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Subject: Re: 21 inch monitor.... which one? -- From: david@lookoutgfx.com (David Andriessen)
Subject: HELP! - CC Techjet driver crashing ACAD. -- From: SHughes
Subject: Re: Re:Config acad12 for win95 probs -- From: "Kristie Kaub"
Subject: Re: Converting English to Metric -- From: "Kristie Kaub"
Subject: Re: BMPOUT & WMF OUT SIZING -- From: Lu
Subject: Printing to file in postscript format -- From: tad@oz.net (Tad Deshler)
Subject: Re: Network Plotting in R12 DOS -- From: "Kurt Elfers"
Subject: Re: Converting English to Metric -- From: Michael Dougherty
Subject: Re: AutoCAD r13 Render under W95 -- From: "Tore Hanson"
Subject: Re: Re:Student wanting to purchase? -- From: "Bill Golightly"
Subject: Re: Eradicate renegade layer names? -- From: cadmike@pivot.net (Mike Cundiff)
Subject: Entity Checking with a 3rd party program -- From: rayc3149
Subject: Re: Acadlt for 95 reading rel. 13 files -- From: "S. Yoder"
Subject: Re: rendering software -- From: Andrew Nowicki
Subject: Re: Raster Images within Autocad -- From: "ICM"
Subject: Re: Stealth 3D 2000 -- From: "Jason Smith"
Subject: Re: Better Explation of AutoLisp "ssget" problem -- From: Mike Bos
Subject: How do convert an Acad R13 (windows) dwg to Acad R10 (DOS) dwg -- From: "Y. Gozman"
Subject: CAD Software for Students !!! -- From: educaer@aol.com (EducAER)
Subject: Re: 21 inch monitor.... which one? -- From: Bogdan Radu
Subject: HELP!!! I need a good CGM filter for AutoCAD r13 c4 for Win 95 -- From: "ICM"
Subject: plot error - queue full -- From: don
Subject: plotter/scanner for sale -- From: conchsoca@aol.com (Conchsoca)
Subject: Re: Convert R13w to R12 -- From: ccrox39754@aol.com (CCrox39754)
Subject: Re: Redefining AutoCAD Commnads -- From: "W. Kiernan"
Subject: Re: Vellum -- From: Rusty Gesner
Subject: Re: Converting English to Metric -- From: Jay Garnett
Subject: Re: layer list exporting -- From: Lu
Subject: MMX? -- From: "Cyber Funk!"
Subject: Dots lines printed in LT -- From: Fabrizio Croce
Subject: Re: Editing LT/95 colour palette. -- From: "S. Yoder"
Subject: Re: Softengine new drivers. Get them. -- From: "Jason Smith"
Subject: Re: Autocad 13 default directory -- From: "Jason Smith"
Subject: Re: AutoLisp "ssget" problem -- From: Morten Warankov
Subject: Re: 21 inch monitor.... which one? -- From: "Brian Hogan"
Subject: Re: AutoLisp "ssget" problem -- From: Mike Bos
Subject: question about importing text.... -- From: (hairball)
Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad -- From: eklauss@primenet.com

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Subject: Re: 21 inch monitor.... which one?
From: david@lookoutgfx.com (David Andriessen)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:03:50 +0100
I wouldn't settle for anything less then a Sony Trinitron tube. There are
some tubes that are based on the trinitron concept but I'd rather stick to
the real thing. There are also monitors based shadow mask tubes but their
color consistency across the whole screen doesn't satisfy me at all.
Check out the Sony GDM-20SEII,GDM-20TC or the GDM-W900. Workstation
manufacturers like SGI and SUN base their best monitors on these models.
--
david
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Subject: HELP! - CC Techjet driver crashing ACAD.
From: SHughes
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:03:36 -0600
We use the Calcomp Techjet Personal inkjet printer with R13c4 under
W95.  We also have the most recent Calcomp driver.  We can print fine,
but EVERY time we switch to a different plotter configuration (like to
make plots for our HP Designjets) Acad crashes with the message "Fatal
Error:  Unhandled Exception".  After we relaunch Acad, we can choose any
plotter/printer we want.  It's only after using the Calcomp, then trying
to switch, that it crashes.  It happens on every machine, most of which
are 486/66's w/16mb ram.
ANY help or ideas would GREATLY be appreciated.  Thanks in advance!
Steve
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Subject: Re: Re:Config acad12 for win95 probs
From: "Kristie Kaub"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:20:15 GMT
> For both the problems try using the SYSTEM PRINTER option. Visit the 
> Autodesk web site for a more detailed paper at the technical support 
> section at
> 
> http://www.autodesk.com/support/techdocs/techdocs.htm
> 
> G.Rajesh
> //Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
done that! system printer didnt work out as well as we'd hoped. it actually
created more work/steps for us to do and made it difficult to print both
8.5x11 and 11x17. 
any other solutions??
thanks!
k
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Subject: Re: Converting English to Metric
From: "Kristie Kaub"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:23:23 GMT
Town of Swan River  wrote in article
<01bc0303$2c183360$ad7aa3c6@grant>...
> We are a small town which has been using AutoCAD for about 3 years.
> 
> When we started using AutoCAD we worked in English units and English
> dimensions.
> 
> We now would like to change to metric.  We were wondering if there is a
> simple way to convert from English to Metric.  We know we can scale the
> drawings down to Metric size but is there a way to change the dimensions
at
> the same time.
