Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ? Yeah, Really!
From: Frank
Date: 28 Dec 1996 23:32:45 GMT
cgb wrote:
>The term "Engineer" sounds like it was over-used like, "Accounting
>Technician", "Transmission Technician", "Office Management Technician",
>"Farm Technician", "Backhoe Technician", "Hamburger Technician" or
>"Packaging Technician".
>
>Maybe if more Technicians had free time to fix this problem like the
>ever so fickle engineers did in North America, the proper use of the
>word Technician would then get the recognition that it deserves.
+++++
I agree with you on this.
>Signed,
>
>A Hard Working Technologist, Seeking Equality In the workplace
>
>(Which by the way, is regarded as an equal in many eurpean countries to
>an 'engineer')
cgb wrote:
>The term "Engineer" sounds like it was over-used like, "Accounting
>Technician", "Transmission Technician", "Office Management Technician",
>"Farm Technician", "Backhoe Technician", "Hamburger Technician" or
>"Packaging Technician".
>
>Maybe if more Technicians had free time to fix this problem like the
>ever so fickle engineers did in North America, the proper use of the
>word Technician would then get the recognition that it deserves.
>
>Signed,
>
>A Hard Working Technologist, Seeking Equality In the workplace
>
>(Which by the way, is regarded as an equal in many eurpean countries to
>an 'engineer')
+++++=
What are the names of the countries you refer to ???
Engineers are not equal to technicians in any European countries.
I think you are referring to " QUACK ENGINEERS "
Signed : European Engineer
Subject: Re: What's in a Job Title ? Yeah, Really!
From: Frank
Date: 28 Dec 1996 23:35:47 GMT
alvesp@cadvision.com (just me) wrote:
>moorehed@interlog.com (Chris Moorehead) wrote:
>
>>cgb wrote:
>
>>>The term "Engineer" sounds like it was over-used like, "Accounting
>>>Technician", "Transmission Technician", "Office Management Technician",
>>>"Farm Technician", "Backhoe Technician", "Hamburger Technician" or
>>>"Packaging Technician".
>>>
>>>Maybe if more Technicians had free time to fix this problem like the
>>>ever so fickle engineers did in North America, the proper use of the
>>>word Technician would then get the recognition that it deserves.
>>>
>>>Signed,
>>>
>>>A Hard Working Technologist, Seeking Equality In the workplace
>>>
>>>(Which by the way, is regarded as an equal in many eurpean countries to
>>>an 'engineer')
>
>>Not exactly - but in Europe, in order to obtain an engineering degree
>>it is often necessary to take "technician" courses as well, and spend
>>at least a year working in industry in a function similar to a
>>"technician" prior to graduation. Therefore, not all technicians are
>>engineers, but all engineers are technicians.
>
>>Of course, in Europe, one also has to take a specialized degree
>>program to become a judge - a law degree is not sufficient...
>
>>chris
>
>>--
>>CHRISTOPHER J. MOOREHEAD, P. Eng.
>>Environmental & Manufacturing Consultant
>>Toronto, Canada
>>moorehed@interlog.com
>
>Last year my son finished his grade 12, and we were discussing his
>future and what he wanted to do with his life. He had done well in
>math and physics and was looking at either going to a trade school,
>or into engineering.
>
>I told him, if you want to go to a trade school, be the best
>technician you can be, enjoy your profession. But please; do not
>spend the rest of your life wishing you were an engineer!
>
>Cheers
>
======
Good Advice .
I would prefer be a technician and I would be proud of it.
Subject: Calculation of force due to impact?
From: groddy@iol.ie (Gary Roddy)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:39:27 +0000
I'm trying to calculate the force produced when a vehicle, moving at
constant velocity, strikes a hollow metal tube that is, itself, welded
between two posts.
I'm assuming that when I calculate this force then I can look up my tables
for an intermediate load acting on a beam with fixed supports. I would be
interested
to know what solution would be used for this problem in the world of
professional engineering. I've been very disappointed with the information
available in books; nothing quite relevant to this situation. I
understand, so far, that the force depends on the velocity of the vehicle,
the mass of the vehicle, the mass of the beam, and the "spring constant"
of the beam at the point of impact.
Gary
Subject: Re: *Nobody* should ever die in the pursuit of science (was: Re: Needless Loss of Eight Lives Working with High Pressure)
From: Hermital
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 18:49:30 -0800
On Sun 12/29/96 00:11 GMT Eric Lucas wrote:
> It is true, and always has been, that there is no scientific discovery
> that's worth dying for.
>
Hello, Eric:
There are, of course, those who would disagree with you on this point.
Many individuals dedicate themselves to scientific discovery and other
long-term pursuits. And many die of both natural and unnatural causes
before attaining their goal.
If you haven't found anything worth dying for yet, look around: You may
get lucky. :-)
--
Alan
When you have a quiet moment, seek egolessness and remember that the
human body and nervous system are merely the organic user interfaces
that interpret holonomic materiality for a unique transcendental entity
that emerges reciprocally within the pre-existing vital energy of
uncreated absolute pure being.
