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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions? -- From: "Matthew W. White"
Subject: Re: Laser Distance Measuring -- From: mcnab_p@melbpc.org.au (Peter McNab)
Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions? -- From: doolin@menkar.cs.utk.edu (David Doolin)
Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinion anyone? -- From: Nick Kew
Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions? -- From: "Dr. Andrew Wright"
Subject: Re: Fieldworks -- From: simple.survey.software@worldnet.att.net (Mark Huber)
Subject: Query on surveying software -- From: Paul
Subject: Re: Global Positioning Systems -- From: "Mr. Brooke Clarke"
Subject: Geomatics'97-Call-for-paper -- From: tyshih@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: New UK based Virtual Library for Engineering -- From: Roddy MacLeod
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Video Camera On a Chip to be produced in USA -- From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Subject: Re: Eagle Point, AutoCAD and You -- From: bwbunch@skn.net (Bryan Bunch)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Video Camera On a Chip to be produced in USA -- From: aaedonnelly@voyager.net
Subject: Trimble GPS for sale -- From: Bryan Hunley <"gpsbryan@rbnet.com"@rbnet.com>
Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions? -- From: kmuldrew@acs.ucalgary.ca (Ken Muldrew)
Subject: Engineering design project -- From: Matthew Holt
Subject: SurvCadd -- From: Steven Barbee
Subject: Re: Fieldworks -- From: survey@t-w-t.com (Kevin Murphy)
Subject: Re: Query on surveying software -- From: "Terry O'Shea"
Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinion anyone? -- From: Ed Hill
Subject: Re: Query on surveying software -- From: tsblue@longleaf.com (Thomas S. Blue)

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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions?
From: "Matthew W. White"
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:25:33 -0400
I think you have to consider two aspects of this discussion:
First, what is "publishing" with respect to scholarly works?  The peer review process for technical 
publications and the editoral process of the popular press add credability and legitimacy to the work in 
question.  A researcher can employ a vanity press to print a book with his pet theories without 
consideration of merit.  Thus you have to take a very guarded approach to using these references.  Just 
publishing faster w/o regard to quality is not an answer.
Please don't get me wrong - I think the WWW is the wave of the future for making technical information 
available.  Edison Welding Institute has established a site just for this purpose, and we include documents 
and links to non-reviewed and interim works.  However, we try to distinguish between these and papers which 
have undergone more scrutiny.  There are also some documents which we do not include, as they don't appear 
to be credible sources.  This is a critical role for all organizations which attempt to provide public 
information services
Second, how do you reference these documents?  Hopefully you can identify the author and the site from 
which you accessed the document.  I would think you would want to perform some additional verification of 
the author, etc.  Also, subject to copywrite restrictions, I think one would want to keep a copy of the 
document (hard copy and/or file).  At this point, I don't think you can depend on archives.
Matthew W. White
Edison Welding Institute
http://www.ewi.org
matthew_white@ewi.org
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Subject: Re: Laser Distance Measuring
From: mcnab_p@melbpc.org.au (Peter McNab)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 22:51:42
>>>I'm looking for a laser distance measuring module which outputs data 
>either serially or via some other protocol. Does anyone know of such a
>beast. If so please email the info. to the address below as well as to the
>group since I don't usually monitor this group. Thanks. <<
>The most cost effective solution is a handheld laser measuring device from
>Leica. The DISTO accurately measures distances up to 330 ft (100m) away
>with 1/8" accuracy (3 mm). It is also reflectorless...no prism is
>necessary. Data can be transferred seamlessly to any number of platforms,
>including handhelds, laptops, etc. through it's serial connection (RS232).
>Hope this helps.
>Bob Muscat
>Leica Inc.
Another company "Optech Systems Corporation" similarly make a Laser 
Rangefinder.The model 501SA/501SB appears specified for distances
between 10 .. 500 Metres and doesn't require a retro reflector.
Address 100 Wildcat Rd
North York (Toronto), Ontario
Canada  Ph 416 661-5904
        Fx 416 661-4168
  ,-._|\                  Peter McNab                        
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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions?
