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Subject: AutoCad LT setvar problem -- From: rgianola
Subject: Buttonfly chismas price-offer ( free demo as usual) -- From: peter@buttonfly.com (peter strzygowski)
Subject: Re: Publishing dwf files -- From: "Brian P. Mathews"
Subject: Reducing faces of Designer Geometry -- From: ezucker@pica.army.mil
Subject: test - please ignore -- From: "Byron G. Williams"
Subject: test - please ignore -- From: "Byron G. Williams"
Subject: ACLT setvar -- From: rgianola
Subject: Re: Dcl Problem -- From: vnestr@netvision.net.il (Vladimir Nesterovsky)
Subject: osnaps -- From: aileen
Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer -- From: Scott Drager
Subject: Re: ACAD R12 c4 For Sale -- From: "Frank H."
Subject: Re: How to post message -- From: Rusty Gesner
Subject: RE: Mechanical Desktop Assemblies and long filenames problem. -- From: Toni Ciuraneta
Subject: Autocad R13 on Mac 7200/P100 ? -- From: ahern@primenet.com (Paul Ahern)
Subject: Drawing Database -- From: "MT"
Subject: Re: "Delay" script command/P-200 -- From: "Lee Harding"
Subject: ACAD crashes every 5 minutes! -- From: jhata@sure.net (Junji Hata)
Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer -- From: culprb@aol.com (Culprb)
Subject: Re: Thanks for help - line weights -- From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer -- From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Subject: Re: Landscape design -- From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Subject: Help with Error Handler re-entered. Existing Now -- From: SSA
Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer -- From: Scott Drager
Subject: acad R12 BACKUP DISK cant get it to run and dont know why -- From: w00dst0ck1@aol.com (W00DST0CK1)
Subject: Anyone heard of CADDIE 4.3 ? (old program) -- From: bushroe@primenet.com (Fred Bushroe)
Subject: Re: osnaps -- From: "David E. Gonsalves"
Subject: Re: Autodesk buys Softdesk -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: Re: JetPro V100 lineweights ? -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: Autocad crashing system -- From: John Vago
Subject: Bhatch -- From: "Kent Barker"
Subject: Re: Scottish CAD users -- From: Bill Wollaston
Subject: Re: Scottish CAD users -- From: Bill Wollaston
Subject: Re: "Delay" script command/P-200 -- From: Scott Drager
Subject: Re: AutoCAD R14 --> LT4? -- From: "S. Yoder"
Subject: autocad R12 for sale -- From: JS
Subject: Re: Dimensioning -- From: John Lute
Subject: Re: ACAD R 13 : DXF format problems -- From: Mathew White
Subject: Re: Want to buy Autocad -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: How to post message -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: Scottish CAD users -- From: "David E. Gonsalves"

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Subject: AutoCad LT setvar problem
From: rgianola
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:05:31 -0500
My setvar angdir functions at 0(ccw) whether it is set to 0 or 1(cw).
All other setvars function fine, on Win 95. Any suggestions?
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Subject: Buttonfly chismas price-offer ( free demo as usual)
From: peter@buttonfly.com (peter strzygowski)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 07:03:16 GMT
Hi all there,
as christmas is coming soon- Buttonfly has a gift for you:
a speciall christmas-offer (.
If you donīt know, what Buttonfly is: just have a look at:
http://www.buttonfly.com
(For those who wonīt have a look:
Buttonfly is a grafical library- and command-manager for 
AutoCAD 12 WIN, autoCAD LT, LT for Win 95, and AuotCAD 13.
It helps you working by easy organizing your favoured commands and
symbols in your own toolboxes.
It speeds up your work.
... but if you wonīt have a look, you would never get faster...)
cu
peter strzygowski
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Subject: Re: Publishing dwf files
From: "Brian P. Mathews"
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:11:56 -0800
Chris Woodrow wrote:
> 
> I'm having problems publishing dwf files on the internet.  When I bring
> up a page with Netscape which has one of my dwf files on it, I get the
> "can't find file" icon.  I copied one of the demonstration pages to my
> directory, along with the dwf file.  If I do a "open file in browser",
> everything is fine.  When I access the file over the internet, I get the
> error.  Has anyone had any success in doing this?
> 
> Chris Woodrow
> cw8@ornl.gov
Most often this problem is caused when the HTTP server hasn't been
told of the WHIP/DWF "MIME" type.
