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Hi there...
I've got a problem, and I'm hoping that someone here may be able to help. 
Here's the situation...
- A mesh was created in Autocad (sorry- don't know the version- I believe it 
was 12)
- AME (which, I understand, means "Automatic Modeling Extension" or something 
like that) was used during the design
- Saved in acad as a .dxf file 
- I don't work in Autocad myself, so I don't know what parameters were used in 
saving it as .dxf
- I try to import it into 3dStudio r3, r4 and 3dMax, and no matter what I try 
(import as layers, colors, etc. etc.) I don't get a full mesh
- The mesh that I do get is the correct shape, but is missing a lot of faces. 
Eg. a flat surface, missing a triangular block section
- From what I understand, using AME in the design process is what screwed 
things up. True?
Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry if I couldn't supply you with more 
info- I am merely an animator ;)
Thanks in advance,
alan

Jill Hahl wrote:
> 
> I don't know if I am working with this Newsgroup correctly, so this is a
> second message in case my first did not go through.
> 
> I was sent AutoCAD 13 files by ftp from Ankara Turkey.  These files are
> in dimensioned in metric and need to be dimensioned in English.  Is
> there a way to change the entire file from metric to english - possibly
> using a singe (or series) of commands?  Could you please send the reply
> to my email account - hahlj@idol.union.edu.
> 
> I have already tried using the fax line and received instructions on how
> to do this using AutoCAD LT - this is of little use, however, because I
> am working on AutoCAD 13.
enter DDIM at the command line.  a dialog box will appear with many 
options affecting dimensions.  You will be able to apply a scale factor 
to the prime dimension units, or dual dimension in metric and english.
Then you must UPDATE all the dimensions.
Bob May

Problem : Cannot load v.large drawings into ACAD13 while running NT4 WS
Same files can be loaded into ACAD12 from Wfwg311 or Win95 using 
(P90,32Mb).
Computer Spec: NT4 WS, P166 64Mb RAM , 60M swap file
The drawing is a survey drawing of 19M incl xrefs of 10M & 8M.
In ACAD13, the drawing loads to 98% then stops. ACAD12 eventually loads 
drawing (3 to 4 times as long compared to using Wfwg). Once loaded there 
doesnt appear to be a problem.
We are about to embark upon a project where there will be several 
drawings of this size and a very tight deadline.
Any help or hints will be tried as we are getting desperate.....
TIA , Rob Gray    (PS Please reply to email as well as group)
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"Joseph Huang"  wrote:
>We are using R13c4a version, and so far having trouble trying to find out a
>way that we can just move or rotate a dimensioning text alone without
>effecting the rest of dimensioning. 
DDIM/FORMAT/NO LEADER
The No Leader option is in the pull down edit box in the upper left forner of
the Format sub dialog.
If you want a leader, select Leader instead.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction

> Does anyone have any suggestions for learning CAd?  I have a background 
> in Canvas and Adobe products, mostly illustrator...any good books out 
> there?
> 
Autocad is a highly technical program and not necessarily intuitive.  My
suggestion would be to find a local community college and take an
introductory course.  This will give you a good basis to work from.

Tim Kirwan wrote:
> i think "Tony Tanzillo" has finally lost his mind, the merger between
> autodesk and softdesk is the best thing that could possibly happen to
> our industry. finally software wannabe's like eaglepoint will have to
> stop making an inferior product and go back where they came from.
	ACAD+Softdesk is a sick bag of cheese compared to other architectural
	products I've seen. Bentley's uSTN+Triforma is far superior. Further,
	neither those two platforms hold half a candle to architecture-specific 
	packages like Arris.
	The problem I have with AutoCAD is in how little work Autodesk
	has done to really improve ACAD, and how much Adesk has tried
	to paper over it's cascade of mistakes with out actually solving
	problems. AutoCAD is still depressingly slow, R13 is *still* pretty
	buggy for something that's been updated ten times, Autodesk wants 
	their customers to go through the pain and humiliation of switching
	operating systems just so Autodesk can save some development money,
	etc, etc, etc...
	I know that Autodesk has capable employees. Autodesk has a product
	that could really fly with the right direction. Unfortunately,
	Autodesk also has a boardroom full of folks who seem to think that
	they are moving things in the right direction just because they have
        more installed seats than everybody else.
	IBM thought that, too.
	So did Apple.
	And GM.
	As did Douglas, about thirty years ago......
	MST

F**k off John & Jenny

My company has just bought a new HP DesignJet 350C Plotter and we are
having some trouble plotting to it over the network using AutoCAD 12.  The
plotter has a JetDirect External Server conected to it.  We can get the
computers to talk to the plotter, we just can't get AutoCAD to talk to the
plotter.
Can anyone give some advise?
Ryan,
howierk@aol.com

Hello Colin,
I've used both your Lisp & DCL books over the last few years and I 
have developed into a reasonable programmer, Keep up the good work!
Stephen_Tate@msn.com

After seeing full page ads for Selex plotters in the
last few Cadalyst magazines, I looked for them on the 
internet.  They sound good and cheap but I can't
find a dealer in the USA.  Anyone know of one?