> 
> We use AutoCAD R13 and AutoCAD LT '95.
> 
> Grant Schaffer
> Engineering Department
> townsr@swanvalley.freenet.mb.ca 
> 
there is for acad13.. not sure for LT. if you go to the preferences box,
there's an international area where you can switch the units from english
to metric.
kristie
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Subject: Re: BMPOUT & WMF OUT SIZING
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:01:10 -0500
radoil wrote:
> 
> When I attempt to send Autocad 13 bmpout and wmfout files to Word 7.0 they
> always show up as very small images.  How do you resize the images to fit
> the page?
> 
> Radoil, radoil@hic.net
Hi Radoil,
I find the best method for using the WMFOUT is th first zoom a window
around the area to be output, then use the WMFOUT command.  In other
words, make the view fit the full AutoCAD screen.  I am getting the .003
line width in Word 6.0 using this method.  All entities print very nice,
just as if they were plotted in AutoCAD.
Cheers, 
Lu
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Subject: Printing to file in postscript format
From: tad@oz.net (Tad Deshler)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:15:03 GMT
I am using v. 12c1 for Windows and am trying to print a drawing to a
file in postscript format (.ps) so it can be printed at a local
photocopy shop.  Apparently they do this sort of thing all the time
from other apps.  They gave me a driver to add to AutoCad for a
UFO/ColorFlare controller.  I've successfully installed the driver (I
think).  When I print, I can either create a .prn file or a .plt file,
neither of which seem to end up as postscript files according to the
guy at the copyshop.  We have been able to print on his system using a
encapsulated postscript (.eps) format, but this does not come out as
good as it could in raw postscript format.  On his end, he is using
the UFO/ColorFlare controller (from a Mac) to print to a Canon 350
copier.  I know there are add-ons for AutoCad to allow one to do this
sort of thing, but they are $$$$.  Since we can't do any in-house
printing/plotting of these drawings (11x17 color) anyway, I want to
make this option work with the shop.   Has anybody else had any
success doing this?
Tad Deshler
Tetra Tech, Inc.
tad@oz.net
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Subject: Re: Network Plotting in R12 DOS
From: "Kurt Elfers"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:33:29 GMT
We do just what you are talking about.
Plot to file with default plot file name set to LPT1
Do not use LPT1:
Alan W. Stiver  wrote in article
<32CBF25F.7DF1@neoucom.edu>...
> Several years ago I was told how to plot to a network printer (HP4) by 
> plotting to a file named, it think, LPT1.  Since I've been using Windows 
> for a couple of years, I forgot exactly how to do this, and now I need to
> configure an R12 DOS user.  Does anyone remember how this is done?
> 
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Subject: Re: Converting English to Metric
From: Michael Dougherty
Date: 15 Jan 1997 15:53:02 -0700
Town of Swan River wrote:
> 
> We are a small town which has been using AutoCAD for about 3 years.
> 
> When we started using AutoCAD we worked in English units and English
> dimensions.
> 
> We now would like to change to metric.  We were wondering if there is a
> simple way to convert from English to Metric.  We know we can scale the
> drawings down to Metric size but is there a way to change the dimensions at
> the same time.
> 
> We use AutoCAD R13 and AutoCAD LT '95.
> 
> Grant Schaffer
> Engineering Department
> townsr@swanvalley.freenet.mb.ca
If you scale the drawings the dimensions should change automatically.
sheila davis
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD r13 Render under W95
From: "Tore Hanson"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 03:13:32 GMT
Josemi  wrote in article
<01bc0191$857d5340$LocalHost@josemi-antelo>...
> 
> I've got a problem with AutoCAD RENDER. When I click the Render option it
> can't run. I know it may run under Windows 3.1. Why?. 
> I want to use the AutoCAD Render under Windows 95. What must I do?
> Thanks.
> 
>                Josemi 
One of the things that I found that affects redering is your choice of
video drivers!
If you configured AutoCAD to use the WHIP driver, change it to the standard
Windows driver.
If you already have it configured this way, then I don't have any other
suggestions!
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Subject: Re: Re:Student wanting to purchase?
From: "Bill Golightly"
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:02:53 -0800
I recently did this. Bought R13c4 from school book store for around $850.
When I finished classes, I upgraded to commercial (R13c4a) for $1,100. This
is a pretty good savings compared to the $2,500 to $2,700 I usually hear.
Bill
G Rajesh  wrote in article
<5bg7e0$8pm@lex.zippo.com>...
: Michael Phelps  wrote:
: 
: >I am thinking about buying autocad 13 student version. I have two
: >choices;  to buy upgadeable version for $800 or purchase nonupgradeable
: >for $350. Which do you think I should do? Any advice would be
: >appreciated.
: >
: 
: I would suggest you to go for upgradable version . :)
: 
: G.Rajesh
: //Autodesk Product Support on the Internet//
: 
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Subject: Re: Eradicate renegade layer names?
From: cadmike@pivot.net (Mike Cundiff)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:10:16 GMT
I beleive the following will work.
First, rebuild the blocks, with the appropriate layers of course.
Save the new blocks with the same name as there original.  Then open
the drawings in question, and reinsert the block.  You will only have
to do it once, it should automatically update the other versions of
the original block to the new version.
