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Subject: Re:AcadR13c4ah help failure -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Looking for Corel to Autocad conversion -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Network lock error -- From: Matt Foreman
Subject: Eaglepoint data collection -- From: Richard
Subject: Re: Canon BJC-4550 autocad drivers? -- From: rscarr@ix.netcom.com (Robert S. Carroll)
Subject: New Low Cost Version AutoCAD R13 **FREE CATALOG** -- From: journey@ingress.com (JOURNEY)
Subject: Network lock error -- From: mforeman@bigred.unl.edu (Matt Foreman)
Subject: AutoCAD LT add-ons -- From: James Padgett
Subject: Printing with NT -- From: Perry Hock
Subject: Plotting Rendered Drawings. -- From: storagecad@aol.com (STORAGECAD)
Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad -- From: rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state (ralphus)
Subject: Re: ARXLOAD trouble -- From: storagecad@aol.com (STORAGECAD)
Subject: Network printing to jetdirect -- From: Chris Haney
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ? -- From: Tim Kirwan
Subject: Dialogue Box Programming -- From: Colin Browning
Subject: Learning AutoCAD -- From: Jennifer Niebergall
Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ? -- From: dave lawson <71202.1577@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: NEED HELP...HOW CAN I FILL THE WALLS? -- From: JAS - Global Village
Subject: ARXLOAD -- From: "Bjorn Sleypen"
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ? -- From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Subject: Re: Cancel Command?? -- From: duhvinci@rockford.com (Patrick Hughes)
Subject: Re: Re:LISP QUESTION -- From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Subject: Re: Bartz #3 on Highest-paid Women CEO's list -- From: rkirstine@micron.com (Rodney Kirstine)
Subject: metric to english conversion -- From: Jill Hahl
Subject: metric to english -- From: Jill Hahl
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ? -- From: Scott Drager
Subject: Calcomp Techjet driver -- From: "Tim Bridge"
Subject: Re: Internal Error -- From: Aleks Hunter
Subject: Re: Bartz #3 on Highest-paid Women CEO's list -- From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ? -- From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Subject: regions and solids and hideplot -- From: pointpre
Subject: Re: Custom Menu Button; where is the pic? -- From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Subject: Re: Learning AutoCAD -- From: pointpre
Subject: Re: Want ACAD R13 -- From: Dave Geesaman
Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad -- From: doug_mckean@paragon-networks.com (Doug)
Subject: Slide with a MFC dialog -- From: "Graphic System"
Subject: Re: Network lock error -- From: apt@cix.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Subject: Re: Volume - 3d Mesh -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: Re: Milwaukee WI Users Group -- From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Subject: I need to be able to select multiple drawings for plotting unattended??? -- From: CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM (Chris Christenson)

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Subject: Re:AcadR13c4ah help failure
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 06:55:22 -0800
sgbaker@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Simon Baker") wrote:
>Recently installed system gives Winhelp O failed error when
>help requested Online help in opening folder works fine.
>Checked paths preferences etc. Using WfWg 3.11 32M RAM
>Pentium 150
>Suggestions?
>
>Simon Baker
>GAS Electronic Systems  - London UK
Simon,
I have not seen this error. But I would suggest you to try installing the
AutoCAD again after deleting the earlier installation.
Meanwhile I will also check out this problem.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:Looking for Corel to Autocad conversion
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 06:56:20 -0800
irwin004@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Robbo) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>  Can anyone recomend the best way to convert Corel Draw (.cdr) files
>into Autocad (.dwg or .dxf) files so that the text gets converted as
>text?
>  When I convert the files (which have a lot of text) into Autocad, I
>have to retype all of the text so that it is recognized as text and
>not just a bunch of lines.
>  Are there any utilities or tricks to avoid this?
>
>Thanks,
>  Robbo
>
Robbo,
Use the PASTECLIP command in R13 and select the option as AutoCAD Entities,
which will convert the portion to AutoCAD text entities. However you must
have the text as one step while copying it to the clipboard and the objects
as another step .This works fine with R13c4.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Network lock error
From: Matt Foreman
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:41:15 -0600
I am a helpdesk consultant at the University of Nebraska who is trying 
to help a student install ACAD r13c4.  He has done about 10 
reinstalls, and we did one here in the office, with the same result:
'FATAL ERROR: Network lock error. No nework license servers on 
network. Network lock device is not functioning or is improperly 
installed.'