From: doolin@menkar.cs.utk.edu (David Doolin)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 11:44:13 GMT
In article <323DB1F3.2781@mae.carleton.ca>, Chad English  writes:
|> Kirk Kerekes wrote:
|> 
|> Agreed.  But that's not quite the issue I was bringing up.  A conference and a
|> journal issue are events that occur in time.  Even with a medium change, you
|> can (hopefully) find information from either of those by referencing the
|> event.  Using a URL is like referencing the library, not the event.  If the
|> URL is permanently associated with the paper, which doesn't make sense down
|> the road when things change (URL's change, storage mediums change), then it's
|> not a problem.  I was just looking for a way to permanently reference the
|> paper.  Perhaps if we approached the archive as a series of journals, give it
|> a permanent name, etc, and then use the dates, it may be better.
|> 
*We* have one good shot at doing this right, 'cause it will get done.
As an unpublished (no refereed pubs) grad student, I find the issue 
particularly relevant and interesting.  What I have done is convert
my stuff (conference offprints) to html and stick them on my web page.
I include the name of the copyright holder and that the documents are
offprints from such and such conference.   Since I use LaTeX, html is 
no extra effort, I just type a command and out pops the html, graphs, tables,
figures, references, etc.
What I am curious about is how the copyright holders are going to 
deal with it.  
In my opinion, ED's (electronic documents) ought to be archived by a dedicated
server similar to a library.  The peer review system probably should
stay more or less intact.  Publication would consist of periodic 
collections of peer reviewed material available online under a 
title.  The geotechnical community is expecting it's first issue
of just such a `journal.'
This is going to be really interesting.  As an interdisciplinary
effort, it had better include the library science folks as well
as the science and engineering community.  
Dave D
|> 
|> > How many 50-year-old academic papers have you _directly_ referenced?
|> 
|> Well, I can think of at least 2 greater than 50, and quite a few in the 25-30
|> years ago range, from my Master's thesis alone.  Some fundamental works will
|> be referenced for quite some time.
|> 
|> 
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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinion anyone?
From: Nick Kew
Date: 16 Sep 1996 22:27:16 GMT
> I agree and support the concept.  The problem I see is that it may be
> that many of the scientific journals will not be happy about being
> second in line for a paper though it could force them to provide
> electronic subscriptions.
My original suggestion is to hold *abstracts* online, with the provision
to hold full papers where appropriate.   Keeping abstracts in an easily-
searchable website would surely be a valuable service to researchers,
while referring them to the traditional publishing media for full papers.
My software will index and cross-reference the abstracts, and has the option
to hold any or all of the full papers online according to publisher choice.
As others have pointed out, the peer-review process is an important element
of academic publishing.   I believe web-based collaboration software can
be used to facilitate this process, providing a forum ("workgroup") whose
members are a paper's authors together with recognised referees in a
subject area.   Such papers may have readonly access to the general public
(or subscribers-only if a publisher prefers) while in the review process,
thus accelerating the publication cycle.
The technology is ready: we need only apply it!
Nick Kew.
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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions?
From: "Dr. Andrew Wright"
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:53:27 -0500
Regarding publishing via a web site.
1. As a researcher: If such a forum for scholarly work were available, I 
would definitely access it. Unless, it became obvious that the majority 
of the publications were trash and valueless.  Then the process of 
finding the worthwhile publication amongst the muck becomes more 
prohibitive than searching the existing literature.  This is yet another 
argument for refereed publications.
Furthermore, the presence of this site is not going to preclude 
searching the standard literature, since there are already many decades 
of worthwhile information available only in paper form.
2. As an author: I doubt that I would strictly publish in this forum.  
The lack of permanence and prestige are the two major factors.  I can 
see submitting to this forum IN ADDITION to the regular format.  
Unfortunately, if "web-publishing" counts as a form of publication, most 
journals require that you don't "dual-publish" the same material.
Consequently, I think a more rational approach is for authors to load 
their individual publications on their own web sites, and to have a 
centralized resource for searching among those web pages.
Andrew
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Subject: Re: Fieldworks
From: simple.survey.software@worldnet.att.net (Mark Huber)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:36:23 GMT
I have used FieldWorks a few times.  I'm very pleased but for a couple
of things.  I can't get much help from either Intergraph or Wild with
compatibility issues, and if you use the custom attributes, I can't
figure out how to justify the elevation at the decimal point.
Other than that, it's a grat piece of software.  I also demo
FieldWorks in a class that I teach for the Corps of Engineers.
Later,
Mark Huber
www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3319
adamw10331@aol.com (AdamW10331) wrote:
>Is anyone using FieldWorks for MicroStation?
