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Glenn Thompson wrote:
> 
> Anyone,
> 
> I am trying to find a utility that will allow me to create a spiral (2d)
> from a set of 30 circles.
> 
> I am not an Autolisp programmer so have really no idea where to start
> myself.
> 
> Response by email would be greatly appreciated, if you have such a file
> please attach it to return message.
> 
> Thanx in adv'
> 
> GLENN!!!
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Anyone,
> 
> I am trying to find a utility that will allow me to create a spiral
> (2d) from a set of 30 circles.
> 
> I am not an Autolisp programmer so have really no idea where to start
> myself.
> 
> Response by email would be greatly appreciated, if you have such a
> file please attach it to return message.
> 
> Thanx in adv'
> 
> GLENN!!!
I am not sure if this lisp file will help you turn your circles into a 
spiral but if you know the distance between the circles and width of the 
spiral this routine can help you create one according to the 
specifications of a particular design. This is a 2d spiral! I have 
another routine for 3d if you want it.  Good luck!!
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;       This is a programming example.
;
;       Designed and implemented by Kelvin R. Throop in January 1985
;
;       This program constructs a spiral. It can be loaded and called 
;       by typing either "spiral" or the following:
;       (cspiral <# rotations>  
;                ).
;
(defun cspiral (ntimes bpoint cfac lppass / ang dist tp ainc dinc circle bs cs)
        (setq cs (getvar "cmdecho"))    ; save old cmdecho and blipmode
        (setq bs (getvar "blipmode"))
        (setvar "blipmode" 0)           ; turn blipmode off
        (setvar "cmdecho" 0)            ; turn cmdecho off
        (setq circle (* 3.141596235 2))
        (setq ainc (/ circle lppass))
        (setq dinc (/ cfac lppass))
        (setq ang 0.0)
        (setq dist 0.0)
        (command "pline" bpoint)        ; start spiral from base point and...
        (repeat ntimes
           (repeat lppass
              (setq tp (polar bpoint (setq ang (+ ang ainc))
                          (setq dist (+ dist dinc))))
              (command tp)              ; continue to the next point...
           )
        )
        (command)                       ; until done.
        (setvar "blipmode" bs)          ; restore saved blipmode
        (setvar "cmdecho" cs)           ; restore saved cmdecho
        nil
)
;
;       Interactive spiral generation
;
(defun C:SPIRAL ( / nt bp cf lp)
        (initget 1)                     ; bp must not be null
        (setq bp (getpoint "\nCenter point: "))
        (initget 7)                     ; nt must not be zero, neg, or null
        (setq nt (getint "\nNumber of rotations: "))
        (initget 3)                     ; cf must not be zero, or null
        (setq cf (getdist "\nGrowth per rotation: "))
        (initget 6)                     ; lp must not be zero or neg
        (setq lp (getint "\nPoints per rotation <30>: "))
        (cond ((null lp) (setq lp 30)))
        (cspiral nt bp cf lp)
)
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On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:47:48 -0500, James Parks 
wrote:
>Ian:
>
>	Think about 1 thing, Softdesk may hold the writes to certain
>apps that autodesk wants to incorp. in furture rel's. do you read me
>ian:    james
And.......?  If Softdesk wanted to sell that technology, then that was
Softdesk's decision.  For all we know, Softdesk might have licensed it
to Autodesk anyway.  After all, they have licensed the ACIS solids
modeller.
Remember, Softdesk did sell itself to Autodesk.  If Softdesk had so
much concern for its customers, it would have held on.  It did not
have to sell, unless it was already in trouble.  If someone wanted to
buy my business out and it was not in financial trouble, I would
certainly not want to sell.  After all, it they are so interested in
it, then there must be something there they want which is good.  If I
did sell because I wanted the money, or because I was in trouble, I
would hardly think it fair that people should vent their fury at the
buyer.  I would have thought that fury would have been directed at me
for selling out in the first place.
For every buyer there has to be a seller.  If the "seller" does not
want to sell, then the "buyer" cannot do a thing about it.  The
"seller" can simply let the business collapse and loose everything.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
Junk e-mail will be returned, as is, to the sender or the sender's host system.

