquetura
Subject: Rounding Off of Displayed Attributes -- From: akirk@vcn.bc.ca (Andrew Kirk)
Subject: Re: Network trouble and Autocad -- From: apt@cix.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Subject: Re: running auto lisp -- From: "Daniel S. Shaffer"
Subject: Re: AutoCAD LT resolution -- From: Dan Morrison
Subject: Files are sometimes read only problem -- From: Loeb
Subject: We sell Computers Designed for CAD!!! -- From: ccatl@atl.mindspring.com (Computer Concepts -Atlanta)
Subject: ADS sample code -- From: cds59@mail.idt.net (Shawn L. Bradley)
Subject: Re: Autolisp prob. -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: lisp/linetype????? -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: v14 Wish list - ghosting layers & off vs freeze -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: R13 3D Solids -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ? -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: HELP WITH MITER CUT IN ACAD R13 -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: Text on curved surface-r13 -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: WHERE are my blocks going?!?! -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: HELP!! WMF files in AutoCAD -- From: interacsol@aol.com

Articles

Subject: Re: Autocad MAP literature
From: Darrell Beck
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 08:45:02 -0800
Cheryl K. Carroll wrote:
> 
> I just took a class on Autocad MAP and the course used some very awful manuals.  I'm
> looking for any manuals that would have examples other than the Autodesk's examples.
> Anything other than Autodesk out there?
> 
> I also just read that the ODBC driver that is to be used for Microsoft Access will not
> handle editing of the database.  Is this true?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> CKCScary if it is true about the ODBC drivers.
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Subject: Vital Lisp tricks and utils updated
From: (Reini Urban)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 19:25:42 GMT
Hi fellow Vital Lisp users!
I updated my Vill page at http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/bi4/#vill
and the utils at ftp://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/pub/autocad/ViLL
Better help support:
  I created some .CNT files to be put into the HELP dir. to allow
    searching through all 3 files (vlx- funcs + Autolisp funcs)
  How to custimize and improve the al.hlp ([MAP] section)
  Some scripts I use to create Winhelp for all your Lisps fully
   automatic (for cash)
Benchmarks 
  Comparing plain AutoLISP, ADS, acomp and Vill
  (no ARX and Lisp2C, and only the slow ADS-Lisp interface)
mapcar fix 
  improves the mapcar speed 40%
I'm currently testing ViLL in full Common Lisp mode (not only AutoLISP)
and its really great! (in fact its a CL dialect with CLOS called LPP)
Hope my programs will get more intelligent with full lisp. :)
And reverse engineering is much more fun with an interpretative
approach.
Happy Villing!
---
Reini Urban, TU Graz, Architecture & X-RAY
Attention! From: header is garbled on purpose!
 http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/
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Subject: NEED LISP
From: hunter
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 13:46:57 -0600
>I NEED TO OBTAIN A BLOCK LETTER TEXT STYLE (OR A LISP ROUTINE THAT WILL 
>CREATE A TEXT STYLE) THAT EXPLODED HATCH CAN BE TRIMMED OUT OF THE
>ACTUAL LETTERS. (I'M DRAWING A ALUMINUM PANEL THAT HAS A BLACK
>BACKGROUND WITH WHITE LETTERS PAINTED ON TOP OF THE BLACK.) ANYONE
>HAVE ANY IDEAS?? THANKS IN ADVANCE!! PLEASE REPLY BY NEWSGROUP-E-MAIL
>DOWN.
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Subject: US-IN - Indianapolis - CAD Detailer
From: manpower@manpowertechnical.com (Manpower Technical, Indiana)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 19:28:26 GMT
We are currently in need of:
Position: CAD Detailer
Job # 1066
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Requirements: Knowledge of metal types and machining practices, knowledge of vendors and their products, knowledge of ANSI standards. Through knowledge
of vibratory and centrifugal systems, pneumatics, hydraulics. Knowledge of AutoCAD systems, mechanical engineering and design.  Associates degree in Mechanical Engineering plus experience in assembly design engineering.
RESPONSIBILITIES:Perform custom design and detail of automated assembly systems.
Receive engineering folders from Quoting Dept.
Design and concept components such as slide escapements, pick and place devices, isolation mechanisms from quote.
