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In article <32C8A69B.415E@mlode.com>, davet@mlode.com says...
>
>Has anyone found a text editor or whatever that will fully justify text?
>I would like to insert notes and specifications (which usually take a
>full sheet themselves) and have the clean appearance of a word
>processor.  I'd rather let the plotter do the work rather than mess with
>the Xerox machine and stick-back mylar.
R13 has MTEXT
This may or may not be what your looking for but it does use a word 
processor to put text in, the interal processor my even work.  I have only 
played with it and it does work though slowly.
RJ Ewing

I have a new computer with windows NT 3.51 on it.
(free 4.0 upgrade on the way)  I installed a new
version of R13 c4, now when I first go into AutoCAD
& pick the pulldown "file" menu & try to pick one 
of the last four dwgs. I worked on, I get a dialog 
box that says "save the active document with a new 
name" my only option at this point is to hit 
the "OK" button, after that it goes back to the 
active or unnamed dwg.  It keeps on doing this like 
it is stuck in a loop, my only option is to do a 
"file" "open" & manually pick the dir. & dwg. that 
I want to work on.  
I am new to NT 3.51 & c4, previously used win 3.x & 
c3 w/ no problems.
Any help would be appreciated !
                             Mike Wallace

In article , 
dyoung@mcwi.com says...
Bas,
Oops.  I forgot to allow for the "description" prompt.  This is now the 
correct code.
(defun c:test (/ x1 y1 y2 ent)
;*** when AutoCAD crashes the 'explode group'-command willl be useless
;*** and.....AutoCAD will crash
   (if (= yes 1)(command "._-GROUP" "EXPLODE" "TEST_GROUP" ""))
   (setq x1 0
      y1 0
      y2 10
      yes 1
      teller 1
   )
   (command "._ZOOM" '(0 0 0) '(250 250 0))
   (command "._LINE" (list x1 y1 0) (list x1 y2 0) "")
   (setq ent (entlast))
   (command "._-GROUP" "CREATE" "TEST_GROUP" "" ent "")
   (repeat 250
      (setq x1 (+ x1 10 )
              teller (1+ teller)
      )
      (if (> x1 200)
         (setq x1 0
            y1 (+ y1 20)
            y2 (+ y2 20) 
         )
      )
      (command "._LINE" (list x1 y1 0) (list x1 y2 0) "")
      (setq ent (entlast))
;;Added this line here **************************************
      (command "_.-GROUP" "EXPLODE" "TEST_GROUP")
;;Changed the ADD to CREATE and added the (P)revious entities
;;to the selection set.    **********************************
      (command "_.-GROUP" "CREATE" "TEST_GROUP" "" "P" ent "")
      (princ "\n")(princ teller)
   ) 
)
Sincerely,
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I recommend starting with 
for Autodesk history.

Help! Help!  My deadline is fast approaching and I can't get a solid torus to work right.  I'm 
drawing a 3d assembly which will be sliced.  I've tried using the solids torus to make an 
o-ring seal, but when I hide lines or shade it disappears.  It will work with a meshed torus, 
but then I can't slice it.  I can fudge for the time being, but this is driving me nuts.  Any 
ideas??
Cindy
aeainc@ix.netcom.com

In article <01bbf736$bf6ff220$0f4697c2@pc3>, vandenen@IAEhv.nl says...
> I've written an application in AutoLISP, which makes use of groups (new
> AutoCADr13 feature), and discovered a problem with the group-add-command.
This does appear to be the case.  I haven't played around with it much to 
come up with a better solution.  For now, you can explode your group.  
The recreate it selecting the "previous" entities and then adding the 
selected entity.  I've modified your code below.
Bas,
(defun c:test (/ x1 y1 y2 ent)
;*** when AutoCAD crashes the 'explode group'-command willl be useless
;*** and.....AutoCAD will crash
   (if (= yes 1)(command "._-GROUP" "EXPLODE" "TEST_GROUP" ""))
   (setq x1 0
      y1 0
      y2 10
      yes 1
      teller 1
   )
   (command "._ZOOM" '(0 0 0) '(250 250 0))
   (command "._LINE" (list x1 y1 0) (list x1 y2 0) "")
   (setq ent (entlast))
   (command "._-GROUP" "CREATE" "TEST_GROUP" "" ent "")
   (repeat 250
      (setq x1 (+ x1 10 )
              teller (1+ teller)
      )
      (if (> x1 200)
         (setq x1 0
            y1 (+ y1 20)
            y2 (+ y2 20) 
         )
      )
      (command "._LINE" (list x1 y1 0) (list x1 y2 0) "")
      (setq ent (entlast))
;;Added this line here **************************************
      (command "_.-GROUP" "EXPLODE" "TEST_GROUP")
;;Changed the ADD to CREATE and added the (P)revious entities
;;to the selection set.    **********************************
      (command "_.-GROUP" "CREATE" "TEST_GROUP" "P" ent "")
      (princ "\n")(princ teller)
   ) 
)
I't will run a little slower but it's a workaround.  You hight want to 
play with the highlight variable to help speed up the selection of 
entities.
Sincerely,
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I found a couple of bugs I've been working around, wondered if anyone has
been working in this arena yet.
Thanks
terryc@natec.com