To follow up, if anyone is interested in the complete results 
and details of the recent Architectural CADD Shootout, in which
AutoCAD/Softdesk came in dead last, you can find it at the 
following URL:
    http://www1.shore.net/~glangdon/event.html
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
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/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
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Dennis Shinn  wrote in article
<58qe1o$m47@news1.halcyon.com>...
> Rod Young  wrote:
> 
> >What do you think?  Is this going to be good for the users?
> 
> >Is Adesk once again spreading itself too thin?
> 
> I was going to comment on Tom's message regaring this move - I hope it's
not
> another GenericCADD fiasco.
> 
> I'm not a Softdesk user but it will be interesting to see how they
incorporate
> some of the technology that Softdesk has been developing.
> 
> Did any one hear if this was a hostile takeover or a mutually agreed to
> purchase? The last I heard, Softdesk was well on its way to a point where
they
> weren't going to have to rely on the AutoCAD CAD engine for their stuff.
> 
> 
> Dennis Shinn
> Seattle AutoCAD User Group
> SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
> CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
> 
> 

On 17 Dec 1996, Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> For all of you customers, and "partners" who feel that you were screwed by
> Autodesk last year, why don't you drop Carol a little note and give her
> your thoughts on this.
Why? She only takes the money which is given to her!
(CAD)System desicions are religious.
  "Years ago people believed in God.
     Now they believe in Bill Gates."
H. P. Heinzel 
  (died 1996)    
+---------------------- T.B.Reithofer ---------------+-----------+
| Gerhard Reithofer Technical Sofware Developement   | Developer |
|                   Registered Autodesk Developer    |   A N D   |
|                   Mechanical Design & Construction | Poweruser |
|  +-----------------------+---------------------+------------------+
| / Email tbr_laa@aon.at  / Phone +43-2522/8726 / CIS 100141,1024  /  
|/ Mobile +43-663/089747 / Fax +43-2522/87268  / PAN 912516323    /
+-----------------------+---------------------+------------------+

I am looking to purchase older copys of ACAD. It does not matter how old
they are. If the software is on original disks and the licence is
transferable I want it. Please send a return E-mail with your price and
location and I will contact you regarding getting the software.
Thanks

Jay Garnett wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if you can use Visual C++ Standard edition
> to build ARX applications, or do you need the Professional
> Edition
> 
The VC++ Standard Edition is sufficient for ARX development.
Mortenw