Let me explain: when you open a file locally, Netscape must determine
what to do with the data inside.  For example, it needs to know if it
should treat the binary data as a GIF image, a JPEG, an HTML page,
a text file, etc. etc.   When opening files locally, Netscape makes
this determination by looking at the file extension (.dwf in this case).
The file extension is looked up in a table that tells Netscape to load
and launch the WHIP! plug-in code to view the data.  Great!
When you get a file from an URL off of an HTTP server, Netscape does
*not* use the file extension (since an URL doesn't always contain a
filename-- some URL's point to server scripts that generate DWF data
on the fly).  Instead, the HTTP Server sends your Netscape client a
"MIME" identifier along with the file data.  Inside the MIME header
is information on which plugin should be loaded to view the data.
So how does the HTTP Server figure out what MIME header to send?  It
does this by looking at the file extension of the file on the server
(the server looks at the file extension, looks it up in its table,
 and then forms a MIME header for sending to the client).
By default, HTTP servers only know a few file extensions/MIME's like
HTML, TXT, GIF, and JPG.  For plug-in file formats your Server
administrator needs to add new MIME types to the HTTP server.
I think the MIME type to teach your server for DWF files is:
drawing/x-dwf
To be sure, you'll have to read the readme.html file that gets
installed by the WHIP! installer.
Let me know if you can't find it and I'll check my own server's
settings.
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Subject: Reducing faces of Designer Geometry
From: ezucker@pica.army.mil
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:00:16 GMT
I'm solid modelling in Designer 2.0, exporting the geometry to 3D Studio Max
for rendering/animation...    I need to find the system variable in Designer
which will increase the number of faces, so the solid model's surface is 
smooth looking.  Right now, the parts that show up in 3DStudioMAX have very 
large faces, making the model pretty unrealistic looking.  A simple cylinder 
which should appear perfectly round, looks almost octangle-ish!!!
When I used the "Advanced Modeling Extension", the setting was called 
SOLWIREDENS or somesuch...
Jeez, if I only knew the correct "buzzword" of what I'm talking about, I'm sure 
the answer is right here in front of me. :-)   
Thanks in advance for your help.
              Ed Zuckerman
              US Army ARDEC
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Subject: test - please ignore
From: "Byron G. Williams"
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:48:36 -0500
this is a test
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Subject: test - please ignore
From: "Byron G. Williams"
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:53:00 -0500
this is a test
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Subject: ACLT setvar
From: rgianola
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:26:04 -0500
Whether it is set to 0(ccw) or 1(cw),my setvar angdir always functions
as if set to 0(ccw). All other setvars function normally on win95. Any
suggestions?
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Subject: Re: Dcl Problem
From: vnestr@netvision.net.il (Vladimir Nesterovsky)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:58:56 GMT
You may do that with check boxes while manually keeping
only one among them ON. Can't think of any other way possible.
On Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:31:33 GMT,  - Slob@Slob.Slob.Slob.com (Slob) wrote in
comp.cad.autocad:
>I am attempting to make a single group of radio
>buttons in DCL, but have them in two columns.
>I need to have two columns because of the number
>of choices, but they must be dependent upon each
>other.
>I HATE DCL!!
>Anyway, if anyone knows of a Visual Basic (drag-
>and-drop) style of DCL programming, please post
>a location.  I have DCG and Protobox, better, but still
>a little awkward.
>Thank you -
>Michael S Harris
>mharris@suntan.eng.usf.edu
--
Vladimir Nesterovsky    ADS/LISP/C/C++ etc

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Subject: osnaps
From: aileen
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:53:39 -0800
okay, i realize this was prolly discussed long ago, but i missed it and 
now we're stuck...
can anyone tell me how to set the middle button of the 3-button mouse so 
that it brings up the osnap menu (instead of having to hit the shift key 
with the right button) for Autocad R13?  explaining this in layman's 
terms (read: computer "not-so-literate"!) would be great...
thanks much!