On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:43:37 GMT, "Brandon Nichols"
 wrote:
>We have some layer names embedded in a block entites that "don't conform to
>standards".  We'd like to change entites on the offending layer to a
>standard, existing layer name but of course its bound up in the block
>definition.  Short of doing a DXFOUT and changing the name with a text
>search/replace (why can't AutoCAD make such a  simple provision as a global
>database string replace???), does anyone know of a way to get rid of these
>buggers?
>
>I'm imagining a LISP routine that steps through the block table and
>reconstructs offending blocks when the offensive string is found, using the
>desired string instead.   Having written a "block replicator" once to do
>another onerous chore (and remembering how long it took to debug), I'm
>hoping someone has a better solution...
>
>Brando
Mike Cundiff
Utilities, Inc.
Standish, ME
www.pivot.net/~cadmike
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Subject: Entity Checking with a 3rd party program
From: rayc3149
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:46:48 -0800
Does anyone know of a product that will do any or all the following
randomly 
        check drawings for layer names
        check text height, by layer
        check layer color
        check block names
 from a predetermined list
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Subject: Re: Acadlt for 95 reading rel. 13 files
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 03:46:54 GMT
Chris Nelson  wrote in article
<01bc0344$be5f3020$a03193cf@Chris-Nelson>...
> I have the AL3.0 upgrade and it is showing me this problem. One of the
> reasons I bought the upgrade was to read Rel. 13 drawings. No luck yet.
> 
Try "opening" the file with the recover option (File, Management..)
Might work or might not.
Enjoy,
Stef
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Subject: Re: rendering software
From: Andrew Nowicki
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:49:27 -0600
I used Accurender also. It makes good trees
and shrubs. On the negative side, it does
not know how to handle ACIS objects
(solid objects of AutoCAD 13). I had to
export AutoCAD objects as 3DS (3D Studio)
and import them back into AutoCAD before
rendering. Sometimes the imported 3DS
objects had ugly seams. Often I could
not use backgrounds when running
Windows NT 4.0 -- DOS version worked fine
though.
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Subject: Re: Raster Images within Autocad
From: "ICM"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:01:17 GMT
Try http://www.gtx.com/gtx
Fyfe Surveyors Pty Ltd  wrote in article
<32D49FB0.3BAA@camtech.net.au>...
> Can any one direct me to a Third Party sotware producer that could help
> us in importing Raster Images into Autocad 13 eg TIF,GIF etc.
> Or if you have any clues on importing these files into Autocad
> successfully as we don't.
> We are looking at overlaying contour info over scanned aerial
> photography within Autocad.
> 
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Subject: Re: Stealth 3D 2000
From: "Jason Smith"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 04:24:38 GMT
When I purchased a new machine for home use, I spent and extra $300 on the
Stealth VRAM (upgrade from the 3D 2000!).  A month later my "day job"
upgraded our computer systems.  At home and at the office the machines are
Micron Millennia P200's.   The only difference is the video card.  The
office machines had the 3D boards.  The 3D board are not only less
"flakey", they out perform the non-3D board by 5 seconds on the BENCH13.SCR
(I have Soft Engine 3.7 both at work and at home!)  Not an incredible
amount but the boards are close to $300 cheaper!!!!!  The most reliable,
least "flakey" board I have seen (and best value for the money, about $150)
is the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000!  Good luck!
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Subject: Re: Better Explation of AutoLisp "ssget" problem
From: Mike Bos
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:25:59 -0800
Mike Bos wrote:
> 
> I'm writing a program that checks a drawing for a certain entity, adds
> that entity to a selection set (using SSGET) then places does some stuff
> using that entity.  The program continues to do this a number of times.
> 
> The problem I am having, is that after 128 calls to the ssget function,
> it returns "nil" instead of a selection set.  I am setting the selection
> set variables to "nil" after I use them so I don't think I am using up
> temporary memory space.  I thought I might solve this problem by only
> using 1 global selection set variable and then adding or deleting
> entities from it but I ran into the same problem.  After 128 ssadd
> function calls I get a "bad argument" error.
> 
> Has anybody else run into this kind of problem and if so, are there any
> solutions, or alternate ways to do a large number of different
> selections
> in an AutoLisp program
I guess I was a little brief on my initial explanation of the problem I
was having with SSGET.
My system:
Im running AutoCad R13 C4 on a DOS 6.22 platform.  I have the line
FILE=60 in my config.sys.
Computer: P75 w/ 16Meg Ram
My Problem:
Im using Plines to represent pipes.  Pipe wall thickness readings are
physically taken at various locations along these pipes.  I want to
color code segments of these pipes according to the thickness found.
The way I do this, is to first draw all of the pipes in a template
drawing.  There can be upto 200 pipes in a drawing.  At the start of
each pipe I place a sequential number (sort of a pipe address) to
identify each pipe.  Next I read I data file containing the pipe ID and
thickness readings.  I use an SSGET to search the drawing for the
correct pipe address and then using the position of that address I use a
second SSGET to select the correct pipe (pline).  The pipe can contain a
number of different vertices, so I use it as a template to tell me where
I should place my color coded pline segment representing the pipes
thickness at that location.
Therefore, to find a particular pipe (pline) I use 2 SSGET calls; 1 to
find the address and 1 to find the pline.  After running through 64
pipes, the SSGET function returns a nil.
