Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ?
From: glenn.thomson@comdev.ca (Glenn Thomson)
Date: 16 Dec 1996 15:08:24 GMT
In article <32ACB6DB.600B@astral.magic.ca>,
"G. Shane J. Lafreniere" wrote:
>
>Nägel wrote:
>>
>> John H. wrote:
>>
Snip
>> Looking at my collage diploma (which was only a 2 year course) it
>> clearnly states "Commercial Engineer". I've been calling myself that
>> for years and nobody has gave me a hard time about it,...... yet....
>
>
>Nagel,
>
>Well, good thing you not in Ontario, Canada, or any other province for
>that matter.
>
>Within Canada, it is a provincial and federal offence to use the term
>'engineer' in your job title unless you are a licenced practioner.
>
>Canada passed the Professional Engineers Act in 1990, and along with the
>Ritual Calling of an Engineer, (if you notice a Canadian engineer with a
>battered Iron ring on their working hand...) the job title, whether
>working for a company, or on your own private business card will not
>allow you or your company to use those terms.
>
>As well, being a self-governing, self regulated (within provincial
>boundaries), there are also different levels of 'Service' or licences
>that can be obtained. These range from a Temp Licence, to a "Consulting
>Engineer" title.
>
>There is a rather lengthy, formal process to be followed to obtain a
>licence (which I'm currently doing) and be able to practice within
>Canada as a Professional Engineer.
>
> With this extra work, comes extra responsibility. All practicing
>Engineers have special Certificates and Liability insurance either at
>the personal level, or at the employer-company level.
>
>Hence, not only can a skilled person who may do a similiar job in
>Canada NOT use an Engineering title, but those who do need special
>Licences to practice.
I'd like to know what locomotive engineers and stationary engineers call
themselves in your part of Ontario, then.
Cheers,
Glenn Thomson, P. Eng.
Subject: Re: Anyone got a printer driver for acad r13
From: Desi Moreno
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:18:21 -0800
Mark_Starford@MSN.com wrote:
>
> Can anyone help?
> I require a printer driver for acadR13 that will work on my Hewlett Packard Deskjet 600 printer in black & white only, & also allow me to use line weights. I have a shareware driver but it expires in acouple of days!
> If anyone can help please e-mail the relevant driver to me!
>
> Mark_Starford@MSN.com
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Mark, is this driver going to explode ? If it actually stops working,
go to HP's home page and pick up a driver from there. www.hp.com
se ya
--
Mr. Desi Moreno desim@mid.org
Modesto Irrigation District
Electrical Engineering Technician
http://www.invsn.com/desmos/autolisp.htm
Subject: Need Microstation to AutoCAD Conversion
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:12:16 -0600
One of our clients has an imediate need for the conversion of several
older Microstation file to AutoCAD DWG/DXF (r10 thru r13 is fine) files.
The initial files to be converted are the following...
---snip---snip---snip---
LPGG1 DGN 534,016 08-03-93 9:26a LPGG1.DGN
LPGG1B DGN 623,616 07-16-92 5:06p LPGG1B.DGN
LPGG2 DGN 42,496 07-22-92 9:12a LPGG2.DGN
LPGG3 DGN 54,272 09-25-92 10:33a LPGG3.DGN
LPGG4 DGN 47,104 09-25-92 12:50p LPGG4.DGN
LPGG5 DGN 76,800 09-25-92 12:54p LPGG5.DGN
LPGG6 DGN 44,544 07-09-92 9:54a LPGG6.DGN
LPGB1 DGN 343,552 07-09-92 2:25p LPGB1.DGN
LPGB1C DGN 787,968 10-01-92 1:34p LPGB1C.DGN
LPGB2 DGN 44,032 10-01-92 7:00a LPGB2.DGN
LPGB3 DGN 34,304 07-13-92 10:06a LPGB3.DGN
LPGB4 DGN 43,008 07-11-92 7:38a LPGB4.DGN
LPGB5 DGN 43,520 10-01-92 8:00a LPGB5.DGN
---snip---snip---snip---
If the conversion goes well, there will be aproximently 15 more disks of
files to be converted in the future. he files are topo's for stone
quarries.
Please state your rate and turn around time.
Rates may be quoted by any of the following
Sincerely,
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Subject: US-NY-Buffalo-CAD Designers
From: Tony Casciano
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:04:16 -0800
Superior Design Company, Inc. has CAD Designer positions available.
