Subject: Re: Ignitioning Yourself
From: firstkey@baradv.com (Yeggster)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 06:19:01 GMT
In article <56al6f$dhq@news1-alterdial.uu.net>,
sdotson@mpinc.com (Sean Dotson) wrote:
>>Thhe oficial point where voltage is considered dangerous is 78 volts....
>>..voltage above 78 volts is cnsiderd high voltage and below its not
>>some product are often labled with Max. Occ. voltage 78 volts.
>
>>The Direct current is actually much worse to get shocked by in high voltage
>>then Alternating current.
>
>>Yeggster
>
>Well, lets not forget that it is the amperage that kills you, no the
>voltage. I can place my hand on a Vand der Graff generator that is
>producing in excess of 10,000 V and not be harmed. However, it is
>only producing a fraction of a mA. It only takes a few amps to stop
>your heart.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------
>Sean Dotson --Mercury Productions Inc.
>sdotson@mpinc.com --Digital Design and
>http://www.mpinc.com --Distribution
>------------------------------------------------
>
actually both are necessary for the amps to get thru your skin volts are
needed.......like your example I can hold a welding rod that has four
hundred amps with bare hands......but less than 78 volts.....no shock
Yeggster
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: "S. Yoder"
Date: 13 Nov 1996 05:41:31 GMT
Raymond G. Zinn wrote in article
<3288EE91.7404@interaccess.com>...
> Gary Lynn Kerr wrote:
> >
> > To whom ever wrote that the term draftsMEN was not correct. GET A
LIFE!
> > When the word men/man is used in a word it is generic and means
mankind.
> > And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time on her
> > hands. Also that same feMALE boss probably would not liked being
> > referred to as feMALE/woMEN. As I said before GET A LIFE!
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Nov
> > 1996, Jim Weir wrote:
> >
> > > Peter shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
> > >
> > > ->ATTENTION ALL ENGINEERS AND DRAFTSMEN:
> > >
> > > I'd suggest before you get out into the real world with a female boss
that
> > > you find another word for "draftsMEN".
> > > >
> !!!!!! AMEN !!!!!!!
> People who try to change a language to suit their views should study the
> lexicon of it first. Words do not mean what we want, they mean what are.
I personally never gave a flip. Yet I don't like "draftswoman", but I do
take it as a sign of politeness when a guy goes out of his way to
say "drafter". "Draftsperson" doesn't cut it either. Makes me think of
an old Far Side cartoon ;)
As long as you respect my work, I'll respect yours.
Enjoy,
Stef
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Subject: Re: WARNING to all NON-LICENSED ENGINEERS
From: dano@cyberramp.net
Date: 13 Nov 1996 06:15:28 GMT
In <3288BB73.6B11@cfer.ualberta.ca>, Paul Skoczylas writes:
>dano@cyberramp.net wrote:
> writes:
>> >It seems to me that it's like saying when a building
>> >collapses, the building killed people, rather than the people who
>> >designed/constructed the building killed people.
>>
>> Well, buildings don't design themselves, either.
>
>That's my point.
And I was agreeing with you. While the ultimate responsibility is with the
designer, be he a civil or a software engineer, the *tool* which actually
causes the death, etc. maybe not only be poor structures but faulty code
as well.
A small point really. When people say "Software can kill people", they
just mean that the software is the means by which the SE kills.
>We blame the engineer or builder for the building, so
>why would we blame the software instead of the programmer?
WE wouldn't. But it's common to say the tool of the action did something,
rather than the person. People USUALLY know what is intended. For
example, consider the phrase "Guns kill people". When of course guns
are the tools, and it is people who kill people.
>-Paul
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Subject: Re: Egg drop mechanism
From: pfortman@ee (Peter A. Fortman)
Date: 12 Nov 1996 14:12:14 GMT
Robert S. Lippert (rlippert@pto.ford.com) wrote:
: I cannot imagine not doing this myself.
: Why would anyone ask for ideas???
: Such projects are, after all, what engineering is all about.
: But, here is a clue that is always a good idea in engineering:
: "Where ever possible.....model nature!"
: (I'm not sure of quote source)
What, leave the egg in the chicken? :)
--
Peter Fortman : http://prozac.cwru.edu/pete/
pfortman@ee.princeton.edu : PH# 609-924-7823
Princeton U. EE dept. (ISS) Masters student
"Let us do the undoable, let us think the unthinkable.
Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself
and see if we may not eff it after all."
-- Douglas Adams
Subject: Re: >>>> NEW CIVIL ENGINEERING SITE !!!!! <<<<
From: Vincenzo Pujia
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:26:21 +0100
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