I read in the Acad manuals that only 128 selection sets can be opened at
once, so I made sure to set my selection set variable to nil after I
was done with it.  So at any one time I only had one selection set open,
but it seems as though Autolisp is not releasing the temporary memory
bound to the selection set variable even though I set it to nil, hence
the program crash.
I thought I might get around this problem by only using 1 global
selection set and adding or deleting entites from it, but after 128
SSADD function calls (64 pipes)  the program still crashes.
Is this a problem with the functionality of AutoLisp, or is it something
Im doing wrong?
Is there a different way someone can think of doing this sort of thing?
Thanks for your help
MB.
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Subject: How do convert an Acad R13 (windows) dwg to Acad R10 (DOS) dwg
From: "Y. Gozman"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 02:17:33 GMT
How do convert an ACAD R13 (for WINDOWS  95 ) drawing                      
                      to  ACAD R10 (for DOS) drawing ?
We have tried the following approach:
DXFOUT of the R13 drawing, creating file R13.dxf.
In DOS , use the DXFIX program to create R10.dxf.
Our command is DXFIX R13 R10
We get an error message "STACK UNDERFLOW", and the program stops.
If we had successfully created R10.dxf, we think we would then use DXFIN
to create the R10 drawing.
What is the cause of the "STACK UNDERFLOW" error, and how can we fix it ?
Key lines from config.sys:
Buffers=40,0
Files=54
DOS=UMB
FCBS=16,0
Stacks=20,256
If we fix the error, is the above aproach correct ?
Thank you in advance,  Y. G. 
Please email me: yafha@erols.com 
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Subject: CAD Software for Students !!!
From: educaer@aol.com (EducAER)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 00:48:12 GMT
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Subject: Re: 21 inch monitor.... which one?
From: Bogdan Radu
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:20:47 -0800
David Andriessen wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't settle for anything less then a Sony Trinitron tube. There are
> some tubes that are based on the trinitron concept but I'd rather stick to
> the real thing. There are also monitors based shadow mask tubes but their
> color consistency across the whole screen doesn't satisfy me at all.
> 
> Check out the Sony GDM-20SEII,GDM-20TC or the GDM-W900. Workstation
> manufacturers like SGI and SUN base their best monitors on these models.
> 
> --
> 
> david
Actually I'm using a Viewsonic wich uses a shadow mask and I,m very
happy with it.Sony is also OK but pricewise... :(.
Bogdan.
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Subject: HELP!!! I need a good CGM filter for AutoCAD r13 c4 for Win 95
From: "ICM"
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:23:59 GMT
I am looking for a CGM filter to convert AutoCAD files to CGM without
losing text attributes (doesn't turn text into lines and arcs)
E-mail me  attn. John Suida
icm@icmconv.com
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Subject: plot error - queue full
From: don
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:32:46 -0800
i have an intermitant? problem while plotting...
when plotting to a summagraphics hi-plot 7100 today,
part way through  the pen slowed way down
then an error message
  tranmit queue full on com4
is the computer sending to much data to plotter ?
does file size have something to do with it ?
pentium-133
win95
48Mb ram
200Mb left on hard drive  90Mb swap file
1Mb ram in plotter (i think)
plotter is set to plot at 12xx/sec (cm?)
the DWG was about 700k and was created from import-dxf
thanks
-- 
don
infodon@ncn.net
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Subject: plotter/scanner for sale
From: conchsoca@aol.com (Conchsoca)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:35:18 GMT
My firm has recently upgraded and so have a shacoh kip3800
scanner/plotter/large document copier for sale. Included is scan to file
software and a work station. If you need a machine that does it all at a
bargin price and is in great shape e-mail me at m.j.@specprint.com.
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Subject: Re: Convert R13w to R12
From: ccrox39754@aol.com (CCrox39754)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:43:59 GMT
Can you also save Autocad Lite for Windows 95 to the Autocad Release 12
format?
Carlos Croxton
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Subject: Re: Redefining AutoCAD Commnads
From: "W. Kiernan"
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:24:55 -0500
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Stuart Robinson wrote:
> 
> I am having trouble redefining the plot command in AuoCAD R12.
> 
> I have written a LISP program to monitor plotting which should be run
> after the pot command.
> 
> The PLOT command is redefined in ACAD.LSP and calls the original plot
> command with the line
> 
> (COMMAND ".PLOT")
> 
> When plot is entered at the AutoCAD prompt the plot dialogue box is
> replaced with a command line equivalent.
> 
> Anyone any ideas how to get the dialogue box back ?
> 
> Stuart robinson
Hello Stuart!
The problem is that if you call the PLOT command from LISP, it always
come up in text line mode.  The trick I use is an ADS program called
LISPPLOT.EXP which stuffs the keystrokes ".PLOT" into the keyboard
buffer, so it's as though you typed them in after the LISP routine
finishes.  LISPPLOT is a free product by MD Computer Consulting, and I
got it from Compuserve's ACAD forum, which doesn't do you much good if
you don't have Compuserve.  It probably is available on the Internet
somewhere, and you might try looking in Yahoo or AltaVista or something
like that, but I am going to send you a .ZIP file with LISPPLOT.EXP and
LISPPLOT.DOC (a text file explaining how to use it) as an eMail
attachment.
