Subject: Re: Re-define attribute laden title blocks
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:27:27 -0600
In article <59ed0u$ls2$1@orb.direct.ca>, civic@direct.ca says...
> I want to re-define the attributes in my title blocks and re-insert this into
> an existing drawing. The title block will re-define, however, the changes are
> not visible. The only way I can get around this is to erase the old title
> block and insert the new one and fill in the new values one at time. Needless
> to say, I do not want to do this to all of my drawings invidually.
Keith,
Have you looked at used ATTREDEF? It most likely wont perfor exactly as
you desire but it's not too bad. I'm looking at developing a program to
redefine attribute blocks, much in the same way that redefining just a
regular block does when inserting blkname=c:\blkname. Meaning, you don't
need to recreate the block by selecting the objects, and have the
attribute values remain the same, AND have the attributes postition and
rotation update with the drawing. Kind of a "HOMEATTRIB" command much
like "hometext" does for dimensions.
I just went through this same problem about 5 minutes ago.
Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: Acad 13, NT, Canon Color Printing
From: AGEITGEY@AUGUSTA.NET (Warren Geitgey)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:44:45 GMT
I ran into this problem when buying a BJC4550 and after contacting
Canon, I found out that they do not and never will support Windows NT
(any flavor). The Nt drivers don't support color. You may wish to
spend $400 (g) to ask MS how to do it, then let me know. Good luck
>
>Testing a new system in our office, prior to purchase:
>Windows NT 4.0 Workstation
>Pentium 133 System 64 meg ram
>Autocad 13
>Roland Pen Plotter
>Canon Color BubbleJet printer for draft output
>Problem is getting color output from the Canon Color BubbleJet 240.
>
>We are using the "SYSTEM PRINTER" option in Acad13, assuming that it will
>print in color on the inkjet. No such luck. We are only getting black
>and white output, even on colour drawings which plot in colour on the
>Roland Plotter.
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
Subject: US-OH-CAD Operator/Designer-Aide Inc.
From: recruit@aide.com (Recruiting Department)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:50:49 GMT
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Subject: Re: copy to layer?
From: hkp@ncia.com (Brian Poppe)
Date: 20 Dec 96 16:21:56 GMT
Doug,
Try this lisp routine. It may have been published in CADalyst or
CADence a few years ago. If not, it was written by Dave Todd.
Just load the lisp file and start it with the command "cla"
Good Luck,
Brian Poppe
The Henry Klein Partnership
;;; CLA.LSP - COPIES SELECTED ENTITIES TO A DESIGNATED LAYER
(DEFUN C:CLA ()
(setq tl (getstring "enter Target Layer "))
(SSGET)
(COMMAND "COPY" "P" "" "0,0" "0,0")
(COMMAND "CHANGE" "P" "" "P" "LA" TL "" "C" "BYL" "")
(PRINC)
)
--
Brian Poppe
The Henry Klein Partnership
hkp@ncia.com
Subject: acad 12 dxf problems
From: Burkhard Wangenheim
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:07:31 +0100
hello world!
we have some troubles with acad 12 dxf files. some time ago, i imported dxf
files into corel4, which was no problem. now i tried to import these files into
corel 6 but failed; only a part is displayed. afterwards, i tried to re-import
these files into acad and also failed! why couldn't acad read its own dxf-
files???
a message like 'a polyline must have at least 2 vertices' or '7* unknown block'
appeared and no re-importing was possible. is there a possibility to solve
that? can i change the dxf's or the dwg's before converting them to dxf?
many thanks in advance for a short email!
best regards from stuttgart, germany,
burkhard wangenheim
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Subject: HELP: Internet Utilities config problem!
From: mep@raita.oulu.fi (Marko Poutiainen)
Date: 19 Dec 1996 14:08:00 GMT
I have been unable to intall AIU and I need to complete a job with it
before Sunday, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
The problem is simple: When configring the driver in ACad, the program
says it unable to load this file (??_dwf.dll).
I have tried reinstalling the package several times, to no avail.
The other problem, maybe related, is that when installing AIU, the
installation program says, it's unable to find Netscape Navigator Gold,
even though it definitely is installed. Then when starting ACad, I get the
error message "Unable to find default browser. You will not be able to
start the browser within this program".