We wre installing on an IBM 365X laptop machine that is not connected 
to a network at the helpdesk office, but can be connected to the 
College of Arch. network.
Any suggestions that will help us get this running?
I will post responses, please e-mail if possible to 
mforeman@unlinfo.unl.edu.
Thank you 
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Subject: Eaglepoint data collection
From: Richard
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:53:00 -0800
Hello!
I have been having a problem with the scaling in my Eaglepoint / Acadr13 
drawing, and tech support tells me there is no way to change scaling 
factors for blocks globally.  Here are some of the specifics on my 
problem:
Project parameters:  1:500 metric with plot output to 11x17 (ltscale 1.59
What are the global scale factors affecting blocks (project manager 
scale, scale multiplier) and patterned lines(project manager scale? 
distance)?  What are the global scale factors affecting the blocks placed 
on lines defined in patterned lines (scale inside the patterned line 
definition)?
1.	Currently, when we specify a distance for block placement along a 
"pattern line" Eaglepoint draws the line and places the block 1/2 the 
specified distance.  for example:
	-  1.0 defined = .5 drawing units along the line
	-  5.0 defined = 2.5 drawing units along the line
	-  .8 defined = .4 drawing units along the line
2.	Ultimate size of all blocks(independent blocks affected by scale 
multiplier and what else? - Data Collection Tutorial p.DC-15).
Any assitance you can offer will be greatly appreciated!
Richard
rjmoss@gj.net
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Subject: Re: Canon BJC-4550 autocad drivers?
From: rscarr@ix.netcom.com (Robert S. Carroll)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:09:55 GMT
rscarr@ix.netcom.com (Robert S. Carroll) wrote:
>martineng@aol.com (MARTIN ENG) wrote:
>>I'm looking for a Canon BJC-4550 driver that will work with Autocad R12
>>Dos!
>>The BJC-4550 is a relatively new plotter/printer which advertises toward
>>the Autocad user, however, Canon does not support with the much needed
>>drivers!
>>I have contacted Canon and they suggest Autodesk is responsible for
>>supporting the BJC-4550.  Who can help me?
>>MARTIN ENG@AOL.COM
>Select the Canon Bubble Jet driver and it will give you a list of Canon
>printers. Configure for the BJC 600 printer.
Martin,
I wanted to appologize to you (and anyone else who read the above post), you
need to configure AutoCad for the BJC 800 printer, not the BJC 600 which I
posted.
Sincerely,
Robert S. Carroll
rscarr@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: New Low Cost Version AutoCAD R13 **FREE CATALOG**
From: journey@ingress.com (JOURNEY)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 19:48:07 GMT
Addison-Wesley's "Autodesk Collection - DESIGN AND DRAFTING, RELEASE 13"
is now available to qualified US/Canadian degree-seeking college
students.  Includes full version of AutoCAD Release 13 (c4a) and
AutoVision 2.0.  Includes electronic documentation only - no books. 
CD-ROM format.  This product is non-upgradeable and is for educational use
only.  For pricing and ordering information or to receive a FREE Student
Software Guide (catalog), email Journey Education Marketing at:
Journey@ingress.com.  (Include postal address if requesting a catalog). 
OR.... visit Journey's Web Site at: www.JourneyEd.com.
JOURNEY EDUCATION MARKETING
1-800-874-9001
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Subject: Network lock error
From: mforeman@bigred.unl.edu (Matt Foreman)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 19:22:32 GMT
I am a helpdesk consultant at the University of Nebraska who 
is trying to help a student install Autocad r13c4.  The student 
has done at least 10 reinstalls, and we did one here in the office.  
Attempts to run the program result in the message:
FATAL ERROR: Network lock error.  No network license servers on 
network. Network lock device is not functioning or is improperly 
installed.
The computer is an IBM 365X laptop running Win95.  We are using the 
single user version and the hardware lock is correctly installed.  We 
are not attempting to install or use the program over a network.
Any suggestions that will help us get this program running?
Thanks
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Subject: AutoCAD LT add-ons
From: James Padgett
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:16:06 -0200
Straight Forward Software has recently released Plan Master LT, a full
featured architectural plan, elevation and sectioning program that runs
in AutoCAD LT. If you are interested in more information, see our web
pages at  http://www.maui.net/~ajp/
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Subject: Printing with NT
From: Perry Hock
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:16:41 -0500
I am new to NT as well as r13.  I Purchased this from school so I can't
get tech support.
