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Doug McKean  wrote:

> The PE exam last I calculated (again that was a long time 
> ago) allowed for about 80 seconds per question if you wanted 
> to hit all of them. And basically, if you had to look it up, 
> you were dead. 

> Comments? 
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I think your reference to PE should be EIT or FE.
The PE is an 8 question, 8 hour exam.
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M. H. Lyle, PE
Don't_Spam_Me@I_Hate_Spam.com
"Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."  Dennis Miller

I work in Europe.I have come across an american drawing from which we need
to obtain dimensions and tolerances for an electrical part (a
light-to-frequency converter). This data is given like so:
24(10)
------
15(7)
I know the figures outside the brackets are dimensions in mm. and those
inside are in inches. We are puzzled because in most cases the top figure
is almost twice the bottom figure. Does that mean a tolerance of 80%?
Can anyone explain what this means?
-- 
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Spalding's wrote:
> 
> Fintan wrote:
> >
> > If interested, go to the Website of the Institution of Engineers of
> > Ireland at ;
> >
> >          http : //www.failte.com/iei
>         That is a bad address, I can't access.
>         Was Kelly having a bit too much Irish Whiskey when he made this
> bloomin' wunderful discovery?
	After doing a quick search with a search engine, I found out
that what he meant to type was:
      http://www.failte.com/iei/
-- 
					Kevin

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Enrique Juaristi wrote:
> 24(10)
> ------
> 15(7)
> 
> I know the figures outside the brackets are dimensions in mm. and those
> inside are in inches.
If the numbers in the brackets are inches, then the numbers might be
centimetres, but not millimetres as you indicate.
24 cm = 9.45 inches
15 cm = 5.91 inches (this doesn't seem like a good approximation of 7!)
You might want to have a second look at those conversions--are they
really supposed to be centimetres(inches)?  If so, someone screwed
up--which is correct, the 15 cm or the 7 in?  
-Paul

Joe Lemus wrote:
> 
> I agree with J.B.
> You will save an incredible amount of time, money, and agravation if you
> buy an off-the-shelf jeweler's lathe.
> I suggest that you look at the ones offered by Prazi, Enco, and Unimat.
> 
> Luck, JL
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[snip]
: The PE exam last I calculated (again that was a long time 
: ago) allowed for about 80 seconds per question if you wanted 
: to hit all of them. And basically, if you had to look it up, 
: you were dead. 
Exactly right.  You can't look up the answers on the EIT exam
if you expect to pass.
: The strategy I was taught was to brake the questions 
: into three groups: first - go thru the entire test 
: hitting all the questions you could answer almost 
: instantly, second - go back thru hitting the questions you 
: thought you could answer in about a minute, and third - 
: finally start working on the longer problems. 
Good strategy.  It works.  It also keeps your morale up since
you see what you've been able to answer instead of getting
overwhelmed with what you can't.
: That gave you approx 66% of the test out of the way with 
: (depending upon how fast you had been) well more than 33% 
: of the remaining time for the remaining questions. 
: Of course, if by that time you had finished, 
: you were off having a beer or three. 
Well, maybe in CT but in California the nasty examiners
won't let the examinees out of the room until time is
called and all the exams are collected!  :-)
Brian P. Gross, P.E.

>Fintan wrote:
>> 
>> If interested, go to the Website of the Institution of Engineers of
>> Ireland at ;
>> 
>>          http : //www.failte.com/iei
>	That is a bad address, I can't access.
>	Was Kelly having a bit too much Irish Whiskey when he made this
>bloomin' wunderful discovery?
>
The problem with the above address is that there are spaces on either side
of the colon.  If you correct the address to http://www.failte.com/iei it
will work just fine.
David Duerr, P.E.
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  >--
  >Barry Berenberg
  >Los Alamos National Laboratory
  >ESA-DE
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In article , 
chrisw@skypoint.com says...
>
>In article ,
>groddy@iol.ie (Gary Roddy) wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to calculate the force produced when a vehicle, moving at
>>constant velocity, strikes a hollow metal tube that is, itself, welded
>>between two posts.
>I'm not surprised you're having trouble looking it up. It's a tough
>problem under real world circumstances.
Assuming the vehicle is not a tank, absolutely. Suggest searching under 
'accident reconstruction'. Most of the computer work in reconstruction 
has been visualization, but there is structural simulation as well. 
Regards,
Pete Hughes

Spalding's  wrote:
>Fintan wrote:
>> 
>> If interested, go to the Website of the Institution of Engineers of
>> Ireland at ;
>> 
>>          http : //www.failte.com/iei
>	That is a bad address, I can't access.
>	Was Kelly having a bit too much Irish Whiskey when he made this
>bloomin' wunderful discovery?
#
+++++++++++
Another intellectual response !!!!
I think it is you who has had too much whiskey  !!!!!
Everybody else can find the address.