What can I do?
--
Marko Poutiainen | These are my principles.
mep@raita.oulu.fi | If you don't like them, I have others.
http://raita.oulu.fi/~mep/ | -Groucho Marx
Subject: Re: I dimension in paperspace because .
From: papabear@roadrunner.com (Jerry Anderson)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:00:22 GMT
Rich.Thelen@115-904.station1.planetc.com (Rich Thelen) wrote:
WONDERFUL TIP!!!!
It's things like this that make wading thru 100+ posts a day
worthwhile!
Thanks Rich!
>I like D Shinn's answer. But I prefer to do all my geometry in modelspace,
>no notes, no dims. I just open another drawing, xref the model, and add
>notes, dims, and using viewports, scale-ups of details etc. The model has no
>paperspace info at all.
>This allows a more intuitive dimensioning method, and the dimensions are with
>the drawing that uses them. They never show up on the model itself. It also
>allows opening other views of the model in other drawings and not being
>bothered with dims you aren't interested in. The assemblies I use have a
>sheet for all orthographic views. If I change a detail in the model, it is
>immediately changed in all the assembly sheets. I use paperspace for notes
>and viewports and BOMs.
---
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"It's time to throw all their damn tea in the harbor again!"
Subject: Career in AutoCAD Good Idea?
From: dslmbe@aol.com (Dslmbe)
Date: 20 Dec 1996 20:51:44 GMT
Most of my work experience is in the Printing Industry as Pressperson and
in
Prepress, so AutoCad as a career move may not be feasible but the field
sure
has my interest. I have no past history in Drafting, Engineering, or
Architecture
but am very computer literate and was hoping a Cad "Pro" could give me
their opinion or relate a similar experience of a career change.
As far as training goes, Comp-U-Cad, an authorized dealer in Carpenteria
Ca.,
(No this is not a Sales pitch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), has a 17 week course on
a DOS platform
that is reasonably priced.
My main concern is will I be considered for an entry level Cad position
based
entirely on this course?. Common sense tells me no but I hoping I'm
wrong.
Thank You for your time and (hopefully responses).
Dennis Lohse`
denmbe
Subject: Programita Lisp
From: jmilan@arquired.es (Javier Milan)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:24:36 GMT
Nada, que he hecho un progrma Lisp que me parece muy util, y lo pongo
a disposicion del personal, comentadme si os va bien.
Saludos,
Javier.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
TRIDI.lsp ;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;; El programa simplifica la construccion 3D en AutoCad, mediante
el;;;
;;; cambio de sistemas de coordenadas de una forma agil, usando los
;;;
;;; botones del raton, o las teclas ESPACIO,INTRO,... Probad!
;;;
;;; Funciona tanto en AutoCad ingles como internacional.
;;;
;;; ----------------------------------------------------------------
;;;
;;; Javier Milan, Diciembre de 1996 ............. jmilan@arquired.es
;;;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;; Funcion principal
(defun tridi( / *error* errorv pto1 v1 v2 v3 v4 tam cen tam1 cen1
salida)
(terror)(inicio)(pincha)(ponucs)(cuadv)
(while (/= salida T) (pidept)))
;;; Funcion de error
(defun terror() (setq errorv *error* *error* errorn))
;;; Funcion de inicio
(defun inicio()
(setq salida nil)
(guavar)
(guaucs)
)
;;; Pinchar un punto para empezar
(defun pincha()
(Initget (+ 1 2 4))
(Setq pt0 (getpoint "\nPunto inicial: "))
)
;;; Poner primer ucs
(defun ponucs()
(command "_ucs" "o" pt0)
)
;;; Dibujar/borrar el cuadradito virtual
(defun cuadv()
(cheq1)
(setq alt (* 0.1 tam) aln (- 0 alt)
dob (* 2.0 alt) don (- 0 dob)
v1 (list alt alt 0) m12 (list 0 dob 0)