aileen
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Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer
From: Scott Drager
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:35:48 -0600
Not one of the prettiest programs in the world but it works:
(defun C:alloff (/ howmany count teststr picked frzoroff oldexpert
loption)
(setvar "cmdecho" 0)
(setq oldexpert (getvar "EXPERT"))
(setvar "EXPERT" 0)
(setq loption "OFF")
(setq count 0)
(print "Select layers to leave on")
(setq picked (ssget))
(setq howmany (sslength picked))
(setq teststr(cdr (assoc 8 (entget (ssname picked count)))))
;(cdr (assoc 8 (entget (car (entsel "\nSelect Object/Layer to retain:
")))))
(setq frzoroff (strcase (getstring "\nDo you want the other layers Off
or Frozen? : ")))
(if (= frzoroff "F")(setq loption "FREEZE")(setq t nil))
(setvar "clayer" teststr)
(command "layer" loption "*" "" "")
(setq count 1)
(while (> howmany count)
     (setq teststr(cdr (assoc 8 (entget (ssname picked count)))))
     (if (= frzoroff "F")(setq loption "THAW")(setq loption "ON"))
     (command "layer" loption teststr "")
     (setq count (+ 1 count))
)
(setvar "EXPERT" oldexpert)
(princ)
)
Scott Drager
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Subject: Re: ACAD R12 c4 For Sale
From: "Frank H."
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:23:34 -0600
Please reply to Frank < xpc@icon.net >
> 
> mike Carpenter wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> > I have a copy of AutoCAD R12 c4 for Windows for sale. It is on original
> > disks. but, there are no books, or manuals, no licence or anything, only
> > the disks. The licence for various reasons that I do not want to go into
> > now, cannot be transfered. I am willing to sell the disks at a
> > reasonalbly low price do to all the missing items. If you are interested
> > please E-mail me back.
> > Thanks
> Thats almost like copying the disks and trying to sell them. Do you have
> the original initialization disk. If so you may be able to locate the
> license. Otherwise those disks are as good a copies.
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Subject: Re: How to post message
From: Rusty Gesner
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:12:13 -0800
See below:
M.J.Sulaiman wrote:
> 
> Dearest everybody
> 
> Can somebody help me to solve an autolisp program, i.e. to post a
> "message" after completing drawing all the lines
> 
> ( defun c:bp1 ()
>   (command "layer" "M" "BUILDING_L" "C" 3 "" "1" "continuos" "" "")
>   (command "line")
>   (princ)
> )
> 
> Thank You.
> 
> MJ
> 
Crude, without error or input control, but try this:
( defun c:bp1 (/ pt)
  (command "layer" "M" "BUILDING_L" "C" 3 "" "L" "continuous" "" "")
  (setq pt (getpoint "\nFirst point: "))
  (command "line" pt)
  (while (setq pt (getpoint pt "\nNext point: "))
     (command pt)
  )
  (command pt)
  (prompt "\That's all folks! ")
  (princ)
)
Note that I corrected the "1" to "L" and corrected the spelling of
"continuous" as well.
-- 
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Co-author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13
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will be considered unsolicited, and receipt thereof shall constitute
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Subject: RE: Mechanical Desktop Assemblies and long filenames problem.
From: Toni Ciuraneta
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:10:07 +0100
When making an assembly drawing within Mechanical Desktop with the
AMCOMPMAN command and choosing a file that has a name longer than 8
characters, a dialog box appears saying:
"The file you have chosen cannot be used as a block name"
"The new block name must be less than or equal to 8 characters"
"New Block Name? XXXXXXX
If I enter a new block name for that file the normal process resumes and
strange enough, the shorter (new) name doesn't appear on the Component
Manager Dialog Box, It is the long one that appears.
I've checked  my configuration of Autocad and the long filemanes option
is enabled. So I think that this should not happen.
I'm using release 13C4a and MD Designer 2.1 under Windows 95.
Can anyone help me please??
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Subject: Autocad R13 on Mac 7200/P100 ?
From: ahern@primenet.com (Paul Ahern)
Date: 13 Dec 1996 17:17:03 -0700
Question,
Will AutoCad R13c4 run efficiently if at all on a new Macintosh
7200/P100?  Or, is  AutoCad expected to run on the the new CHRP platform
currently under development (expected production mid-year 1997)?
Are there any hardware options (ie: graphics cards, VRAM, etc.) that are
necessary or recommended to make the Mac 7200/P100 perform.
TIA for your help.
Paul Ahern
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Subject: Drawing Database
From: "MT"
Date: 13 Dec 1996 20:10:15 GMT
Looking for recommendations for a database program that will allow us to
enter and search on a couple general fields as well as display a thumbnail
of the drawing.