>   Is this lisp file available, online ?, For R13c4 ?
>
>   Rodd
>   Rodd & Karen Hoffman
>   cheyenne@servtech.com
>
Hi, Hoffman family,
here's my utility ARCTEXT.LSP (it was published in the AUTOCAD MAGAZIN, #2/93,
p.64..67). It places text (in SHX, PFB or TTF format) along a circle. The
difference between my routine and some others is:
  1. It calculates position of each symbol on a circle and spacing with respect to its
its width (e.g. 'MM' occupies more angular space as 'ii');
  2. It can calculate text height or width factor and precisely fit text into
the given arc and angle to prevent text overlapping.
  3. It can add spacing, if the arc length exceeds the text common width.
  You can try different options. Hope you find it useful.
  You can use the routine as you want, only let my name stay in the source.
                                        Regards,
                                             Sergei, komarov@mailcom.lviv.ua
**************************************************************
;*=======================================================*
;*                     ARCTEXT.LSP                       *
;*                   AutoLISP 9.0 to 13                  *
;*                 (c) 1992,96 S. Komarov                *
;*=======================================================*
(gc)
(defun SETERR (ser)
 (setq *error* olderr)
 (if (or (= ser "Function cancelled")(= ser "console break"))
    (princ)
    (prompt (strcat "\nError: " ser))
 )
 (princ)
)
(defun C:ARCTEXT()
(setq oldcmd (getvar "CMDECHO")
      oldhig (getvar "HIGHLIGHT")
      oldbli (getvar "BLIPMODE")
)
 (setq olderr *error*
      *error* seterr)
(setvar "CMDECHO" 0)
(setvar "HIGHLIGHT" 0)
(setvar "BLIPMODE" 0)
(if (null cp) (initget 1))
(setq key (getpoint(strcat"\nCircle center "
     (if cp (strcat "<"(rtos (car cp))","
     (rtos (cadr cp))">") "")":"))
     cp (if key key cp)
     2pi (* 2 pi)
     blindmin 0.15
)
(prompt "\nRadius:")
(command "CIRCLE" cp pause)
(setq r (cdr(assoc 40 (entget(entlast))))
)
(setq key (getdist (strcat "\nText height/0 <" (rtos h 2 2)">:"))
      h (if key key h)
)
(if (zerop h)
 (progn
  (initget 4)
  (setq spc (getreal (strcat
       "\nRelative space (0 to 1) <"(rtos blind 2 2)">:"))
       spc (if spc spc blind)
       blind spc
  )
 )
 (command "CIRCLE" cp (+ r h))
)
(initget "C c R r")
(setq key (getkword "\nClockwise/counteRclockwise :")
       cl (if (or (null key)(= (strcase key) "C")) -1 1)
)
(initget 1)
(setq ang (getangle cp "\nStart:")
      pt (polar cp ang r))
(command "LINE" cp pt "")
(setq ang1 (getangle cp "\nEnd <= Start>:"))
(if (null ang1)
  (setq ang1 ang)
  (command "LINE" cp (polar cp ang1 r) "")
)
(setq al (- ang ang1))
  (if (= cl 1)(setq al (- 2pi al)))
  (if (> al 2pi)(setq al (- al 2pi)))
  (if (<= al 0)(setq al (+ al 2pi)))
(setq str "")
(while (= str "")
 (setq str (getstring 1 "\nText:"))
)
(prop str)
(setq wsum (apply '+ wth)
      spc# (if (< al 2pi)(1- str#) str#)
      okr (* al r)
)
(if (/= h 0)
  (progn (setq spc (/ (- (/ okr h) wsum) spc#))
    (if (> (* blindmin rw 0.97) spc)
      (progn
        (prompt "\nWarning! Text is too high!")
        (initget "W w H h")
        (setq key (getkword "\nChange Width/Hight :")
              key (if (null key) "H" (strcase key))
              spc (* blindmin rw)
              oldh h
              h 0
        )
      )
    )
  )
(setq spc (* rw spc) key "H")
)
 (breite)
 (if (zerop h)(progn (setq h x )(command "CIRCLE" cp (+ h r))))
 (setq r (if (= cl 1)(+ r h) r)
      dob (* cl (/ pi 2.)) i 0 n0 0)
  (while (< i str#)
   (setq ang (+ ang (* cl (+ n0 (setq n0 (nth i wth))
             (if (zerop i) 0 spc))))
              pt (polar cp ang r)
   )
       (command "TEXT" "C" pt h (* 180 (/ (+ ang dob) pi)) (nth i lit))
        (setq i (1+ i))
  )
(command "STYLE" "" "" fixh rw "" "" "" (command))
(setvar "CMDECHO" oldcmd)
(setvar "HIGHLIGHT" oldhig)
(setvar "BLIPMODE" oldbli)
(setq *error* olderr)
(prompt "\nReady!")
(princ)
)
(defun PROP(text / del)
 (setq tabl (tblsearch "STYLE" (getvar "TEXTSTYLE"))
       rw (cdr(assoc 41 tabl))
       fixh(cdr(assoc 40 tabl))
       str# (strlen text)
       lit nil wth nil i 1 del 0.01 cp1 (polar cp 0 del)
 )
   (prompt "\n---->")
   (while (<= i str#)
        (setq l (substr text i 1)
              lit (append lit (list l))
        )
         (prompt l)
         (command "TEXT" "a" cp cp1 l)
            (if (= l " ")(setq ll (* 0.6 rw))
                 (progn
                    (setq ll (/ del (cdr (assoc 40 (entget (entlast))))))
                    (entdel(entlast))
             )
            )
           (setq  wth (append wth (list ll))
                  i (1+ i))
    )
)
(defun BREITE ( / fun der half delta eps)
  (setq  wth (mapcar '(lambda (y) (/ y (* 2 r))) wth)
        half (/ al 2.)
        nrw rw
        eps 0.00001
  )
 (if (zerop h)
  (progn
   (prompt"\nCalculating...")
   (setq x (/ okr (+ wsum (* spc# spc)))
     delta 1
      spc (/ (* spc# spc) 2. r)
   )
   (while (> (abs (* x delta)) eps)
     (setq fun 0 der 0)
     (foreach wi wth
        (setq fun (+ fun (atan (* x wi)))
              der (+ der (/ wi (+ 1 (* wi wi x x))))
        )
      )
      (setq fun (+ (- fun half)(* spc x))
            der (+ der spc)
            delta (/ fun der)
            x (- x delta))
   )
   (if (= key "H")
    (prompt(strcat "New height: "(rtos x)))
    (progn (setq nrw (/ (* rw x) oldh) h oldh)
           (prompt(strcat "New width: "(rtos nrw)))
    )
   )
  )
 (setq x h)
 )
(command "STYLE" "" "" 0 nrw "" "n" "n"(command))
(setq wth (mapcar '(lambda (y) (atan (* x y))) wth)
      spc(/ (- al (* 2 (apply '+ wth))) spc#)
)
)
(setq h 0 blind 0.15 cp nil)
(prompt "\nProgram loaded. Call by ARCTEXT")
(princ)