What I need to know is how to set computer/acad r13 so I can print on my
deskjet 600c or (660c as NT sees it).
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Subject: Plotting Rendered Drawings.
From: storagecad@aol.com (STORAGECAD)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 19:45:28 GMT
I am currently running Autocad R13c4a with Windows 95.
My plotter is HP Design Jet 330 upgraded to a 350c.
I would like to plot a final drawing with an elevation, floor plan and a
3D view that is rendered all on the same sheet of paper.  I would like to
know what I need in order to do this.  
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Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad
From: rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state (ralphus)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 19:52:03 GMT
I am the original poster in this thread.  I can afford autocad for dos. 
If I have autocad, can additional electrical engineering symbol libraries
be added at a reasonable price to allow autocad to function as a decent
electrical engineering cad for a hobbyist or should a cad that is
specially created for electrical diagrams be used?
responses appreciated.
rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
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Subject: Re: ARXLOAD trouble
From: storagecad@aol.com (STORAGECAD)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 20:03:49 GMT
After using the trial version of Autovision I had the same problem when I
tried to load the licenced version of Autovision.  After many long hours
of pulling my hair out (mine and my support rep's hair) I simply loaded my
trail version from my AutoCad CD and entered my new licence number when
prompted and it has been running great since then.  I hope this works for
you.
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Subject: Network printing to jetdirect
From: Chris Haney
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:12:38 -0500
I installed r13 for win95 but can't configure it to print to a jetdorect
laserjet on our Novell 3.12 network. Can anyone email me the steps I
need to take?
Chris Haney
Neste Resins Corp
chaney@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: Tim Kirwan
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:17:56 -0700
i think "Tony Tanzillo" has finally lost his mind, the merger between
autodesk and softdesk is the best thing that could possibly happen to
our industry. finally software wannabe's like eaglepoint will have to
stop making an inferior product and go back where they came from.
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Subject: Dialogue Box Programming
From: Colin Browning
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:07:05 -0800
Browning Computer Documentation (that's me folks) publishes a useful book 
plus disc on Programming Dialogue Boxes (for AutoCAD release-12 and 
higher)...
You can check out details on my web site at:
http://www.prestel.co.uk/bcd
Merry Xmas to all,
Colin Browning
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Subject: Learning AutoCAD
From: Jennifer Niebergall
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:09:43 -0800
Hi,
Does anyone have any suggestions for learning CAd?  I have a background 
in Canvas and Adobe products, mostly illustrator...any good books out 
there?
Thanks,
Jennifer
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Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ?
From: dave lawson <71202.1577@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:11:10 -0800
Rob Russell wrote:
> 
> Glenn Thomson bashed its head on a keyboard, resulting in:
> : I'd like to know what locomotive engineers and stationary engineers call
> : themselves in your part of Ontario, then.
> 
> As in the rest of Canada, "locomotive engineers" call themselves
> "hoggers."  As a P.Eng with the railway, my father always went out of his
> way to correct people that called them engineers by telling them it was
> pronounced differently (ingin-eers or something) but they call themselves
> hoggers.
> 
> Whether it is common practice or not, still doesn't make it right.  The
> PEO (and other organizations) should make more of an effort to dissuade
> the improper use of the term "engineer."
> 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Robert Russell         \ /              Rob_Russell@Ottawa.Com
> Carleton University x--o8o--x       2nd Year, Mech & Aero Eng.
> http://wabakimi.carleton.ca/~rrussell
> Director of Publications, Carleton Student Engineering Society
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> "No harm was done to my mental well-being."  --  erdem@engsoc
It sounds like hoggers is a pretty good term for engineers.
Dave
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Subject: Re: NEED HELP...HOW CAN I FILL THE WALLS?
From: JAS - Global Village
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:37:56 -0800
ummm... "solid" would be the logical answer...
-- 
JAS
mailto:jas@shocking.com
http://www.shocking.com/~jas
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Subject: ARXLOAD
From: "Bjorn Sleypen"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 20:58:30 GMT
I've got problems to render. Every time I want to render something, I
always get the same message: Unable to execute render ; Arxload failed.
Can anyone help me ?
Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 21:05:36 GMT
Thanks for making my point even more clear.