These positions will provide hourly pay range from $18 to $27/hr
depending upon skills and CAD proficiency.
As a provider of CAD services, our mission is to provide checking,
design and detailing services
to various customers in Western New York. These positions will support
our customers which
outsource work to our CAD Center located here in Buffalo, N.Y.
Interested candidates should forward
their resume to:
Tony Casciano
Superior Design Co.,Inc.
Williamsville, NY 14231-9057
800.568.8310 ext. 222
fax: 716.633.7985
email: cascianot@buff.supdes.com
EOE/M/F/D/V
Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad
From: ned@kilowatt.whoi.edu (Ned Forrester)
Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:55:31 GMT
In article , rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state (ralphus) writes:
|> I have a father that wants an electrical engineering cad program (for win
|> 3.1 or dos) for xmas. I know a lot about music and sound software but I
|> don't have the faintest idea of what is out there in the realm of cad. I
|> have only $140 to spend and need something that will let him draw diagrams
|> of circuit boards and such. It doesn't have to be fancy, it just has to
|> have symbols for capacitors and resistors etc. I have looked around at
|> computer software stores and just received blank looks from the workers
|> (go figure). If anyone can e-mail me a recomendation for an appropriate
|> cad it will be much appreciated. If you also have information on how to
|> contact the company to order the software that will be doubly appreciated.
The commercial cad programs would sell in the $500-$50,000 range, with
a corresponding range in quality. In your price range, I agree with
another poster that you should be looking at shareware; I hear there
are some good ones. You will get the best guidance if you post your
request on sci.electronics.cad. This group is mostly interested in
regulatory matters.
--
Ned Forrester nforrester@whoi.edu
Applied Ocean Physics and Engineering Dept. / Oceanographic Systems Lab
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA 02543, USA
Subject: Re: AutoDESK Certification
From: Howard Breen
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:55:00 -0800
Don Buschert wrote:
>
> albert einstein wrote:
> >
> > Is AutoDESK Certification worth the time and expense?
>
> I think that any certification you may have can be a tremendous
> advantage if your competitor(s) fail to have it. The main reason we
> spend those long hours in evenings and weekends, is to work toward some
> kind of credibility in the hope that it will provide future employment
> oppurtunities.
>
> Training of any kind is actually an investment. There are no guarantees
> that someone with a degree in Chemical Engineering will actually work in
> that field. However, some of the skills learned could very well be
> applied to any career in life. I'd never consider an education
> "wasted".
>
> I've always found AutoCAD to be complex when compared to other computer
> packages. That's why I always recommend taking basic courses at the
> very least. It's one thing to step through the tutorial, yet another to
> study the manual(s). The best way, I think, is to get "hands-on"
> experiance from a organization that issues certification.
>
> > Do employers
> > feel that it is a appropriate measure of skills and knowledge?
>
> I for one am grateful that there are some types of AutoCAD certification
> available. If I'm hiring a CAD drafter, I'll take the one who is
> certified. Why? Because I KNOW they know AutoCAD. They've met a
> certain standard. That's not to say that ALL employers will do that.
> Some may hire based on ties into the organization (Uncle, nephew/niece;
> etc...) or perhaps they have other marketable skills which can benefit
> the company.
>
> > Do
> > those who have certification believe that they are more marketable
> > than those without it?
>
> A CAD person has to continually work at improving the different facets
> of their protfolio. Getting proper CAD certification is a great start.
> But what about basic personal skills? How to get along with people?
> How to manage time effectively? How to act in an interview? How to
> "sell" yourself? How to walk in integrity? Even how to spell or write
> properly? I can't believe in this day and age how many grown men and
> woman lack these qualities.
>
> I think each person needs to sit down and examine their own career
> strengths and weaknesses. CADwise, getting proper training and/or
> certification will always fall in your favor...
>
> --
> Don Buschert don.buschert@sait.ab.ca
> Facilities Planning & Design
> Campus Operations & Maintenance Fax : (403)284-7272
> Southern Alberta Institute of Technology Calgary, AB, Canada
I believe Don has not understood the question that Eienstein asked. It
is AutoDesk's certification program that is questioned, not
certification in general. AutoDesk makes claims for it's certification
program that are greatly exaggerated or from whole cloth. It is viable,
recognized certification that one seeks, not an insincere marketing ploy
by admittedly vested interests. I have found AutoDesk's claims for its'
certification program to be disingenuous. I have both level I and level
II certifications from this program.