TIA
Mike
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Subject: Re: "Delay" script command/P-200
From: "Lee Harding"
Date: 14 Dec 1996 01:28:26 GMT
You could try the 'pause' command. But, it waits for input so it won't
continue until you type something -- not exactly the same behavior.
-- 
Lee Harding
Autodesk, Inc.
MCAD
Robert S. Carroll  wrote in article
<58s51e$cst@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>...
: In the past several days I have been completing the transition from a
486DX2-66
: with 8megs of ram to a P-200 with 32 megs of ram. I have run into a
problem with
: my script files on the new computer. I am running AutoCad r12_c3 DOS and
now my
: "delay" command (to allow me to stop the script file) is nonexistant! (It
is
: still "there" but because of the processor speed, even a delay set to the
: maximum integer value doesn't even slow the script down!)
: 
: Does anyone know of a "fix" I can use to delay/stop the script and still
allow
: me to resume the script? (I know that I could break my script file down
into
: several smaller script files and call each one seperatly, but that seems
crude.)
: 
: Thanks in advance for any information you might give.
: 
: 
: Sincerely,
: Robert S. Carroll
: rscarr@ix.netcom.com
: 
: 
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Subject: ACAD crashes every 5 minutes!
From: jhata@sure.net (Junji Hata)
Date: 13 Dec 1996 19:58:04 GMT
Hi, I use AutoCAD R13 c3 for Win on my PC (Pentium90, 48MB, Win3.1 and 
Win95), but ACAD crashes (FATAL ERROR) every 5 minutes.  I can't stand it.
I also noticed that if I use ACAD for longer, it gets slower and slower and 
eventually crashes.  Why?  If I close ACAD and restart it, it is not slow.
But same thing happens again if I use it for while.
Also, sometimes I have to wait 15 to 30 minutes just to delete one entity,
or to save the drawing to hard disk, etc.  The drawing is simple 2-D.
Why this expensive software is so incomplete?  (BTW, I think ACAD is too
expensive and wonder why so many people use it.  Is $3000 for one software
is reasonable?)
Thank you for reading this.  Also, I greatly appreciate any suggestion.
-- 
Junji Hata, Los Angeles
jhata@sure.net
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Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer
From: culprb@aol.com (Culprb)
Date: 14 Dec 1996 02:10:10 GMT
(defun C:LF () (command ".layer" "off" "*" "" ""))
(defun C:LFX () (command ".layer" "off" "*|*" ""))
(defun C:LO () (command ".layer" "on" "*" "off" "vpl" ""))
(defun C:LOX () (command ".layer" "on" "*|*" ""))
(defun C:LOF () (prompt "\nPick object drawn on layer you wish to turn
OFF...")
   (setq LYOF (cdr (assoc '8 (entget (car (entsel))))))
   (command ".LAYER" "OF" LYOF ""))
(defun C:LS ()
   (prompt "\nPick object drawn on layer you wish to be new CURRENT LAYER
...")
   (setq LAY (cdr (assoc '8 (entget (car (entsel))))))(command ".LAYER"
"S" LAY ""))
(defun C:LSF ()
   (prompt "\nPick object drawn on layer you wish to remain ON...")
   (setq LAY (cdr (assoc '8 (entget (car (entsel))))))
   (command ".LAYER" "S" LAY "OFF" "*" "" ""))
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Subject: Re: Thanks for help - line weights
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:30:42 -0600
In article <19961213211600.QAA24163@ladder01.news.aol.com>, 
laanis@aol.com says...
> Thanks for all the help - for those of you who asked me I did e-mail you
> the answers I recieved - before I found out something I didn't know.  To
> use the pen assignments on ACAD plot window you have to use the SYSTEM
> PLOTTING plot config selection.  Do NOT use the HP plot config selection. 
> The system plotter config selection lets you use the windows printer and
> the pen assignment options.
Sheila,
This is not true.  You do not need to use the System Printer to allow the 
changes to the pen settings.  If your HP driver will not allow the 
changing of the pen settings than either the driver is old or not 100% 
compatable with that printer.
I've set up several HP printers using HP drivers and have always had 
access to pen widths.
Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:27:58 -0600
In article <32B19CAA.7AED@visgen.com>, sid@visgen.com says...
> A few days ago there was a request here for a lisp
> routine that would freeze a layer by clicking on
> an entity on that layer. Several routines fell out
> of that thread which I found very useful ... as did
> the original requester, I'm sure. Thanks guys.