Use AutoCAD and plotters for blueprint generation.
Determine parts to be custom built and parts to be purchased.
Send prints to customer for approval after supervisor review.
Produce detailed prints of parts for Machine Shop.
Length of Assignment: indefinite, potential hire
Salary:$16/hr
Manpower Technical, located in Indianapolis, IN, is a leading supplier of contract engineers, programmers, machine technicians, CAD draftsmen, PC technicians, technical writers, QC inspectors and many more technical professionals throughout Indiana's leading corporations.  To find out more about our many opportunities, visit our web site at http:/www.manpowertechnical.com.
To submit your resume (please refer to job #),  fax to 1-800-366-0675 (locally (317) 269-0515), or mail to:
Manpower Technical
205 E. New York St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: 1-800-366-0557 or (317) 262-2020
Fax:	1-800-366-0675 or (317) 269-0515
E-mail: 	manpower@manpowertechnical.com
http://www.manpowertechnical.com
Your resume will never be sent to any of our customers without your prior approval by phone.
EOE
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Subject: US-IN - Indianapolis - Design Engineer
From: manpower@manpowertechnical.com (Manpower Technical, Indiana)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 19:29:23 GMT
We are currently in need of:
Position: Design Engineer
Job # 1067
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Requirements: Knowledge of metal types and machining practices, knowledge of vendors and their products, knowledge of ANSI standards. Through knowledge
of vibratory and centrifugal systems, pneumatics, hydraulics. Knowledge of AutoCAD systems, mechanical engineering and design.  Associates degree in Mechanical Engineering plus experience in assembly design engineering.
RESPONSIBILITIES:Perform custom design and detail of automated assembly systems.
Receive engineering folders from Quoting Dept.
Design and concept components such as slide escapements, pick and place devices, isolation mechanisms from quote.
Use AutoCAD and plotters for blueprint generation.
Determine parts to be custom built and parts to be purchased.
Send prints to customer for approval after supervisor review.
Produce detailed prints of parts for Machine Shop.
Length of Assignment: through Jan '98
Salary:$22-25/hr
Manpower Technical, located in Indianapolis, IN, is a leading supplier of contract engineers, programmers, machine technicians, CAD draftsmen, PC technicians, technical writers, QC inspectors and many more technical professionals throughout Indiana's leading corporations.  To find out more about our many opportunities, visit our web site at http:/www.manpowertechnical.com.
To submit your resume (please refer to job #),  fax to 1-800-366-0675 (locally (317) 269-0515), or mail to:
Manpower Technical
205 E. New York St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: 1-800-366-0557 or (317) 262-2020
Fax:	1-800-366-0675 or (317) 269-0515
E-mail: 	manpower@manpowertechnical.com
http://www.manpowertechnical.com
Your resume will never be sent to any of our customers without your prior approval by phone.
EOE
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Subject: US-IN-South Bend - AutoCAD Designer
From: manpower@manpowertechnical.com (Manpower Technical, Indiana)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 19:30:29 GMT
We are currently in need of:
Position: AutoCAD Designer
Job # 1020
Location: South Bend, IN
Requirements: Technical Degree with 3-4 years experience with design, AutoCAD 12-13, or LT.
RESPONSIBILITIES: Machine tool design
Length of Assignment: indefinite
Salary:open
Manpower Technical, located in Indianapolis, IN, is a leading supplier of contract engineers, programmers, machine technicians, CAD draftsmen, PC technicians, technical writers, QC inspectors and many more technical professionals throughout Indiana's leading corporations.  To find out more about our many opportunities, visit our web site at http:/www.manpowertechnical.com.
To submit your resume (please refer to job #),  fax to 1-800-366-0675 (locally (317) 269-0515), or mail to:
Manpower Technical
205 E. New York St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: 1-800-366-0557 or (317) 262-2020
Fax:	1-800-366-0675 or (317) 269-0515
E-mail: 	manpower@manpowertechnical.com
http://www.manpowertechnical.com
Your resume will never be sent to any of our customers without your prior approval by phone.
EOE
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Subject: Chicago - CADD Development Manager wanted
From: dknotter@lbka.com
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 13:11:15 -0600
CADD Development Manager wanted at Chicago firm.