Tony,
Thanks for the tip. I ordered the book this morning.
Frode
On 16 Dec 1996 22:51:47 GMT, "Tony Tanzillo"
 wrote:
>The quickest way to learn Diesel and AutoLISP is to get
>Maximizing AutoCAD R13 which is available right now, and
>has robust introductions to AutoLISP and Diesel.  
>
>Maximizing AutoLISP will provide a more-comprehensive, 
>less-condensed introduction to AutoLISP, and also covers 
>Diesel but not the the same extent as Maximizing AutoCAD.
>
>You can obtain Maximizing AutoCAD at most major book
>store chains, or directly from Delmar/Autodesk Press 
>at 1-800-347-7707 and asking for ISBN 0-8273-7993-5. 
>
>You may also fax orders to 606-647-5023 (include the 
>ISBN # above, title, author, credit card number and
>expiration date, phone number, and ship-to address).
>-- 
>/*******************************************************/ 
>/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
>/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
>/* --------------------------------------------------- */
>/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
>/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
>/* --------------------------------------------------- */
>/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
>/* --------------------------------------------------- */
>/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
>/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
>/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
>/*******************************************************/
>
>
>Frode Christiansen  wrote in article
><32b52bdb.519418654@news.eunet.no>...
>> I have started to explore the world of AutoLisp and Diesel, and I have
>> found  that I need to learn the basic's of theese languages.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a tip reg. the best books to learn this ?
>> 
>> I understand "Maximizing Autolisp" is one, but is not released before
>> March -97?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> 'B.R.
>> 
>> Frode Christiansen
>> Frode Christiansen
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> My company cannot be held responsible for any technical or
>> economical commitments made in this document.
>> 
Frode Christiansen
-----------------------------------------------------
My company cannot be held responsible for any technical or
economical commitments made in this document.

In article <32B560CD.2A50@cat.com>, Goodwin_larry_a.@cat.com says...
>I just purchased 12 Pentium Pro's and Am using NT 4.0 with AutoCAD
>R13c4a and have no problems with any of them.  I did purchase a 4mb
>video card and it has made regeneration and obslite term.  If you have
>the oppertunity I really enjoy the Micron computers we just got.
>
>Larry
Thanks for the reply Larry,
Are these new computers of yours on a network and If yes what enviroment are 
you running under.

I'm working with Autocad 13 for win95 and Epson Stylus Pro XL.
How can I get dots (or dot lines) printed?.
Can I change pen's colors?, e.g. yellow lines on screen to red lines on
printer.
Thanks in advance.
-- 
Toni Miranda
z-pcibtm@org.ub.es
Parc Cientific de Barcelona

Change the linetype to a dotted one in the drop down box next to the
layers.  If there isn't a dotted one available then you will have to load
one  - type linetype then L for the load option then select from those
available.
You can change the colors printed in the pen assignments dialogue box which
is one of the options after selecting print. The color refers to that shown
on the screen - the pen number refers to the color the printer will print. 
e.g. setting to pen 7 prints a pure black line (useful for preventing the
printer from dithering).
Hope this helps  :-)
-- 
Phillip Ingle                               
(http://members.aol.com/philingle)
Design Engineer
International Safety Components Ltd.             (http://isc.wales.com)
> I'm working with Autocad 13 for win95 and Epson Stylus Pro XL.
> 
> How can I get dots (or dot lines) printed?.
> Can I change pen's colors?, e.g. yellow lines on screen to red lines on
> printer.

I´ve discovered a strange thing in the LT version of Autocad.
If i draw an eclipse an try to export it as an DXF file it will turn up as
an empty file when importing to another system.
This only appers in LT as I tried the same thing in Autocad R12 without any
problem.
Is it me or is it the Ligth version.
Anyone had the same experience ???