> 
> What I would also find useful is sort of the inverse
> of that routine: that is, by clicking on an entity
> all layers *other* than the layer containing the 
> entity would be turned-off/frozen.
If you look at some of the routines that were sent to you, you most 
likely will figure out how to do that on your own.  Just change the line 
where it said Freeze so that it makes that layer current.  Then add a 
second line that will Freeze "*".
Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: Landscape design
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:17:29 -0600
In article <32b1b596.44103709@news.campus.mci.net>, psweeney@nm-
us.campus.mci.net says...
> On Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:16:12 -0600, dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
> wrote:
> 
> >Looking for suggestion on landscape design software.  3d rendering,
> >fly-overs, etc. needed.  Stand alone applications and/or third party 
> >addons for commercial packages (ie: AutoCAD, Microstation, etc.) are all 
> >acceptable.  This system would ultimatly be used for golf course design.
> >
> >Thank you.
> 
> For landscape design, the best is LandCadd .  For golf course design,
> I would use LandCadd (3rd party vendor for AutoCad) and a good
> irrigation software program from Toro (a version of LandCadd's
> irrigation module) or Rainbird. Both are excellent.
> 
> --Phil--
> 
> 
Thanx for your input.
Sincerely,
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Subject: Help with Error Handler re-entered. Existing Now
From: SSA
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:29:51 -0800
Greetings,
Suddenly AutoCAD has been giving the the follow error after I first
enter Windows 3.11 and start AutoCAD from the MicroSoft Office Buttom
Bar:
AutoCAD error-abort
Error Handler re-entered
exiting now OK
I hit OK and AutoCAD returns me to the Program Manager.  I then hit the
AutoCAD button again and everything works fine.
I only get the before mentioned error the first time I try to enter
AutoCAD.  Every time after that without leaving Windows 3.11 AutoCAD
works fine.
Need some help,
Craig Wallace
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Subject: Re: Lisp help: freeze layer
From: Scott Drager
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:57:28 -0600
sid herbage wrote:
> 
> A few days ago there was a request here for a lisp
> routine that would freeze a layer by clicking on
> an entity on that layer. Several routines fell out
> of that thread which I found very useful ... as did
> the original requester, I'm sure. Thanks guys.
> 
> What I would also find useful is sort of the inverse
> of that routine: that is, by clicking on an entity
> all layers *other* than the layer containing the
> entity would be turned-off/frozen.
> 
> Any takers?
> --
>     ... Sid (sid@visgen.com)
Try this-It's not pretty but it works.
(defun C:alloff (/ howmany count teststr picked frzoroff oldexpert
loption)
(setvar "cmdecho" 0)
(setq oldexpert (getvar "EXPERT"))
(setvar "EXPERT" 0)
(setq loption "OFF")
(setq count 0)
(print "Select layers to leave on")
(setq picked (ssget))
(setq howmany (sslength picked))
(setq teststr(cdr (assoc 8 (entget (ssname picked count)))))
;(cdr (assoc 8 (entget (car (entsel "\nSelect Object/Layer to retain:
")))))
(setq frzoroff (strcase (getstring "\nDo you want the other layers Off
or Frozen? : ")))
(if (= frzoroff "F")(setq loption "FREEZE")(setq t nil))
(setvar "clayer" teststr)
(command "layer" loption "*" "" "")
(setq count 1)
(while (> howmany count)
     (setq teststr(cdr (assoc 8 (entget (ssname picked count)))))
     (if (= frzoroff "F")(setq loption "THAW")(setq loption "ON"))
     (command "layer" loption teststr "")
     (setq count (+ 1 count))
)
(setvar "EXPERT" oldexpert)
(princ)
)
Scott Drager
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Subject: acad R12 BACKUP DISK cant get it to run and dont know why
From: w00dst0ck1@aol.com (W00DST0CK1)
Date: 14 Dec 1996 03:11:29 GMT
can anyone help me to run my acad r12 dos on a backup copy 
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Subject: Anyone heard of CADDIE 4.3 ? (old program)
From: bushroe@primenet.com (Fred Bushroe)
Date: 13 Dec 1996 15:46:02 -0700
I Need to get a copy of Caddie 4.3.   A client has an old pascal
program that uses Caddie 4.3  - HPGL output.   For some reason
the program will not work with modern HPGL.