The inferiority of most AutoCAD-based applications lies in
the long-neglected shortcomings of the underlying platform 
(AutoCAD), not in the add-on applications. If you think that
Softdesk's AutoArchitect is technologically advanced, then
you are a victim of your own ignorance.
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
/*******************************************************/
Tim Kirwan  wrote in article <32B6FFF4.7BE1@eazy.net>...
> i think "Tony Tanzillo" has finally lost his mind, the merger between
> autodesk and softdesk is the best thing that could possibly happen to
> our industry. finally software wannabe's like eaglepoint will have to
> stop making an inferior product and go back where they came from.
> 
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Subject: Re: Cancel Command??
From: duhvinci@rockford.com (Patrick Hughes)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:02:37 GMT
With adroit appendages floating frantically athwart the
electromechanical ciphering device <"Tim Bridge" >
endeavored to convey the supervening erudition to the espying public:
>I have just started to use ver13 for Win 95 and I have found that I cannot
>use the cancel command anymore. The Control+C is now the same as all other
>windows commands, COPY. I have looked in help about the changed and deleted
>commands and found nothing.
>Is there something I am missing or is there a new Cancel command?
>Thanks for any help.
>-- 
>Tim
>TKBridge@cris.com
Tim,
In addition to the other replies - you can configure r13 to respnd to
a control+c to issue a cancel, its
Preferences/System/Keystrokes/Classic
Also, if you did a full install you should have a "What's new" tour
that will detail many of the differences.
-- 
Patrick Hughes
Engineered Design Solutions
e-mail duhvinci@rockford.com
homepage http://www.rockford.com/duhvinci
--------------------------------------------------
* Machine design, detail & build
* Cam design & manufacturing
* Machine animation
--------------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: Re:LISP QUESTION
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 21:12:53 GMT
Is this the best you can do?
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
/*******************************************************/
G Rajesh  wrote in article
<596c2u$e95@lex.zippo.com>...
> "Syrinx"  wrote:
> 
> 
> >This part of my lisp file is used to build a list of
> >layers to fill a pop-up box in a dialog box.
> >
> >How can I make this list EXCLUDE frozen layers ??
> >
> >          ;;;Create list of layers
> >
> >             (setq lnlist nil lboxlist nil)
> >             (setq llist (tblnext "layer" T))
> >              (while llist
> >                (setq lname (cdr (assoc 2 llist)))
> >                (setq lnlist (append lnlist (list lname)))
> >                (setq llist (tblnext "layer"))
> >              )
> >             (if lnlist (setq lnlist (acad_strlsort lnlist)))
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >--
> >
> >R.K. McSwain
> >yyz@hic.net
> >
> >
> 
> You can check for the DXF CODE 70 for finding out whether this layer is
> frozen , thawed or locked.
> 
> G.Rajesh
> //Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
> 
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Subject: Re: Bartz #3 on Highest-paid Women CEO's list
From: rkirstine@micron.com (Rodney Kirstine)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:25:59 GMT
"Tony Tanzillo"  wrote:
>   Working Woman magazine's 1996 list of the 20 best paid women in
>corporate America, as compiled from public companies' reports.
>
>   1. Linda Wachner -- chairwoman, CEO of Warnaco Group, $11.16 million.
>   2. Jill Barad -- CEO of Mattel. $6.17 million.
>   3. Carol Bartz -- chairwoman, CEO and president of Autodesk. $5.51
>million.
-clip-
The company I work for had a net profit of 590 million on gross sales
of 3.7 billion last year and our CEO made under 2 million (including
bonus & stock).  For the same year, Autodesk netted 87 million on
gross sales of 530 million and look at what Carol Bartz made.
Apparently our company is way under paying our CEO???
Rodney Kirstine
Mechanical Engineer
Systems Integration, A Division of Micron Technology
rkirstine@micron.com
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Subject: metric to english conversion
From: Jill Hahl
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:43:34 -0500
Working on AutoCAD 13:
I am trying to convert a file from metric to english units.  The drawing 
is fully dimensioned.  Is there a way to do this?
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Subject: metric to english
From: Jill Hahl
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:51:07 -0500
I don't know if I am working with this Newsgroup correctly, so this is a 
second message in case my first did not go through.
I was sent AutoCAD 13 files by ftp from Ankara Turkey.  These files are 
in dimensioned in metric and need to be dimensioned in English.  Is 
there a way to change the entire file from metric to english - possibly 
using a singe (or series) of commands?  Could you please send the reply 
to my email account - hahlj@idol.union.edu.
