Subject: Re: copy to layer?
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 18 Dec 1996 04:49:44 GMT
Michael Rounds wrote in article
<596nr5$s8o@apollo.csd.net>...
> In article <01bbeb53$8ff60aa0$8c6d1cce@softdisk.com.softdisk.com>, "doug"
says:
> >
> >Is it possible to duplicate(copy) objects from one layer to another?
> >only way I know is to copy objects to original layer, then change
> >properties to new layer, and finally, delete the first copy from the
> >original layer. Must be a better way.
> >
> >Thank you.
>
> This copies a selection set, and changes the new enntities to the
> current layer. The original selection set is NOT nnodified, deleted
> or otherswise changed.
> ;-------------------------------------------------------------------
> (defun c:clone( / clayer a b ss1 ss2)
[snip - nice lisp]
> (prin1)
> )
> ;-------------------------------------------------------------------
And here is how you'd do it with LT in the menu:
[Clone]^C^C_select;auto;\_copy;p;;0,0;0,0;_change;p;;layer;\
or
[Change to
current]^C^C_select;auto;\_change;_p;;_p;layer;$M=$(getvar,clayer);;
and combine for
[Clone to
current]^C^C_select;auto;\_copy;p;;0,0;0,0;_change;p;;layer;$M=$(getvar,clay
er);;
and
[Explode to current]^C^C_explode;\_change;_p;;_p;_la;$M=$(getvar,clayer);;
LT is AutoDesk's attempt at KISS
Enjoy,
Stef
Subject: Help: HP 5P true type font problem w/ R13C4 Win 95
From: Rick Laney
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:19:36 -1000
I am having problems with my HP 5P laserjet system printer. My True
Type Fonts are not printing properly. They only fill partially. I am
presently using AutoCAD R13C4 on Win 95.
Note: The fonts were printing properly when I was using Win 3.11 and
AutoCAD R13C3.
I have been using Win 3.11 system printer with AutoCAD 13C3, the true
type fonts and arrow heads filled properly. I recently upgraded to Win
95 and then updated to AutoCAD 13C4. My true type fonts only fill about
50% and the arrow heads in the dimension lines don't fill at all. Line
width is set @ .020" textqlty=50, textfill=1, fill (on) , it doesn't
matter if adjust area fill is checked or not, none of the optimization
settings have an effect either. I am using arial.ttf and arlrdbd.ttf.
The screen view is filled and looks good. It just won't print the way
it looks on the screen.
Thank you for your reply,
Rick Laney
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Subject: Re: regions and solids and hideplot
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:50:31 -0800
pointpre wrote:
>
> i've been trying to find a good way to mask out the areas behind my text
> and have found that the easiest and most stable way to do this is to
> create regions around them and use the hidelines option in the plot menu,
> but now all my solids, fills, and plines with widths are nothing but
> outlines, does anyone know of a way around this.
>
> also on another subject, is there anyway to create a viewport in a shape
> besides a rectangle, maybe any pline? sometimes i think autodesk is way
> out of touch with what thier clients might really want.
I do not know about AutoDesk. Please restrict the AutoCAD postings
and responses to the above to alt.cad.autocad and comp.cad.autocad
and leave comp.cad.cadence off the list (this is for software from
Cadence Design).
Thanks for your understanding.
Z
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Subject: Re: copy to layer?
From: TC(TITUS@bod.net)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 16:00:38 -0800
In article , "doug" says...
>
>Is it possible to duplicate(copy) objects from one layer to another?
>only way I know is to copy objects to original layer, then change
>properties to new layer, and finally, delete the first copy from the
>original layer. Must be a better way.
>
>Thank you.
>
Doug,
If you are copying objects from one layer to another, why delete the original object? If you simply want to MOVE an object to another layer, use the
CHPROP command or CHANGE command and properties suboption to
change the layer the object resides on. Did I understand this correctly?
TC
Subject: Help: HP 5P true type font problem w/ R13C4 Win 95
From: Rick Laney
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:15:28 -1000
I am having problems with my HP 5P laserjet system printer. My True
Type Fonts are not printing properly. They only fill partially. I am
presently using AutoCAD R13C4 on Win 95.
Note: The fonts were printing properly when I was using Win 3.11 and
AutoCAD R13C3.
Thank you for your reply,
Rick Laney
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Subject: Re: Text length in DCL windows for Windows Environment, r13 ?
From: Lu
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:13:58 -0800
Tony Tanzillo wrote:
>
> Lu - The width of a space is much narrower than other
> characters in a variable-pitch font (like the system
> font used in DCL dialogs).
Hi Tony,
I don't mean this the way it sounds but I know that. I think that
Autodesk/Microsoft has forgotten about fixed length strings and database
record display in a list window. On page 628 of the Customization Guide,
they refer to using tabs for the layer control window but then also
caution that the apperance may differ across platforms. Using a
mono-spaced font in the list windows would be ideal. But how does one do
it?
The following is data extracted from Title Blocks;
By position; (dwg_no) (dwg_size) (rev_no) (dwg_title)
06249 B 0 FIRE BOX BACK
06263 B 0 ASH DOOR SPACER
06320 B 0 TERMINATION SPACER
10000000 ? 0 * UNKNOWN *
10000100 ? 0 * UNKNOWN *
As displayed in a windows DCL list window;
06249 B 0 FIRE BOX BACK
06263 B 0 ASH DOOR SPACER
06320 B 0 TERMINATION SPACER
10000000 ? 0 * UNKNOWN *
10000100 ? 0 * UNKNOWN *
The columns don't align in a Windoz list box! It seems rather absurd to
write a function to add or delete spaces simply to display a data line.
And if one did, how would they be able to retrieve a data field if the
string/record is not fixed length? *^$#%*(&*^&%% B. Gates!
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: Re: ACAD R12 c4 For Sale
From: cadman@cdsnet.net (Mike Mauldin)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:37:51 GMT
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:23:34 -0600, "Frank H." wrote:
>Please reply to Frank < xpc@icon.net >
>>
>> mike Carpenter wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi:
>> > I have a copy of AutoCAD R12 c4 for Windows for sale. It is on original
>> > disks. but, there are no books, or manuals, no licence or anything, only
>> > the disks. The licence for various reasons that I do not want to go into
>> > now, cannot be transfered. I am willing to sell the disks at a
>> > reasonalbly low price do to all the missing items. If you are interested
>> > please E-mail me back.
>> > Thanks
>> Thats almost like copying the disks and trying to sell them. Do you have
>> the original initialization disk. If so you may be able to locate the
>> license. Otherwise those disks are as good a copies.
How much are you asking? ( cadman@cdsnet.net )
Subject: Re: DIGITIZERS FOR SALE!!!!
From: cadman@cdsnet.net (Mike Mauldin)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:44:22 GMT
On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:43:20 GMT, papabear@roadrunner.com (Jerry
Anderson) wrote:
>I also have a diigitizer (12 x 12) with 16 button puck that is just
>gathering dust. It's a CALCOMP 2500 programmable - great piece of
>hardware if you need it.
>
>E-mail me ANY OFFER!!
>
>>>Subject: DIGITIZERS FOR SALE!!!!
>>>
>>>I have two digitizers (12 x 12) with 16 button pucks that are just
>>>gathering dust.
>>>
>>>One is a CAL-COMP model 23120 and the other is a
>>>Summagraphics MM II 1201.
>>>
>>>Both are guarenteed to be in perfect working order.
>>>
>>>CAL-COMP for $225
>>>Summagraphics for $250
>
>>If you're getting this much abuse over therse prices, then I guess I will be
>>selling my digitizers for around $100. (little used, 4 or 16 button, with or
>>without tails on pucks - suma and calcomp)
>
>>Chip (of the lake)
>
>
>
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>
>"It's time to throw all their damn tea in the harbor again!"
>
>
If your selling the Summa for $100, I'm interested.
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Subject: Re: Text length in DCL windows for Windows Environment, r13 ?
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 18 Dec 1996 04:55:38 GMT
Lu - The width of a space is much narrower than other
characters in a variable-pitch font (like the system
font used in DCL dialogs).
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Lu wrote in article <32B64C1A.7BF5@ix.netcom.com>...
> in the following DCL segment, 20 characters are reserved for text;
>
> : concatenation {
> : text_part { label = "Material:"; }
> : text_part { key = "material"; label = " "; }
> }
>
>
> This is the data passed to the key, "material"; STEEL, .2500, 1/4"
>
> and this is what is displayed in the window; STEEL,
>
> What happened to the balance of the text? It works fine in r12,
> mono/system text. I have tried to find a setting in windows 95 to set
> all displayed text to a mono spaced text. I have reviewed both r12
> and r13 manuals for a DCL command that specifies a text font. I cant
> find anything. This problem is really getting annoying because I have
> other programs that are screwed up due to proportional text fonts.
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated;
> Lu
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Subject: External Threads? Was:How to tell if MCAD 1.1?
From: racerx@nbn.net
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:05:32 GMT
Thank you for the help. We received MCAD 1.0, which really messed up
our installation of AutoFEA 2.0, but life goes on.
I've been trying MCAD and was wondering what is the recommended method
to show external threads. I see how to do a tapped hole, but I can't
seem to find any reference to external threads. It just so happens
that my first project already has a catch
Thank you for the help,
Grant
On 17 Dec 1996 07:06:46 -0800, hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
wrote:
>Just install the AMD you have received and goto the HELP section of the
>Pull down menu. Now click on the About MCAD at the Mechanical desktop
>section.
>It will show you a Dialog with Autodesk Mechanical Desktop Ver 1.1
>with a Thanks message.
>I would suggest you to load the AUtoCAD that comes along with the AMD.
>It should show as R13c4_a_Mh (Hardware lock) . This is my hardware lock
>copy.In your case it should show as R13c4_a_M
Subject: External Threads? Was:How to tell if MCAD 1.1?
From: racerx@nbn.net
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:06:47 GMT
Thank you for the help. We received MCAD 1.0, which really messed up
our installation of AutoFEA 2.0, but life goes on.
I've been trying MCAD and was wondering what is the recommended method
to show external threads. I see how to do a tapped hole, but I can't
seem to find any reference to external threads. It just so happens
that my first project already has a catch
Thank you for the help,
Grant
On 17 Dec 1996 07:06:46 -0800, hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
wrote:
>Just install the AMD you have received and goto the HELP section of the
>Pull down menu. Now click on the About MCAD at the Mechanical desktop
>section.
>It will show you a Dialog with Autodesk Mechanical Desktop Ver 1.1
>with a Thanks message.
>I would suggest you to load the AUtoCAD that comes along with the AMD.
>It should show as R13c4_a_Mh (Hardware lock) . This is my hardware lock
>copy.In your case it should show as R13c4_a_M
Subject: Re: Text length in DCL windows for Windows Environment, r13 ?
From: Morten Warankov
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:19:01 +0100
Hi Lu,
I don't find it at all absurd to write a function to add or delete
spaces.
There are several occasions when you want the 'true' content of a data
element, and functions to retrieve this are widely used. In my library I
have a lot of functions to twist and bend data to make it behave like I
want to. The benefits are obvious. If I get the 'true' data element I
can among other simplify searching, sorting and as you have discovered
typing. Not only to dialog boxes, but also to lists or external files.
You can easily check the longest data element, and display the data
accordingly.
If you want the data saved as xdata or xrecord you usually want to save
the 'true' content of a data element, not filling tha database up with
all the spaces and additional information that you want the user to see.
In this respect, I encourage you to use stripped data elements, and post
my routines to delete spaces in front of and behind a string.The
comments are in Norwegian, but since it's a rather easy routine I
suppose you can see what's happening.