Paul Breen
Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad
From: Andrew Ellis
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:12:45 -0800
Just a short vote for what I think is a terrific commercial product
in this price range: EasyCad (Evolution Computing, Tempe, AZ).
It's strictly 2D and uses a proprietary file format (.ECW), but can
also read and write .DXF.
Colleagues of mine and I use it for lots of electronic and mechanical
design drawings. There are several parts libraries for various
disciplines.
BTW, if anyone is interested in purchasing our libraries, say around
$50 each (schematic and mechanical) please email me.
With or without our libraries, we believe EasyCad is a terrific
product. Since it runs under Windows 3.1/95, any output device
with a Windows driver works with it.
Andy sez, "Check it out!"
Andrew Ellis
KCBS/KLLC/KPIX Radio
San Francisco
ellis@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: INSERTING COMMERCIAL ITEMS INTO MECH DESKTOP MODELS
From: "Lee Harding"
Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:45:36 GMT
Allen,
First off, have you heard of Part Spec™ from Autodesk? It is a library of
mechanical components on a CD ROM shipped with the Desktop. You should have
gotten a copy in the box.
To get to the meat of your question, how you incorporate 2D data in your 3D
design is completely up to you. Three possibilities are:
1. Use the 2D data to generate 3D models that can be used in the design.
This is expensive, but may be worth the cost is some circumstances (e.g. if
you need mass props, surface information, etc.)
2. Use the 2D data in model space as reference geometry for creating your
designs. This can be very helpful for assembly layout where precise
geometry is required, but solid model data is not.
3. Use the 2D data as parametric annotations in paperspace. This is usually
the most valuable approach. For example, instead of having a solid model of
a standard bolt in a flange assembly, just attach the bolt to the view of
the assembly as an annotation.
I hope this helps,
--
Lee Harding
Autodesk, Inc.
MCAD
No soliciting, please.
Al Petten wrote in article
<32B41410.17C6@sympatico.ca>...
: I have been designing machines the last couple of years using cadra
: version 9. I have amassed a large collection of cad drawings supplied
: by parts vedors such as thk, bimba, festo, skf etc.... I have found that
: these are excellent time savers and error reducers. I have recently
: bought mechanical desktop and am planning to make the leap to parametic
: design of solid models.
: I like this method but I am not sure how to incorporate commercial items
: into my designs as easily as i have become used to.
: Any suggestions would be helpful.
:
: Allen Petten
: Enterprise ON
:
Subject: Re: Reducing faces of Designer Geometry
From: "Lee Harding"
Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:48:15 GMT
I believe that the FACETRES variable is what you are looking for. A value
of 2.0 is a good starting point -- larger numbers specify finer meshes.
--
Lee Harding
Autodesk, Inc.
MCAD
No soliciting, please.
ezucker@pica.army.mil wrote in article ...
:
: I'm solid modelling in Designer 2.0, exporting the geometry to 3D Studio
Max
: for rendering/animation... I need to find the system variable in
Designer
: which will increase the number of faces, so the solid model's surface is
: smooth looking. Right now, the parts that show up in 3DStudioMAX have
very
: large faces, making the model pretty unrealistic looking. A simple
cylinder
: which should appear perfectly round, looks almost octangle-ish!!!
:
: When I used the "Advanced Modeling Extension", the setting was called
: SOLWIREDENS or somesuch...
:
: Jeez, if I only knew the correct "buzzword" of what I'm talking about,
I'm sure
: the answer is right here in front of me. :-)
:
: Thanks in advance for your help.
: Ed Zuckerman
: US Army ARDEC
:
:
Subject: archaeology
From: TLEW
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:39:21 -0500
What is a good autocad program I could use to accurately draw on a
computer what we mapped in the field? Obviously, I need to keep things to
scale and be able to measure everything as I draw it on the screen. I am
currently using draft choice for windows, but it is not as user friendly
as I would like. I need a program that combines the ease of a draw
program such as Corel Draw with a cad program. And I'm a student, so the
cheaper, the better. Please respond directly to me.