Someone told me Caddie was a CAD program - about 15 years old.
Has anyone ever heard of this program?
Any help would be much appreciated. 
Thanks, Fred
bushroe@primenet.com
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Subject: Re: osnaps
From: "David E. Gonsalves"
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:34:23 GMT
Aileen,
What you can do is set your mouse driver to something other than a
Microsoft (read two button) mouse.  I use a Logitech driver that supports
three buttons.  If you have three button support already, you need to make
sure that you haven't set the middle button as an accelerator key (like
double left click, or something like that) AutoCAD will pop down the POP0
menu (what you're calling OSNAPS) for you only when the key is defined as a
single middle click.
I hope this helps
David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
delliottg@olywa.net
aileen  wrote in article
<32B1B443.2EDB@email.csun.edu>...
> okay, i realize this was prolly discussed long ago, but i missed it and 
> now we're stuck...
> 
> can anyone tell me how to set the middle button of the 3-button mouse so 
> that it brings up the osnap menu (instead of having to hit the shift key 
> with the right button) for Autocad R13?  explaining this in layman's 
> terms (read: computer "not-so-literate"!) would be great...
> 
> thanks much!
> 
> aileen
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Autodesk buys Softdesk
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:37:03 GMT
On 12 Dec 1996 03:39:14 GMT, "Tony Tanzillo"
 wrote:
First up, I think that everyone here is trying to second guess what
Autodesk will and will not do with Softdesk.  With Softdesk writing
AutoCAD enhancement programs I fail to see how it "competes" with
AutoCAD.  Those criticising the acquisition seem to feel that there is
something sinister involved.  For Softdesk to have "been on the
market", there must have been something amiss with it.  Let's take
this from another viewpoint.  Could it be that Autodesk found one of
its major applications developers in trouble and so decided to make
sure that AutoCAD users were not going to suddenly be left with
nothing?
As far as Eagle Point loosing 30% of its stock value, we need to talk
to the investors to find out why this happened.  It could also be that
the stock was overvalued to start with, or that investors saw that a
strengthened Softdesk under Autodesk was not going to be good for
Eagle Point, so decided to bail out and go for something better.
All of this is speculation.  I am prepared to wait and see.  This is
not the first acquisition/merger by players in the CAD arena, and will
not be the last.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: Re: JetPro V100 lineweights ?
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:37:02 GMT
On 11 Dec 1996 21:41:17 GMT, chrism1@wolfenet.com (chris matzen)
wrote:
>I've got the Houston Instruments JetPro V100 and AutoCAD R12.
>R12 has no specific driver for the HI JetPro V100, but it is a 17" wide
>media, 360 dpi mono inkjet with rollfeed attachment installed.
>
>I'm having difficulty producing multiple lineweights. I need at least four
>different lineweights: object,dimension,section lines, and centerline.
>
>Can someone please recommend which of the R12 ADI plotters I should try to
>emulate and describe a proven method of printing multiple lineweights with
>the JetPro V100?
>
>The JetPro V100 itself can be set to interpret HPGL, HPGL/2, DMPL, and raster.
You should be able to use the standard HP-GL/2 driver that comes with
AutoCAD.  Set the line widths in the pen assignments dialog, and then
make sure that the printer is set to accept pen information from
software (ie the plot file).
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: Autocad crashing system
From: John Vago
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:06:13 -0700
Hope some Sun guru could help...
Here's the stats:
Solaris 2.3, 64 MB RAM, Acad12c4
I've got 2 custom apps, a drafter app and a batch printing app.
As the data files are the same, I'm using the same
acad config in 2 seperate dirs.
The drafting app(with lots of ADS programs loaded) runs fine.
THe printing app, which kicks off acad in a loop with a .scr
to plot, crashes the X server when the script completes and
Autocad tries to close the window.
A back trace of the core file shows it happened in a memcpy()
somewhere in the DestroyRetainedShared(or something) func of the X
server.
Per Autocad support and pg 179 of the Installation of Acad on Solaris
manual, I've modified /usr/openwin/bin/openwin and added
PASSTHRU=-sharedretainedpath /opt
A NULL PASSTHRU causes ACAD to use /tmp which also happens to be swap
on our machines. The above modification to the X server keeps
ACAD from crashing.  It has to do with how backing store is handled...
I DO get the warning message on pg 179 about the XGL driver
not being able to allocate backing store memory, but it runs ok, and
does not crash.