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
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Subject: Re: Vellum
From: Rusty Gesner
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:52:19 -0800
Tony Tanzillo wrote:
> 
> Vellum is produced by Ashlar....
> 
> You might want to have a look at Intergraph Imagineer
> Technical, which takes some of the advanced features
> of Vellum even further.
> 
> You can find out more about Imagineer at the following URL:
> 
> http://intergraph.com/iss/draw
That URL didn't work but http://www.intergraph.com/iss/draw did.
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Subject: Re: Converting English to Metric
From: Jay Garnett
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:41:27 -0600
Town of Swan River wrote:
> 
> We are a small town which has been using AutoCAD for about 3 years.
> 
> When we started using AutoCAD we worked in English units and English
> dimensions.
> 
> We now would like to change to metric.  We were wondering if there is a
> simple way to convert from English to Metric.  We know we can scale the
> drawings down to Metric size but is there a way to change the dimensions at
> the same time.
> 
> We use AutoCAD R13 and AutoCAD LT '95.
> 
> Grant Schaffer
> Engineering Department
> townsr@swanvalley.freenet.mb.ca
All you need to to is scale the entire drawing (dimensions and all) up. 
For example, if you want to convert a drawing from inches to mm, type
scale, then all when prompted to select objects, then enter 25.4 for the
scale factor. A dimension that read 1 in imperial units will now read
25.4.  If you want to have bolt imperial and metric units, you need to
enter 25.4 in the alternate units scale factor dialog box, and turn
alternate units on.
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Subject: Re: layer list exporting
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:04:20 -0500
Charles Pierce wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to export a list of the layers in a drawing file, either to
> a text file or to a printer?  Seems like I have seen a lisp routine that
> will do this, but I cannot find it now.  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated!
> 
> CCP
Hi Charles,
If you are using 13 win, just do layer;?;*.  Page thru all the layers
then go to the text screen and copy it to the clipboard.
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: MMX?
From: "Cyber Funk!"
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 03:51:31 GMT
My company is sending me a new PC for CAD work
I'm using 13c4....If this new PC is the new Pentium MMX
Am I going to have problems?
Any early word on Acad & MMX?
Nothing on their Web site....
David
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Subject: Dots lines printed in LT
From: Fabrizio Croce
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:53:23 -0800
hello all,
I have an urgent problem to solve.
I cannot print dots lines with Autocad LT.
any suggestions??
thanks
Fabrizio
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Subject: Re: Editing LT/95 colour palette.
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 03:44:56 GMT
*aball@icis.on.ca wrote in article <32DBE67B.7D88@icis.on.ca>...
> This may be a FAQ, so please don't hesitate to give me a pointer...
> 
> Is there some way to edit the 256 colour table in LT for 95?  We try to
> limit our drawings to 16 colours for clarity, choosing the colours
> provided in the standard VGA colour palette.  Unfortunately, the next 7
> colours after colour 9 are lovely shades of peach.
> 
> I know that third-party solutions like Soft Engine will do this, but is
> there some way to edit the colour table, or the first 9 colours?
Quick way: switch your video driver down to 16 colors.
Enjoy,
Stef
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Subject: Re: Softengine new drivers. Get them.
From: "Jason Smith"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 04:10:23 GMT
Run BENCH13.SCR!!! It speaks for itself!
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Subject: Re: Autocad 13 default directory
From: "Jason Smith"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 04:17:22 GMT
(For Win 95)  right click on your shortcut icon and click on properties. 
Then click on the short cut portion of the dialog box.  Change the "start
in" directory to the one you want.
If you don't have an AutoCAD shortcut on your desktop, simply right click
on the "start" button and open programs, then AutoCAD to get to the
appropriate short cut!
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Subject: Re: AutoLisp "ssget" problem
From: Morten Warankov
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:00:31 +0100
Hi Mike,
I'm very careful to be too sure, but I feel quite confident that the
problem is related to the number of ssget calls. The coincidence of max
128 ssget calls and that the routine stops on 128 ssget calls is just
too unlikely to have any other reason.
Are you sure the selection set is set to either nil with (setq ss1 nil)
or emptied with ssadd (setq ss1 (ssadd)) _WITHIN_ your loop.
If you like you could post the code here so we could look at it.
Mortenw.
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Subject: Re: 21 inch monitor.... which one?
From: "Brian Hogan"
Date: 16 Jan 1997 04:16:55 GMT
novak@nuc.net wrote in article <32ea5132.1217804@news.alt.net>...
> 
> 
> >Thanks for the good evaluation of the Mitsubishi 91TXM. I've tried one
> >ViewSonic P815 and three Hitachi Elite 802's. I completely agree with
> >everything you said about the ViewSonic!  My screen had darker areas,
the
> >geometry was far from perfect, the colors were faded, and the controls
> >sucked!
> >
> >The three Hitachi's I've had have been much better than the P815.
Controls
> >were good, colors were brighter than average, and the clarity was pretty
> >good, even at 1600x1200. I've had problems with "brightness bleeding" --
> >bright objects on a dark screen produce light shadows or hazing.  
> 
> That problem and hearing that the .22mm dot pitch of the Hitachi is
> really only comparable to .27 or .28mm measured in the "classical" way
> is what turned me away from the Hitachis.  I don't have any problems
> with color or brightness bleeding.