>>               I am planning to take my EIT exam and later the PE exam..
>> I left school 15 years ago but did manage to keep in touch with books in 
>> a small way.  How difficult is EIT exam going to be for guys like me ?
     Can't really say, unless by "in a small way" you mean you pretty 
much stopped reading and doing math.  In that case, you'll probably have 
trouble, but see the remarks below.
>I don't want to discourage you, Murli ...
>but you'll find the EIT/PE exams to be similar to elective surgery ...
>The NCEES and NSPE have *** SUCESSFULLY *** managed to lobby and
>harden the testing process.
>They have managed to eliminate all materials brought in by the
>examinee in the EIT exam ... and have created "banned book" lists for
>the PE exams.
    I was on the "passing point" panel when the new EIT book was introduced.  
The new rules had only minor effect on the difficulty or passing rate.  All of 
the panel members, who had to have passed the EIT at some time in the past, 
"passed" under the new rules, and most of us had not had time to study.  My 
gut feeling is that if you could have passed atthe time you left school, you 
can pass today with modest, but serious, preparation.
   On the other hand, the EIT clearly discriminates against some sorts of 
would-be PE's.  The statistics show that if you fail the EIT the first time, 
you will probably not do well on another attempt.  Perhaps it is 
because they are poor test takers, perhaps because they really can't work 
"book problems," perhaps because they are actually dangerous.
     Only about 75% of BS Eng grads pass, but I have taught a lot of ME 
seniors, and would hope that some of them would never be licensed because I 
have seen the quality of their analytic work.
     Having been through and around the registration process, I think it is 
basically fair.  I would agree that the Boards, NCEES, and NSPE have lobbied 
to stengthen the registration requirements, but I have seen nothing that makes 
me believe they have tried to make it harder to become registered, except for 
attempts to bar "non-ABET" degree holders from attempting the exam.  Many (not 
most) science and technology degree holders CAN pass the exams if permitted to 
try, and should be allowed to do so.
 -- Wallace Venable, P.E.

Does anybody knows where i can find some info about the " shot blaasting
cleaning process " ?
					Thank you

In article  kdonahoe@ceco.ceco.com (Kevin E. Donahoe) writes:
>Subject: Re: EIT EXAM
>From: kdonahoe@ceco.ceco.com (Kevin E. Donahoe)
>Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:01:37 GMT
>In article <5agumt$s3r@camel0.mindspring.com>, Don't_Spam_Me@I_Hate_Spam.com (M. Lyle, PE) writes:
>>kdonahoe@ceco.ceco.com (Kevin E. Donahoe) wrote:
>>
>>> Good Luck!  After being out of school for 15 years I took the PE test and then took
>>> the EIT test the next day.  That was last October and I'm still waiting for the
>>> results.  The new system for the EIT has you indicate a preferred engineering
>>> field for the questions in the afternoon.  They come in a separate book.  I selected
>>> electrical engineering.  I was surprised at the lack of power questions in the EIT
>>> especially in light of the number of power questions in the PE exam I took the day
>>> before.
>>
>>I know of no state that will allow you to sit for the PE without
>>sitting for and RECEIVING PASSING SCORE OF the EIT test first - unless
>>you qualify under some archaic rule for grandfathering.  Usually, they
>>will not let you progress on until the NEXT TEST CYCLE (6 months).
>>
>>Second, why did you take the PE first ... then the EIT second ... the
>>logic fails me.
>On October 25, 1996 I TOOK THE PE EXAM at the Dolton Expo Center in Dolton, Il.  And on
>October 26, 1996 I (along with about 20 of the people from the PE exam) TOOK THE EIT
>EXAM.  This was one of the options offered.
   This is, I think, considered as taking "both at the same time."
>I agree, it would make more sense to me to take the EIT on Fri. and the PE on 
>Sat.  However, this option was not offered and as much as I suggested this 
>arrangement, they would not oblige.  Something about doing it this way for 
>decades. 
   But in this case, no one would know if you had passed the EIT anyway.  The 
papers go to Clemson, SC or Princeton, NJ or somewhere else for scoring.  
(Never having mailed the, I'm not sure whether the preparation contractor 
processes the mark-sense forms.)
>In a different post you suggested that the PE was given on a Friday to 
>discourage taking both exams in one session.  I figured they did it this way 
> because there were many more people taking the EIT than the PE and therefore 
>a Sat test date would be more accomodating to the larger group.
     Yes, at least something like this.  In many places itis easier to find 
large rooms on Saturday than on Friday.  In addition, PE candidates are likely 
to be able to get their employers to give the Friday test day, while some 
college professors hestitate to let students out of Friday classes to take the 
EIT.  ("You want to ship my Human Relations class for WHAT?  You ARE a 
chauvenist pig!)