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Subject: Query on surveying software
From: Paul
Date: 17 Sep 1996 23:21:24 GMT
Has anyone used Eagle Point Software  "RoadCalc" and its expanded 
features?
I don't want to buy a dog so if any one has any criticism, please forward 
it to me.
Any other competative software suggestions would be a bonus..
regards,
Paul Westhaver
paulwest@fox.nstn.ns.ca
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Subject: Re: Global Positioning Systems
From: "Mr. Brooke Clarke"
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 22:18:12 -0700
Hi:
You might check out: http://www.trimble.com/ and
http://www.navtechgps.com (Kaplans book is the best that I have seen)
The official site is: http://www.navcen.uscg.mil/navcen.htm
Do a web search for GPS and you will be reading for a couple of years.
Have Fun,
Brooke
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Subject: Geomatics'97-Call-for-paper
From: tyshih@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Date: 18 Sep 1996 11:58:43 GMT
                       CALL FOR PAPERS
             GIS AM/FM ASIA'97 & GeoInformatics'97:
               Mapping the Future of Asia-Pacific
		       May 26-29, 1997
	       World Trade Center, Taipei, Taiwan
Co-organized by
	Chinese Geographic Information Society, Taipei, Taiwan
	The Association of Chinese Professionals in GIS - Abroad
I. Introduction
    The GIS AM/FM ASIA conference series are organized by Asia GIS 
scholars in recognition of the growing GIS market in the Asia-Pacific 
region.  It provides the opportunity to discuss the latest development 
in GIS theory and spatial analysis as well as hardware and software 
development.  The first GIS AM/FM ASIA conference was held at Hong Kong 
in May 1994.  The second conference was held at Bangkok,  Tailand in 
August 1995.  During the meeting at Bangkok, The Chinese Geographic 
Information Society (CGIS) in Taiwan was authorized to organize the 
third conference in Taipei.
    The Geoinformatics is an annual conference series organized by 
CPGIS (The Association of Chinese Professional in GIS-abroad). The 
first Geoinformatics conference was held at Buffalo, New York in 1992.  
Since then, Geoinformatics conference has grown into a major 
international conference which attracts several hundreds people to 
attend.  The Geoinformatics conference has the tradition of rotating 
between North America and Asia region.  Taipei was chosen by the CPGIS 
Board of Directors as the site for Geoinformatics'97.
    As both conferences are to be held at Taipei, it is natural to 
combine them into a joint conference.  It is our sole intention that 
this joint conference will be a major GIS event in the Asia-Pasific 
area and will exert a great impact on activities in GIS, AM/FM, and 
other areas of Geoinformatics in the region.  The Organizing Committee 
and the Steering Committee of this joint conference encourage 
participants from all over the world to give presentations on basic 
research and pratical applications of Geoinformatics.
II. Conference Topics:
    Proposals related to the broad spectrum of GIS and AM/FM are 
welcome. Topics of this conference include, but not limited to:
GIS Applications
        Agriculture
        Business
        Ecology and Conservation
        Emergency Management and Response
        Environmental Modeling
        Forestry
        Geology
        Hazard Prediction and Control
        Land Records and Cadastre
        Oceanography, Coastal Zone, Marine Resources
        Public/Environmental Health and Safety
        Social Science
        Telecommunications
        Transportation
        Urban Study
        Utility and Public Works
        Waste Management
        Water Resources
        Wildlife Management and Fisheries
Spatial Data
        Data Structure
        Data Capture, Surveying, Remote Sensing, and GPS
        Data Accuracy and Data Quality
        Geodata Policy
        Spatial Data Standards
GIS Methods and New Techniques
        Automated Generalization
        Design and Implementation of GIS Applications
        GIS Project Development Standards
        Database Design and System Integration
        Spatial-Temporal GIS
        Integrated Multi-Source Spatial Data Analysis
        Spatial Decision Support System
        GIS and Artificial Intelligence
        Visualization and Multimedia
        Internet GIS
GIS Education
        K-12 Education
        Universities and Higher Education
Emerging Trends of GIS
III.  Abstract submission
  Important dates:
    Deadline of abstract: October 1, 1996
    Notification of Acceptance: November 1, 1996
    Deadline of Full Paper: February 1, 1997
    Deadline for Pre-Registration: March 25, 1997
 Format and submission of abstract
	The official language of this conference will be English.     