I have already tried using the fax line and received instructions on how 
to do this using AutoCAD LT - this is of little use, however, because I 
am working on AutoCAD 13.  
Thank you.
Jill Hahl
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Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: Scott Drager
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:12:28 -0600
Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> 
> Thanks for making my point even more clear.
> 
> The inferiority of most AutoCAD-based applications lies in
> the long-neglected shortcomings of the underlying platform
> (AutoCAD), not in the add-on applications. If you think that
> Softdesk's AutoArchitect is technologically advanced, then
> you are a victim of your own ignorance.
> 
> --
> /*******************************************************/
> /*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
> /*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
> /* --------------------------------------------------- */
> /*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
> /*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
> /* --------------------------------------------------- */
> /*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
> /* --------------------------------------------------- */
> /*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
> /*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
> /*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
> /*******************************************************/
> 
> Tim Kirwan  wrote in article <32B6FFF4.7BE1@eazy.net>...
> > i think "Tony Tanzillo" has finally lost his mind, the merger between
> > autodesk and softdesk is the best thing that could possibly happen to
> > our industry. finally software wannabe's like eaglepoint will have to
> > stop making an inferior product and go back where they came from.
> >
Let's bite the hand that feeds us, huh?
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Subject: Calcomp Techjet driver
From: "Tim Bridge"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 21:25:16 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get a driver for the Calcomp TechJET Personal
11x17 plotter, for ACAD R13 for Win 95?
Thanks
-- 
Tim
TKBridge@cris.com
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Subject: Re: Internal Error
From: Aleks Hunter
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 16:37:30 -0800
G Rajesh wrote:
> 
> wil plunkett  wrote:
> 
> >does anyone know what a !DBSPACE.CC3 means and how to fix it....it wont
> >let me open up a drawing that is 8.9 mb   I need this fast.......
> >
> >Also...i renamed the back up file and it jus twont open....I have never
> >figured out how to open up these bak files
> >
> >
> 
> Wil,
> 
> You have not said the error message fully.However please take a look at
> the Autodesk technical support section for a similar error message at
> 
> http://www.autodesk.com/techdoc/techdocs.htm
> 
> Please let me know in case it didn't help.
> 
> G.Rajesh
> //Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
Hey G.,
You may want to try that URL yourself and read the error message that
comes up.
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Subject: Re: Bartz #3 on Highest-paid Women CEO's list
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 21:40:37 GMT
Depends on your point of view. If you consider it from
the perspective of what the #2 person at Walt Disney 
was given as "severence" pay (~90,000,000), then all US
CEO's are grossly underpaid.
I don't believe that any executive should be rewarded for
causing their customers massive amounts of grief and millions
of dollars in lost productivity, by deliberately releasing
a product which they knew all too well was unfit for market.
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
/*******************************************************/
Rodney Kirstine  wrote in article
<32b6f1e8.105933444@news.micron.com>...
> "Tony Tanzillo"  wrote:
> 
> >   Working Woman magazine's 1996 list of the 20 best paid women in
> >corporate America, as compiled from public companies' reports.
> >
> >   1. Linda Wachner -- chairwoman, CEO of Warnaco Group, $11.16 million.
> >   2. Jill Barad -- CEO of Mattel. $6.17 million.
> >   3. Carol Bartz -- chairwoman, CEO and president of Autodesk. $5.51
> >million.
> 
> -clip-
> 
> The company I work for had a net profit of 590 million on gross sales
> of 3.7 billion last year and our CEO made under 2 million (including
> bonus & stock).  For the same year, Autodesk netted 87 million on
> gross sales of 530 million and look at what Carol Bartz made.
> Apparently our company is way under paying our CEO???
> 
> Rodney Kirstine
> Mechanical Engineer
> Systems Integration, A Division of Micron Technology
> rkirstine@micron.com
> 
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Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 21:43:13 GMT
Which hand is that? The shortcomings of most AutoCAD add-on
applications is the fault of Autodesk vis a vis the long-term
neglect of it's programmable API's.
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
/*******************************************************/
Scott Drager  wrote in article
<32B70CBC.2C12@ix.netcom.com>...
> Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for making my point even more clear.
> > 
> > The inferiority of most AutoCAD-based applications lies in
> > the long-neglected shortcomings of the underlying platform
> > (AutoCAD), not in the add-on applications. If you think that
> > Softdesk's AutoArchitect is technologically advanced, then
> > you are a victim of your own ignorance.