v2 (list alt aln 0) m23 (list don 0 0)
v3 (list aln aln 0) m34 (list 0 don 0)
v4 (list aln alt 0) m41 (list dob 0 0)
)
(grdraw v1 v2 -1)
(grdraw v2 v3 -1)
(grdraw v3 v4 -1)
(grdraw v4 v1 -1)
(grdraw m12 m34 -1)
(grdraw m23 m41 -1)
)
;;; Funcion pidepunto
(defun pidept()
(cheq1)
(initget 16)
(if (= (setq pto1 (getpoint '(0 0 0) "\nSiguiente punto: "))
nil)
(progn (cheq2)(cuadv)(cbucs)(cuadv))
(progn (cheq2)(cuadv)(dblin)(cuadv))
)
)
;;; Dibuja la linea
(defun dblin( / lin pto2)
(command "_line" '(0 0 0) pto1 "")
(setq lin (entlast))
(setq pto2 (trans pto1 1 0))
(command "_ucs" "e" lin)
(setq pto1 (trans pto2 0 1))
(command "_ucs" "o" pto1)
)
;;; Cambiar el sistema de cooordenadas
(defun cbucs( / u2 v2)
(setq u2 (list 0 1 0)
v2 (list 0 0 1))
(command "_ucs" "3p" '(0 0 0) u2 v2)
)
;;; Funcion de chequeo
(defun cheq1()
(setq tam (getvar "viewsize")
cen (trans (getvar "viewctr") 1 0))
)
;;; Otra funcion de chequeo
(defun cheq2()
(setq tam1 (getvar "viewsize")
cen1 (trans (getvar "viewctr") 1 0))
(if (or (/= tam tam1) (not(equal !cen !cen1)))(cuadv))
(setq tam tam1)
)
;;; Guardar variables
(defun guavar()
(Setq oldcmd (getvar "cmdecho"))
(Setq oldblip (getvar "blipmode"))
(Setq oldhigh (getvar "highlight"))
(Setvar "cmdecho" 0)
(Setvar "blipmode" 0)
(Setvar "highlight" 0)
)
;;; Guardar el UCS
(defun guaucs()
(command "_ucs" "_d" "kk")
(command "_ucs" "_s" "kk")
)
;;; Rutina de error nueva
(defun errorn (s)
(cuadv)
(princ "\nTerminado. ")
(setq *error* errorv)
(fin)
)
;;; Funcion de fin
(defun fin()
(setq salida T)
(resucs)
(resvar)
(princ)
)
;;; Restaurar el UCS
(defun resucs()
(command "_ucs" "_r" "kk")
(command "_ucs" "_d" "kk")
)
;;; Restaurar variables
(defun resvar()
(Setvar "cmdecho" oldcmd)
(Setvar "blipmode" oldblip)
(Setvar "highlight" oldhigh)
)
;;; Comando ejecutable
(defun c:tridi() (tridi))
(princ "\n Tridi cargado.")
(princ)
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; fin
Saludos,
Javier.
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jmilan@arquired.es
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Subject: Re: snapping misses corners even with snap mode off
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:12:36 -0600
In article <32BABEA0.3681@ecn.purdue.edu>, steves@ecn.purdue.edu says...
> I'm working with a drawing exported back to AutoCAD
> from some other package. Other drawings are OK, but this one is
> strange. If I snap to anything on the drawing, the points miss the
> intersections, ends, etc; they are just off, and the amount of
> error seems to be independent of the zoom setting -- always a half-mm
> or so on the screen. If I dimension a part, snapping to the ends,
> the snap points are off, but the lines snap to the part ends after
> the command is complete. Some parts of the dimension stay with the
> inaccurate snap points and some parts don't, so it looks terrible.
> Snap mode is off, and grid is off. What could be doing this?
Steve,
You might want to check your viewres setting. This could cause AutoCAD
to "appear" that it is not going to the endpoints.
Sincerely,
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Subject: FS: Canon BJC-4550 11x17 bubblejet $415 or best offer
From: buzz@ibm.net (Dave Simons)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:13:40 GMT
I recently bought a Canon BJC-4550 11x17 bubblejet printer, and
realized I just don't need the wide-carriage. I paid around $550 for
the printer about a month ago, and I've put about a dozen sheets
through it, max. All manuals, driver disks and ink cartridges
included. Black ink cartridge never used, still in protective holder.
I've haven't even filled out the registration cards yet. Included
software still in shrinkwrap. For all practical purposes, this printer
is still new.
The lowest price I've seen for this printer recently is $499, at
Office Depot; it's yours for $415+shipping, or best offer.
All the details on this 11x17 Wide-Carriage bubblejet printer are at:
http://www.ccsi.canon.com/printers/bjc-4550/index.html
Send all offers/inquiries to:
Dave Simons
buzz@ibm.net
Subject: Re: Q:How same menu name for DOS and WIN?
From: Desi Moreno
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:38:54 -0800
Heiko Ploehn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have the same menu-filename, say heiko.mnu in different directorys,
> e.g. \r13\win and \r13\dos. But if I open in DOS a drawing which was
> previously opened in Windows, acad13 tells me that it can not find
> \r13\win\heiko.mnu . This is correct, because in DOS \r13\win is not in
> the search path. But how can I tell Acad13 to take only heiko.mnu as the
> menu, and use the first heiko.mnu that it finds, instead of searching
> for \r13\win\heiko.mnu?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Heiko
Hieko, Why not create a directory called menu, under the r13 directory,
and place the menu files there.
When you open a drawing, the menu that was last used is stored in the
drawing database, path included.
This should solve your problems.
se ya
--------------------------------------
Mr. Desi Moreno
Electrical Engineering Technician
dmoreno@vs1.invsn.com desim@mid.org
http://www.invsn.com/desmos/autocad.htm
Subject: Re: Programita Lisp, in english
From: lwehnes@onr.com
Date: 21 Dec 1996 00:47:12 GMT
In article <59epqu$jve$1@diana.ibernet.es>, jmilan@arquired.es (Javier Milan) says:
inserted, with english subtitles
>------------------
>jmilan@arquired.es
>------------------
>
The following with english subtitles
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;TRIDI.lsp ;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;; El programa simplifica la construccion 3D en AutoCad, mediante el
;;; The program simplifies the construction of 3D in Acad, through the
;;; cambio de sistemas de coordenadas de una forma agil, usando los
;;; change of coordinate systems in an "agile" mode, using the
;;; botones del raton, o las teclas ESPACIO,INTRO,... Probad!
;;; mouse buttons, or the space, intro (others) keys.. Try it!
;;; Funciona tanto en AutoCad ingles como internacional.
;;; Works in both Acad English language ver and International.
;;; ----------------------------------------------------------------
;;;
;;; Javier Milan, Diciembre de 1996 ............. jmilan@arquired.es
;;;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;;; Funcion principal, principal function
(defun tridi( / *error* errorv pto1 v1 v2 v3 v4 tam cen tam1 cen1salida)
(terror)(inicio)(pincha)(ponucs)(cuadv)
(while (/= salida T) (pidept)))
;;; Funcion de error, error functions
(defun terror() (setq errorv *error* *error* errorn))
;;; Funcion de inicio, starting (initial) function
(defun inicio()
(setq salida nil)
(guavar)
(guaucs)
)
;;; Pinchar un punto para empezar, pick first point
(defun pincha()
(Initget (+ 1 2 4))
(Setq pt0 (getpoint "\nPunto inicial: "))
;;;(Setq pt0 (getpoint "\nFirst point: "))
)
;;; Poner primer ucs, set first ucs
(defun ponucs()
(command "_ucs" "o" pt0)
)
;;; Dibujar/borrar el cuadradito virtual, draw/erase in virtual "square"
(defun cuadv()
(cheq1)
(setq alt (* 0.1 tam) aln (- 0 alt)
dob (* 2.0 alt) don (- 0 dob)
v1 (list alt alt 0) m12 (list 0 dob 0)
v2 (list alt aln 0) m23 (list don 0 0)
v3 (list aln aln 0) m34 (list 0 don 0)
v4 (list aln alt 0) m41 (list dob 0 0)
)
(grdraw v1 v2 -1)
(grdraw v2 v3 -1)
(grdraw v3 v4 -1)
(grdraw v4 v1 -1)
(grdraw m12 m34 -1)
(grdraw m23 m41 -1)
)
;;; Funcion pidepunto, "ask point function"
(defun pidept()
(cheq1)
(initget 16)
(if (= (setq pto1 (getpoint '(0 0 0) "\nSiguiente punto: "))
;;;..................................................."\mNext point: "))
nil)
(progn (cheq2)(cuadv)(cbucs)(cuadv))
(progn (cheq2)(cuadv)(dblin)(cuadv))
)
)
;;; Dibuja la linea, draw line
(defun dblin( / lin pto2)
(command "_line" '(0 0 0) pto1 "")
(setq lin (entlast))
(setq pto2 (trans pto1 1 0))
(command "_ucs" "e" lin)
(setq pto1 (trans pto2 0 1))
(command "_ucs" "o" pto1)
)
;;; Cambiar el sistema de cooordenadas, change coordinate system
(defun cbucs( / u2 v2)
(setq u2 (list 0 1 0)
v2 (list 0 0 1))
(command "_ucs" "3p" '(0 0 0) u2 v2)
)
;;; Funcion de chequeo, checking function
(defun cheq1()
(setq tam (getvar "viewsize")
cen (trans (getvar "viewctr") 1 0))
)
;;; Otra funcion de chequeo, another checking function
(defun cheq2()
(setq tam1 (getvar "viewsize")
cen1 (trans (getvar "viewctr") 1 0))
(if (or (/= tam tam1) (not(equal !cen !cen1)))(cuadv))
(setq tam tam1)
)
;;; Guardar variables, save variables
(defun guavar()
(Setq oldcmd (getvar "cmdecho"))
(Setq oldblip (getvar "blipmode"))
(Setq oldhigh (getvar "highlight"))
(Setvar "cmdecho" 0)
(Setvar "blipmode" 0)
(Setvar "highlight" 0)
)
;;; Guardar el UCS, save UCS
(defun guaucs()
(command "_ucs" "_d" "kk")
(command "_ucs" "_s" "kk")
)
;;; Rutina de error nueva, new error routine
(defun errorn (s)
(cuadv)
(princ "\nTerminado. ")
;;;.........."\nDone: "))
(setq *error* errorv)
(fin)
)
;;; Funcion de fin, ending function
(defun fin()
(setq salida T)
(resucs)
(resvar)
(princ)
)
;;; Restaurar el UCS, restore saved UCS
(defun resucs()
(command "_ucs" "_r" "kk")
(command "_ucs" "_d" "kk")
)
;;; Restaurar variables, restore saved variables
(defun resvar()
(Setvar "cmdecho" oldcmd)
(Setvar "blipmode" oldblip)
(Setvar "highlight" oldhigh)
)
;;; Comando ejecutable, load command
(defun c:tridi() (tridi))
(princ "\n Tridi cargado.")
(princ)
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; fin
Saludos,
Javier.
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jmilan@arquired.es
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Subject: Re: LISP Routine to view Slides and/or Slide Libraries
From: dyoung@mcwi.com (Darren Young)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:05:14 -0600
In article <32BB02E0.4D7E@aus.etn.com>, msummers@aus.etn.com says...
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking for a way to view a sequence of slides in a particular order at a particular speed. Anyone have any LISP routines I can plararize
> to accomplish this?
>
Mark,
Look at using a script file. The "delay" command will allow you to pause
your slide show for a specified amount of time.
Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: Re:Acad 13, NT, Canon Color Printing
From: "Ben T. Eisemann"
Date: 21 Dec 1996 00:31:14 GMT
Mike,
You might want to go to Canon's web site and get the latest version of the
Autocad driver for their CANON color printers (there really is one!). The
page can be found at
http://www.ccsi.canon.com/care/download/bjprinters.html. E-mail me if you
get it to work okay.
Hope it works,
Ben T .Eisemann
G Rajesh wrote in article
<59eb5m$ehd@lex.zippo.com>...
> movpix@vaxxine.com (Mike Fancy) wrote:
>
>
> >Testing a new system in our office, prior to purchase:
> >
> >Windows NT 4.0 Workstation
> >Pentium 133 System 64 meg ram
> >Autocad 13
> >Roland Pen Plotter
> >Canon Color BubbleJet printer for draft output
> >
> >Problem is getting color output from the Canon Color BubbleJet 240.
> >
> >We are using the "SYSTEM PRINTER" option in Acad13, assuming that it
will
> >print in color on the inkjet. No such luck. We are only getting black
> >and white output, even on colour drawings which plot in colour on the
> >Roland Plotter.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Mike
Subject: Re: Softdesk > Autodesk ?
From: Red Bird
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:48:17 -0500
Tim Kirwan wrote:
<>
> everyone that i know that has tried eaglepoints product now use it for
> what it is ment to be used for, a dood stop.
What's a dood stop?
Seriously, EaglePoint did lower prices significantly in the market.
Softdesk has had to improve their product and lower prices to answer
Eaglepoint.
On the other hand, I would not buy Eaglepoint again - but I do not want
AutoCAD to become a closed shop. I don't know how many of you remember
the closed shop of IBM, where even minor items (such as a light pen)
cost hundreds of dollars.
I have a tremendous database of information, all in Autodesk's
proprietary file format. I do not want to be held hostage to arbitrary
pricing by a company that has me by the balls.
So, I have no answer. I wish that someone would offer a quality
alternative to AutoCAD+Softdesk before Autodesk figures out just how
much it can bleed us without quite killing us. The bigger Autodesk
gets, the less it cares about the one and two man shops that once were
its bread and butter, and where many of us work.
Yan Seiner
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Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop
From: Kent@accessone.com (Kent Keller)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:16:14 GMT
On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:24:27 GMT, pappy@deltanet.com (pappy) wrote:
>Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly
>constraints to a
>tangent arc/circle?
>I sketch my subject, convert it into a profile, add constraints and
>add dim's
>but won't let me dimension a quadrant/tangent, only the center!
>Need Help!!
>
>Thanks,
>Pappy
>Even the Ref dimensions won't work. Is there any short cut commands?
Pappy
You are probably just picking to close to the arc which will
jump to the center,. Try picking the farther up the line that is
tangent to the arc. The dimensions I would guess just use a form of
the near osnap. I have found no easy way to dimension to quadrant that
aren't tangent tho.
Kent W. Keller
K.Wi.K
Kent@accessone.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop
From: pappy@deltanet.com (pappy)
Date: 21 Dec 1996 05:07:18 GMT
In article <32bb46a5.1111846@news.accessone.com>, Kent@accessone.com says...
>
>On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:24:27 GMT, pappy@deltanet.com (pappy) wrote:
>
>
>>Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly
>>constraints to a
>>tangent arc/circle?
>>I sketch my subject, convert it into a profile, add constraints and
>>add dim's
>>but won't let me dimension a quadrant/tangent, only the center!
>>Need Help!!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Pappy
>>Even the Ref dimensions won't work. Is there any short cut commands?
>
>Pappy
>
> You are probably just picking to close to the arc which will
>jump to the center,. Try picking the farther up the line that is
>tangent to the arc. The dimensions I would guess just use a form of
>the near osnap. I have found no easy way to dimension to quadrant that
>aren't tangent tho.
>Kent W. Keller
>K.Wi.K
>Kent@accessone.com
Kent,
I recevied this from Russell at a000369@airmail.net
> Is it possible to diminsion tangencies and applying assembly constraints to a
> tangent arc/circle?
No. But there is a way around it. You must use what they call
construction lines. The best way to show an example is to send faxes. My
work fax is 214-257-7223 in Dallas Texas. But if you do not have access
to a fax, I will try to explain an example.
Draw a circle. Place a line in the center of the circle at a 30 degree
angle and trim the lines to the edge of the circle so that both ends
line on the circle and the midpoint is in the cente. No use chprop
command to change the linetype to hidden, or anything but continuous.
You might what to change the color so that you know it is a construction
line. You have to change the properties, not just place it on another
layer. Now use amprofile and select the circle and the line. Now use
ampardim and select the line. then select a point in space on where the
origin of the dim will be placed. The size of the circle does not
matter. Now amextrude to 1". This may not be the best example.
Try this. Let me know how it works. It is hard to describe what you
want to do, With out a picture.
It worked great! Constuction lines are very usefull.
The other problem I am haveing is to find a way to constrain a tangent/arc/quad
to another part
Example: Take a .250 dia wire that is bent at 90 degrees or any degree and
apply
constraints to the tangencey of the arc/quadrant and have it sit flush with a
flat surface or tangent with another arc/quadrant.
Thanks for your reply
Merry Christmas and have a happy new year!
Pappy