We are a leading loop-based architecture and engineering firm 
looking to add a key member to our team. This is an excellent 
opportunity for a highly motivated individual with Computer 
Aided Drafting and Design experience. Reporting to our MIS 
supervisor, you will provide custom programming and applications 
development for our CADD systems.
Extensive Autocad Release 12 experience required. Architecture and/or
Engineering experience a big plus. Autocad Rel. Novell Netware, and
Windows experience also helpful.
We offer competitive compensation.
Please e-mail resume to:  dknotter@lbka.com
-or-
please send resume to:
MIS Supervisor
P.O. BOX 617516
Chicago, IL
60661-7516
An equal opportunity employer m/f/d/v
dknotter@lbka.com
Thanks
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Subject: Re: Limitation for LISP-Code under Windows 95/NT?
From: Jay Garnett
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 14:27:49 -0600
Martin Schluetz wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> we have to migrate from AutoCAD for UNIX to Windows 95/NT.
> 
> Therefor I'd like to know if there is a limitation of memory for
> LISP-sources if I use AutoCAD for Windows 95/NT.
> 
> Martin
> 
>    Dipl.-Math. M.Schluetz   Universitaetsrechenzentrum   Muenster
>                             Einsteinstr. 60,     D-48149 Muenster
>    Dahlweg 8,48153 Muenster Tel:(0251/83-)2693 FAX:(0251/83-)2678
>    Tel:0251/799403          e-mail  :  M.Schluetz@uni-muenster.de
Nope.
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HOMEPAGE http://www.enteract.com/~jgarnett/lispfactory.htm
Resume http://www.enteract.com/~jgarnett/resume.htm
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Subject: nt or novell network?
From: lbna075@ix.netcom.com(lbna075
Date: 9 Dec 1996 20:26:10 GMT
     Lerch Bates is a world wide leader in vertical transportation,
with many offices throughout the united states.  The main office is
located in Denver, Colorado, and employs about 30 people. We are
considering networking all of these workstation and this is where we
are left asking the question Windows NT or Novel?  
     What is the better network software?  Which will allow us the
easiest internet presence, ie ftp, e-mail, and home page? Which will
not require a full time network administrator?  Which one should we
buy?  
     Now to add more confusion to a complicated situation, about one
third of us are already on a novel network and another third on a unix
system.  We do not however want to continue with novel (the unix will
be run off of either network os) if NT is better, we are will to scrap
it and start over.  We just want the best network environment possible.
thanks
troy
lbna075@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: Problems with Xref
From: JAS - Global Village
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 12:43:52 -0800
G Rajesh wrote:
> 
> "DAGESH"  wrote:
> 
> >I have  file 1.dwg that contain file 2.dwg as XREF.
> >When I'm changing colors in 2.dwg and after than I'm opening 1.dwg ,
> >I don't see changes in 1.dwg
> >Please, help me with this problem.
> >Thanks, Joseph
> >
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> Looks odd. Did you use the XREF command in 1.dwg and used the bind option
> in it.In that case you will not get the result.
> If you have opened both the sessions at the same time and you have not used
> the bind option , then use the Reload option and check out whether it
> works fine.
> 
> If still you face the problem then please send me a copy of the 1.dwg and 2.dwg
> files to me at the earliest.
> 
> :-)
> 
> G.Rajesh
> //Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
As you didn't mention if it was R12 or R13; I will assume the command 
hasn't changed.  in 1.dwg; type "visretain".  It is set to keep the 
colors as they are set in the drawing. change the setting (it's either 0 
or 1) and the colors will show changes in your 2.dwg.
-- 
JAS
mailto:jas@shocking.com
http://www.shocking.com/~jas
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Subject: cad-plan schützen
From: "gregor kurth"
Date: 9 Dec 1996 20:55:59 GMT
hi
wie kann ich einen cad-plan (autodesk 13c) den ich per modem versende
schützen.
(das heisst nur die ursprungsdaten (layer)).der kunde (ingenieur) kann also
den plan nicht ändern. seine weiterarbeit berrührt meine daten nicht.
er darf z.b. keine mauern oder anderes schieben können.
by
greg 
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Subject: AutoCAD LT resolution
From: "Rick W. Spork"
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 12:55:14 -0800
Can the resolution be increased in AutoCAD Lt?
