Subject: Re: NEED HELP...HOW CAN I FILL THE WALLS?
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:05:51 GMT
jhata@sure.net (Junji Hata) wrote:
>I use R13c3 and have several architectural drawings. What I want
>to do is to paint out the inside of all walls. Now all walls are
>drawn by lines, but I have to fill it by black.
>I also considered using Hatch, but there is no hatch pattern to fill
>it with just black.
You would use a dense hatch to fill the walls as a last resort, believe me. Your
drawing file would be huge as a result.
>I changed the wall lines to polylines and used Fill command and set it
>on, but nothing happened.
The "Fill" command does not mean that the area between two polylines will be
filled. It means that "wide" polylines, traces, 2D solids and the like will be
filled with a solid color of your choice.
Two suggestions:
Use wide polylines setting the width equal to the width of your walls. You'll
have to draw a new plline down the *center* of every wall since the width is
measured from the center, offset on either side. The disadvantage of this is
that you can't snap to the 'corners' of the wall since osnaps select the
defining vertices of a polyline which lie along the center. But you could, for
drafting and design, use the double lined walls for dimensioning, etec. then set
a layer named "poche" on which to add the wall fills.
Second approach, and one I personally favor is to use an old entity type called
the Trace. This has the advantage of mitering the corners, each segment becomes
a separate entity, you can snap to the corners and they can be broken for door
and window openings. You can also give them thickness in order to create a quick
and dirty 3D model of the layout although you can't cut holes in them for
windows, doors, etc. The Trace object takes a little getting used to with regard
to the input of trace width and the way it draws itself as you pick endpoints on
the screen. You'll also have to draw this along the centerline of the walls
setting the width equal to the wall width.
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: HELP IN R13
From: jeeper@halcyon.com (Dennis Shinn)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:05:41 GMT
CAD SLAVE wrote:
>CAN YOU EXPLODE A LEADER IN R13
>AND CAN YOU HAVE A SHORT TAIL
>AND NOT THAT ONE THAT IS UNDERLINE IN MTEXT
No, you cannot explode a Command: line leader object.
If your leader notes are short and really don't require the multiline aspect of
MTEXT, you can use the Dimension Leader instead. This draws an arrow (type
depending on the vagaries of your dimension style) and a series of line
segments, then prompts for a dimension at which point you can add your notation
as an override. There will be a short "tail" appended to the last line segment
of the leader and no underlining - at least it's never underlined text when I've
used it. The Dim/Leader text is still MTEXT
You can also edit the command line leader objects using ddedit where, under the
properties button, you'll find a range of choices as to how the leader tail is
connected to the text block.
>THANKS
>THE CAD SLAVE
Dennis Shinn
Seattle AutoCAD User Group
SAUG-BBS [206] 644-7115 [PCGNet]9:517/215
CAD Systems manager/GLY Construction
Subject: Re: Text length in DCL windows for Windows Environment, r13 ?
From: Lu
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:15:47 -0800
Morten Warankov wrote:
> =
> Hi Lu,
> =
> I don't find it at all absurd to write a function to add or delete
> spaces.
> There are several occasions when you want the 'true' content of a data
> element, and functions to retrieve this are widely used. In my library I
> have a lot of functions to twist and bend data to make it behave like I
> want to. The benefits are obvious. If I get the 'true' data element I
> can among other simplify searching, sorting and as you have discovered
> typing. Not only to dialog boxes, but also to lists or external files.
> You can easily check the longest data element, and display the data
> accordingly.
> If you want the data saved as xdata or xrecord you usually want to save
> the 'true' content of a data element, not filling tha database up with
> all the spaces and additional information that you want the user to see.
> In this respect, I encourage you to use stripped data elements, and post
> my routines to delete spaces in front of and behind a string.The
> comments are in Norwegian, but since it's a rather easy routine I
> suppose you can see what's happening.
> =
> After stripping the spaces you could easily insert the '\t' to tabulate
> information in a dialog box.
> =
> Take this for what it is,
> =
> the opinion of
> =
> Mortenw.
> ___________________________________________
> =
> (defun fjernbl ( strng / )
> ;;fjern blanke f=F8rst
> (if (=3D strng "") (setq strng "")
> (progn
> (while (and (=3D (substr strng 1 1) " ")
> (> (strlen strng) 1)
> )
> (setq strng (substr strng 2))
> )
> ;;fjern blanke etter
> (while (and (=3D (substr strng (strlen strng) 1) " ")
> (> (strlen strng) 1)
> )
> (setq strng (substr strng 1 (1- (strlen strng))))
> )
> )
> )
> (if (=3D strng " ") (setq strng ""))
> strng
> )
Hi Morten,
Thanks! I had tried using tabs before but I screwed up. I must have =
used the editor that is configured to convert tabs to spaces. I just =
tried it again using the WordPad in win 95 and the columns align =
correctly. =
I must agree with you about wasted space. My ascii data file is created =
by writing data from a dBaseiii database. Having written my own database =
engine and working with database data for the last 5-6 years, I never =
thought of compressing data in the ascii file by using tab spaces. I =
guess I can count tab spaces to find a specific field value if I need it.
Thanks again,
Lu
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Subject: Re: software for construct footwear
From: p.west@mailbox.uq.edu.au (Peter B. West)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:43:26 GMT
On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:59:57 +0000, Stevie
wrote:
>In article <32B2FE23.300C@luckynet.co.il>, Full Name
> writes
>>Dear friends!
>> I need a software for construct,desing footwear.If you have it or
>>know about this software inform me ,please.
>> Nataly Elizavetsky , eliza@luckynet.co.il
>
>
>Theres a company called CSM3D who have just lanched shoe design software
>running on SGI's called Shoemaster. Dont have any more info than that
>I'm afraid.
>--
>Stevie
In the city of Street in Somerset, UK, is the headquarters of Clark's, a
famous shoe company in England. A company also located in Street has
developed design and manufacturing software in association with Clarks.
I read a news item about this when I was visiting Somerset in August.
That's all I know about it, but I imagine you would be able to get an
address and an e-mail address for the software by contacting Clarks in
the UK.
Cheers,
Peter
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Subject: Re: copy to layer?
From: James Padgett
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:29:24 -0200
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doug wrote:
>
> Is it possible to duplicate(copy) objects from one layer to another?
> only way I know is to copy objects to original layer, then change
> properties to new layer, and finally, delete the first copy from the
> original layer. Must be a better way.
>
> Thank you.
Doug, here are two lisp routines to copy objects from one layer to
another. One allows you to pick an object on the layer you want to
copy, and then pick an object on the layer you want to copy it to.
The other routine ask you to pick an object on the layer you want to
copy, and then prompts you for the name of the layer you want to copy
to. Let me know how they work. James
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;COPYLAY.LSP
;Layer control utility for Steve Heller. Type in name of layer to copy to.
;
(defun c:copylay ()
(setvar "cmdecho" 0)
;(setq cop1 (car (entsel "Select the entity to copy: ")))
(prompt "Pick objects to copy: ")
(setq cop1 (ssget))
(setq lan1 (getstring "\nLayer name to copy entities to?"))
(setq tnam (tblsearch "layer" lan1))
(setq lnum (sslength cop1))
(setq cnt 0)
(if (/= tnam nil)
(progn
(repeat lnum
(setq aa (entget (ssname cop1 cnt)))
(setq bb (cdr (assoc -1 aa)))
(setq cnt (1+ cnt))
(command "copy" bb "" "0,0,0" "0,0,0")
(command "chprop" bb "" "la" lan1 "")
(redraw)
);repeat
);progn
);if
(if (= tnam nil)
(prompt "Layer name not found!!")
);if
(setq tnam nil)
(setvar "cmdecho" 1)
);defun
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;COPYLAY1.LSP
;Layer control utility for Steve Heller. Pick entity to copy to.
;
(defun c:copylay1 ()
(setvar "cmdecho" 0)
;(setq cop1 (car (entsel "Select the entity to copy: ")))
(prompt "Pick objects to copy: ")
(setq cop1 (ssget))
(setq lan (entget (car (entsel "Select entity on layer you want to copy to:"))))
(setq lan1 (cdr (assoc 8 lan)))
(setq lnum (sslength cop1))
(setq cnt 0)
(repeat lnum
(setq aa (entget (ssname cop1 cnt)))
(setq bb (cdr (assoc -1 aa)))
(setq cnt (1+ cnt))
(command "copy" bb "" "0,0,0" "0,0,0")
(command "chprop" bb "" "la" lan1 "")
(redraw)
);repeat
(setvar "cmdecho" 1)
);defun
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Subject: Re: ACAD r13 DXF Problems
From: Lu
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:42:23 -0800
W.R. Lewis wrote:
>
> Has anyone else come across this problem the dxf file format only appears
> to work
> solely with ACAD r13 , any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Lewis
Hi Bill,
It would be my guess that any program written before r13 was oficially
started by Autodesk would not be able to read a r13 dxf.
I recently created some laser programs for a client and supplied dxf
files I generated in r13. They could not read the dxf's in AutoCAD r12
windows so I re-dxf'ed them using r12.
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ?
From: glenn.thomson@comdev.ca (Glenn Thomson)
Date: 18 Dec 1996 17:08:06 GMT
In article <597pt4$7os@carrera.intergate.bc.ca>,
Norman Kwok wrote:
>glenn.thomson@comdev.ca (Glenn Thomson) wrote:
>
>>
>>I'd like to know what locomotive engineers and stationary engineers call
>>themselves in your part of Ontario, then.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Glenn Thomson, P. Eng.
>>
>
>You've raised an interesting point but tell me this, when was
>the last time you received a business card from a locomotive or
>stationary engineer?
Never, but why does this matter? If I lose my job and don't have any business
cards, do I lose my professional standing as well?
>In Canada,stationary engineering is a licensed trade. Stationary
>engineers have to pass an interprovincial exam to qualify.
Exactly my point. I doubt they are going to give up the title because
P.Eng.'s don't like it.
>Professional engineering statutes in Canada often include an
>exemption for stationary engineers.
What about all the other 'engineer' titles?
>Cheers,
>
>T.Kwok
>
Glenn
Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ?
From: Kevin Jones
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:11:46 -0800
Norman Kwok wrote:
>
> glenn.thomson@comdev.ca (Glenn Thomson) wrote:
>
> >
> >I'd like to know what locomotive engineers and stationary engineers call
> >themselves in your part of Ontario, then.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Glenn Thomson, P. Eng.
> >
>
> You've raised an interesting point but tell me this, when was
> the last time you received a business card from a locomotive or
> stationary engineer?
>
> In Canada,stationary engineering is a licensed trade. Stationary
> engineers have to pass an interprovincial exam to qualify.
>
> Professional engineering statutes in Canada often include an
> exemption for stationary engineers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> T.Kwok
It's a little more than writing an "interprovencial exam" to qualify.
I am a Stationary Engineer, have business cards, and have never
written an interprovencial exam.
Tx,
K. Jones
Subject: Autocad on R10k SGI?
From: David_Haigh
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:01:04 -0800
I've just gone to Irix 6.2 and upgraded to an R10k processor on a
few of my SGI's. The problem is, Autocad won't run the the R10k
machines, but it will run on the R4400 processors that are running
Irix 6.2.
Does any one know how to get Autocad to run on the R10k? This isn't
a show stopper for me, but it might cause others untold grief.
Any help appreacated.
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Subject: Re: AutoLISP Advice Needed
From: Desi Moreno
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:26:05 -0800
Rusty Gesner wrote:
>
> Desi Moreno wrote:
> >
> > mettle1@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > The "autolisp reference" book that comes with R12 is the best autolisp
> > > reference book out there. A little skippy on examples, but cant be beat
> > > explaining THIS does THAT.
> >
> > I have to comment on that. How many Autolisp books have you read ?
> > I have about 4 different ones, The one I use the most is Maximizing
> > Autolisp. It has a section on dxf codes (which the Reference book has
> > not) It also starts you from scratch. This is the book to buy.
>
> Thanks for the kudos, Desi, but it is currently unavailable. Tony
> Tanzillo, Mark Middlebrook, and I (Rusty Gesner) are currently working
> on an R13 edition, which will be available from Autodesk Press in a few
> months. See below for my web site URL for more info.
That's right. I guess I should of mentioned I was using the rel 12
version. I'm sure the REL 13 version will be even better (more kudos !)
se ya
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Subject: Re:WinNT4/ Acad13 Capacity problem
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 18 Dec 1996 05:41:45 -0800
Bornhorst & Ward Pty Ltd wrote:
>Problem : Cannot load v.large drawings into ACAD13 while running NT4 WS
>Same files can be loaded into ACAD12 from Wfwg311 or Win95 using
>(P90,32Mb).
>
>Computer Spec: NT4 WS, P166 64Mb RAM , 60M swap file
>
>The drawing is a survey drawing of 19M incl xrefs of 10M & 8M.