> 
> 
> >I've been considering sending my current Hitachi back again (to NECX) to
> >get a completely new monitor, and the Mitsubishi was at the top of the
> >list.
> >
> >A few questions:
> >
> >1. How clear is small text at 1600x1200? (better than the Panasonic,
fuzzy,
> >etc.)
> 
> I don't have a video card that supports 1600x1200 so I don't know.
> All I can say is that the Mitsubishi looks sharper to me than the S21
> (which uses the same tube as the P815 you had, AFAIK) at
> 1280x1024x16bit@75hz.  Someone else posted he liked his 91TXM also and
> that his also has sharp text (even at 1600x1200 after switching to a
> BNC cable).  I think I'm going to buy a BNC cable to see if I can
> notice any difference like he did.
> 
> 
> >2. How is the convergence?  (that's what the H Stat is for, to adjust
the
> >convergence of the electron guns)
> 
> Hey cool.  I can see the difference it makes when I change that
> adjustment in Nokia's convergence pattern in their test utility.  It
> was about dead nuts set at 50% anyway from what I could tell.  I
> really don't know how to rate it.  It appears to be very good.  It is
> never off by more than half the width of a line in Nokia's utility if
> even that much.  It is difficult to describe, but I think it might
> rate as excellent.  It is hard to tell since I haven't tested hardly
> any other monitor with that utility.  It isn't perfect, but it could
> be considered close to perfect I guess.  Very acceptable in the least.
> 
> For those interested, Nokia's monitor test utility can be gotten from:
> 
> http://www.nokia.com/products/monitors/monitor_test.html
> 
> 
> I'm very happy with the Mitsubishi, but I've never seen the Hitachi.
> As you already know, getting a good monitor is a crap shoot.  The
> geometry of my 91TXM is very good overall, but it isn't perfect.  The
> sharpness, richness of color, and brightness of the monitor is
> Excellent.  I'm happy, and I'd like to think the 91TXM would be
> better, but that's really only because I own one =).
> 
> P.S. How about a review of the Hitachi concerning it's the controls,
> picture quality, and your impressions about it.  I'd especially like
> to know how the claimed .22mm tube rates as far as sharpness goes; did
> you notice any difference in sharpness between the Hitachi and the
> Viewsonic for instance?
> 
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Here's my $0.02 impression of the Hitachi Elite CM802U monitor:
1. Resolution - This monitor can truly do 1600x1200 well. I too had heard
about the 0.22 mm horizontal pitch Hitachi was claiming and was skeptical.
Using Pythagorean's theorem, the traditional dot pitch calculates to 0.272
mm. My previous ViewSonic P815 with the 0.25 mm pitch produced very crisp
text in the center of the screen at 1280x1024 using Nokia's monitor test
program and the readability feature (I mostly concentrate on the 1 pixel
wide blank space between the U and the L in the word fullscreen -- if you
can't see the space, the monitor has significant misfocus). However, the
P815 had poor focus on the entire left 1/4 of the screen and some on the
right side. The corners were not particularly sharp either. Surprisingly,
the coarser dot pitch of the Hitachi has better focus across most of the
screen 
than the P815. At 1600x1200, I can still distinguish the blank between
letters with Nokia's test everywhere except in the far corners. On a scale
of 1 to 10, I'd give the Hitachi an 8.5 for resolution; the ViewSonic would
get a 7.
2. Convergence - The convergence of the Hitachi is pretty good across
almost every part of the screen. I have, at most, about 1/2 of a pixel of
horizontal misconvergence, but this happens only in a few locations and
mostly at the extremes of the screen. Unless you often work with thin
horizontal and vertical magenta lines, you'd never notice the
misconvergence. The P815 had much worse miconvergence on many parts of the
screen. So bad was it than I would have estimated that it exceeded 0.5 mm,
or a good 1 pixel gap between the blue and the red component lines of a
magenta line. That's pretty bad and noticeable when working with thin white
text on a dark background. For convergence, I'd rate the Hitachi an 8 and
the ViewSonic a 5.
3. Geometry - When I got the ViewSonic, I immediately noticed that the CRT
had a black coating on the inside such that an image at maximum size would
not be perfectly rectangular; the corners would be rounded inward. In
addition, the CRT appear tilted in relation to the bezel, compounding this
problem. So, the only way I could get a truly rectangular image was to use
a string, measure the two diagonals, and adjust the sizes, rotation,
trapazoid, etc, until the corners were square. Real pain in the ass. In
addition, the top and bottom edges bowed inward -- no controls to fix this
problem. And I could never completely get rid of the pincushioning on both
sides. The Hitachi does not suffer from any of these problems. It takes
very little time at all to get practically a perfectly rectagular image all
the way to the bezel. The Hitachi gets a 9, the ViewSonic a 5.  BTW, both
monitors give 20.0" diagonal images.
4. Color Purity - I've had three Hitachis and 1 ViewSonic. My third Hitachi
has pretty good color purity, with only a very slight hint of yellowing
towards the left side of the screen and the extreme upper right corner. Not
very noticeable at all. The first and second Hitachis did have a
noticeable, slightly lighter strip going down the right side of the screen.
Only really perceptible with a gray background. The second Hitachi also had
a noticeable yellow tint on the left half of the screen, particularly
noticeable with the text of the bootup cycle. The 1 ViewSonic I tried had
poor color purity, showing sweeping large, blotchy areas around all parts
of the screen. These were instantly noticeable with any color background,
but especially with gray and blue screens. A white screen, though not
really too bad, did have random areas with color biasing. Give the worst
Hitachi a 7 and the ViewSonic a 5.