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I assume what you want is a code protection program since there is no need
to compile LISP.  You can download one at
http://www.vmedia.com/vvc/onlcomp/autocad/software.html
it's called kelv.zip
ADNAN OZUTKU  wrote in article
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> 
> Hello,
> 
>  I'm locking for an (Auto)Lisp Compiler.
> Can you give me any usefull recommendations where I can download it.
>  I need it urgent.
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
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> Hello,
> 
> =
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> Can you give me =
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>  I =
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> 
> Thanks in advance, 
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Sam Flarity  wrote:
> 
>It may be a picky point but isn't this one of the purposes of ADE, It
>seems to me
>that I can work on multiple drawings at one time.  I've used this
>capability in
>ADE-1 for years and am now converting over to ADE-2 & ACADMAP.
The end result is the same, but as far as I understand it in ADE you
are not actually opening two drawings at the same time. You are
copying information from multiple drawing files into a new (or
existing) drawing and can then write back any changes to the source
drawings.
You still have only one drawing file open at a time.
I think this is slightly different from what Wayne was originally
asking, which I took to mean having two drawing displayed in separate
windows under a single session of AutoCAD.
But you're right...this is picky.
-Jim Fitzgerald

"doug"  wrote:
>Is it possible to duplicate(copy) objects from one layer to another?
>only way I know is to copy objects to original layer, then change
>properties to new layer, and finally, delete the first copy from the
>original layer.  Must be a better way.
Doug -
If you don't want the duplicate copies in the first place, why not just change
the properties period? I must be missing something here for not understanding
why you have to copy them before change their layer attribute.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction

Sunny Barker  wrote:
>                       (setq e (entget (ssname p l))))))
This returns "MTEXT", not "TEXT" which the routine is looking for.
Strings in an MTEXT object are held in a different manner than straight text.
This function won't work with MTEXT.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction

"David B. Boyles"  wrote:
>Is there a easy way to change elevation on 2d polyline?
CHANGE/PROP/ELEVATION
Only works if your current UCS is parallel to the plane of the polyline.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction

TLEW  wrote:
>What is a good autocad program I could use to accurately draw on a
>computer what we mapped in the field?
Will you be concerned with actual 3D documentation as well as the XY grid? You
can use AutoCAD LT for this which is considerably less expensive than AutoCAD.
There are a number of other low cost CAD programs available as well. Numera's
Visual CAD, FelixCAD, .... look around. In my humble yet closely held opinion,
AutoCAD would be overkill for what you're doing.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction

I'm looking for any good (ie. in depth) books on just Architectural use 
of AutoCad 13. Any help would be appreciated!
Frank

On Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:44:03 -0500, "Russell E. McKenna III"
 wrote:
>pappy wrote:
>> 
>> Just looking for anyone using Mechanical Desktop Designer w/Assembly Modeling.
>> Looking for comments/hints on the product
>> My company just purchased the product 3 weeks ago and have spent hours studying
>> the Manuals and the Training Set book (Which I think is very un-user friendly!)
>> The manuals are ok but the Training Set book (And cost $75.00) is crap!!
>> WE were offered a Training Class for $1,200 per person for 5 days!!
>> What a Ripoff!!
>> Don't get me wrong, the product is Great!! But the Books were written for
>> autocad Programers - Not users!!
>> Just want to hear from other users!!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Pappy
>
>Hey I would be glad to give you pointers when you have problems.  Just
>drop me a line via e-mail a0003690@airmail.net.
>
>The only way for you to learn, is to do it! Just allow yourself more
>time to learn.  Also realize that there are drawings that are made for
>2-d only and not economical to take into the 3-d world. I am from an
>aerospace background (Space Station, Atlas Rockets, F/A 18E). In that
>world they pushed 3d solids, but most of it could have been done in 2d
>at a much cheaper cost.  But, where would the Boeing 777 be it that was
>the case.  I do advocate 3d solids, but only when they make economical
>sense, not just so you can make a neat rendering.
>
>But when you get in a snag, drop me a line. I am assuming you are an
>experienced acad user and just new to desktop.
Russell,
Thanks for the reply.
You're right about just going for it and digging right in if you want
to learn.
I've spent alot of time (at work & at home)studying the books, going
over each
chapter over and over again and have progressed fairly well in the
past 5 weeks.
I've used autocad for the past 10 years and can remember the first
time I received the package (R2.1 I think it was) and what a learnig
curve that was!
My company manufactures Wire/Sheet metal products for various
customers.
And even though we are far from the aerospace area you'd be supprised
that alot
of companys are gearing towards 3D parametric design.
I do have a question for you. 
Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly
constraints to a
tangent arc/circle?
I sketch my subject, convert it into a profile, add constraints and
add dim's
but won't let me dimension a quadrant/tangent, only the center!
Need Help!!
Thanks,
Pappy
Even the Ref dimensions won't work. Is there any short cut commands?