The [VIEWRES] command is used regular AutoCAD but does not work in Lt.
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Subject: Kurta tablet with acadr13 c4 with windows 95
From: Chip
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:16:20 -0500
I have trouble configing my Is/One Kurta tablet with acadr13 c4 release
with windows 95.  I can't get my tablet working it won't respond.
Is there updated drivers for and old Is/one kurta tablet for windows 95.
I use to use the tablet for release 12 on windows 3.1 but nothing works
on windows 95 with autocad 13
need help?
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Subject: ACAD R 13 : DXF format problems
From: "Luc MERTES"
Date: 9 Dec 1996 21:18:14 GMT
I have tried to import in Corel Draw 5.0 a autocad drawing in DXF format
generated win AutoCAD R13 (Win 95).  That doesn't work !  Same story with
Microsoft Word 6.0.  The error message says that some part of the code is
not comprehensible ...
Note : all of this work fine with acad R12 ...
Does anybody know this problem ... and has a solution ? 
Many thanks !
Luc
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Subject: Re: Looking For Good 3D Program For AutoCAD
From: steveg@popeye.analogy.com (Steven Greenberg)
Date: 09 Dec 1996 13:00:37 -0800
Please eliminate comp.cad.cadence from these discussions.
comp.cad.cadence is for discussion of products related to the Electronic
Design Automation tools of Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Thanks,
/Steve
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Analogy, Inc.                         Phone: (503)520-2717
9205 SW Gemini Drive                  Fax:   (503)643-3361
Beaverton, Oregon 97008               Web:   http://www.analogy.com
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Subject: Dcl Problem
From: Slob@Slob.Slob.Slob.com (Slob)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:31:33 GMT
I am attempting to make a single group of radio
buttons in DCL, but have them in two columns.
I need to have two columns because of the number
of choices, but they must be dependent upon each
other.
I HATE DCL!!
Anyway, if anyone knows of a Visual Basic (drag-
and-drop) style of DCL programming, please post
a location.  I have DCG and Protobox, better, but still
a little awkward.
Thank you -
Michael S Harris
mharris@suntan.eng.usf.edu
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Subject: Inserting Blocks; can the scale/rotation be fixed?
From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:28:47 GMT
Hi all,
I am inserting blocks that never need to be scaled or rotated; is
there a way to get rid of the XY prompt and rotate angle prompt?
I tried the "Specify parameters on screen". but if I check this box, I
cant choose where to place the block, it always sticks it at 0,0.
Am using Autocad LT 95 so please no LISP suggestions. :-)
Any info helpful,
Tony
********************************
"Never laugh at live dragons..."
J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
*********************************
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD R14
From: g.cerven@ix.netcom.com(Gregory P. Cerven )
Date: 9 Dec 1996 21:40:01 GMT
In this contest between MicroStation and AutoCAD, neither one would
win, because the users have already determined the winner in their
minds.  Depending on your needs, each one has its own strengths and
weaknesses.  Yes, it is annoying in MicroStation to have a finite
design plane, but it does make extremely large files possible and
tolerable.  Yes, it is nice to have extremely fine point control, but
take it to the extremes and find out how well it works (try a number
smaller than 10 to the -32 power).  I have found that it is best to
understand the tools available to me, and to choose the best one for
the application.  I wouldn't choose a hammer to put screws in, even
though it may work.
In <19961207041300.XAA06576@ladder01.news.aol.com> culprb@aol.com
writes: 
>
>>I hate to have given up things like being able to set the number
>>of snap points in an object (try moving an object to a point
>>one third of the way down a line in ACAD!).
>
>I usually know where the line is going and don't need 1/3 the length,
BUT
>the
>CAL command suffices for those times when I need some fractional
portion
>of an element.
>
>> uStn's mouse button setup is much, MUCH better than ACAD's. 
>
>Wait a minute, the button setup for ACAD is FULLY customizable, if 
>you don't like it, change it.
>
>>I miss having multiple sidebar (screen) menus, too.
>
>Why should you miss them in ACAD, they are available on my version.
>
>>As a simple test, add a vertex to a line in uStn, then try it in
>>ACAD. Tell me which one *you* prefer. 