5. Color Saturation - I use a Trinitron based HP 4033A  20" screen at work,
which does provide very bright, rich colors. All of my Hitachis have come
pretty damn close to the vividness and brilliance of the color produced by
my HP monitor, perhaps even better. The first thing I noticed different
between the ViewSonic P815 and the Hitachis was the color saturation. The
P815 ALWAYS had washed out colors. Adjusting the RGB relations helped, but
never were any of the colors as vivid as the Hitachi. On Hitachis webpage
(http://www.nsa-hitachi.com), they explain that this is due to better
phosphors and larger actual phosphor dots than a standard shadow mask CRT.
I believe them. Give the Hitachi an 8.5 and the ViewSonic a 6.
6. Screen Regulation - The biggest and most annoying problem I've had with
the Hitachi has come from bright objects casting a light shadow on dark or
black backgrounds. For example, I usually set my Win 95 background to
black. I have Office Pro 95 and always have the toolbar as a vertical
toolbar on the right side of the screen. It is normal autohidden, but when
I move my mouse over it, it displays. To the left of the toolbar, there is
a 1/2" wide strip where the screen is not black but darker gray. If the
toolbar has a brightness of 8 (out of 10), the shadowing would have a
brightness of about 1.5. This "brightness bleeding", as I call it, is not a
sharp ghost image but more of a cloudy image. The brightness of it varies
with the brightness of the toolbar. As expected, it is most noticeable at
night when the room lighting is lower than during the day. The effect
occurs even with the brightness control set to zero and the contrast set to
only 50%. Other parts of the screen produce the same effect, but it is
least perceptible in the center. The ViewSonice, to its credit, did not
display this problem.
7. Controls - I won't bash the controls of the ViewSonic too much other
than to say I was annoyed by having to scroll through the digital controls
using a 1 and a 2 button. The Hitachi has a total of 12 buttons, which give
direct access to each feature. For example, if I want to adjust the height,
I press one button to go directly to the horizontal size and positioning
controls and use a plus and minus button to actually make the adjustments.
Some controls require pressing two buttons simultaneously to get to, but
the buttons are clearly marked. The following digital controls are
provided:
    a. Horizontal Size
    b. Horizontal Positioning
    c. Vertical Size
    d. Vertical Positioning
    e. Pincushioning
    f. Right Side Pincushioning - allows you to get the left and right side
perfectly parallel!
    g. Trapazoid
    h. Right Trapazoid - also allows getting left/right sides parallel.
    i. Rotation
    j. Color Temperature Select - 5000 K, 6500 K, 9300 K built in
    k. Separate Red, Green, Blue Controls - values can be set precisely
between 0 and 255 for each.
    l. Horizontal Moire Adjust
    m. Horizontal Moire On
    n. Vertical Moire Adjust
    o. Vertical Moire On
    p. Brightness - can be adjusted on the fly using brightness + and -
buttons
    q. Contrast - can be adjusted on the fly using contrast + and - buttons
    r. Manual Degauss
    s. Store Button - most changes made to the image are not automatically
stored; You have to manually store them
                             after programming settings for each
resolution.
    NOTE: When you change screen resolutions, the monitor will briefly
display the horizontal and vertical frequencies.
               But you can't manually display these.
Controls not included but would be cool:
    a. Horizontal Convergence
    b. Vertical Convergence
    c. Focus
    d. Vertical Pincushioning
    e. D-Sub/BNC Switch - see below
    f. Signal Level - I've never needed it, but being able to adjust the
input level for the signal might be nice for some.
All in all, the controls are well designed to make easy adjustments and to
correct most image details. Only annoying thing is having to press the
store button to lock changes made.  Give the Hitachi an 8 for controls, the
ViewSonic a 7.
8. Inputs - I was a little hesitant to get the Hitachi 802 because it DOES
NOT have BNC inputs. However, the supplied D-Sub cable is excellent. I
suspect that the image may clear up even more at 1600x1200 if a BNC cable
were used. The ViewSonic does have both D-Sub and BNC connectors. I only
used the BNC connectors with the ViewSonic. Give the Hitachi a7 and the
ViewSonic an 8.
9. Pixel Addressibilities - I won't go too much into what resolutions the
monitors were theoretically capable of. I can tell you that the Hitachi 802
can do 75 Hz at 1600x1280, which is overkill for most people. The Hitachi
803 can do 86 Hz at this frequency and even 76 Hz at 1800x1440! The P815 is
a close match to the 803 and beats the 802. But, in my opinion, more than
80 Hz at 1600x1200 is just wasted money. No current monitor, not even the
Hitachi 803, is likely to give a truly sharp image at 1800x1440.
10. Miscellaneous - The Hitachi is a good looking monitor with a
surprisingly small bezel. The ViewSonic's was much bulkier. It weighs about
10+ pounds more than the P815. The screen is decently flat and I believe
flatter than the P815's CRT. I've had no problems using the Hitachi with
two different graphics cards - a #9 2 meg 3D virge card and a Matrox 4 meg
Millenium. I only tested the P815 with the #9 card, but about every other
time I booted up the computer, I got beeps indicator a video RAM failure.