On 17 Dec 1996 07:00:28 -0800, hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
wrote:
>Harold Stonebraker  wrote:
>
>>I am trying to move and edit text in R13c4 from an old ACAD R12 Windows
>>drawing and the text editing and moving is taking forever.  Is anyone
>>else having this proble?
>>
>>My machine is a 133 MHZ Pentium w/ 32 RAM and 3.2 Gig
>>
>>Any HELP would be greatly appriciated
>>
>>
>
>Sounds surprising. I never had problems like this. Check whether the fonts
>you are using are available in the right path . If you have substituted
>the fonts then it might take some time. But before confirming this , I would
>like to know the details from you.
>
>G.Rajesh
>//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
I'm having the same problem, I am using the standard fonts, and they
are located in the fonts directory under acadmap. I've been told it's
the whip display driver. I'm running a 90MHz Pettium with 64MB RAM

I have come into possession of a circa 1985 Kurta digitizer series one. When you have
stopped laughing, I would like to ask if there are any up to date drivers for this 
dinosaur? I'm interested in using this for graphic programs such as Photoshop or 
Paintshop Pro. Any help would be appreciated.
David White

Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly constraints to a
tangent arc/circle?
I sketch my subject, convert it into a profile, add constraints and add dim's
but won't let me dimension a quadrant/tangent, only the center!
Even the Ref dimensions won't work. Is there any short cut commands?
Need Help!!
Thanks,
Pappy

Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly constraints to a
tangent arc/circle?
I sketch my subject, convert it into a profile, add constraints and add dim's
but won't let me dimension a quadrant/tangent, only the center!
Even the Ref dimensions won't work. Is there any short cut commands?
Need Help!!
Thanks,
Pappy

I call upon the collective intelligence of this newsgroup to offer
some advice on purging in AutoCAD R13.
Can I purge without having to type "Y" and "enter" every time?  A
couple of times is OK, but typing it 100, 200, or even 500 times
stinks.
If I can't get it to automatically purge everything, can I at least
set the default at "Y" instead of "N", so I can just hit "enter"
instead of "Y" and then "enter"?
Any help would be appreciated!  Thanks in advance!
Just wishing for the one step purging days of old R12....
Howard Kuo
kuo@mindspring.com

I work for a small company that designs shelving and storage systems for 
various commercial needs.  I am an entry level employee who has found 
myself in a position that seems to boggle the minds of some very 
experienced AutoCad users.  I am alone in this company, the people who I 
work for and with are all sales-people who can offer no help.  They only 
demand perfection.
Enough of my whimpering....
My needs:
1-  Software and system requirments to make it possible to scan pictures 
into AutoCad and also allow me to edit the scanned pictures.  (We have 
an HP 4c scanner but when I scan pictures into the drawing the plotter 
does not recognize them and I am unable to manipulate objects within the 
scanned picture.)
2-  Software and system requirments to allow me to plot a drawing with a 
quality render as well as wire frame views on one sheet.  Example:  one 
sheet of paper - elevation view, plan view and a rendered view all 
within one border.  Sounds strange but we are trying to make our 
drawings appeal to customers who have a hard time visualizing pictures 
that are not realistic.  I also need to be able to place the rendered 
picture anywhere on my drawing and rotate it as needed.
So far I have had a very hard time finding any help.  These seem to be 
uncommon tasks.  We are willing to pay a resonble fee to a qualified 
person who can set me on the right path.
Please respond to storagecad@aol.com

Lachlan Gemmell  wrote in article
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> If anyone can give me some help with this problem I would
> greatly appreciate it. I'm a computer consultant mainly 
> specialising in Business Apps. I've been asked to look at a
> machine running AutoCAD v12 that is not performing to my clients
> satisfaction. The problem is that it apparently spends more time
> swapping out to the disk than it allows drawing time.
You really need a disk caching program, at least smartdrv or equivalent in
DOS, or a large permanent swap file if running Windows (2 to 3 times the
physical RAM in size).  More RAM is good too, but r12 performance really
doesn't improve much after memory is increased to 24MB or so.
Also, within AutoCAD type CONFIG then choose option 7 Configure operating
parameters. Next, change Placement of temporary files from  to C:\
so that you are not transferring data on the network that could be stored
locally.
Lastly, if you can load the AutoCAD software itself on the local hard
drive, as opposed to running it from the server, you will increase
performance, especially on a congested network.
John Schneeg
Monroe County Community College