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In article <19961227154800.KAA16836@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
Dabowers  wrote:
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>opportunites in the Pacific Northwest?  Any help would be greatly
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>
>Thanks,
>
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> From: John Roncallo 
> Newsgroups: sci.engr.mech
> Subject: Re: Young's modulus for balsa wood
> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:48:28 -0500
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> To: gccc_jcipria@k12server.mveca.ohio.gov
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> gccc_jcipria@k12server.mveca.ohio.gov wrote:
> > 
> > John Ciprian
> > Applied Science Teacher
> > Greene County Career Center
> > 2960 W. Enon Road
> > Xenia, OH 45385
> > (513) 426-6636
> > gccc_jcipria@k12server.mveca.ohio.gov
> > 
> > I am looking for Young's modulus for balsa wood to design bridge trusses--would
> > appreciate your help very much.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> 
> 
> I have a table of unknown source which gives the following data.
> 
> Modulus of elasticity (Bending)				= 1460 ksi
> Specific Gravity					= 0.40
> Modulus of rupture (Bending) or Tensile Strength	= 8700 psi
> Max crushing strength parallel to grain			= 4730 psi
> Crushing strength perpendicular	to grain		= 370  psi
> Tensile strength perpendicular to grain			= 350  psi
> Shear strength parallel to grain 			= 990  psi 
> -- 
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> /	John Roncallo		/
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From: Kurt Feichtinger/Baltek Corp.
Please call me at your convenience.  There are six Poisson's ratio's which can 
be quoted.  I'd quote them here but they are at work and I'm at home. Baltek 
is the world's largest balsa wood grower, processor and applications 
fulfiller. Major markets include power boating, industrial and transportation. 
Tel. (201) 767-1400 ext. 200
Be glad to help out.
-Dr. K

As an ex pressure vessel designer, I noticed that many BS5500 design
programs require manual entry of factor C.  May I draw you attention
to 
	http://www.birdsoft.demon.co.uk/englib/pvessel/55003553.htm
where I present a C code fragement based on an iterative solution
using Appendix R to find factor C from fig 3.5.5(3).  The figure may
be plotted using this solution.
P.S. the last edition I had access to was 1991 so this will require
verification.  Please confirm that it's still valid.
Iain W. Bird
wes@birdsoft.demon.co.uk, http://www.birdsoft.demon.co.uk

"Panayiotis S. Shiakolas"  wrote:
>Hello,
>I am planning to offer a senior/graduate level course 
>with emphasis on the buzzwords of AI; Neural Nets, 
>Fuzzy Logic, Genetic Algorithms, etc. This course 
>will introduce the various concepts and focus on the 
>capabilities/limitations and especially applications
>of each method. 
>Then, the students will have to find applications for 
>mini projects in the realm of ME; robotics, controls
>(tons of research), fem, thermo, heat transfer, fluids,
>materials, etc. based on their particular interests.
>Coding will preferably be done using Matlab or even use
>any of the available PD-shareware packages.
>Does anyone have any suggestions on textbooks, intro notes,
>or anything else that would be suitable for such a course?
>If you have good material that could be used for introducing
>any of the above subjects please let me know. 
>I would be more than happy to compile a list of the suggestions
>and post them in this group.
>Thank you very much,
>Panos
>============================================================
>Dr. Panayiotis S. Shiakolas
>Mechanical Engineering Department   tel: (817) 272-5715
>University of Texas at Arlington    fax: (817) 272-2538 
>Arlington, TX 76019               email: shiakolas@uta.edu
>USA
>=============================================================
I think you have a great idea there in offering this course. I am
interested in a course in control system theory with enphasis on
state space methods. I would be willing to enroll in such a course
for a reasonable fee.

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There is also a huge volume of information on tensile/compressile and
impact strength testing equipment for the plastics industry (essentially
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interesting info here nonetheless...)
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rode in on...' or something like that at least."  -- Eek The Cat