>In ACAD13, the drawing loads to 98% then stops. ACAD12 eventually loads
>drawing (3 to 4 times as long compared to using Wfwg). Once loaded there
>doesnt appear to be a problem.
>We are about to embark upon a project where there will be several
>drawings of this size and a very tight deadline.
>
>Any help or hints will be tried as we are getting desperate.....
>
>TIA , Rob Gray (PS Please reply to email as well as group)
>--
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>born_ward@mailbox.uq.edu.au
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>+61 (07) 38314699
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>+61 (07) 38324804
I am really not sure , what is the cause. But you have not mentioned the
the exact release of R13 like R13c4 or R13c4a. R13c4a supports NT4.0
offically.
Try also by increasing the permanent swap file to a larger size say 128MB and see
whether the condition improves.
Make a temporary directory say c:\temp and change the the temporary
directory in the Autocad configuration.
Do all the xref's are in the same directory.
Meanwhile I am also looking into other possibilities.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Help! Acad .dxf -> 3dMax probs
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 18 Dec 1996 05:40:22 -0800
bigal@interlog.com (Alan) wrote:
>Hi there...
>
>I've got a problem, and I'm hoping that someone here may be able to help.
>Here's the situation...
>
>- A mesh was created in Autocad (sorry- don't know the version- I believe it
>was 12)
>- AME (which, I understand, means "Automatic Modeling Extension" or something
>like that) was used during the design
>- Saved in acad as a .dxf file
>- I don't work in Autocad myself, so I don't know what parameters were used in
>saving it as .dxf
>- I try to import it into 3dStudio r3, r4 and 3dMax, and no matter what I try
>(import as layers, colors, etc. etc.) I don't get a full mesh
>- The mesh that I do get is the correct shape, but is missing a lot of faces.
>Eg. a flat surface, missing a triangular block section
>- From what I understand, using AME in the design process is what screwed
>things up. True?
>
>Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry if I couldn't supply you with more
>info- I am merely an animator ;)
>
>Thanks in advance,
>alan
>
Alan,
I assume that the solids you have created are still in the wireframe
mode only. If you take a DXF now and import into 3DS you will not get the
desired results.
So USE the SOLMESH command and select the objects you want to export
to the 3DS. Then use the DXFOUT command and select the objects.
Now you can get the solids in tact.
If you want to increase the accuracy in 3DS then edit the 3DS.SET file
and increase the maximum no. of vertices to say 1000. Now the
accuracy will be good.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Q: dwg to MicroStation working units
From: rich@erols.com (Richard K Cheng)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:17:49 GMT
Hello,
I am currently working in MicroStation 95, and I have the
following question. I am trying to open or import an AutoCAD file in
MicroStation, and I would like to keep the working units in the
AutoCAD file. Right now, whenever I try to open an AutoCAD file, the
working units are set to the current defaults. Does anyone know how
to import the working units from the AutoCAD file? Thanks in advance
for your help.
Rich Cheng
work: rkcheng@ingr.com
home: rich@erols.com
Subject: Re: LISP QUESTION
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 18 Dec 1996 19:42:20 GMT
Excuse me, but this is NOT PERSONAL.
This individual is alledgedly doing product support for
Autodesk, and the criticism is directed at the extremely
poor quality of the support he's pretending to provide,
and is being leveled for the purpose of illustrating how
some people at Autodesk are more than willing to sacrifice
quality to show the management they've saved a few bucks,
which gets them a promotion or a raise (you know, the old
carrot & stick approach).
They appear to be getting paid by the message. I suspect
this, because they are simply posting as many messages as
they can, even if the some of the messages are completely
incomprehensible, factually incorrect, or serve to do
little if anything to help. In other words, they're just
faking it to some extent.
If he takes it personally, that's unfortunate, but I can
assure you that it's not personal.
Remember something, Autodesk customers are the ones who
ultimately suffer as a result of this kind of corporate
penny-pinching.
The management at Autodesk rewards employees for saving
the company money. It doesn't seem to matter how they do
that, as long as they do, and this is an example of why
that policy is flawed, and serves to degrade the overall
quality of products and services that Autodesk provides.
This is all constructive critcism. If they don't take it
constructively, that's their problem, not mine.
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Morten Warankov wrote in article
<32B7A436.1C86@abacus.no>...
> Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> >
> > Is this the best you can do?
> >
> Is this the correct place for personal offence ? :)
>
> Mortenw
>