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glenn.thomson@comdev.ca (Glenn Thomson) wrote:
>
>I'd like to know what locomotive engineers and stationary engineers call 
>themselves in your part of Ontario, then.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Glenn Thomson, P. Eng.
>
You've raised an interesting point but tell me this,  when was 
the last time you received a business card from a locomotive or 
stationary engineer?
In Canada,stationary engineering is a licensed trade. Stationary 
engineers have to pass an interprovincial exam to qualify.
Professional engineering statutes in Canada often include an 
exemption for stationary engineers.
Cheers,
T.Kwok

100124.1750@compuserve.com (Josef Hinterecker) wrote:
>Just an idea how this might be done:
>
>1. make the text you want to write a hidden attribute of the block
>2. reserve an additional hidden attribute for later use
>3. write a lisp program that extracts the text from your block, writes
>the text according your requirements, extracts the handle of this text
>and stores this handle as hidden attribute in the place provided for
>under 2. This program must also insert the block. 4. For modifications,
>write a lisp program that extracts the text handle from the block and
>erases the related text, then erases the block. 
BTW: It has to be said that this approach is stupid and useless.
The first follow-up showed how simple it is. (ATTREDEF ... ANGLE 0)
There's even no need for Lisp, a simple menu macro would do it too.
---
Reini Urban, TU Graz, Architecture & X-RAY
 http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/
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tmc3@gnn.com (albert einstein) wrote:
>Is there a software commercially availiable that will allow one to 
>"test" their knowledge of the AutoCAD commands and skills?
>
>Thanks for your time.
>
I've heard of a package called Self Evaluation from a company called
Hit Return Inc (www.hitreturn.com) which is a self-testing program for
AutoCAD. You can try to reach them at 415.969.2982. I've tried to call
them a couple of times but have never gotten an answer....hmmmm
-Jim Fitzgerald

	First The pro only 64 bit cache, but 32 arch-or data transfer..
	I have used, load, set them with NT 3.5.1 running smooth and great
	compare that to my current pentium 100 it loads  5s vs 2m...
	running with no problem..... I hope that help.
On 16 Dec 1996, Keven Roche wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We are looking at purchasing Penttium Pro's however I have not seen any bench 
> marks or other info for that matter on them in a cad enviroment.
> 
> My understanding is that they are 64 bit architecture, and was wondering if 
> any of you all have had any experience with them (good or bad) and it you had 
> any thoughts on the matter.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 

geoffb@wisdom.psinet.net.au (Geoff Burns) wrote:
>Is anyone running autocad on a Cyrix chip?  If so is anyone
>experiencing problems?
I am and have experienced no problems.
-Jim Fitzgerald

From what I've seen, AutoCAD by itself does not have the capability to
take advantage of multiple processors....However....NT loves to run on
multiple processors.  So the basic answer is acad=no,  acad/NT=yes.
Good Luck,
--
Brian Poppe 
The Henry Klein Partnership
hkp@ncia.com

Tony T  wrote in article
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> On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:07:36 -0600, Jay Garnett
>  wrote:
> 
> >This appears to be  a bug. I've had the same problem
> >w/ c3 thru c4a.
> >
> >Somehow, when you reload AutoCAD after making toolbar changes,
> >it decides to recompile the mns file, which tends to screw up the
> >names of the button icons. You end up with either a smiley face
> >or a blank button.
> >Your best bet is to exit AutoCAD and manually edit the mns file
> >yourself.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the response, although I havent a clue how to do what you
> suggest; 
Tony,
Just open aclt.mns with WordPad or other text editor that can handle
a longgggg file. Search for ***TOOLBARS. Then look for the toolbar's
name that contains your new buttons, ie. **SPECIAL. Then check each
button's icon, ie. ID__1  [_Button("Tile P", ICON5784.bmp, ICON_24_BLANK)]
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
and make sure that file is in LT's directory. I've noticed that
LT tries to assign this ICONnnnnn.BMP format even though
you called it something else. Break out Paintbrush or QuickView
and look at all the bmp file in LT's dir. or change the name
back to what you called it. Then put the aclt.mnc and aclt.mnr
file in a safe place (another directory), re-open LT and
make sure it recompiles those two files before deleting the
old ones.
Enjoy,
Stef
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It turns out that the upgrade is $998.00 (according to AutoDesk)
Thanks again to the many responses I recieved about my inquiry.
:-)
Ward

wmill@execpc.com (Tony T) wrote:
>Hey all,
>I created some custom menu buttons in Acad, and they looked just
>peachy. Only thing is, when I restarted Acad, they were blank; they
>still work correctly, but there is no picture on them.
Make sure you store the icon .bmp file in a subdirectory on the Acad search
path. Preferably, locate where all the other icons for the standard menu are
stored and put them there.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction