Subject: Strange pointer behavior in R12 Win
From: Jim Frisby
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 02:09:00 GMT
One of my users keeps having the following problem in R12 for Windows on
Win 3.11.
Sometimes, his cursor cannot pick any pull down menus, or anything on
the toolbox, however, it can pick sidebar menus and toolbar picks. It
also acts normally int the drawing window. The cursor changes shape on
moving into the aforementioned areas as it should, except it just
disappears when crossing the toolbox. If you enter preferences (by
typeing at the command line) and un-check the toolbox, the problem goes
away, but if you turn off the toolbox by picking on the toolbar, the
toolbox moves or goes away, but the problem remains. This setup is
using Visual Tablet, which continues to work normally during the
problem.
Jim Frisby
jfrisby@pcmail.aai.arco.com
Subject: Re: Paper Space - Biggest Autocad blunder
From: acadspert@aol.com (A Cadspert)
Date: 4 Jan 1997 06:33:06 GMT
>Before I take you up on your, read the original challenge Very
>carefully(Annotate the model, not solprof, not a block, not an Xref,
>etc.)
O.K. You do the same thing without a viewport!!
If your gonna limit the tools to get the job done and by the way
good idea eliminating the best enemies to PS !!
Solprof gives you a much smaller drawing size and if the
geometry changes don't the annotations change anyway
you do it? Either PSpace or Solprof Dimensions have to be
stretched to match the model so the time you sit watching
regens I'm makin money!! Solprof's don't take very long to
reproduce...Surely less than a regen or two while Ps'in.
I realize that I'll never change anyones mind over this
but if your gonna push a way of doing things let the other
people use whatever resources they have to try to find a
way that is better to them!! Limiting people is not good
tactics in making a point.
Xref's are good for keepin drawing size down too!!
My 2 cents
T.
Subject: Re: ACAD on PowerMac
From: prh@srv.net
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 06:03:55 GMT
On 2 Jan 1997 07:16:53 -0800, hopltd@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (G Rajesh)
wrote:
>Su Elliott wrote:
>
>
>>We currently have release 12 installed on a Quadra 840av. It works fine
>>but slow. We purchased PowerFPU in order to transfer the program onto
>>one of our PowerMacs. I installed PowerFPU and then Autocad onto our
>>PowerMac 8100/80. When I try to start the application I get a message
>>that says 'Shared Library Manager not installed'. Well, the fact is, the
>>Shared Library Manager extension *is* installed, and I don't know how to
>>make the program work.=20
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>Su Elliott
>>Mayer/Reed
>
>Su - Release 12 may only run with the SLM that it includes in the installer
>(and no newer revision). Did you install the SLM version from the AutoCAD
>disks?
>
>G.Rajesh
>//Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
>
I had the same problem on my 6100, the only way I could get it to work
was to reinstall system 7.1, I had no luck with system 7.5 or 7.5.3. I
even tried to use the older extension from system 7.1 with system 7.5,
but that just locked up my Mac.
Subject: Re: Autocad Liscenses
From: mikefox1@aol.com (MikeFox1)
Date: 4 Jan 1997 07:02:44 GMT
> If purchasing older copies and upgrading tham was getting to be a
> problem, they could at least not allow older copies to be upgraded if
> transfered, and have upgradebable/transferable licenses for current
> versions.
Agreed. But I suspect Autodesk has another motive not metioned - locking
customers into their product. No individual or manager is going to be
able to justify switching to, say, SolidWorks when the money spent on
AutoCad licenses cannot be recovered by tranferring the license. Switch
from AutoCad, and throw your investment out the window.
I think this is a desperate attempt by Autodesk to maintain it's market
share in the face of stiff competition.
Mike F.
Subject: Re: Autocad Liscenses
From: mikefox1@aol.com (MikeFox1)
Date: 4 Jan 1997 07:36:52 GMT
> Good point. The buyer does not own the product, only the
> license to use it. The terms of the license are accepted
> at purchase, and if they are unfavorable to the buyer,
> well, he/she doesn't have to buy the product.