> > 
> > --
> > /*******************************************************/
> > /*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
> > /*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
> > /* --------------------------------------------------- */
> > /*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
> > /*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
> > /* --------------------------------------------------- */
> > /*       Contributing Author, CADENCE Magazine         */
> > /* --------------------------------------------------- */
> > /*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
> > /*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
> > /*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
> > /*******************************************************/
> > 
> > Tim Kirwan  wrote in article
<32B6FFF4.7BE1@eazy.net>...
> > > i think "Tony Tanzillo" has finally lost his mind, the merger between
> > > autodesk and softdesk is the best thing that could possibly happen to
> > > our industry. finally software wannabe's like eaglepoint will have to
> > > stop making an inferior product and go back where they came from.
> > >
> Let's bite the hand that feeds us, huh?
> 
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Subject: regions and solids and hideplot
From: pointpre
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 16:06:08 -0800
i've been trying to find a good way to mask out the areas behind my text 
and have found that the easiest and most stable way to do this is to 
create regions around them and use the hidelines option in the plot menu, 
but now all my solids, fills, and plines with widths are nothing but 
outlines, does anyone know of a way around this. 
also on another subject, is there anyway to create a viewport in a shape 
besides a rectangle, maybe any pline? sometimes i think autodesk is way 
out of touch with what thier clients might really want.
any help would be greatly appreciated,
gerrit speulstra
pointpre@skylands.net
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Subject: Re: Custom Menu Button; where is the pic?
From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:24:43 GMT
On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:07:36 -0600, Jay Garnett
 wrote:
>This appears to be  a bug. I've had the same problem
>w/ c3 thru c4a.
>
>Somehow, when you reload AutoCAD after making toolbar changes,
>it decides to recompile the mns file, which tends to screw up the
>names of the button icons. You end up with either a smiley face
>or a blank button.
>Your best bet is to exit AutoCAD and manually edit the mns file
>yourself.
Thanks for the response, although I havent a clue how to do what you
suggest; 
Thank ye!
Tony
>
>Tony T wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I created some custom menu buttons in Acad, and they looked just
>> peachy. Only thing is, when I restarted Acad, they were blank; they
>> still work correctly, but there is no picture on them.
>> 
>> Anyone know what gives here?
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> AutocadLT 95 BTW>
>> 
>> ********************************
>> "Never laugh at live dragons..."
>> J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
>> *********************************
>
>-- 
>E-MAIL           jgarnett@enteract.com
>Homepage         http://www.enteract.com/~jgarnett/lispfactory.htm
>On-line Resume   http://www.enteract.com/~jgarnett/resume.htm
********************************
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J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
*********************************
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Subject: Re: Learning AutoCAD
From: pointpre
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 16:46:51 -0800
Jennifer Niebergall wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions for learning CAd?  I have a background
> in Canvas and Adobe products, mostly illustrator...any good books out
> there?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jennifer
since i'm not sure what program you want to learn (i'm assuming acad, 
since you posted here), i've found mastering autocad 13 by george omura 
published by sybex inc. to be the easiest to understand, a couple of the 
magazines that are devoted to cad have helped me once in a while such as 
cadence & cadalyst. still acad is a lot less user freindly than any of 
the graphics packages i've seen out there, so good luck
gerrit
pointpre@skylands.net
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Subject: Re: Want ACAD R13
From: Dave Geesaman
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:20:46 -0500
Brian Corbin wrote:
> 
> Ward Stockwell wrote:
> >
> > I need an Upgradable student copy of ACAD r13.  Does anyone where I
> > might find one?
> 
> There is no such thing as an upgradable student copy
	Actually, there is.  Autodesk sells a full educational version which
can be upgraded for a student-upgrade rate (provided one is still a
student).  When the owner graduates, etc., the difference in cost
between the acad. and the full version can then be paid to make it a
valid professional copy.  I have only ever seen this upgradeable version
at http://www.journeyed.com and their price is about $900 (US) for R13,
and $1400 for Mech. Desktop.  Autodesk also licenses to Addison-Wesley,
who sells R13 (not upgradeable) for about $350, and can be found at many
educational resellers.  All of these put those crippling "Educational
version" banners on the plots, which makes me happy I still use the
Student R12 version.	