Doesn't happen with the Hitachi and didn't happen with my previous Iiyama
MF8617. I could have somehow been related to using the BNC connectors.
Overall Impression of the Hitachi Elite 802 - This is a very good monitor,
providing bright, vivid, sharp images up to 1600x1200. Though it has a
0.272 mm dot pitch, I think it is as sharp or sharper than the ViewSonic
P815. However, there were some distinguishible differences between each of
the three 802s I've had. And all had the problem with "brightness
bleeding". I would certainly recommend the 802 over the ViewSonic P815 most
any day.
I may still temporarily buy a Mitsubushi 91TXM, compare it side by side
with the Hitachi, and send the lesser monitor back. For $1600+ dollars of
MY money, I demand perfection from my monitors!
I hope this helps out others looking for a good 21" monitor.
Brian
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Subject: Re: AutoLisp "ssget" problem
From: Mike Bos
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:24:28 -0800
Mike Bos wrote:
> 
> I'm writing a program that checks a drawing for a certain entity, adds
> that entity to a selection set (using SSGET) then places does some stuff
> using that entity.  The program continues to do this a number of times.
> 
> The problem I am having, is that after 128 calls to the ssget function,
> it returns "nil" instead of a selection set.  I am setting the selection
> set variables to "nil" after I use them so I don't think I am using up
> temporary memory space.  I thought I might solve this problem by only
> using 1 global selection set variable and then adding or deleting
> entities from it but I ran into the same problem.  After 128 ssadd
> function calls I get a "bad argument" error.
> 
> Has anybody else run into this kind of problem and if so, are there any
> solutions, or alternate ways to do a large number of different
> selections
> in an AutoLisp program
I guess I was a little brief on my initial explanation of the problem I
was having with SSGET.
My system:
Im running AutoCad R13 C4 on a DOS 6.22 platform.  I have the line
FILE=60 in my config.sys.
Computer: P75 w/ 16Meg Ram
My Problem:
Im using Plines to represent pipes.  Pipe wall thickness readings are
physically taken at various locations along these pipes.  I want to
color code segments of these pipes according to the thickness found.
The way I do this, is to first draw all of the pipes in a template
drawing.  There can be upto 200 pipes in a drawing.  At the start of
each pipe I place a sequential number (sort of a pipe address) to
identify each pipe.  Next I read I data file containing the pipe ID and
thickness readings.  I use an SSGET to search the drawing for the
correct pipe address and then using the position of that address I use a
second SSGET to select the correct pipe (pline).  The pipe can contain a
number of different vertices, so I use it as a template to tell me where
I should place my color coded pline segment representing the pipes
thickness at that location.
Therefore, to find a particular pipe (pline) I use 2 SSGET calls; 1 to
find the address and 1 to find the pline.  After running through 64
pipes, the SSGET function returns a nil.
I read in the Acad manuals that only 128 selection sets can be opened at
once, so I made sure to set my selection set variable to nil after I
was done with it.  So at any one time I only had one selection set open,
but it seems as though Autolisp is not releasing the temporary memory
bound to the selection set variable even though I set it to nil, hence
the program crash.
I thought I might get around this problem by only using 1 global
selection set and adding or deleting entites from it, but after 128
SSADD function calls (64 pipes)  the program still crashes.
Is this a problem with the functionality of AutoLisp, or is it something
Im doing wrong?
Is there a different way someone can think of doing this sort of thing?
Thanks for your help
MB.
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Subject: question about importing text....
From: (hairball)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:02:29 GMT
I'm presently trying to finish a floor layout using AutoCad R.12 but
i've run into problems with the menu,
I need to have a column setup (which is no problem) but
there must be an easier way to input the text  other than doing it
line by line seperately  lining each one up.
is there a way to import from a half decent word processing prog. that
supports and creates columns that are compatible with  Acad?
typing 97 object descriptions into AutoCad is not something I want to
go through again.
and yes i'm a beginner...how'd you guess 
any help is appreciated.
                                       R.K.
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Subject: Re: best electrical engineering cad
From: eklauss@primenet.com
Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:44:02 -0700
lyonn@okstate.edu wrote:
> 
> Check out the trail version of p-spice from simtech.  You can draw all
> circuits and print them easily.  Not to mention simulate and solve
> them.  I think the restriction on the trial version is the number of
> transisters simulated in a circuit, but that shouldn't restrict
> drawing them.
> 
> On 16 Dec 1996 16:06:58 GMT, rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state (ralphus)
> wrote:
> 
> >I have a father that wants an electrical engineering cad program (for win
> >3.1 or dos) for xmas.  I know a lot about music and sound software but I
> >don't have the faintest idea of what is out there in the realm of cad.  I
> >have only $140 to spend and need something that will let him draw diagrams
> >of circuit boards and such.  It doesn't have to be fancy, it just has to
> >have symbols for capacitors and resistors etc.  I have looked around at
> >computer software stores and just received blank looks from the workers
> >(go figure).  If anyone can e-mail me a recomendation for an appropriate
> >cad it will be much appreciated.  If you also have information on how to
> >contact the company to order the software that will be doubly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanx in advance.
> >
> >rbarnes@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
If you're looking for Pspice, you can download it off their webpage at
www.microsim.com or they'll send it to you for free on CD-ROM if you
email them at sales@microsim.com
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