What about indviduals and companies that paid for the license knowing that
AutoDesk has always allowed license transfers in the past? This new
policy most definitely affects my willingness to pay for any AutoDesk
product in the future, and will probably lead to increased *multiple
installations* by small companies that have a fluctuating business cycle,
ie: consultants that staff up for a *big* contract could have lots of
unused licenses at the end of the contract - with no way to recover any
part of the cost.
Gives new meaning to the phrase... AutoCad Forever!
Mike F.
Subject: Re: PS - Biggest Autocad Blunder
From: "XSales"
Date: 4 Jan 1997 09:17:33 GMT
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Gregory--
The original posting was meant to emphasize PS terrible speed problem. I
am not arguing against anybody that indeed PS is a great concept. I am
sure many of work you have been successful and have taped the benefits of
PS. I did benefit from PS too but not with more complex projects.
While Randy and I were sidetrack on issue whether a drawings can be done
without PS, I did have a cool unorthodox way of doing. Be that 2d or 3d.
In my earlier posting I commented that Autodesk should consider
strengthening its XREF features. Reason for that PS speed problem might be
approached in that angle.
I am giving a chance to redeem yourself. But I could bring it on with you.
.............tough guy.;-)
Alex
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Gregory--
The original posting =
was meant to emphasize PS terrible speed problem. I am not arguing =
against anybody that indeed PS is a great concept. I am sure many =
of work you have been successful and have taped the benefits of PS. =
I did benefit from PS too but not with more complex =
projects.
While Randy and I were sidetrack on issue whether a =
drawings can be done without PS, I did have a cool unorthodox way of =
doing. Be that 2d or 3d.
In my earlier posting I commented =
that Autodesk should consider strengthening its XREF features. =
Reason for that PS speed problem might be approached in that =
angle.
I am giving a chance to redeem yourself. But =
I could bring it on with you. .............tough =
guy.;-)
Alex
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Subject: Re: Paper/Model Space problem
From: glena@bbs.cruzio.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:45:01 GMT
> glena@bbs.cruzio.com wrote in article ...
> [snip]
> > I'm just doing a simple, kinda lame thing where I want to (in paper
> > space) make a leader from a block that just puts the block name as
> > the dimension text. I know -- I know -- if I were working *only*
> > in model space, this wouldn't be a problem. Well, I'm not, so nah,
> > nah (or something equally as grown-up and professional sounding).
"S. Yoder" writes:
> Hummm....
> I envision something that goes like this:
> Enters into MSPACE (no, not tilemode toggling) if not there already
> Pause for user select of block
> Retrieve name
> Goes back to PSPACE
> Does the leader thing w/ allowance for user placement
> Pops in the text
> (Midling amount of error handling scattered thoughout)
As I wrote the post, this is kinda what I saw, too .... but it wasn't
nearly as elegant as I was hoping for. See, when dimensioning, I can
readily pick objects in viewports. I was kinda hoping for something
of the same in this routine.
> Be glad to write it if you buy me a liscense of AutoCad,
> seeing as how I'm on LT :)
LOL!! My condolences and deepest sympathy.
Actually, I was already writting the routine. When I tested it, I
picked the block in the viewport (from paperspace) and got "nil"
returned. I said "HEY! *That's* not how it's supposed to work."
Then I remembered that ya can't get there from here.
Your suggestion may be the best that I can do right now, though.
While that won't win you a lisence of AutoCAD, it *does* get you
a free pass. It's not worth much .... but it *is* free!
Oh, the other thing it's worth is my thanks. %-}
Thanks.
Do not underestimate your abilities. That is your boss's job.
It is your job to find ways around your boss's roadblocks.
_______________________________________________________________
Glen Appleby glena@bbs.cruzio.com http://www2.cruzio.com/~glena/