Junji Hata wrote:
> 
> Hi, I use AutoCAD R13 c3 for Win on my PC (Pentium90, 48MB, Win3.1 and
> Win95), but ACAD crashes (FATAL ERROR) every 5 minutes.  I can't stand it.
> 
> I also noticed that if I use ACAD for longer, it gets slower and slower and
> eventually crashes.  Why?  If I close ACAD and restart it, it is not slow.
(BTW, I think ACAD is too
> expensive and wonder why so many people use it.  Is $3000 for one software
> is reasonable?)
Firstly it sounds to me like you are running out of virtual memory (swap
file) try freeing up some space to be realistic you should have at the
very least 80 mb avaliable.
Secondly you get what you pay for if you want the best its gonna cost.
How much does your autocad earn you per year?
a lot more than $ 3000 i would guess. Have you seen how much a good
draughting table goes for these days?

Our company has used a Iomega Zip for 6 months Best money spent in 6
months!!!!  Fantastic product for file transfers

Ward Stockwell wrote:
> 
> I need an Upgradable student copy of ACAD r13.  Does anyone where I
> might find one?
There is no such thing as an upgradable student copy

Setting the DWGWRITE varable each time you load a DWG is a good quick
fix but if you want to fix it properly check out the technical docs site
at www.autodesk.com

P Pro WinNT R13 awesome combination the pro gives outstanding
performance combined with the stabilaty of NT go for this option every
time
Brian

Needing a hand drop me a line if you get stuck experience with Part
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aileen  writes: > okay, i realize this was prolly discussed long ago, but i missed it and 
> now we're stuck...
> 
> can anyone tell me how to set the middle button of the 3-button mouse so 
> that it brings up the osnap menu (instead of having to hit the shift key 
> with the right button) for Autocad R13?  explaining this in layman's 
> terms (read: computer "not-so-literate"!) would be great...
> 
> thanks much!
> 
> aileen
Look at windows Program Manager, Control panel for mouse control program. Select none for middle button. Then Autocad will use the middle button.

I am running AutoCAD R13 and printing to an HP Laser Jet 5SI MX.
When I try to print, most of my lines and a lot of text come out
"shaded", not solid black.  I recall having this problem a few
months ago, and it was suggested that I change my "pen assignments"
to one particular color.  This worked for a while, but I am not
using some new AutoCAD format's that were established by my company's
"Standards" area.
Any other suggestions to get my AutoCAD drawings to print properly?
Thank you,
Kristie Leibold
Engineering Assistant
(kristie.leibold@amp.com)

In article <5951se$2vd@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu>, From 
schroedn@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu (nathan schroeder), the following
was written: > I am working on a theatre lighting project, and have come
across the  > following problem:  I need to show lighting instruments
hung at  > various angles, but I want the text associated with them to
always be  > right-side up.  More specifically, I am importing blocks
and rotating  > them, but I want a script to clean up the text after
(and after any  > changes) I'm done placing it.
> 
> Does anyone have any solutions or ideas?  I am familiar with LISP, and
  > quickly learning AutoLisp, but this one seemed a little tricky so I 
> thought I'd ask.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any and all input!
> Nate
> 
> schroedn@cs.colostate.edu
Just an idea how this might be done:
1. make the text you want to write a hidden attribute of the block
2. reserve an additional hidden attribute for later use
3. write a lisp program that extracts the text from your block, writes
the text according your requirements, extracts the handle of this text
and stores this handle as hidden attribute in the place provided for
under 2. This program must also insert the block. 4. For modifications,
write a lisp program that extracts the text handle from the block and
erases the related text, then erases the block. 
Regards
Josef

Dave Jones wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have a friend who just got AutoCAD Map R13 and I gave her a few of
> my favorite lisp routines with instructions how to autoload with
> acadr13.lsp. She said that they wouldn't load, and I thought that she
> was obviously doing something wrong. Well, I just spent 2 hours trying
> to figure out how to autoload lisp routines in AutoCAD MAP without
> success. The acadr13.lsp file is loading the other programs listed in
> the file but would not load my lisp routines. My routines are
> installed in a subdirectory that is in the acadmap search path and I
> tried
> (load "filename")
> and
> (load "c:\\acadmap\\lisp\\filename")
> and
> (load "c:/acadmap/lisp/filename")
> 
> I put the load instructions at the front, center, and end of the file
> without any success. Am I doing something real stupid here or does
> AutoCAD Map not allow autoloading of lisp routines the same as R13?
> BTW, there is absolutely no reference to AutoLISP, LISP, LOAD, or any
> other such topic in the manuals???
> 
> If it matters her setup is PPro180 64mgs RAM NT3.51. I would
> appreciate any help.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Dave Jones ddp@awwwsome.com
> from lovely downtown Burney, CA
I have been using the file 'ACAD.LSP' to load my custom AutoLISP
routines into AutoCAD MAP and it is working just fine.
Tom Brownell@CADP