	Dave
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Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad
From: doug_mckean@paragon-networks.com (Doug)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:22:20 -0500
In article , dated 
16 Dec 1996 16:06:58 GMT, ralphus of 
rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state broke his fingers while 
typing ---
->I have a father that wants an electrical engineering cad program (for win
->3.1 or dos) for xmas.  I know a lot about music and sound software but I
->don't have the faintest idea of what is out there in the realm of cad.  I
->have only $140 to spend and need something that will let him draw diagrams
->of circuit boards and such.  It doesn't have to be fancy, it just has to
->have symbols for capacitors and resistors etc.  I have looked around at
->computer software stores and just received blank looks from the workers
->(go figure).  If anyone can e-mail me a recomendation for an appropriate
->cad it will be much appreciated.  If you also have information on how to
->contact the company to order the software that will be doubly appreciated.
->
->Thanx in advance.
->
->rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
->
I'm not sure what application your father wants. 
Aside from what others have said, let me go the other way. 
You could get M-Cap (student version is about $50) at your 
nearest university that offers Electrical Engineering.  It 
not only offers a side range of symbols, but allows one 
(even at the student level) a degree of simulation.  The 
engine behind it is a Spice engine.  
Aside from this, student coops offer "student" versions 
of software which are really evaluation packages in 
disguise.  Take a walk around the software section of 
a University bookstore to see what's there.  If anything 
you'll get familiarized.  
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Subject: Slide with a MFC dialog
From: "Graphic System"
Date: 17 Dec 1996 20:47:53 GMT
Hi,
Anybody knows how can I put a slide or a R13 DWG's thumbnail in a MFC based
dialog?
Is it possible manipulate dwg's thumbnail programmaticaly?
I'm using MSVC++ 4.1 to develop ARX/MFC apps.
Thanks in advance,
Mauricio Ritzmann
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Subject: Re: Network lock error
From: apt@cix.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 23:04:55 GMT
In article <32B6E94B.6201@unlinfo.unl.edu>, mforeman@unlinfo.unl.edu (Matt 
Foreman) wrote:
> I am a helpdesk consultant at the University of Nebraska who is trying 
> to help a student install ACAD r13c4.  He has done about 10 
> reinstalls, and we did one here in the office, with the same result:
> 
> 'FATAL ERROR: Network lock error. No nework license servers on 
> network. Network lock device is not functioning or is improperly 
> installed.'
> 
> We wre installing on an IBM 365X laptop machine that is not connected 
> to a network at the helpdesk office, but can be connected to the 
> College of Arch. network.
> 
> Any suggestions that will help us get this running?
> 
> I will post responses, please e-mail if possible to 
> mforeman@unlinfo.unl.edu.
> 
> Thank you 
Despite the helpful error message, Autocad is actually telling you that it 
doesn't have a hardware lock plugged into the parallel port. The reason 
for this message is that if it can't find one plugged in the back, it 
looks for a network lock instead, and if it can't find one of them, it 
gives the error message.
Educational versions of Autocad are always supplied with a hardware lock.
Hope this helps....
Regards
Paul Taylor
(also mailed)
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Subject: Re: Volume - 3d Mesh
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:41:27 GMT
"François"  wrote:
>	I need to measure the volume of a "piece" which is limited in part by a 3d
>Mesh. Is it possible to do that in Autocad R.13? 
It's not possible using surface meshes. If the object were constructed with
solids you could extract mass properties, but not meshes, at least using native
AutoCAD commands.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: Re: Milwaukee WI Users Group
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:41:33 GMT
John Malotky  wrote:
>We are looking to form a group that is TRULY a users group, Not a sales
>tool for dealers etc.
John ... I don't question your motivation in the least but ....:
>-- 
>John Malotky
>AutoCAD, Windows NT, UNIX, TCP/IP expert.
>Innovative Computer Solutions
>http://www.execpc.com/~innovate
There's nothing wrong with dealer sponsorship of user groups. In fact we, SAUG
would probably not exist if it weren't for the support of the folks at Robert
McNeel & Associates. 
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
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Subject: I need to be able to select multiple drawings for plotting unattended???
From: CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM (Chris Christenson)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:19:49 GMT
Where can I find a utility that will allow me to select multiple
drawings and plot them unattended.  This is for R13 and Win95.
Thanks
Chris Christenson
CC Systems & Software
cgchris@ix.netcom.com
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