TIA,
Tim Lewis
tlewis@luna.cas.usf.edu
Subject: Re: Looking for Corel to Autocad conversion
From: "Sergei M. Komarov"
Date: 16 Dec 1996 20:23:53 +0200
> Hi,
> Can anyone recomend the best way to convert Corel Draw (.cdr) files
> into Autocad (.dwg or .dxf) files so that the text gets converted as
> text?
> When I convert the files (which have a lot of text) into Autocad, I
> have to retype all of the text so that it is recognized as text and
> not just a bunch of lines.
> Are there any utilities or tricks to avoid this?
>
> Thanks,
> Robbo
>
Hi Robbo,
if you work with Windows platformed AutoCAD, export your image from Corel
Draw as *.WMF file. There will be two options: "Save Text Objects As Text"
and "Save Text Objects As Curves". Check radio button "...As Text". Then
import the wmf by AutoCAD and EXPLODE newly created image block. Now all
texts from Corel Draw are text primitives in AutoCAD. They are drawn
using current text STYLE, though they are represented as separate letters,
not as phrases. The second way: create your text as "Paragraph(s) Text" in
Corel Draw, then export it as plain text(s) (separatly from other objects).
Export other objects as DXF using the option "Save Selected Objects Only".
First import your DXF by AutoCAD, then import text(s) with support utility
ASCTEXT.LSP. Of course you must now edit text layout manually, but it is
easier than retype everything.
The other problem with converting Corel Draw -> AutoCAD is that either DXF
or WMF filters approximate curves as hundreds of short vectors. I have the
converter, that can approximate Corel Draw drawings with arcs and vectors
and write DXFs. The difference in DXF-file length between standard Corel
filter and the converter is 5 to 10 times. If you are interested, please
send me email. Regards,
Dr. S.Komarov, komarov@mailcom.lviv.ua
Ukrainian Academy of Printing
Subject: Re: Want to buy Autocad
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:03:22 GMT
sfr928@ct2.nai.net (Steve Rockwell) wrote:
>In article <58tgpq$7qq@news1.halcyon.com>, jeeper@halcyon.com says...
>>
>>"Old" versions of AutoCAD are not for sale. The license is no longer valid.
>>
>I beg to differ with this point. If an old license has not been upgraded it
>is still as valid as the day it was purchased.
By "old", the implication was, and perhaps mistakenly so, assumed to be a copy
that had indeed been upgraded.
You're quite right, of course.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:03:09 GMT
Lansing Pugh wrote:
>Marshall Caudle wrote:
>>
>> In almost forty years in the construction industry, I have never seen
>> a tool(s) that could cut the cost of a project by 30%.
>Marshall:
>In your forty years in the construction industry, you may have not
>gotten
>the perspective of the >>building owner<< referred to in the quote from
>Jim Quanci.
I suspect that any architect that has had the honor and privilidge to call
him/herself one for 40 years can hardly be accused of not having considered the
perspective of the owner, his/her client that does, after all pay the bill in
the end. If you had any insight whatsoever into the design process, Mr. Pugh,
you would realize that long term life cycle costing is one of the most important
considerations a good architect uses in the choice of materials and systems in
the buildings they do.
> I've read that the life cycle costs of a building are quite
>high compared to the initial building cost.
So you've read a few articles in some trade magazines or reports from ... we
have no idea, and now the first cost of a building is insignificant in
comparison to the overall cost of maintaining a facility! Life cycle costs are
ongoing. Reduction in their cost doesn't imply they are eliminated.
Does any of your research into this subject offer any substantive figures for
where the costs of facilities management are incurred? Now, I should
differentiate the difference I make between facilities management as it pertains
to leasing and property management and the management of the physical plant.
We do a moderate amount of work in the health care market, hospitals and such.
Every one of these facilities maintains a staff of operating engineers,
electricians and such just to keep the place operating. What percentage of the
maintenance costs are for labor and what percentage is for materials? And how
would a CAD based as-built reduce either of them to the extent being offered?
> Perhaps there might be some truth in the fluff, after all.
Perhaps you should spend some time wearing a tool belt or preparing bid
documents and answering contractor's questions. Leaving any savings potential in
the overall cost of initial construction aside, I defy anyone to illustrate a
savings to the extent that's been claimed in facility management merely due to
the implementation of facilities management documents in CAD format. The only
way that can happen is a significant improvement in the reliability and long
term durability of building systems.
