Subject: Re: bincancel:82 large binaries:AR781:@@NCM
From: red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (Richard E. Depew)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 04:14:16 GMT
Large binary posts do not belong in unmoderated discussion groups.
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I have issued 82 cancels for large binary files (average size 77,675.9
characters - total size 6,369,421 characters) posted to 8 different
unmoderated discussion groups in the comp, rec, and sci hierarchies
(with cross-posts into alt groups) as follows:
75 rec.travel.cruises
1 sci.electronics.design
1 rec.bicycles.marketplace
1 rec.aviation.marketplace
1 comp.groupware.groupwise
1 comp.emulators.game-consoles
1 comp.cad.autocad
1 alt.music.dance
alt.music.rap
rec.music.hip-hop
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Subject: Would you like to import/export other 3D formats in AutoCAD?
From: John Foust
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:59:36 -0600
My company makes InterChange, a Windows and SGI program that translates
between more than fifty 3D file formats.
I'd like to assess the demand for AutoCAD plug-in versions of our
translators. With these, you'd be able to load and save more than
fifty 3D file formats directly from within AutoCAD, similar to the
3DSIN and 3DSOUT commands that process 3D Studio .3DS files.
If you'd be interested in such a thing, or have other ideas, please
send me an e-mail message.
- John Foust
Syndesis Corporation
235 South Main Street
Jefferson, WI 53549
(414) 674-5200
(414) 674-6363 FAX
syndesis@threedee.com
http://www.threedee.com
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 19 Dec 1996 04:48:03 GMT
E+ Engineering Inc. wrote in article
<32B875B3.36F7@aristotle.net>...
> If you hate Autocad so much, then why do you waste so much time telling
> everybody your the "Expert Autocad Prgramming and Customization" (see
above)
> and "Co-Author of Maximizing Autocad R13". Do you often spend great deals
of
> time on inferior products? You obviously spent a great deal of time
learning
> Autolisp and other programming aspects of Autocad. I can tell from
reading
> your previous postings on such matters. Then again with your ego you
probably
> claim to have invented it or just woke up and "know it all".
Well - I don't believe I ever said I hated AutoCAD. "hate"is
not an accurate characterization.
I, like many others (including many of my clients), use it
not because it is their first preference, but mostly because
it is required (mainly due to the the popularity of its file
format, and also because of the large pool of skilled users).
In some cases, it is required by their clients or whomever
they're doing business with.
That's an unfortunate reality. However, since I'm in the
business of serving my clients, and not in the business of
serving Autodesk, and because I've been working with AutoCAD
for the past 10 years, clients are willing to take advantage
of that 'expertese'.
In many cases, my skills are used to overcome many of the
shortcomings of AutoCAD, as well as add-ons like Softdesk.
What I've said about AutoCAD is the truth. Unfortunately, as
the old saying goes, the truth often hurts more than a good
swift kick in the cajoulies.
> Or did someone from Autodesk just piss you off to the point
> where you have a personal agenda to slander them every chance
> you get?
All I can tell you is if this were this the case, I would have
plenty of company, because if there is one thing that Autodesk
seems to be good at, it's making enemies by pissing off not
only their 'partners', but their customers as well.
If your livelyhood was dependent on AutoCAD's continued
popularity and success, and a major screw up results in a
release (13) that is largely unsuccessful, and that lack
of success adversely effects your business and livelyhood,
then would you be pissed off?
Regardless of whether you would or would not be, I don't
think you can call that 'personal'. It's not personal, it's
business.
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Subject: Re: Nut & Bolts Layering problem solved!
From: "Doug Julien AIA"
Date: 19 Dec 1996 05:00:40 GMT
Spiffy! By using color to control lineweight, these guys now only need One
layer! And only five colors! Leave us all learn from them...
All jokin' aside, why does Autocad concentrate so much on the manipulation
of layers at the expense of the manipulation of colors? God help me if I
want to "select" all the red objects (only) in my drawing - say, to change
the lineweight to a heavier pen, like the green one...Sure, there are Lisp
routines written to fill this obvious gap, but I've got Lt95.