The wierd thing is /opt is 775 owned by root, so I don't have write
permisssion to /opt.  When I set /opt(or any subdirs) to 777, Acad
crashes in the same place, while trying to close?  Same results
if I run acad as root whether or not I change the sharedretainedpath.
I need to solve this problem and I think Support and I are running
out of guesses.  Oh, btw, I have tried running the batch
printing app with and without our ADS programs too.  I thought
maybe it was working on the drafting app because the memcpy
was overwriting our ADS stuff and we were getting lucky. I thought
that if the ADS wasn't there, the memcpy was hitting the goods.
One more thing: Our drafting app have 2 configs, 1 for sites with
raster, and 1 for those that don't.  The raster version of the config
does NOT crash.
*ANY* ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks,
John Vago
jv9358@zobiss1s.sbc.com
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Subject: Bhatch
From: "Kent Barker"
Date: 11 Dec 1996 22:20:57 GMT
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aGF2ZSB0cmllZCB0byByZWFkIHRocm91Z2ggdGhlIGJoYXRjaC5kY2wgZmlsZSwgYW5kIHRob3Nl
IGl0ZW1zIGxpa2UganVzdCBsaWtlIG1lbnUgYnV0dG9ucyB0aGF0IGRvIGFsbG93IGZvciBxdWlj
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LA0KDQpLZW50IEJhcmtlcg0Ka2I0MjkxOEBuYXZpeC5uZXQNCg==
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Subject: Re: Scottish CAD users
From: Bill Wollaston
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:21:52 -0800
Stevie wrote:
> 
> Any Scottish CAD users in this news group
> 
> --
> Stevie
	Does it count if maybe one of my ancestors was maybe a little 
scotch, and maybe i like to drink scotch?
	If so...
		yes.
	Bw.
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Subject: Re: Scottish CAD users
From: Bill Wollaston
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:23:48 -0800
Bill Wollaston wrote:
> 
> Stevie wrote:
> >
> > Any Scottish CAD users in this news group
> >
> > --
> > Stevie
> 
>         Does it count if maybe one of my ancestors was maybe a little
> scotch, and maybe i like to drink scotch?
>         If so...
>                 yes.
> 
>         Bw.
	Whoopps, missed the thread again..
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Subject: Re: "Delay" script command/P-200
From: Scott Drager
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:53:09 -0600
Lee Harding wrote:
> 
> You could try the 'pause' command. But, it waits for input so it won't
> continue until you type something -- not exactly the same behavior.
> 
> --
> 
> Lee Harding
> Autodesk, Inc.
> MCAD
Pause command doesn't work because it assumes the next line of the
script file is input. I just put in a BS command like "google" this
crashes the script. However typing in resume restarts the script at the
line after "google".
Scott Drager
> 
> Robert S. Carroll  wrote in article
> <58s51e$cst@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>...
> : In the past several days I have been completing the transition from a
> 486DX2-66
> : with 8megs of ram to a P-200 with 32 megs of ram. I have run into a
> problem with
> : my script files on the new computer. I am running AutoCad r12_c3 DOS and
> now my
> : "delay" command (to allow me to stop the script file) is nonexistant! (It
> is
> : still "there" but because of the processor speed, even a delay set to the
> : maximum integer value doesn't even slow the script down!)
> :
> : Does anyone know of a "fix" I can use to delay/stop the script and still
> allow
> : me to resume the script? (I know that I could break my script file down
> into
> : several smaller script files and call each one seperatly, but that seems
> crude.)
> :
> : Thanks in advance for any information you might give.
> :
> :
> : Sincerely,
> : Robert S. Carroll
> : rscarr@ix.netcom.com
> :
> :
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD R14 --> LT4?
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 14 Dec 1996 05:00:45 GMT
Amar Hanspal  wrote in article
<01bbe7d5$90d74d20$b30c6f90@pc51577.autodesk.com>...
> 
> > >I forgot that I also read that release 14 will also get Visual BASIC
> > >for Applications as a macro language.  I am not sure if that means
> > >that AutoLISP goes or stays. Can anybody clear that up for me?
> > 
> > From what I have been told, AutoLISP will still be there.
> 
> Ian is absolutely right.  AutoLISP will still be there in future AutoCAD
> releases.
> 
So how about leaving it, VBA, in for LT4?
  (Talk about an influx of 3rd party apps.... whew!)
