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Subject: Re-define attribute laden title blocks -- From: civic@direct.ca (Keith Biggs)
Subject: script file for editing attributes -- From: civic@direct.ca (Keith Biggs)
Subject: Re: Converting attribute-text from blocks to std. text -- From: (Reini Urban)
Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ? -- From: Kevin Jones
Subject: Softdesk in play -- From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Subject: Re: mtext string substitution? -- From: ddp@awwwsome.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: snapping misses corners even with snap mode off -- From: "Steven P. Schneider"
Subject: Creating ads applications -- From: kroche@fox.nstn.ca (Keven Roche)
Subject: Re:Draftpro EXL driver for NT4 with ACAD13C4 wrote: -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:bubble jet problems -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:autoCAD LT: Dimensions! -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:C4a patch = Fatal Error -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Acad 13, NT, Canon Color Printing -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:***** Looking for a Position ***** -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Multiple Configurations for R13C4a -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:NT 4.0 Alpha + Rel 13 -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:File Conversion -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:ADE or AutoCAD MAP?? Anyone use it?? -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:ACAD R13_C2 and Windows 95: I get Shell command error when I try to execute DOS command from SHELL -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:clip art -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:How to plot rendered objects in PS? -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Problems plotting .DWG w/Excel spreadsheet inserted. -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Hatch Pattern -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:AutoCAD and Parametric Drafting -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:carpet take-off software -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Acad system printer driver -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Raster to Vector conversion -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Can't get Softdesk 7.5 to work on NT 4.0 -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Acad system printer driver -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Acad system printer driver -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Internal Error !DBSPACE.CC3 -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Redering and 3D view crashes r12c3 for DOS under network environment -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Network plotting with ACAD12 (DOS) -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Globally Change Attribute Text Size -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Autocad to high resolution bitmap conversion -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:New Video Crd for Acad 12-dos -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:NT 4.0 and Sentinal HW lock -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: Re:Nth Engine driver for R13 -- From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Subject: ACAD LT 95 Heap Error -- From: dharch@mail.pcez.com (DAVID HILTS)
Subject: Re: I made a Shareware program - Advices Needed !!! -- From: "Scott Hallmark"

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Subject: Re-define attribute laden title blocks
From: civic@direct.ca (Keith Biggs)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 15:57:18 GMT
I want to re-define the attributes in my title blocks and re-insert this into 
an existing drawing. The title block will re-define, however, the changes are 
not visible. The only way I can get around this is to erase the old title 
block and insert the new one and fill in the new values one at time. Needless 
to say, I do not want to do this to all of my drawings invidually. 
Any Suggestions?
Keith
civic@direct.ca
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Subject: script file for editing attributes
From: civic@direct.ca (Keith Biggs)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 16:04:06 GMT
I would like to develop a script file so that I can modify the revision 
dates, number and description for my titleblocks, rather than doing this 
manually. I have figured out how do this if there is an existing value 
assigned to the tag, but have problems when there is no value to the tag.
I can ddattedit these titleblocks and fill in the missing data, however this 
takes too long and sometimes information can be entered wrong or only 
partially. I would like to modify this process so that I enter the same data 
for all the drawings once and it is done.
Is this request possible?
Thanks
Keith
civic@direct.ca
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Subject: Re: Converting attribute-text from blocks to std. text
From: (Reini Urban)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:08:03 GMT
frodech@login.eunet.no (Frode Christiansen) wrote:
>We have several attribute blocks to fill in the text in the title
>block and pos. num. in the drawing. (ACAD R13 C4a)
>
>The text theese attributes contains, I would like to have exctracted
>and placed in the same posistions on the drawing but as normal text
>entities.
>This because some of my customers who I'm exchanging drawings with, do
>not insert attributes in theis systems as a company policy..
>Therefore, all my attributes text is not inserted into their
>CAD-sowtware.
I've done it several times for ArchiCAD users which got surveyors DXF
files. Most of other cad programs ignore attributes though they are just
simple text entities. Because the need appeared to grow I planned a dos
program which converted the DXF's in no time at all.
I tried ATLAST but couldn't handle it properly and almost solved it in
perl. When I'll have to do it again and have more time than 3 hours,
I'll finish this perl for sure.
But then I redid it in plain AutoLISP using some functions of mine in a
script which runs over all DWG's.
Function: (att2text) 
Program: ATTCONV (converts all attributes to its text representation)
Its in my URBAN X utils. But the Win versions are not usable now,
hardcoded time expired today :(, but the dos version works well until
end of feb 97
But my best advice is to force your customers to switch to AutoCAD. :)
Its usual in Austria, but depends on your type of business who is on the
stronger end. 
Maybe thats why AutoDESK has such a weak DXF reader ...
---
Reini Urban, TU Graz, Architecture & X-RAY
 http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/
Attention! From: header is garbled on purpose!
(defun tail (l n)
  (cond ((zerop n) l)
        (t (tail (cdr l) (1- n)))))
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Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ?
From: Kevin Jones
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:15:30 -0800

> What is a Stationary engineer?  It's not a term I've come across in the
> UK civils industry.  Save, perhaps, to describe an engineer having a nap
> in a slow afternoon :)
They pay me for what I know, not so much what I do.  "Stationary" is the
operative word (grin).
> --
> Shaun Lewis,                        The Dredging and
> Assistant Estimator                 Construction Company Ltd.
  A Stationary Engineer is a licenced trade, and is *usually* in charge
of the boiler
room, and associated equipment (refrigeration, ventilation, steam
generation and use).
  The majority are involved in anything from medium to heavy industries
(i.e. from
small fire-tube boilers in manufacturing plants, to 1000 MW generating
stations).
  In Ontario, Canada (and the rest of the provences, I believe), every
plant must have
a Chief Engineer, who would normally supervise the Shift Engineers,
maintenance staff, and many engineering projects (hence the business
cards).
  A boiler room is quite often called the "power plant", so sometimes
Stationary 
Engineers are called "Power Engineers" (the trade is actually called
Power Engineering,
the tradesmen Stationary Engineers).
  When the steam locomotive had its day, the person in charge of the
boiler and engine
was called a "locomotive engineer" or "steam engineer".  People who ran
nearly identical
equipment (boilers and steam engines), whose machinery was firmly
affixed to the ground,
were called "Stationary Engineers" (our boilers don't go anywhere
(grin)).  Same equipment on ships, "Marine Engineers".
  A while back we did have a bit of a dust-up over the use of the term
"Engineer". I guess the Society of Professional Engineers felt they had
the exclusive rights to the name "Engineer".  But it seems "Power
Engineers" were around and using the name long, long, before any
"Professional Engineers" showed up (grin).  So now (and please, anybody
correct me if I am wrong, it's happened more than once) only those
recognized by the Society, and Power Engineers, are allowed to use the
term.
  Now that everybody knows more about Stationary Engineers than they
ever wanted to
know, I hope that answers the rest of the questions in the other posts.
K. Jones
Kjones@interlynx.net
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Subject: Softdesk in play
From: "Tony Tanzillo"
Date: 20 Dec 1996 17:08:44 GMT
It appears that Softdesk is in play, and is the target of
a hostile acquisition by a third party. As a result, Autodesk
has raised its offer from $12 to $15/share:
------------------------------------------------------------
 Autodesk Inc. has raised its takeover bid for Softdesk Inc. 
to $15 a share, or about $90 million, after a second, 
unidentified suitor made a competing proposal, the software 
companies said Friday.
     Under the definitive agreement, Autodesk will pay the 
$15 a share in common stock based on the average closing 
prices for the five trading days before the closing date.
     The companies had originally announced a price of $12 
a share, or about $72 million, on Dec. 10. Softdesk closed 
at $10.50, and Autodesk closed at $27.75 on Nasdaq on Thursday.
     "We have increased the purchase price principally in 
response to an indication of interest received by Softdesk 
from a third party," said Carol Bartz, Autodesk chairman and 
chief executive.  
Dave Arnold, the chief executive of Softdesk, said the 
Henniker, N.H.-based company was committed to the Autodesk 
merger, which will be accounted for as a pooling of interests.
-----------------------------------------------------------
There is a possibility that the 3rd party that is showing
interest in Softdesk is Parametric Technology Corp., which
has recently made it very clear that it has its ironsights 
aimed squarely at Autodesk.
-- 
/*******************************************************/ 
/*   Tony Tanzillo     Design Automation Consulting    */
/*    Expert AutoCAD Programming and Customization     */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*      Co-Author of Maximizing AutoCAD R13 and        */
/*        Maximizing AutoLISP for AutoCAD R13          */
/* --------------------------------------------------- */
/*             71241.2067@compuserve.com               */
/*           tony.tanzillo@worldnet.att.net            */
/*   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tonyt    */
/*******************************************************/
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Subject: Re: mtext string substitution?
From: ddp@awwwsome.com (Dave Jones)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 08:21:52 GMT
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:07:07 GMT, ddp@awwwsome.com (Dave Jones) wrote:
>Hi all
>Is there a way to substitute one string for another in multiple
>instances of mtext in a drawing? I have over 100 drawings done for a
>project with each drawing having many different mtext notes referring
>to a C4 x 7.5 steel channel. The channel is actually a C4 x 7.25 steel
>channel. Can I change 7.5 to 7.25 with lisp? Sure don't look forward
>to doing it one note at a time :-(
>Any help would be appreciated.
Just a public thanks to Scott Drager who obviously spent much of his
time to work me through this via e-mail. The routine that he wrote
worked like a charm on Mtext and I wrote it into a script file and
altered the offending text strings in 102 .dwg files while at lunch.
The routine that Scott came up with follows for anyone else who is
interested in it. THANKS SCOTT!
;Definitely a hack and slash Brute Force program.
(defun c:renum(/ found dwgtext textnum count editit teststr testlgn
tcount newtest
               newstr t)
        (setvar "cmdecho" 0)
        (setq found 0)
        (setq dwgtext(ssget "x"(list(cons 0 "MTEXT"))))
        (setq textnum(sslength dwgtext))
        (setq count 0)
        (while (< count textnum)
                (setq editit (entget (ssname dwgtext count)))
                (setq teststr(cdr (assoc 1 (entget (ssname dwgtext
count)))))
                ;Why waste time checking strings that are obviously
too short?
                (if (< 7 (strlen teststr))(progn
                       (setq testlng(- (strlen teststr) 1))
                       (setq tcount 1)
                            (while (> testlng tcount)
                                       (setq newtest (substr teststr
tcount 8))
                                       (if(= newtest "C4 X 7.5")(setq
found 1)
                                       (setq found 0))
                                       (if (= found 1)
                                             (progn
                                               (setq newstr (strcat
(substr teststr 1 (- tcount 1)) "C4 X 7.25" (substr teststr (+ 8
tcount))))
                                               (setq editit
(subst(cons 1 newstr)(assoc 1 editit) editit))
                                               (entmod editit)
                                               (setq found 0)
                                             )
                                     )
                         (setq tcount (+ 1 tcount))
                         )
               )(setq t nil))
        (setq count (+ 1 count))
        )
        (setvar "cmdecho" 1)
        (princ)	
)
Also thanks to Sunny Barker who submitted a routine that, although
doesn't work on Mtext, is a valuable routine for use on text strings.
It will go in my lisp database for my next text screwup.
regards,
Dave Jones ddp@awwwsome.com
from lovely downtown Burney, CA
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Subject: snapping misses corners even with snap mode off
From: "Steven P. Schneider"
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:28:16 -0500
I'm working with a drawing exported back to AutoCAD
from some other package.  Other drawings are OK, but this one is
strange.  If I snap to anything on the drawing, the points miss the
intersections, ends, etc; they are just off, and the amount of
error seems to be independent of the zoom setting -- always a half-mm
or so on the screen.  If I dimension a part, snapping to the ends,
the snap points are off, but the lines snap to the part ends after
the command is complete.  Some parts of the dimension stay with the
inaccurate snap points and some parts don't, so it looks terrible.
	Snap mode is off, and grid is off.  What could be doing this?
		steve
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Subject: Creating ads applications
From: kroche@fox.nstn.ca (Keven Roche)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 17:03:25 GMT
HI
I am tring to complie an ads application, gravity.c which was supplied
with acad r12, I have miscrosoft visual c++ which comes with a command
line complier "cl".  I printed the readme doc in the acad\ads directory
and am tring to follow the instructions there in.  However I am running
into some problems.
First off I don't have a lib called llibc7 or mcsads6, where do I find
these?
Next I really have no idea what I am complieing, should I not be creating
and *.exp file??
Any help please.
-- 
Keven Roche
Cad Designer II
NAUTEL Ltd.
Halifax Nova Scotia
Canada
kroche@fox.nstn.ns.ca
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Subject: Re:Draftpro EXL driver for NT4 with ACAD13C4 wrote:
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:07:28 -0800
Frederic Toussaint  wrote:
>Where can help me?
>How I have to install the plotter, that I can use it in NT4?  I havn't
>found a driver for Draftpro EXL. Which driver I have to use?
>How then I have to install the plotter in ACAD, that I can plot my dwgs?
>When I want plot from another workstation over the network, what I've
>there to done?
>
>Sorry, but I'm a Newbie with plotters.
>
>Hope for answer
>
>Frederic
>________________________________________________________
>
>Frederic Toussaint                  Tel. 0721 / 608-6056
>CIP-Pool der Fakult=E4t XII           Fax. 0721 / 69 37 17
>76128 Universit=E4t Karlsruhe
>E-mail: frederic.toussaint@wiwi.uni-karlsruhe.de
>WWW   : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~wiwi/cip/index.html
>________________________________________________________
Fredric,
In Windows NT you have the print manager. Just open it up and 
install a new printer . It should surely have the draft pro EXL
model. If not then install the other HP pen plotter model.
From NT you can plot only using either system printer option or
using the AutoSpool method.
You can find a detailed white paper at the Autodesk web site at 
the technical support section
http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
Using the Autospool method you can plot it in network.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:bubble jet problems
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:22:21 -0800
rjb2@axe.humboldt.edu (Richard J. Burstiner) wrote:
>I installed a bubble jet driver into the autocad drv directory.
>I can configure the computer to printer, but I can't get an image.
>The printer runs through the sequence, but no ink is deposited on the 
>paper.  The printer works fine with Word and Excel.  How can I make 
>AutoCad12 communicate with my Canon Bubble jet 4100? 
>
Richard,
Did you got any specific drivers for AutoCAD from your dealer. Just visit
the canon web site at
http://www.usacanon.com
and find out if any is available. Then install it and check out.
Also check whether AutoCAD is been properly configured for the 
ports , interrupts as per the guidelines in the AutoCAD Installation manual.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:autoCAD LT: Dimensions!
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:24:01 -0800
Cody Fearon  wrote:
>I have problems with the dimensions.  When I select architectual it
>gives coordiantes in the right way but when I do dimensions it does it
>in decimal inches.  i nned to fix this!!
>
>Mail me at Zero@epix.net please!!
>
Cody,
Just goto the DDIM command , goto the Annotation part .
Select the  Primary units and click the UNITS button.
Now In the dialog box that appears select the Architectural units
you are looking for. You also have option to stack the fractions to.
Now say ok and when coming to the main dialog box , just click
on the SAVE button to save the style. Now you will get the dimensions 
the way you are looking for.
:)
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:C4a patch = Fatal Error
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:04:40 -0800
"Mr. John Teisberg"  wrote:
>Applied the R13c4a patch to R13c4 and get "Fatal Error, Incorrect acad-xmx file".
>
>Anyone have any ideas? I'm looking for a magic bullet before I reinstall Atuocad.
>
>Thanks in advance,
> 
>John Teisberg
>Industrial Illustrations
>1460 Simpson St.
>St. Paul, MN  55108-2341 USA
>Phone & fax 612.645.9299
>
John,
I feel that the patch floppies you have is not the correct one.
Is the patch is for locked version or unlocked version of R13c4.
Please check up this.
Did you upgraded your system recently to something like from Windows 3.11
to 95.
Please let me know .
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:Acad 13, NT, Canon Color Printing
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:25:42 -0800
movpix@vaxxine.com (Mike Fancy) wrote:
>Testing a new system in our office, prior to purchase:
>
>Windows NT 4.0 Workstation
>Pentium 133 System 64 meg ram
>Autocad 13
>Roland Pen Plotter
>Canon Color BubbleJet printer for draft output
>
>Problem is getting color output from the Canon Color BubbleJet 240.
> 
>We are using the "SYSTEM PRINTER" option in Acad13, assuming that it will
>print in color on the inkjet.  No such luck.  We are only getting black 
>and white output, even on colour drawings which plot in colour on the 
>Roland Plotter.
>
>Any ideas?
> 
>Thanks,
>
>
>Mike
>
>
Mike,
Configure again for the system printer option and give YES to the option
when it asks for DO YOU WANT COLOURED OUTPUTS?
This should solve the problem.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:***** Looking for a Position *****
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:14:09 -0800
Mahesh Chitnis  wrote:
>Dear Sir/Madam :
>
>I am interested in the employment opportunity as a designer or CAD expert. 
>I have a strong architecture, computer training, help desk and facility
>management background. I would be pleased to be considered for the
>position, if you have any. 
>
>I have a reputation for being a reliable and enthusiastic employee. 
>Self-motivated, determined and hard working; these are the qualities I
>possess which would make me an excellent employee in contruction related
>position. I possess strong management skills and am an eager team member.
>I know I am sending a multipage resume. But I am sure you will be happy to
>read every line of it.
>
>I have very quick learner I look forward to further discussing your needs
>and may be reached at (201) 343-0374 after 6:00pm(EST) on weekdays and
>anytime on weekends. Will you please suggest me how and when I can get in
>touch with you?
>
>Your guidance in finding an appropeate position will also be highly
>appreciated.
>
>I am ready to join your team anytime in new year.  I am ready for a long
>term commitment and ready to relocate anywhere in US. Looking forward for
>a favourable reply from you. 
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mahesh Chitnis
>
Mahesh,
Take a look at Dennis Shinn's homepage. He has a separate career opportunities
page at
www.halcyon.com/jeeper/saug/saughome.htm
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:Multiple Configurations for R13C4a
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:16:26 -0800
Richard MacDonald CET  wrote:
>Help...
>
>
>Does anyone know of a way to get Win95 version R13C4a to allow multiple
>configurations as was done in older DOS versions?  I would like to be
>able to set up one session to run using a set of default drivers,
>drawings, etc and another for older AutoFlow setup. I want to have two
>distinct setups, and not just reset the environment variables in the
>preferences each time I go to switch from AutoCad to AutoFlow P&ID;
>software add in.
>
>Thanks in Advance
>-- 
>*****************************************************************
>Richard MacDonald CET Comfort Design Specialists Inc.
>Building Automation Systems Specialists Including:
>    - HVAC Controls Automation Systems
>    - Controls Design and Engineering
>    - Automation Systems Service
>Tel. (403)254-5787
>Fax. (403)256-3868
> 
>   See our home page at : http://www.cadvision.com/cdsi
>
>    macdonar@cadvision.com  or  Comfort_Design@msn.com
>*****************************************************************
>
Richard,
Yes. You can do it. In the Windows95 screen you create another icon of 
AutoCAD  R13. Now modify the icons property so that the working directory
points to that of the Autoflow you have. Now copy the acad.cfg and the 
acad.ini to that directory . 
The command line should be something like this.
c:\r13\win\acad.exe /c c:\autoflow
Now click on the icon to start the program .
Now you have a separate acad.cfg as well as the acad.ini file.
You can have any no. of icons like this.
In case of any problems please let me know.
:)
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:NT 4.0 Alpha + Rel 13
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:05:53 -0800
Gary Rider  wrote:
>I upgraded to release 13 and found it will not load with Dec Alpha NT
>4.0. Has anyone else experienced this?
>
>Is there a patch or upgrade to fix this?
>
>Thanks Gary Rider
>
Gary,
Which version of R13 you have. Is it R13c4a. This officially supports 
NT4.0
Take a look at the Autodesk web site for the installtion procedure on NT
4.0 Dec Alpha at
http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:File Conversion
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:30:16 -0800
tgarrisi@netonecom.net (Thomas Garrisi) wrote:
>Where I work, we had some engineering drawings done for us by a design house 
>which was using IBM Mainframe Cadam at the time. Is anyone aware of a 
>shareware or software program which would make the translation of the Cadam 
>files into AutoCad.dwg We have had trouble trying to use them from a .dxf 
>format and are looking for a simpler way. The design house we used can do the 
>translation but for a substantioal cost per file. Any suggestions would be 
>appreciated. Thanks in advance - Daddy Gee  tgarrisi@netonecom.net
>
Thomas,
There is a product called AEMULUS and AEMULUSMF from Autodesk to this typr 
of conversion. It is bi directional and it will help you a lot.
Just visit the Autodesk web site for more information on the 
product. 
http://www.autodesk.com
Also contact your nearest Autodesk dealer for more information.
G.Rajesh
//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
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Subject: Re:ADE or AutoCAD MAP?? Anyone use it??
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:17:12 -0800
"rr"  wrote:
>Just wondering if there is anyone out there that can answer some questions
>for me on these products. I have yet to find any WWW resources or any new
>literature on either of these programs!! If you know anything or can offer
>me some guidance please let me know.
>
>
rr,
Yes, Sure.Visit the Autodesk web site 
http://www.autodesk.com
and look at the products sections. Also contact your local Autodesk
dealer for any more information .
Please post your problems here in the newsgroup or send me mails.
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:ACAD R13_C2 and Windows 95: I get Shell command error when I try to execute DOS command from SHELL
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:19:27 -0800
sma@kvl.dk (Sten Madsen) wrote:
>My ACAD R13 C2 worked fine with Windows 3.11, but after I installed
>Windows 95 I can't execute DOS commands from ACADs shell command. Can
>this problem be solved or do I need to have a Windows 95 release of
>ACAD R13?
>
>Any suggestions will be welcomed.
>Sten Madsen
>
Sten,
This is a known problem. This is been solved in R13c4. You can get your media
set replaced with your dealer. This is a full installation version and
you need to use the NEW option while installing.
Apart from this R13c4 version contains some more new commands also and it
is true windows 95 compatible version.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:clip art
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:18:22 -0800
"jeff koebrich" 
>I am new to autocad...are there libraries of pre-drawin parts i.e.
>electronic components and connnectors that I could buy or find to use in my
>drawings instead of doing my own?
>
There are lot of third party products on the symbols you are looking
for. Just visit the Autodesk web site for the registered developer site
and do a search for it.
http://www.autodesk.com
You can also refer the Autodesk resource guide for the type of symbol
libraries you are looking for.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:How to plot rendered objects in PS?
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:20:16 -0800
calvin@bif.com (YoMaMa) wrote:
>I am using R13.  I want to plot a 3d drawing with rendered surfaces
>instead of wire frame in paper space, does any one know how I could do
>that?  When I plot the drawing in paper space, the printer plot out a
>wire frame of the drawing instead.  I could use the rendering window
>option of the rendering dialog box, or simply save the rendering as a
>file.  But I cannot do that in paper space.  
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Cl
>
Rendering is meant only for the Model space. You have to save the rendered
image into a file and then plot them in the rendering window.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Problems plotting .DWG w/Excel spreadsheet inserted.
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:20:59 -0800
"Tim Bridge"  wrote:
>I have a drawing that I have copied an Excel spreadsheet into for a
>schedule. When I go to plot I can see the inserted spreadsheet in the full
>print preview, but it does not plot.
>
>What can I be doing wrong?
>
>I am using ACAD r13c4a Win95
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>-- 
>
>
>Tim
>
>TKBridge@cris.com
>
Tim,
Just configure for the SYSTEM PRINTER option in the plotter configuration 
and take a plot. This is the cause of it.
You can take plot OLE objects only using the SYSTEM PRINTER.
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Hatch Pattern
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:24:41 -0800
"Jason Smith"  wrote:
>Does anyone have a wood grain (true wood grain) hatch pattern.  I don't
>want to purchase an entire arch package just to get one.  Please let me
>know.
>
Smith,
Just visit the web sites advertised like 
http://www.cadalog.com
http://www.buildingweb.com/cadsyst
http://www.cadonline.com
http://www.acadlp.com
etc.,
You may find it available there.
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Subject: Re:AutoCAD and Parametric Drafting
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:06:39 -0800
"S.A.Jacklin"  wrote:
>Does anyone know of a lisp routine / ADS application that will allow me
>to parametrically draft.
>	i.e. Draw a line put a dimension on it, and then be able to edit the
>dimension (change the length) and the line length changes
>corespondingly.
>-- 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>|S.A.Jacklin@ncl.ac.uk    (WORK) | Being Ginger is BAD              |
>|Steve@wackoj.demon.co.uk (HOME) | Being a Student is BAD           |
>|www.wackoj.demon.co.uk          | But being a Ginger Student ..... |
>
Have you seen the demo of Autodesk Designer add on to AutoCAD.
Call up your nearest Autodesk dealer for more info.
Apart from this there are lot of third part programs also to do this type
of 2D drafting whereas Designer is a Bidirectional parametric feature 
based solid modeler.(2D & 3D)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:carpet take-off software
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:14:57 -0800
Tom Biel 
>We currently use Softdesk's AutoArchitect v7.5 and AutoCAD v13.  We are
>looking for software to do accurate carpet/flooring take-offs rather
>than relying on the installers.  Autoarchitect will calculate areas now,
>but we would actually like to produce a "cut-list" and ideally, diagram
>the installation seams, taking into account the flooring pattern-match.
>If you or a third party offer such software, please advise.  THANK YOU!
I am really not sure. I assume you are looking for a software that does
the cutting of the flooring and creating  the optimum floor drawing out
of it.
If this is the case , then take a look at the Registered developer 
section at the AUtodesk web site.
http://www.autodesk.com
Don't laugh at me, I think you can also use any of the good sheet metal 
software also to do this. Instead of the carpet , you are going to use the 
sheet. :)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Acad system printer driver
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:27:26 -0800
"jon shapiro"  wrote:
>Has anybody worked with the AutoCAD ADI 4.2 driver for the Windows system
>printer in R13?  I am trying to set up an HPGL/2 system printer driver so
>that I can plot drawings containing embedded Raster images (such as Excel
>Spreadsheets).  I have things working pretty well except for one quirk.  I
>can't calibrate my plotter.  There is about a 1% error in the X axis.  I
>discovered that the calibration settings for the system printer do not
>stick.  They get written to the ACADNT.CFG file but are immediately
>replaced as soon as I plot or exit AutoCAD.  
>
>I have tried making the changes and marking the ACAD.CFG as read only. 
>AutoCAD just undoes the read only flag.  I am running release 13 c4a.
>
>They sure haven't made it too easy to deal with plotting these combined
>drawings.  There is also no means to control the scaling of the images or
>freeze thawing, etc.
>
>-----
>Jonathan Shapiro
>JonShapiro@worldnet.att.net
>
>
You cannot plot the OLE objects other than the SYSTEM PRINTER OPTION.
To do with the scaling you can just drag the grip points of the pasted
objects and do it. 
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Raster to Vector conversion
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:08:25 -0800
dmitzel@computerland.net wrote:
>Our firm needs to scan a number of drawings for use in Autocad.  As the 
>local scanning company has no conversion software, we need to purchase a 
>raster-to-vector program pronto.  If anyone out there has one they are 
>happy with, especially if you have tried several, please send your 
>recommendations to us.
>
>TIA for any info.
Try using the Raster to vector software CAD OVERLAY ESPLFX add on from 
Softdesk. Call your nearest Autodesk dealer for more information on it.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Can't get Softdesk 7.5 to work on NT 4.0
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:31:18 -0800
Clay Reichert  wrote:
>I can't seem to get Softdesk 7.5 to work on NT 4.0. Autocad installed 
>and works fine but Softdesk installation did not create a create a group 
>on my program directory. Why might this have happened? The program files 
>reside on the hard drive. Double clicking on the Softdesk icon does not 
>cause anything to happen. Please help me.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Clay
>
Just follow the instruction in the installation guide. You have to
create a program group of your own and copy the icon of AUtocad into it
and add the necessary path and file to the run program.It is very well 
given in the manual.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Acad system printer driver
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:28:40 -0800
"jon shapiro"  wrote:
>Has anybody worked with the AutoCAD ADI 4.2 driver for the Windows system
>printer in R13?  I am trying to set up an HPGL/2 system printer driver so
>that I can plot drawings containing embedded Raster images (such as Excel
>Spreadsheets).  I have things working pretty well except for one quirk.  I
>can't calibrate my plotter.  There is about a 1% error in the X axis.  I
>discovered that the calibration settings for the system printer do not
>stick.  They get written to the ACADNT.CFG file but are immediately
>replaced as soon as I plot or exit AutoCAD.  
>
>I have tried making the changes and marking the ACAD.CFG as read only. 
>AutoCAD just undoes the read only flag.  I am running release 13 c4a.
>
>They sure haven't made it too easy to deal with plotting these combined
>drawings.  There is also no means to control the scaling of the images or
>freeze thawing, etc.
>
>-----
>Jonathan Shapiro
>JonShapiro@worldnet.att.net
>
>
You cannot plot the OLE objects other than the SYSTEM PRINTER OPTION.
To do with the scaling you can just drag the grip points of the pasted
objects and do it. 
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Acad system printer driver
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:29:24 -0800
"jon shapiro"  wrote:
>Has anybody worked with the AutoCAD ADI 4.2 driver for the Windows system
>printer in R13?  I am trying to set up an HPGL/2 system printer driver so
>that I can plot drawings containing embedded Raster images (such as Excel
>Spreadsheets).  I have things working pretty well except for one quirk.  I
>can't calibrate my plotter.  There is about a 1% error in the X axis.  I
>discovered that the calibration settings for the system printer do not
>stick.  They get written to the ACADNT.CFG file but are immediately
>replaced as soon as I plot or exit AutoCAD.  
>
>I have tried making the changes and marking the ACAD.CFG as read only. 
>AutoCAD just undoes the read only flag.  I am running release 13 c4a.
>
>They sure haven't made it too easy to deal with plotting these combined
>drawings.  There is also no means to control the scaling of the images or
>freeze thawing, etc.
>
>-----
>Jonathan Shapiro
>JonShapiro@worldnet.att.net
>
>
You cannot plot the OLE objects other than the SYSTEM PRINTER OPTION.
To do with the scaling you can just drag the grip points of the pasted
objects and do it. 
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Internal Error !DBSPACE.CC3
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:09:16 -0800
Marc Brousseau  wrote:
>I'm having a problem with one of my dwg files. Each time that I try to
>open it, the error !SPSPACE.CC3 keep occuring which stop the drawing
>from loading up (it get up to 43% before this error appears). I've tried
>recover, bring the file in as a block, renaming the file but I still get
>the same error. If anyone has a solution it would be appreciated, since
>I just finish this drawing for release. It was OK last night and this
>morning I cant open it for ploting.:-(
>
>Regards,
>Marc
>
Marc,
It looks there is something wrong with the system too. Is there any bad
sectors in your machine. 
Just open the drawing. While it starts loading and says regenerating , press
ctrl+c . Now just take a DXF file output and quit this drawing.
Open a new drawing file and use the DXFIN command and open the drawing
file and save it to a different file name and location. I have seen this
error appears if the file allocation of the directory where it lies has gone
bad. 
Do also a Scandisk and defrag. Please also visit the autodesk web site for
a detailed paper on this topic at the technical support section
http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.html
Please also send me the drawing if possible.
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Redering and 3D view crashes r12c3 for DOS under network environment
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:03:35 -0800
"Charles Yang"  wrote:
>Help. all the gurus out there!!!
>I have this totally strange problem, PLEASE help me.
>
>Environment: 	educational institution, multi-purpose lab.
>		Operates with 20 networked ACAD station under DOS.
>Software:	network installation of ACAD r12c3, Novell 3.12, 
>		MS-DOS v6.22, Client32 for dos/win3.x
>Hardware:	Unisys 486 dx2/66, 8MB RAM, 
>		Summagraphic digitizer
>Problem: 	Now these days, lab users kept encopuntering with system crash 
>		when they try to do a 3d view /object shifting, and or rendering. 
>		I have been investigate on this issue for a month now, I seems 
>		can't find any reference on it. Even with Autodesk's web site. The
>strange thing is,
>		I have no this kind of poroblem before. 
>		I supected there is a memory problem, and the network station conflict
>		but no luck with it. (what I did include rewrite and inspect acad.cfg and
>acadr12.bat,
>		 network lock, increase the swap mem. size on local station.) 
>		Viro infection? No trace of any.
>		I am also suspecting Novell's Client32 for DOS/WIn3.x version-- the
>latest client update.
>		I re-config and rewrite the net.cfg, to max. the connectivity and
>other.----no luck. 
>		the station still crashing whenever it does not like the redering job..
>
>I really beat my brain out on this, is there any guru out there, can help
>me with this?
>
>Please, send email to yangc@dbcc.cc.fl.us, or reply on the group.
>
I feel that it is not able to find any swap file while doing rendering.
I have seen this type of problems. Just do a CHKDSK/F and remove all the
temporary swap files. Delete the render.cfg file and check whether it is 
been given common read write sharing access rights.
Meanwhile I will look into the other possibilities.
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Network plotting with ACAD12 (DOS)
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:12:17 -0800
zechner@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at (Christoph Zechner) wrote:
>I have problems to configure ACAD 12 c1 for DOS to plot to a
>file and then starting a batch file, that should copy the
>plot file to a network plotter. 
>
>I have modified my acad start batch by setting the ACADPLCMD
>to a batch file called plot.bat.
>
>acad start batch:
>SET ACADPLCMD=plot.bat %s
>
>plot.bat:
>copy %1 /b lpt1:
>
>When using the filename AUTOSPOOL, the plot files are
>created in the spool directory, which I have configured, but
>the batch file, that should copy the files to the plotter
>does not execute. What is wrong? Do I really need a TSR
>spool program to copy the files?
>
>cu Christoph
>
>
Cu,
Just visit the Autodesk  web site for a detailed white paper on 
Printing from AutoCAD using AutoSpool option at the technical 
support section
http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Globally Change Attribute Text Size
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:01:36 -0800
Bob Stirling wrote:
>I need to change the Text Size of Attribute Tags for about 1000 blocks.
>Is there an easy way to do this with a global command (lisp program)? 
>I have looked for a lisp routine, but haven't found anything. Using Acad r13 c4, NT 3.51.
>
>Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
>
>Bob Stirling
>Geological Drafting Services
>Whitehorse, YT
>gdraft@polarcom.com
>http://north-land.com/gds/
Just visit the Autodesk shareware sites like
http://www.builidingweb.com/cadsyst
or 
http://www.cadalog.com
or 
http://www.cadonline.com
or 
http://www.acadlp.com
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Autocad to high resolution bitmap conversion
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:02:30 -0800
neff  wrote:
>I would like to be able to convert autocad vector files into a high
>resolution (200-300 DPI bi-tonal, images) bitmap format such as a GIF
>or TIFF.  Most would be 11" by 17" drawings.  I don't believe
>Autocad has a way of doing this.  Are there any utilities available
>that can do such a conversion.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave Neff
>neff@inetarena.com
>
Dave,
Use the SAVEIMG command and check out the options. It can save the file
into the desired format like gif,tiff at the resolution you have on your
configuration. Also see the RASTER OUTPUT FORMATS at the plotter configuration
You have lot more formats out there.
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:New Video Crd for Acad 12-dos
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:09:52 -0800
"J. Jones"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I need some advice on a Video Card for Acad 12 for Dos.  We've always 
>used Diamond Stealth 64's with the enclosed Panacea Turbodld drivers, in 
>the past with no problems, but on my new system I'd like to buy with the 
>future in mind -- DirectX capability, maybe 3D.  Does anyone know if the 
>newer cards, example 3D, still come with the ACAD 12 drivers?  I will be 
>running a dual boot system with ACAD 12 running with the MS Dos 6.22, and 
>Win 95 as the other alternative.
>
>Thanks for any info,
>
>Janet
>
Janet,
Take a look at the recent issues of CADALYST magazine. It had a cover story
review regarding the different 2D & 3D graphics boards and its drivers. I 
hope this will help you selecting the correct one of your choice.
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:NT 4.0 and Sentinal HW lock
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:10:56 -0800
"Thomas J. Morrow"  wrote:
>I just upgraded to Autocad r13C4a on a pentium system running NT
>Workstation 4.0.  This was a single user version educational upgrade so
>it was accompanied by a Sentinal Hardware lock.  I installed the Autocad
>software and the HW lock and its driver without a hitch.  However
>Autocad will not run and comes up and telling me that the lock is either
>not working or installed properly.  I've tried 2 different locks from my
>vendor.  I have also tried every possible setting for the parallel port
>in my systems bios, including bidirectional, EPP and ECP.  Nothing
>works.  I even installed an NT 4.0 patch that I found on Microsoft's NT
>web site related to NT 4.0 and dongles attached to the parallel port. 
>Still no luck.  Has anyone had a similar problem and possibly found a
>solution.  
>
>Because I'm at the U of Michigan I upgraded to the educational version
>from my commercial version of ACAD r12 because it was cheaper than
>upgrading to the commercial copy.  Looks like a mistake in the long
>run.  Right now I feel as though I have wasted my money on this
>upgrade.
>
Thomas,
You just can't run AutoCAD R13 by inserting the lock in your system with 
Windows NT .
You have to use the NSRVGX.EXE program to install the lock. Visit the 
Autodesk Web site for a detailed paper on this installation on NT
at the technical support section.
http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
G.Rajesh
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Subject: Re:Nth Engine driver for R13
From: hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:11:24 -0800
Mack Rasmussen  wrote:
>Hi, I'm running R12 DOS using the nth engine driver for Acad.  I have
>become very used to the zooming and panning capabilities this driver
>offers.  My company is dictating that I upgrade to R13 NT any chance
>there is a same or similar zoom and pan capability offered by Nth or
>someone else.  I've had an attempt made to write this capability in
>AutoLISP but without success.  The key is minimizing the number of mouse
>picks.  I work from an entire plant layout drawing 500 yards by 300
>yards and need to zoom in to 12"x12" window, begin a line, zoom all the
>way back out, pan, and zoom back in to a 12":x12" window.  Can anybody
>help me?  An email response is fine.
>
>Thanks Carl    ccor@cadcamsys.com
>
Carl,
AutoCAD R13 has a inbuilt display driver called WHIP . This helps you 
to pan and zoom the drawing in real time. The commands are RTPAN
and RTZOOM. This will be very helpful to do the job you are looking for.
In the case of DOS version of R13 c4 you have hidden commands like AV.
Just try this and see the performance. This is really fast.
You can also type DLX and see all the remaining commands in R13c4 dos
version.
:)
G.Rajesh
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Subject: ACAD LT 95 Heap Error
From: dharch@mail.pcez.com (DAVID HILTS)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:09:00 GMT
I am getting a heap error message when loading a large (1.4 meg.) file
with Acad LT 95.  I can load the drawing on my pentium 133 (32 megs of
ram) machine but my 486 (16 megs of ram) machine will not load it.
What is a heap error?
Reply to dharch@mail.pcez.com
thanks
Dave Hilts
Portland, Oregon
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Subject: Re: I made a Shareware program - Advices Needed !!!
From: "Scott Hallmark"
Date: 20 Dec 1996 17:30:58 GMT
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What does your program do? I have many that I have written.  Unless you are
a big-time company,  you won't make squat.  It all depends on who has the
bucks to advertise, like in Cadence and Cadalyst, BIG one page ads!
Sorry to bust your bubble.  I would like to see your demo...depending on
what it does.  What are you gonna charge?  I have found that $10-20 is the
best way to go, because, yes I know you spent 4 months working on it,  but
people will not pay you 4 months worth of programming time to save them
maybe 20 minutes to 1 hour a day.  Don't be too proud of your product, or
at least don't charge as if you're proud of it.  I'll even swap some of
mine for some of yours???
Whatever.
Scott Hallmark
Network Administrator/Webmaster/CAD Analyst
hallmark@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~hallmark/hallmark.html
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> Hi,
> 
> I will ship, early next year, a shareware version of an AutoLISP
> program. The program is huge and took more than 4 months of
> developpement. I also bought Vital Lisp 2.0 to compile the program
> into an ARX file. I'm very serious about it. The shareware version
> will be a full working copy but will have the limitation of ....
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What does your program do? I have many = that I have written.  Unless you are a big-time company,  you = won't make squat.  It all depends on who has the bucks to = advertise, like in Cadence and Cadalyst, BIG one page ads!

Sorry = to bust your bubble.  I would like to see your demo...depending on = what it does.  What are you gonna charge?  I have found that = $10-20 is the best way to go, because, yes I know you spent 4 months = working on it,  but people will not pay you 4 months worth of = programming time to save them maybe 20 minutes to 1 hour a day. =  Don't be too proud of your product, or at least don't charge as if = you're proud of it.  I'll even swap some of mine for some of = yours???

Whatever.

Scott Hallmark
Network = Administrator/Webmaster/CAD = Analyst
hallmark@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~hallmark= /hallmark.html



cyberben@total.net = wrote in article <32b89f21.2422359@news.total.net>...
> Hi,
>
> I will ship, = early next year, a shareware version of an AutoLISP
> program. The = program is huge and took more than 4 months of
> developpement. I = also bought Vital Lisp 2.0 to compile the program
> into an ARX = file. I'm very serious about it. The shareware version
> will be a = full working copy but will have the limitation of ....

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