>	  
>That's a pretty simple operation in both.
>
>>> But preferences aside, a CAD package that cannot draw accurate
angles
>is >>lame. Connect-the-dots belongs in grade school.
>
>>Microstation *can* draw angles as accurately as you need, even if the
>>IGDS file format does not allow the sort of absolute accuracy that 
>>DWG does. Just set PU correctly.
>
>Client settings have been dictated, as have the PU setting (aptly
named).
>Several hundred other drawings and cells have been created over the
last
>few years with a MU_SU_PU of  1_12_1000.  Now for your simple test, 
>with these settings PLACE a line with ACTIVE ANGLE SET TO 35deg 
>from XY=0,0 a length of 3'-3 3/8".  PLACE another with AA=0. 
>Dimension the angle using DIM_BETW_LINES tool with deg-min-sec.
>
>IT AIN'T ACCURATE.
>
>>IGDS obviously isn't going to be capable of
>>the level of absolute accuracy that DWG demonstrates, but how many 
>>drawings are really going to tax the precision of either format?
>
>The above simple test is beyond Msta's capabilities.
>
>>The advantage of the IGDS format is speed. Even with a good FPU,
>>floating point calculations are significantly slower than integer
math.
>
>What good is a little savings on redraw speeds when MOST angle
>dimensions have to be manually tweaked.
>
>>Think about that when you're waiting for a 3MB file to regen.
>
>With a little education about VIEWS and ACAD's virtual screen size,
>regens can be nearly eliminated.  BTW, regen time on a 5.4MB file
>on my paper-weight cludge was about 45 sec.
>
>Randy
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Subject: Blocks; can you explode attributes and KEEP the info?
From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:28:48 GMT
Is there any way to explode a block inserted with attributes and keep
the information, instead of the tags showing up?
This was a shocking discovery for me; I inserted some blocks with
numerical attributes, and wanted to use them for trimming purposes.
I was informed that the blocks are "not a valid edge", so I exploded
it;  to my surprise, all of the attribute information was replaced
with the tags of the attributes.
Is there anyway around this? To the same end, sometimes I need to
extend lines within these blocks, but I cannot alter the blocks
without exploding them, so its really a vicious circle.
Autocad LT 95 so LISP will not help me at all.
Any info helpful,
********************************
"Never laugh at live dragons..."
J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
*********************************
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Subject: Re: Acad13c4 andNT4
From: apt@cix.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 21:41:19 GMT
In article <32A708D6.5C9B@autodesk.com>, cara.denko@autodesk.com (Cara 
Denko) wrote:
> 
> Calvin, R13c4a is officially supported under Windows NT 4.0 - if you
> haven't already, please update to c4a - you can download the incremental
> patch from autodesk:
> 
> http://www.autodesk.com/support/updates/updates.htm
> or 
> ftp.autodesk.com/pub/autocad/patches/r13c4a/
> 
> Read the mapc4a.txt for instructions on which files to download, and how
> to install the update.
> 
> -Cara, Autodesk
Ah, that's interesting: is the c4a patch specifically *required* in order 
to run under NT4? I'm running it without the patch (straight c4) and it 
seems OK, but I've hardly stressed it as yet. the c4a didn't seem to fix a 
great deal as far as I could see.
Paul Taylor
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Subject: Re: Dcl Problem
From: Lu
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 05:11:52 -0800
Slob wrote:
> 
> I am attempting to make a single group of radio
> buttons in DCL, but have them in two columns.
> I need to have two columns because of the number
> of choices, but they must be dependent upon each
> other.
> 
> I HATE DCL!!
> 
> Anyway, if anyone knows of a Visual Basic (drag-
> and-drop) style of DCL programming, please post
> a location.  I have DCG and Protobox, better, but still
> a little awkward.
> 
> Thank you -
> 
> Michael S Harris
> mharris@suntan.eng.usf.edu
Hi Michael,
DCL is not bad, actually, all it does is put the graphics on the screen. 
 Since you have not posted any code, I have to make a lot of assumptions 
which usually get's me in trouble.