Dennis Shinn wrote:
> 
> Sam Flarity  wrote:
> 
> >It may be a picky point but isn't this one of the purposes of ADE, It
> >seems to me
> >that I can work on multiple drawings at one time.
> 
> That could well be, Sam. I don't use ADE. But the question involved having the
> ability to open multiple drawings in a single session of AutoCAD per se.
> 
> I was under the impression that ADE merely "read in" data from drawings to
> produce a subset or superset of drawing information. But that's as far as my
> knowlege of it goes. I would welcome a better description of how it works,
> especially if it does indeed offer mulitple drawing access in a single session
> of AutoCAD.
> 
> Dennis Shinn
> Seattle AutoCAD User Group
> SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
> CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
I think the wording of your question has drawn the ADE response into the
picture.  I believe what you want to know is how you can have multiple
drawings opened in different AutoCAD windows.  You simply need to start
another copy of AutoCAD.  AutoCAD is not a true multiple document app
like Word or Excel, but you can have multiple instances of ACAD running
and drag and drop between them.  
ADE will simple let you bring entities from multiple drawings into the
current AutoCAD drawing window, not allow multiple drawings in multiple
windows.
Tom Brownell@CADP

cheyenne@servtech.com (Rodd & Karen Hoffman) wrote:
>I've recently purchased a HP7475A plotter for home use, does anyone
>know of a good source for pens and media ?
>Rodd Hoffman
>Rodd & Karen Hoffman
>cheyenne@servtech.com
Contact:
Numeridex, Inc.
241 Holbrook Drive
Wheeling, IL 60090
1-800-323-7737
They carry pens and media for your HP7475A plotter. They have a variety of pens
including the ceramic style which we found worked quite well in our HP7475A
plotter. They also have a 24# Ultra Bond media which gives excellent plots.
(If you don't already have a program, I also recommend a Plotting program such
as AutoPlot, or you will go mad waiting for plots.)
Sincerely,
Robert S. Carroll
rscarr@ix.netcom.com

Hello everybody,
thx to read my news page.
I have been using Autocad for a few years with succes in various topics
as building, mechanical,electrical engineering.
I never tried to investigate about the limit of autocad but I'm
wondering if a way to be more professionnal in my work would exist!!?
Is LISP my solution? How to know how to apply these "routine" to inprove
my daily work? What can I do with LISP?
Which would be the best self-taught way to learn LISP?
thanks for any inputs,
Fabrizio.

Andrew Nowicki  wrote:
>Does anyone know how I can get hold of this scoundrel?
The standard format for most email to people at Autodesk is
first.last@autodesk.com. You could try carol.bartz@autodesk.com for starters.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction

I am trying to move and edit text in R13c4 from an old ACAD R12 Windows
drawing and the text editing and moving is taking forever.  Is anyone
else having this proble?
My machine is a 133 MHZ Pentium w/ 32 RAM and 3.2 Gig

Am Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:27:01 GMT schrieb Brian Shelley (bshelley@ntr.net) :
> When in AutoCAD R13c4a under WinNT4.0,  I find that I lose my mapping
> to the network occasionally when opening a new file or when inserting
> a wblock.  I found that I can get around this by clicking the
> "network" button and then clicking "ok" and it resets the mapping to
> the network.  This problem only occurs in Acad - not any other
> software.
> This is a nuisance problem.  Does anyone know how to correct this one?
Same for me, it even works when clicking the "network" button and
then "cancel".
--
MfG..Hocky
/** Thorsten Hock - PC-Guru at University of Paderborn
/**
/** E-Mail: hocky@uni-paderborn.de  (privat)
/**         pcgurus@uni-paderborn.de