Seems I can't download a file from the web.  I am a user of sprint and 
am trying to download off of the web.  when I try to download I don't 
get any time to download or any info about it's progress.  any response 
will be greatly appreciated.
Coriell

Can't respond to anyone Is the network messed up? Or is it just my 
machine?

This question has been answered many times now, but why not
add one more suggestion?
Use the autoload feature!
That means that you will not occupy more of your RAM than needed.
Add the following line to your ACAD.lsp (that is automaticly loaded
each time you open a drawing:
(autoload "MYLISP" '("COMMAND1" "COMMAND2"))
This will "auto-load" your lispfile "MYLISP.lsp" each time you use either
of the two commands defined there (cammand1 or command2). Just be
sure that MYLISP.lsp is in your support area.
Harald
Check out my download-site:

If you can read this, you can figure out the answere yourself.
Harald

Everyone' trying out Santa Clauses goodies and the net is slowed way down
Just wait a while for the new to wear off them and it'll pick up!! hehe
My 2 cents

ACAD understands units only.  That is to say that one unit is equal 
to one unit.  It dosent matter if it's a millimeter, cubit, parsec, 
etc.  You get the picture?
Your total station equipment is recording items in decimal feet 
which is a "unit" of measurement.  ACAD is seeing items in decimal 
units from your TS equipment like this:
1.1 units to your TS equipment is equal to 1.1 feet.
ACAD sees it as 1.1 inches because you have your units set to 
engineering or archetictural.
Switch your units to decimal prior your DXF import.  Better yet. 
always draw in decimal units when you're dealing with Civil type 
applications.  They transfer better and it's easier to work with.  
Using Decimal Units one must not remember that 1" is equal to .833' 
or whatever the translation is because you're not dealing with 
inches but fractions of a foot.
Decimal Units was designed for Civil applications such as those 
being received by TS equipment.  or mapping software.
Leave Architectural and Engineering units to those applications 
that require fractions of an inche such as building design and 
machine design.  Decimal Units are "REAL MAN'S UNITS" (its an 
inside joke and you had to be there).
If this really bothers you then you can always use the scale 
command and scale everything up "times 12" and "warp" it back into 
shape.  Should you ever use any other items such as electronic topo 
maps then you'll have to shrink it back down by a factor of 12.  
Words to the wise -- use decimal when working with Civil and 
Mapping applications.
***
All things should be made as simple as possible, but not any 
simpler.     -- Albert Einstein

Yes, please do!!  Happy new year to everyone here!!
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Please explain it to all us here. Isn't that what usergroup is about,
public place to exchange knowledge??
--
Vladimir Nesterovsky    ADS/LISP/C/C++ etc

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On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:56:17 GMT, vnestr@netvision.net.il (Vladimir
Nesterovsky) wrote:
>And what platform are you using? R13/Win95 probably??
>
>As for PS -- again, I simply break regens out with ^C  and then have only
>redraws (although I must know what I'm doing).
>
>On 31 Dec 1996 15:11:59 GMT,  - "XSales"  wrote in
>comp.cad.autocad:
>
>>Try facing yourself with a moderate size drawing, say 1MB.  2D, PS with 4
>>viwports, autoregen off.  Try customizing each vport and experience how the
>>program crawl.   May I remind you that my experience in this situation is
>>not pushing Autocad to the limit, but a simple reality in what you face in
>>trying to make your drawing an effective communication tool.   
>
>--
>Vladimir Nesterovsky    ADS/LISP/C/C++ etc
>
>
Cmon Vladimir, don't egg him on. He will remain unconvinced that his
is anything other that the Right and True Way (tm).
If it weren't for the amusement value, he would have made my killfile
some time ago.
--
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