After stripping the spaces you could easily insert the '\t' to tabulate
information in a dialog box.
Take this for what it is,
the opinion of
Mortenw.
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;;fjern blanke først
(if (= strng "") (setq strng "")
(progn
(while (and (= (substr strng 1 1) " ")
(> (strlen strng) 1)
)
(setq strng (substr strng 2))
)
;;fjern blanke etter
(while (and (= (substr strng (strlen strng) 1) " ")
(> (strlen strng) 1)
)
(setq strng (substr strng 1 (1- (strlen strng))))
)
)
)
(if (= strng " ") (setq strng ""))
strng
)
Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop
From: cranston@infinet.com (Brian Cranston)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:23:48 GMT
pappy@deltanet.com (pappy) wrote:
>
>Russell,
>Thanks for the reply.
>You're right about just going for it and digging right in if you want
>to learn.
..........
>I do have a question for you.
>Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly
>constraints to a
>tangent arc/circle?
>I sketch my subject, convert it into a profile, add constraints and
>add dim's
>but won't let me dimension a quadrant/tangent, only the center!
>Need Help!!
>
>Thanks,
>Pappy
>Even the Ref dimensions won't work. Is there any short cut commands?
>
>
>
What you can do for tangencies is before profiling the sketch, add a
line that runs tangent to the arc or circle in question. Then change
that tangent line to a linetype that is something other than
continuous. Now, profile the sketch and add tangent constaints to the
line and arc/circle. Now you can dimension to the line which is
effectively what you needed. It is a little round-about, but it
works.
Hope this helps
Brian Cranston
cranston@infinet.com
Subject: File Open Problem
From: J P McLaughlin
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:51:15 GMT
We've been observing a strange, intermittant problem opening files in
ACADWIN r13c4. When Win95 clients open drawing on an NT 4.0 server, they
sometimes take 30-45 seconds BEFORE the drawing actually starts to load.
If you go to the server and look at the open files, you'll see that the
workstation is trying to open 2 copies of the file. After a while, the
second copy disappears from the monitor and the open process continues
normally. Any ideas? Autodesk shrugged at this one and suggested
Microsoft, but the problem is isolatd to AutoCAD.
Subject: Re: Launch Cad
From: Rod Young
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:42:23 -0800
RHarveyTZG wrote:
>
> does anyone have a utillity like this for r13 windows 95 or NT
>
> If you don't know what it was. it would alowe u to select a group of
> files to run a script on then compile that in to one script then launch
> AutoCAD and run the script
>
> allowing you to plot or make bulk changes to a dwg such as change all the
> text to the same size, or a word form "this" to "that"
>
> It would be great if anyone had any ideas on how to do this or had a
> utillity that did it for 95 or nt.
>
> I am trying to make one but have not as yet been sucsesfull
Our program RUN LISP does exactly that and much more. Batch process up
to 1,000 drawings at a time using multiple lisp or scripts, select the
drawings from multiple subdirectories, comes with many useful batch
compatible programs ready to be used.
Rod Young
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If this ftp site is busy, go to and search
for mirror
sites worldwide where these demos may also be downloaded.
RUN LISP - batch acad R12
RUN LISP - batch acad R13
DIRECTORY TAMER - Simple EDM
BATCH PLOT - auto plot dwgs
AUTO LOADER - alisp manage
AUTOBMP - dwg > bmp
DWGDOC - attach file to dwg
FINDVARS - alisp helper
Subject: Re: regions and solids and hideplot
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:45:46 GMT
pointpre wrote:
>i've been trying to find a good way to mask out the areas behind my text
>and have found that the easiest and most stable way to do this is to
>create regions around them and use the hidelines option in the plot menu,
>but now all my solids, fills, and plines with widths are nothing but
>outlines, does anyone know of a way around this.
If you use hideplot, none of the solid fills will show up, as you're finding
out. This is one of the basic drawbacks to using these kinds of entities in
drawings that requre hidden lines.