If yoy are imbedding lisp code in the dcl button code, try using a 
function call insted;
Imbeded code; (that's what I call it)
(ACTION_TILE "radio_ok" (PROGN(SETQ rad_ok(ATOI $value))(IF (= ...
Function call;
(ACTION_TILE "radio_ok" "(DoRadioOk)")
then ;
(DEFUN DoRadioOk()
    (SETQ rad_ok(ATOI(GET_TILE "radio_ok")))
    (IF (AND(= rad_ok 1)(= rad_other_row 1))
	(PROGN
	    (ALERT "Option not allowed.")
            (SET_TILE "radio_ok" "0")
        )
     ) 
    ...
    ...
)
This makes it easier to write and debug, for me anyhow.
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: LET US HELP YOU GET THE BID!
From: mjs@imt.net
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 96 22:08:46 GMT
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Subject: ACAD LT for NT
From: dmitzel@computerland.net
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:10:45 -0800
AutoCAD LT users:
According to my dealer, Autodesk does not make a version of AutoCAD Lt 
for Windows NT.  Is this true?  If anyone has a version, please let me 
know.  Or if you have configured your Win95 version to run successfully 
under NT.
I need to buy ACAD LT soon, but want NT platform.
TIA
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Subject: excel into acadr13
From: arquetura
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:02:49 -0700
How do you import an Excel, MS Word, WordPerfect, etc. document into
ACADR13? My 1st thought is to open the document window, copy to
clipboard, open ACAD13 and paste in appropriate drawing. Does this sound
right?
-- 
Freedom is what you do with what has been done to you.
	Jean Paul Sartre
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Subject: Rounding Off of Displayed Attributes
From: akirk@vcn.bc.ca (Andrew Kirk)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 22:14:04 GMT
I have blocks created by a civil engineering application with and
attribute specified to 3 decimal points.
Our drafting standards require this block attribute to be displayed to 2
decimal points.  I have tried redefining the block with UNITS set to 2
decimal points (using the lisp ATTREDEF supplied by Adesk), however the
attributes carried over remain displayed at 3 decimal points.
If anyone knows of a way to round off an attribute in a block, other then
editing them individually, I would be gratefull.
Andrew Kirk, Drafting Technician, City of Coquitlam, British Columbia,
Canada
Civil Engineering, Surveying, Mapping
akirk@mh.gov.coquitlam.bc.ca
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Subject: Re: Network trouble and Autocad
From: apt@cix.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 22:28:34 GMT
In article , 
chrisk@caad.ed.ac.uk (Chris Kant) wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> ....stuff deleted....
> The plotter has been allocated an ip number and hostname on the 
> ethernet.
> 
> The unix host machine can successfully send a .ps or .eps exported file
> but I can not get the config menu in Autocad to accept any setup from
> within Autocad - anybody any suggestions. The printcap file and virtual
> device driver appear to work ok via lp. Can this config within Autocad 
> be
> routed some way to lp or am I missing somehting obviuos in the config
> menu?
> 
> As for the PC on the network is there some way I can set up Autocad
> through WfW3.11 so that it can print to the plotter over the ethernet
> network? Or can it be done via DOS directly over the ethernet? - or 
> would
> it have to route through a unix host?
> 
> I have had no sucess from Autodesk who suggested I speak to our dealer 
> who
> have not responded so far with anything very useful.
> 
> I have had lot of very useful help from our specialist unix team to get 
> as
> far as we have.
> 
> Any assistance/help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Chris
There is no way in Autocad DOS to do any fancy printing direct to a 
network device. You need to plot to a file, and then use the AUTOSPOOL 
feature to automatically submit the file to a queue. This is detailed in 
the manuals, (there's also a tech doc on Autodesk's web site) but 
essentially, you set up a suitable batch file (dependant on your network) 
to send a file to the network print queue, this is called via an 
environment variable called ACADPLCMD in the DOS version. I've never used 
Autocad's Unix port, so I can't help on that one I'm afraid.
Paul Taylor, Computer Systems Manager
WSP Consulting Engineers, Tadworth, Surrey, UK
http://www.wspgroup.com
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Subject: Re: running auto lisp
From: "Daniel S. Shaffer"
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 17:31:16 -0800
To load a lisp routine:
I think I would load through APPLOAD, without having to remember the
path, just browse for the file if necessary...