Abstract should include:
   1.  Name and affiliation of authors
   2.  Address(es) (both of mail and E-mail)
   3.  Title of the presentation
   4.  Abstract no longer than 250 words
  Address:
    Submit a paper copy of abstract to:
       Chinese Geographic Information Society
       P.O. Box 23-76, Taipei, Taiwan
       Tel: 886/2/362-1499; Fax: 886/2/362-2911
  Or, send a text file via Internet to
        tyshih@cc.nctu.edu.tw.
  For further information, please contact:
     Dr. Jinn-Guey Lay at jglay@ccms.ntu.edu.tw (for general information)
     Dr. Tian-Yuan Shih at tyshih@cc.nctu.edu.tw (for abstract and paper)
IV. About Taipei 
    Taipei City, lying at the center of Taipei Basin in the northern 
part of Taiwan, is the home of almost all major administrative, 
legislative and judicial authorities of Taiwan.  Besides, it is also 
the principal cultural and economic center and transportation hub of 
the region.  The city was first built in 1885 and cultural signs can 
be seen everywhere.  Certainly no visitors to the city will ever 
overlook the world renowned The National Palace Museum with the wealth 
of more than 600,000 priceless Chinese treasures, some dating back 
4,000 years.  Today, the city area has been expanded to cover 27,517 
hectares to accommodate more than 2.7 million registered residents. 
In fact, more than 4.7 million people are busy and bustling in the 
Greater Metro Taipei.  The average low and high temperatures of May 
in Taipei are 21C to 29C.  For more information, please visit the 
Web site at: http://www.tcg.gov.tw/index_e.html
VI. Organizing Committee:
Chairs:
Jinn-Guey Lay, National Taiwan University, Taipei, Taiwan
Lin Liu, University of New Orleans, New Orleans, USA
Members:
Tsu-How Chu, National Taiwan University, Taipei, Taiwan
Hsueh-Cheng Chou, National Taiwan Normal University, Taipei, Taiwan
Feng-Tian Lin, National Taiwan University, Taipei, Taiwan
Hui Lin, Chinese University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong
Pao-Hsu Shih, Institute for Information Industry, Taipei, Taiwan
Tian-Yuan Shih, National Chiao-Tung University, HsinChu, Taiwan
Yiyi Sun, East China Normal University, Nanjing, China
Qiming Zhou, University of New South Wales, Australia
A-Xing Zhu, University of Wisconsin, USA
VII. International Steering Committees
Chairs:
    Bin Li, University of Miami, Miami, USA
    Chin-Hong Sun, National Taiwan University, Taipei, Taiwan
Members:
Jicheng Cheng, Peking University, Beijing, China
YueMin Ding, NYNEX Science & Technology, White Plains, USA
Manfred M. Fischer, Vienna Univ.of Economics and Business 
		Administration, Vienna, Austria
Jianya Gong, Wuhan Technical University of Surveying and Mapping, 
		Wuhan, China
Peng Gong, University of California, Berkely, USA
Michael Goodchild, NCGIA, Santa Barbara, USA
Jyh-Sheng Ke, Institute for Information Industry, Taipei, Taiwan
Peter N. King, Asian Development Bank Mania, Manila, Philippines
Deren Li, Wuhan Technical University of Surveying & Mapping, Wuhan, China
Matthew McGranaghan, University of Hawaii, Honolulu, USA
Santiago Carcia de Juan, Instituto Geografico Nactonal, Spain
Shunji Murai, Asian Institute of Technology, Bangkok, Thailand
Chris Webster, University of Wales, UK
Jian Kang Wu, National University of Singapore, Singapore
Ahris Yaakup, Universiti Teknologi Malaysia, Malaysia
Kai Yang, Chinese Association of GIS, Beijing, China
Anthony Yeh, The University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong
Chenghu Zhou, Chinese Academy of Science, Beijing, China
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Subject: New UK based Virtual Library for Engineering
From: Roddy MacLeod
Date: 18 Sep 1996 11:07:05 GMT
EEVL, the new free UK based virtual library for Engineering, now 
live!
http://www.eevl.ac.uk/
The Edinburgh Engineering Virtual Library (EEVL) went live 
on Friday 13th September.  The EEVL gateway to Internet resources 
in Engineering will be extremely popular with the engineering 
community and will solve one of the main problems facing users of 
the Internet - locating useful resources from the millions 
available.