And how about watching the "footprint" on both hardrive
and ram. Because with LT3 my P75 w/24 meg & 2 meg video
is workable, but.... you'll have to admit it takes a
big chunk compared to LT2.
Wondering if Santa AutoDesk will be nice to the poor LTers,
Stef
-- 
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|  |-|   \/ ------------
------- |              | \       CAD
   _____^  ------------|  \        Cow
   ------  |        |  |   *       Aided
           ^        ^  ^           Drafting
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Subject: autocad R12 for sale
From: JS
Date: 13 Dec 1996 12:42:52 -0800
I have autocad for windows R12 (with AME) for sale if anyone interested please E-mail
me at:  jimmys@flash.net  .   Price is negotiable.
I just bought PRO-E package, and there is no reason for me to keep 
both and the same time. 
Thanks,
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Subject: Re: Dimensioning
From: John Lute
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:57:37 +1100
Phillip Ingle wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to set up R13 for windows so that when you select a
> dimensioning toolbar button it automatically changes to your
> dimensioning layer?
> --
> Phillip Ingle              (http://members.aol.com/philingle)
> Design Engineer
> International Safety Components Ltd.   (http://isc.wales.com)
Phillip,
The short answer is Yes.
Here are two lines from my dimension toolbar.-
ID_DimLin      [_Button("Linear Dimension", ICON_16_DIMLIN,
ICON_32_DIMLIN)]^C^C^P(dimset) ^P_dimlinear 
ID_DimAli      [_Button("Aligned Dimension", ICON_16_DIMALI,
ICON_32_DIMALI)]^C^C^P(dimset) ^P_dimaligned 
Notice the (dimset) this is a function I have defined in the menu's .mnl
file.
(defun DIMSET ( / )
   (setvar "CMDECHO" 0)
   (if (/= (getvar "CLAYER") "DIM")
       (command "layer" "M" "DIM" "c" "3" "DIM" "")
   )
   (setvar "CMDECHO" 1)
   (princ)
)
I have abrivated this function to get answer your question.  I normally
also check the layer is ON, THAWED and UNLOCKED.  Also I like to ensure
I am using a standard dimension style so i use this function to restore
it.
Hope this helps
Regards,
John Lute
Delatite Design
Melbourne Australia
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Subject: Re: ACAD R 13 : DXF format problems
From: Mathew White
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:22:49 -0800
I've not tried it but the R13 docs claim that R13 has a wmfout command
that generates a windoze meta-file, which, if valid is what all of
MSword's 'clipart' is. . . might be a better match for use in Work,
dinnea the first thing 'bout Corel, hope this helps.
 Luc MERTES wrote:
>
> I have tried to import in Corel Draw 5.0 a autocad drawing in DXF format
> generated win AutoCAD R13 (Win 95).  That doesn't work !  Same story with
> Microsoft Word 6.0.  The error message says that some part of the code is
> not comprehensible ...
>
> Note : all of this work fine with acad R12 ...
>
> Does anybody know this problem ... and has a solution ?
>
> Many thanks !
>
> Luc
	- mw
Do not sell or distribute this address without express permission!
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Subject: Re: Want to buy Autocad
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 07:13:27 GMT
ka0osk@creighton.edu wrote:
>I'm looking for an older version of Autocad to do simple house design.
>If you can recommend a particular version that would work and I could
>buy for cheap...let me know!
>Anyone got an old vers for sale?
"Old" versions of AutoCAD are not for sale. The license is no longer valid.
Besides, in my humble opinion AutoCAD is overkill for what you're looking to do.
Go down to your local discount software store and pick up a copy of sone of the
low-cost CAD packages they have on the shelf. It'll be cheaper and a lot easier
for you to learn.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: How to post message
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 07:13:29 GMT
dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young) wrote:
>>   (command "layer" "M" "BUILDING_L" "C" 3 "" "1" "continuos" "" "")
>There is, however, a problem with what your trying to do in your LISP 
>routine.  The line (command "line") specifies no coordinates for your 
>lines.
To which I would add that "continuous" is spelled wrong and will hang at the
"layer" command.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: Scottish CAD users
From: "David E. Gonsalves"
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:43:29 GMT
Border Scot of the the Clan Elliott here...like drinking it too...
Stevie  wrote in article
...
> Any Scottish CAD users in this news group
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stevie
> 
> 
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