If this is  a file I will need every ACAD session, I would then use the
load function in the ACAD.lsp file.
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD LT resolution
From: Dan Morrison
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:04:54 -0800
Rick W. Spork wrote:
> 
> Can the resolution be increased in AutoCAD Lt?
> The [VIEWRES] command is used regular AutoCAD but does not work in Lt.
No setting for viewres in AutoCAD LT. I believe the default value is
500.
Dan Morrison
Autodesk
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Subject: Files are sometimes read only problem
From: Loeb
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:54:08 -0800
I'm running R13C4A under NT4.0(SP1) and find that inconsistently (though
usually) when I try to save a file which I have opened, acad complains
that the file is read only.  If I create a new file, I can only save it
once before I get this error dialog.  This happens on both my local
drives and network drives.  Unfortunatly, it does not happen everytime
(but most of the time) which shouts out "BUG" to me.  Any clues would be
appreciated.
mailto:loeb@microtech.com
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Subject: We sell Computers Designed for CAD!!!
From: ccatl@atl.mindspring.com (Computer Concepts -Atlanta)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:59:23 GMT
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Subject: ADS sample code
From: cds59@mail.idt.net (Shawn L. Bradley)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 01:50:22 GMT
Does anyone know where I might find some sample ADS applications, particularly one that
utilize the Autocad SQL Extension?  I'm having a real tough time getting any direction
from the manuals that came w/Autocad.
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CADD Design Solutions
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Visit our web site for latest news, neat tips,
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for good men to do nothing. -Edmund Burke
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote
themselves money from the Public Treasury.  From that moment on,
the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most
benifits from the Public Treasury with a result that a democracy
always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by a
dictatorship." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Subject: Re: Autolisp prob.
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:30 GMT
Rick  wrote:
>Hi,
>   I'm not sure if this is an Autocad problem or a Quicksurf problem,
>but here it is. What I am trying to do is color Quicksurf drawn contours
>different colors depending on their elevation(Z) values.
Quicksurf does this for you directly if you select colors in the appropriate
dialog configuration. Or is this something else you're looking to accomplish?
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: lisp/linetype?????
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:31 GMT
isenhof@sni.com (Anthony Isenhoff) wrote:
>I am trying to write a lisp routine that will make all our standard
>layers and linetypes.
Lu's suggestion is one (good) way to go about it, another is to simply open your
default protoype drawing and load all the linetypes you need and create all the
layers you want. Then save it. When you open a new drawing you'll have all of
these available without having to run a separate routine.
Where Lu's suggestion is to advantage is when working on existing drawings that
may not have the appropriate items defined or in case someone has purged a
drawing before the line types or layers were used, in which case they would be
wiped.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: v14 Wish list - ghosting layers & off vs freeze
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:21 GMT
 (Reini Urban) wrote:
>Brian Schonecker  wrote:
>>However, layers in the OFF mode can still be selected when you type 
>>'ALL'.....
>Not only OFF layers, even FROZEN layers, simply ALL objects are
>selected. So there's no difference with ALL regarding OFF and FREEZE.
I don't think this is the case, Reini. Or else I'd be in the same boat with
Stef.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: R13 3D Solids
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:20 GMT
jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn) wrote:
>Paul Kphut nd Morten Warankov have posted solutions to turning the ecnrypted(?)
>ACIS data into regular dxf style group codes.
Make that Paul Kohut
Too many late nights!
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ?
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:27 GMT
The Silicon Surfer  wrote:
>Collage diploma? Is that made up from bits of other dips??
BS = Bull S**t
MS= More S**t
PHD = Pile it Higher and Deeper.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: HELP WITH MITER CUT IN ACAD R13
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:32 GMT
"sw"  wrote:
>Picture this two pipes crossing each other at an angle of 45 deg....now i
>am wondering if anyone can help me out as to the command i use to get these
>two pipes cutting each other at a perfect miter angle without any excess ,
>kinda like a 'V" joint connection....
Rather than trying to trim and join the two sections of pipe, try pediting the
two lines into a single polyline and use the extrude/path option to extrude one
of the circles along the complete "v" path. This only works if both pipes are
the same diameter, obviously. If they're different diameters we'll have to think
of something else.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: Text on curved surface-r13
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:23 GMT
TC wrote:
>Can AutoCad r13 get text to 'lay' on curved surface while conforming to
>the curved plane?