I strongly suspect that Mr. Quinci's remark was directed primarily at the
overall cost of preparation of design/construction documents. As anyone with any
amount of experience in the industry should know, this process accounts for a
major portion of the designer's time and effort. Given a tool that will make the
preparation of these documents all the more automated, accurate and clear, then
savings of the magnitude being bandied about could be realistic. But let's take
different approach to the whole concept of "automated" design.
Are we really eager to accept a situation where the architect's subjective
judgment and artistic skill is to be suplanted with an automated decision making
process? Are we asking for some kind of "rules based" design criteria that
overrides otherwise crucial aspects of harmony, rythm and composition?
>+-------+ Lansing Pugh Associates, Authorized AutoCAD Dealer
The sig speaks for itself.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: globally converting lines to double lines?
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:03:18 GMT
(Reini Urban) wrote:
>rsanchez@ix.netcom.com (Ralph Sanchez, Jr.) wrote:
>>I've got a map that's got roads indicated by single (center) lines.
>>I'd like to make a generic width to indicate pseudo-r.o.w. Is it
>>possible to change all lines on a layer to double lines? Any other
>>ideas?
>Yes it is, but you usually take polylines, not lines, and then there are
>some minor bugs (sometimes) with offsetting polylines (some strange UCS
>errors)
>Just offset it to one and to the other direction. My wall programm can
>handle a lot of parallel lines on different offsets and layers.
Here's a perfect case in point to illustrate a half baked solution to a seeminly
common problem, as offered in release 13. I'm refering to the MLINE feature.
How much more functional would this have been if it had provided a means to
"convert" lines or polylines to a particular pre-defined multiline style? And
there's ample precedence for this as well!
AutoLINE, a third party ... er that is Autodesk "partner" application makes this
something of a snap. Merely chose "Convert" from the Aline dialog, select lines,
arcs or polylines and they're converted to the appropriate line style.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Wintab problems
From: themule@ibm.net (Matt Hortman)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:27:58 GMT
There is a known problem ( i think ) when using the '\' character in
the button menu for a digitizer using the wintab drivers. Instead of
returning the current cursor coordinates, AutoCAD gets an extreme at
the top right of the screen.
I remember seeing some discussion about it in this group but I don't
remember what the outcome was. Was it judged to be an AutoCAD
problem, a windows problem, or the driver? Also, was a workaround
ever found?
thanks,
-Matt
Subject: Re: Wintab problems
From: Dan Vines
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:57:37 -0500
Matt,
Boy do I feel for you. We have had the same problem here. After
contacting both my vendor (not an easy task) and CalComp (harder,
indeed) it has been determined that there is an inherent problem w/ the
way windows iterprets the Wintab command (or something like that).
The bad news is that there will be no fix at least until r14. The worse
news is that it appears that no one is commited to fixing the problem.
Everyone is pushing 'heads-up' toolbars and other "mouse-enabled"
operations over digitizers. When will they wake up and smell the coffee
and realize that the real value of a digitizer in todays windows world
is in the buttons, not the board commands. Maybe someone will market a
decent 16 button mouse...
Enough of the soapbox. It has been rumored that this functionality can
be restored by writing an ARX program to do what AutoCAD is supposed to
do (according to its documentation) in the first place. One of my
co-workers has been discussing this possibility with a free-lance
developer, but nothing has come out of it yet.
Sorry to have to be the bearer of bad news, but maybe if enough people
bitch to autodesk, something will get done about it.
Dan
Matt Hortman wrote:
>
> There is a known problem ( i think ) when using the '\' character in
> the button menu for a digitizer using the wintab drivers. Instead of
> returning the current cursor coordinates, AutoCAD gets an extreme at
> the top right of the screen.
>
> I remember seeing some discussion about it in this group but I don't
> remember what the outcome was. Was it judged to be an AutoCAD
> problem, a windows problem, or the driver? Also, was a workaround
> ever found?
>
> thanks,
>
> -Matt
--
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@~/ ,. \~@ | dvines@mindspring.com
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~ \__U_/ ~ |
Subject: Custom Menu Button; where is the pic?
From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:15:27 GMT
Hey all,
I created some custom menu buttons in Acad, and they looked just
peachy. Only thing is, when I restarted Acad, they were blank; they
still work correctly, but there is no picture on them.
Anyone know what gives here?
Tony
AutocadLT 95 BTW>
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