Subject: Re: Autocad to high resolution bitmap conversion
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:42:08 -0800
neff wrote:
>
> I would like to be able to convert autocad vector files into a high
> resolution (200-300 DPI bi-tonal, images) bitmap format such as a GIF
> or TIFF. Most would be 11" by 17" drawings. I don't believe
> Autocad has a way of doing this. Are there any utilities available
> that can do such a conversion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Neff
> neff@inetarena.com
Hi Dave,
If you are looking for high resolution and will be working with r13
windows, you might try the WMF format. I imagine that it is vector
based. I use it for importing into Microsoft Word 6.0. Iused to use BMP
then I found the WMF. It's 1000% better than playing with bitmapped
images and the file size is *much* smaller.
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: Re: Nut & Bolts Layering
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 19 Dec 1996 05:40:50 GMT
Dave Griffith wrote in article <32B81F25.121E@inel.gov>...
> I am an Architectural Designer and have used Autocad for several years.
[snip]
> about 5 layers on their drawings. The layers are object01, object02,
> object03 ect. They then set the line width for each layer (object01 =
> very fine, thru object05 = heavy line). So the purpose is to draw every
> "very fine" line on your drawing on the same layer and every really
> heavy line is on is on the same layer. Their layering separates line
> thickness instead of objects. They tell me that their purpose is to
> make their drawings look like what they would draw on the drawing
> board. So, they dont need the complex layering that an AE type of
> drawing would.
[snip]
We use an odd combination of the 2 schools of thought - the complexity
of AIA and the line weight of "the board". Example:
The basics are obj1(thick), obj2, cen, hid, phan, and hatch.
The complexities are cnv, con, ss (struc steel), p (piping), a (arch),
civ, eqp, ....
Put them together for:
Structrual Steel only dwgs: ss-obj1, ss-obj2, ss-cen, ss-hid, ss-phan
GAs that have all displines in them: ss-obj1, ss-cen, ss-hid, cnv-obj1....
The idea being begining GAs start the Assembly dwg process. And from the
final Assembly dwg only the main parts are needed in the GA. So obj2
and phan get left out of the GA and used for the "nuts & bolts" and
reference info in the Assembly.
Line weights are governed by color and each disp has its own color
scheme in the GA. SS=reds, CNV=white - grays, EQP=magentas, A=blues, ...
In the Assembly & Detail dwgs of each disp. obj1=white, obj2=8,
cen=green, hid=8, phan=9, hatch=yellow. All colors and linetypes
are governed bylayer so switching between dwg types can be done
even with LT in a script. This also allows the GA to be xref'd
in to a specific disp.'s overall assembly dwgs for a background
reference. Their layers in the xref can then be frozen and
all others turned to 9 (which is small-med & gray).
Now, whether it works smoothly or not depends on how many
hard-heads ;) we have working for us at the time.
Enjoy,
Stef
Subject: Redering and 3D view crashes r12c3 for DOS under network environment
From: "Charles Yang"
Date: 19 Dec 1996 04:55:07 GMT
Help. all the gurus out there!!!
I have this totally strange problem, PLEASE help me.
Environment: educational institution, multi-purpose lab.
Operates with 20 networked ACAD station under DOS.
Software: network installation of ACAD r12c3, Novell 3.12,
MS-DOS v6.22, Client32 for dos/win3.x
Hardware: Unisys 486 dx2/66, 8MB RAM,
Summagraphic digitizer
Problem: Now these days, lab users kept encopuntering with system crash
when they try to do a 3d view /object shifting, and or rendering.
I have been investigate on this issue for a month now, I seems
can't find any reference on it. Even with Autodesk's web site. The
strange thing is,
I have no this kind of poroblem before.
I supected there is a memory problem, and the network station conflict
but no luck with it. (what I did include rewrite and inspect acad.cfg and
acadr12.bat,
network lock, increase the swap mem. size on local station.)