First, what I understand to be your question - is it possible to create letter
forms (text) on the surface of something like a cylinder. The short answer is
yes, the long answer is not by direct editing commands within AutoCAD. 
>  Is there a lisp routine for this?
Not to my knowlege.
What I would do to accomplish this is:
Assuming the surface on which you want the letters to appear is a cylinder, draw
a line from the center of the cylinder perpendicular to the cylinder surface.
Array that line with as many instances of line as you have letters. 
You'll need an outline font for the rest. 
Using DVIEW/POINTS select the first perpendicular line at the "select objects"
DVIEW prompt. Set the target point as the endpoint at the cylinder center and
the camera point as the "outter" end. Exit the DVIEW command, then use the
UCS/VIEW option to set the UCS parallel  to the screen. Then ZOOM/PREV to get
back to a point where you can see what you're doing.
With your outline font, place the first letter of the string of letters that go
on the cylinder at the outer end of this first line. If you use mid/center
justification it should lie perpendicular to the face of the cylinder.
Now using the same technique to set the UCS, move to the next line and place the
next letter, and so forth around the cylinder.
The letters will not be spaced or "kerned" correctly but you can adjust them
with the Rotate command usning the center of the cylinder as the center of
rotation.
Now if you have a way to explode the outline fonts, or if you have a third party
font package that uses letters in block forms, you can extrude them to create
solids. Going a few steps further, once you've gotten to that point, copy your
original cylinder in place, and subtract it from all the letters. Pick all the
letters as source objects and subtract the cylinder from them. If you want to
take it to it's sublime end, create another cylinder with a radius equal to the
original cylinder plus the thickness you want the letters to be. Copy this
cylinder and scale it up sufficiently to be well beyond the outer most extents
of the letters. Subtract the inner (smaller) cylinder from the larger, then
subtract the resulting hollow cylinder from each of the letters.
I didn't say it would be a pretty solution, but it's a solution! (grin)
Now - if you don't have a font package that will produce the block letters, send
me your drawing file and indicate clearly where the letters go and I'll do it
for you.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: WHERE are my blocks going?!?!
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:47:25 GMT
wmill@execpc.com (Tony T) wrote:
>Command: la
>LAYER ?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock: t
>Layer name(s) to Thaw: *
>?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock: on
>Layer name(s) to turn On: *
>?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock:
>If any layers where off or thawed, wouldnt this get them all back
>on/thawed? Also, I can still see the Dsize, which is on the identical
>layer. 
Indeed, the command sequences you show will thaw and turn on all layers. What
bothers me about this is that you seem to be inserting an A size title block in
a drawing that already has a D sized title block in it. (being able to see the D
size).
Start with a *new* drawing and don't specify a prototype. Totally clean and
unfettered. Now insert your A size title block sheet into this one. What do you
get when you do this?
Chris has a good point about checking the environment in which the A sized title
block was created. Open this one up and make sure it was laid out in model space
and the dimensions are correct. Try (in a *new* drawing) drawing a rectangle the
size of your A sheet (doing so in model space, tilemode=1). Open a new drawing
and go to tilemode=0, paperspace and xref or insert the latter. It should come
in at the same size you drew it if you use default scaling of 1 for both x and
y.
In the drawing where you can see the D title block but not the A, erase the D
border and do a zoom extents to see what you have.
Is there any possibility that the A size sheet and the D size sheet reference
the same block definition? 
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: HELP!! WMF files in AutoCAD
From: interacsol@aol.com
Date: 10 Dec 1996 00:43:47 GMT
Calling all AutoCAD wizards!
I do not own or use AutoCAD (yet) but I would like to know the following:
Can I paste .wmf files into AutoCAD from the clipboard as editable
objects?
I have a program that uses .wmf files for the graphics but it won't export
them.  I can copy them to the Windows clipboard, then paste them into
Corel Draw! to edit and manipulate.  Could I do this with AutoCAD?
Please respond via e-mail as I do not subscribe to this group.
Thanks kindly to all!
Gordon
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