A terrifically kludgy way to go about what you're trying to do using masks to
mask underlying objects (using paperspace) is something that was described in
the December issue of CADalyst magazine:
Copy the viewport in which you want objects masked setting it precisely over the
first one. Use VPLAYER/FREEZE to freeze all objects in this new viewport. Create
a new layer for the masking entities and draw then in the new viewport over the
objects in the underlying viewport you wish to have masked.
In order to prevent the oulines of the masks to show you'll have to set them to
a color not used in the drawing itself and assign it to a 0% grey scale color.
This will in effect create a "white" ink pen.
>also on another subject, is there anyway to create a viewport in a shape
>besides a rectangle, maybe any pline?
While it can't do more than orthographic, eg right angled polygonal viewports,
you could find a copy of a program called Plot Layout Designer. In effect it
would transparently (to the user) create a series of viewports adjacent to each
other in a user defined shape (given the restriction of being orthographic, that
is).
I got a demo version of this product a long time ago but haven't seen much about
it since so I'm not sure if it's even available any longer. If you would like me
to email you a copy of the demo I surely will.
Check one of the back issues of our SAUG newsletter
(http://www.halcyon.com/jeeper/saug/saughome.htm) .... we published a routine
from Alan Williams a few months ago that would create mview viewports in the
same manner.
But in straight answer to your question - it can't be done *directly* within
AutoCAD.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Wintab Problems
From: themule@ibm.net (Matt Hortman)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:01:10 GMT
There is a known problem ( I think ) with using a wintab driver for a
digitizer. When using '\' in the button menus, AutoCAD doesn't get
the current cursor coordinates but instead gets an extreme on the top
right of the screen.
I remember discussion about it in this group but I don't remember the
final verdict. Was it an AutoCAD, wintab driver, or windows problem?
Also, was a workaround ever discovered?
thanks,
-Matt
Subject: regions and solids and hideplot
From: pointpre
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:07:18 -0800
i've been trying to find a good way to mask out the areas behind my text
and have found that the easiest and most stable way to do this is to
create regions around them and use the hidelines option in the plot menu,
but now all my solids, fills, and plines with widths are nothing but
outlines, does anyone know of a way around this.
also on another subject, is there anyway to create a viewport in a shape
besides a rectangle, maybe any pline?
any help would be greatly appreciated,
gerrit speulstra
pointpre@skylands.net
Subject: Re: Virus in AutoCAD LT for Windows 95
From: wmill@execpc.com (Tony T)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:23:09 GMT
On 17 Dec 1996 07:10:17 -0800, hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
wrote:
>Lynn Caron wrote:
>
>>I found a virus infecting the File ADDISP32.dll on my LT for 95 CD ROM.
>>
>>Who should I contact at Autodesk about this?
>>
>
>
>It can't be a virus. If you are using virus scanners like IBM's or
>Mcafee then they just clash with the files you are mentioning and say
>that they are virus infected.
>I am sure the CD 's can't have VIRUS with them .
>
>G.Rajesh
>//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
I went through the same scare, with Mcafee, and thats all it was;
False alarm, no matter what the naysayers say.
Tony
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Subject: Can't easily access symbols in greek fonts in Acad13R4
From: Alois Steindl
Date: 18 Dec 1996 15:18:49 +0100
Hello,
after upgrading to R13 the greek letters from the greek[sc] fonts are
displayed as '?'. I learned from the manuals (and by looking into the
sources) that these fonts are now in Unicode format and that they
should be useable somehow.
So what do I have to type, to get, say, \alpha? Until now I entered
just 'a'.
In the users guide on page 600 also the 'old' character mapping is
displayed.
As you will guess, we have lots of mathematical or mechanical graphics
with greek letters and would like to avoid too much trouble.
Now I replace the greek fonts with postscript fonts, but that
shouldn't be the only solution.
Thanks for your attention.
Alois
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