Fabrizio Croce wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> thx to read my news page.
> 
> I have been using Autocad for a few years with succes in various topics
> as building, mechanical,electrical engineering.
> I never tried to investigate about the limit of autocad but I'm
> wondering if a way to be more professionnal in my work would exist!!?
> Is LISP my solution? How to know how to apply these "routine" to
> inprove my daily work? What can I do with LISP?
> Which would be the best self-taught way to learn LISP?
> 
> thanks for any inputs,
> 
> Fabrizio.
Hi Fabrizio,
Menu macro's and LISP are the key to making AutoCAD a productive tool *for your 
environment*.  Right out of the box, AutoCAD it is ok for learning CAD but if you 
want to really make it work for you rather than you working at it, you need to 
customize it.   This takes time but so does learing to walk.  Take it one step at 
a time and don't pressure yourself to try writing major programs at the start.  If 
you know another programming language, try to find complimentary commands to the 
ones you already know how to use.  There will be some differences.  In addition, 
you can write LISP functions to simulate other language commands.  For example, in 
BASIC there is a command RTRIM$ which is handy for removing trailing spaces in 
text.  LISP dosn't have this so I wrote a LISP version.
One of the real advantages in programming is learning descipline and the logic 
required to accomplish a task.  As far as improving your daily work goes, the sky 
is the limit.  With the tools I have written, I can do a days work in a few hours.
Here are some of the things that I can do using LISP programs I have written;
-> AutoDimension a plate with 100+ holes in it.
-> Plot all detail drawings in a layout drawing automatically.
-> Plot a subdirectory of drawings automatically.
-> Extract title block data to a dBaseIII database, manual and automatic.
-> View, open, xref, plot, etc via a database.  Since rev 9.
-> SemiAuto apply Balloon numbers to detail drawing.  When I pick the entity, the 
program finds the associated BOM line and fills in the item number.
-> SemiAuto apply drawing notes to tapped, counterbore, countersunk, etc holes.  
When I pick the symbol, the program selects the appropriate note and enters the 
standard data.
....
This has taken years to learn but it has been well worth it.
Cheers,
Lu
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//  When all else fails, read the book.
//  CAD\Tek Home Page: http://www.cad-tek.com
//------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a large network of Win95 PC's running R13c4a.  They are
attached to a Novell 3.12 Network. 
How do I tell Win95 about the plotter.  And where can I get a Win95
Plotter driver for an HP 7595B (Draftmaster RX/SX)
Assuming a Win95 driver is available, I can then use SystemPrinter???
If a Win95 driver is NOT avail.  Then how do I tell R13 how to print.
Please do not tell me to go to Autodesk Web page.  Been there did not
find what I need.
Thanks
Chris Christenson
CC Systems & Software
cgchris@ix.netcom.com

Gerhard - So what you're saying is that you don't really
care about the millions of dollars in lost productivity,
that it has costed Autodesk customers as a result of thier
choosing to 'upgrade' to R13 ?
I have documented several cases detailing exactly how much
it has cost a number of early (and late) adopters, and in 
some cases, the figures are significant - enough to buy
more than a few additional seats.
I hope that some day we will have trade and commerce laws 
that can be used to more-precisely define the meaning of 
"defective" as applied to software products.
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
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Gerhard Reithofer  wrote in article
...
> On 17 Dec 1996, Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> 
> > For all of you customers, and "partners" who feel that you were screwed
by
> > Autodesk last year, why don't you drop Carol a little note and give her
> > your thoughts on this.
> 
> Why? She only takes the money which is given to her!
> (CAD)System desicions are religious.
> 
>   "Years ago people believed in God.
>      Now they believe in Bill Gates."
> H. P. Heinzel 
>   (died 1996)    
> 
> +---------------------- T.B.Reithofer ---------------+-----------+
> | Gerhard Reithofer Technical Sofware Developement   | Developer |
> |                   Registered Autodesk Developer    |   A N D   |
> |                   Mechanical Design & Construction | Poweruser |
> |  +-----------------------+---------------------+------------------+
> | / Email tbr_laa@aon.at  / Phone +43-2522/8726 / CIS 100141,1024  /  
> |/ Mobile +43-663/089747 / Fax +43-2522/87268  / PAN 912516323    /
> +-----------------------+---------------------+------------------+
> 
> 
> 