Viro infection? No trace of any.
I am also suspecting Novell's Client32 for DOS/WIn3.x version-- the
latest client update.
I re-config and rewrite the net.cfg, to max. the connectivity and
other.----no luck.
the station still crashing whenever it does not like the redering job..
I really beat my brain out on this, is there any guru out there, can help
me with this?
Please, send email to yangc@dbcc.cc.fl.us, or reply on the group.
Subject: Re: AUTOCAD LT
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 19 Dec 1996 06:11:41 GMT
BOITEL Pierre-Marie wrote in article
<32B7CE0A.1FB0@img.fr>...
> i want use a program SKF ( bearing ), this program is use with the
> Autocad R13 et R12,
>
> i must send a programm dos ans this programm send a dxf bearing,
> can i automatics the process ?
>
Bonjour,
j'penser je sais que vous êtes dicton, mais pouvais tu répétes vos
message sur Français? Mes Français est un morseau rouillé, mais je crois
je peux ètre à des usage.
Que ai fait tu obtenir SKF's programme? je would aime
en obtenir un légal copie alors j' dessiner transporte.
Si vous pouvez halte moquer moi ;)
Stephanie
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Subject: Re: Bartz #3 on Highest-paid Women CEO's list
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 19 Dec 1996 07:25:11 GMT
Joseph - Good points all. I think as it stands, many R13
users will be somewhat cautious with R14, and will probably
wait until the second or third maintainence release.
Back when it first became clear that R13 was not doing well,
I said that the full implications of that will not be felt
by Autodesk until the next release cycle, when many of the
people who were disappointed by R13 will not go near R14
until at least 6 months after its release.
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Joseph M. Liston wrote in article
<32b7fc34.776962122@news.cei.net>...
> "Tony Tanzillo" wrote:
>
> >Gerhard - So what you're saying is that you don't really
> >care about the millions of dollars in lost productivity,
> >that it has costed Autodesk customers as a result of thier
> >choosing to 'upgrade' to R13 ?
> >
> >I have documented several cases detailing exactly how much
> >it has cost a number of early (and late) adopters, and in
> >some cases, the figures are significant - enough to buy
> >more than a few additional seats.
> >
> >I hope that some day we will have trade and commerce laws
> >that can be used to more-precisely define the meaning of
> >"defective" as applied to software products.
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>
>
> Hello Tony:
>
> This could be done very effectively with our wallets. All WE
> (all autocad users including Corporate) have to do is postpone buying
> R14 until after the first quater after its release. Make that quater
> look like the great depression and we will get their attention. Within
> the first month of the first quater I would be willing to bet we would
> see the best deals on upgrading that has ever been seen. I do not
> care how much Bartz makes as long as I get a solid (no pun intended)
> product that will allow me to do my job without making me look like a
> idiot because of bugs. When you tell the Man in Charge (or Woman as in
> my case) that upgrading will save time and give the functionality we
> are looking for and it does not, your creditbility went into the
> toilet. I do not think we will be as fast to upgrade next time. So
> IMHO I think our wallets will get more attention than all the bitching
> in the world.
>
> I have been teaching Autocad part time for 5 years now . The
> hardest part was when we switched to R13c1 and used our standard class
> outline. When we reached the dimension section of class we all looked
> like idiots trying to work around bugs. Students lose faith in your
> teaching ability when you have problems getting the software to work.
> FYI I am a autodesk certified instructor and teach at a premier
> training center. I have a class in the spring on ADE 2.0 and we do not
> even have the software. We were supposed to have it a month ago to
> start learning and developing classes for it and as of 16 Dec. we
> still have not received our copies. This will make for a interesting
> spring semester.
>
> Just my $0.02 worth.
>
>
>
> Regards Joe (smoker)
>
> =====================================
> The best things in life are free.
> (except tech support)
>
>
Subject: Fashion CAD & Free Clothing Models
From: "dgs"
Date: 18 Dec 1996 19:42:11 GMT
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-DGS