I wouldn't go so far as to call her a Scoundrel. I'm sure
that she's very nice person, and this is not about anyone's
personality, it's about their bank account 
My 'beef' if you can call it that, is strictly business,
not personal.
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
/*******************************************************/
Andrew Nowicki  wrote in article
<32B63D8E.2BE5@isd.net>...
> Does anyone know how I can get hold of this scoundrel?
> 

in the following DCL segment, 20 characters are reserved for text;
: concatenation {
    : text_part { label = "Material:"; }
    : text_part { key = "material"; label = "                    "; }
}
This is the data passed to the key, "material";    STEEL, .2500, 1/4"
and this is what is displayed in the window;       STEEL,
What happened to the balance of the text?  It works fine in r12, 
mono/system text.  I have tried to find a setting in windows 95 to set 
all displayed text to a mono spaced text.  I have reviewed both r12 
and r13 manuals for a DCL command that specifies a text font.  I cant 
find anything.  This problem is really getting annoying because I have 
other programs that are screwed up due to proportional text fonts.  
Any help would be greatly appreciated;
Lu
//------------------------------------------------------------------
//  When all else fails, read the book.
//  CAD\Tek Home Page: http://www.cad-tek.com
//------------------------------------------------------------------

This is probably a basic question, but I couldn't find any answer
from the manual and online-help.  I hope someone can answer...
I use R13c3 and have several architectural drawings.  What I want
to do is to paint out the inside of all walls.  Now all walls are
drawn by lines, but I have to fill it by black.
It sounds very simple task, but I couldn't figure out how to do it
efficiently.  The drawings contain a lot of walls in different shapes,
and they are too complicated to use Solid-Fill method for each wall.
I also considered using Hatch, but there is no hatch pattern to fill 
it with just black.
I changed the wall lines to polylines and used Fill command and set it
on, but nothing happened.
How can I do this task most efficiently?  Or, I have to fill each wall
manually? 
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks a lot in advance.
-- 
Junji Hata, Los Angeles
jhata@sure.net

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> > albert einstein wrote:
> > > Is AutoDESK Certification worth the time and expense?
Howard Breen wrote:
> I believe Don has not understood the question that Eienstein asked....
Yes Paul, I failed to see the DESK in AutoDESK and made the presumptious
error that Mr. Einstein was referring to AutoCAD Certification in
general.  Smack!  I stand corrected...
-- 
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Facilities Planning & Design
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In article <5951se$2vd@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu>, schroedn@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu (nathan schroeder) says:
>
>I am working on a theatre lighting project, and have come across the following
>problem:  I need to show lighting instruments hung at various angles, but I
>want the text associated with them to always be right-side up.  More 
>specifically, I am importing blocks and rotating them, but I want a script to
>clean up the text after (and after any changes) I'm done placing it.
>
>Does anyone have any solutions or ideas?  I am familiar with LISP, and quickly
>learning AutoLisp, but this one seemed a little tricky so I thought I'd ask.
>
>Thanks in advance for any and all input!
>Nate
>
>schroedn@cs.colostate.edu
I assume the text is an attribute of the block.  The following pauses for 
attribute value input.  Either add the correct number of pauses or change 
ATTREQ to 0 to use default values (setvar "ATTREQ" 0).
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
(defun C:ATTINSERT ()
   (setq  *error* errhand)
   (command ".INSERT" pause pause "" "" pause)
   (command ".ATTEDIT" "" "" "" "" "L" "A" "0" "")
   (setq *error* nil)
   (princ)
)
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________________________________
Michael Rounds, Computer Aided Design Manager          ay665@freenet.uchsc.edu
Hoover Berg Desmond, Architects                                    hbd@csd.net
Denver, Colorado, USA                  For true multitasking, try orienteering

Hi Guys,
I was wondering do you have (or know where I can get ) the source for displaying a DXF file ? I am really looking to display this in Delphi (a 32-bit RAD. It uses Object Pascal as it underlying programming language) but I guess C(++) will also do.
I really hope you can help me out.
TIA !
Ronan van Riet
vanriet@worldaccess.nl
4921781@ibk.fnt.hvu.nl

I am looking for someone who can do Micrografx Designer training in the
Washington, DC area.  Please emai me if you know of anyone . Thanks
Grady Tucker

I came to know that if there is some configuration problem in ACAD 13 FOR windows,
certain commands like 3DSOUT and rendering will not work and error messages like "AXP 
failed" will appear.
I would like to know the web site addresses where the methods to tackle such problems 
are given.
Thanks,
Babu
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