Earlier in the summer EEVL launched two useful services for 
engineers, the EEVL Engineering Newsgroup Archive, and the 
Offshore Engineering Information Service, both of which have 
proved successful.  Now EEVL's Main Service, its searchable 
database of high quality engineering networked resources, will be 
freely available to anyone anywhere in the world with an Internet 
connection and appropriate World Wide Web browsing software.
The database, containing descriptions and links to over 1300 
Internet resources in engineering, has an extremely user friendly 
interface, and allows practising engineers, academics, 
researchers, students, and information specialists to search or 
browse for engineering resources by title, keyword, or subject.  
The database is actively managed by a team of engineering 
information specialists, with headquarters at Heriot-Watt 
University Library, in Edinburgh, UK.  Resource 
descriptions and links are checked regularly, making EEVL the 
premier site on the Internet for locating UK engineering sites.  
Resources in the EEVL database include Web sites for engineering 
e-journals and electronic newsletter, engineering 
companies, professional societies and institutions, engineering 
departments within higher education, government sources, 
engineering email lists, resource guides and directories, 
research centres, recruitment services, software, and more.
EEVL fills a large gap for engineers and industrialists as far 
as Internet resources are concerned and it is likely that EEVL 
will become the first port of call for anyone looking for 
Engineering information on the Internet.
EEVL is funded through the Electronic Library Programme (eLib), 
managed by the Joint Information Systems Committee (JISC) on 
behalf of the UK Higher Education funding councils.  The EEVL 
Project lead sites are Heriot-Watt University Library, and the 
Heriot-Watt Institute for Computer Based Learning 
(ICBL).  Partner sites are the University of Edinburgh, Napier 
University, Cambridge University, Imperial College of Science, 
Technology and Medicine, the Nottingham Trent University, and the 
Institution of Electrical Engineers (IEE).
For more information, see the Web site at: http://www.eevl.ac.uk/
or
email eevl@icbl.hw.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Video Camera On a Chip to be produced in USA
From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Date: 18 Sep 1996 10:55:56 GMT
In article <51hqaf$prg@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>,
LEONARD MARSHALL  wrote:
>VIDEO CAMERA ON A CHIP made in USA
>
>The CMOS sensor has 72,000 pixels and has a  EIA  B&W; composite video
>ouput. Operates on only 5VDC @20Ma.vs. 120Ma for the standard CCD
>sensor.
>
>The complete camera on a chip  has all circuitry needed to see a 225 TV
>line B&W; picture on a standard video monitor.
>
>Complete camera on a chip will sell for under $20.00 in 10,000 pc.
>quantities. A complete camera with lens & miniature cabinet will sell
>for under 49.00 @ 500 pcs.
>
>For more information contact: Leonard Rogers or Nathan Mordukhay
>Optical Systems Div. Marshall Electronics.
>Lmarsgo@ix.netcom.com
>Tel:1-800-800-6608
-----------------------------------
They'll have to do a BIT better. I have lately seen a flood of used or
overstocked NTSC B&W; surveillance cameras out there for $50 each! For
something small, that's cute, but it'll have to come down to $20 to
actually dent the market, except for people building little "bug"
robots and blimps. That's a limited nich market. They will sell at $20
or $25, but it won't make them wealthy instantly! They'll have to work
some years to get the price down and profit up to do that! Then
they'll just make three of them into cheaper camcorders is all with
color filters. America DOES want cheaper camcorders!! If somebody can
hit the camcorder market at half the going price and small, they could
clean house. But that's the only way to sell those, except for tiny
surveillance, and that demand, despite news of terrible crime levels
is going down as crime is actually diminishing as the population ages.
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Subject: Re: Eagle Point, AutoCAD and You
From: bwbunch@skn.net (Bryan Bunch)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:20:35 GMT
I bought Eagle Point about three years back, installed it
and attempted to use it.
The surface modeling routines were slow, slow, slow,
especially the contouring portion.  Painfully slow.
The watershed modeling portion required so much input to get
around to entering Area, RCN and Tc that I thought i was
filling out my income tax return.
The print-outs for the watershed modeling were damn near
unreadable and included information that was not pertinent
to the analysis.
The storm sewer modeling was not half bad, but also required
me to call the IRS for input help.
Bottom line - I could compute the simple models faster
longhand with an HP hand held calculator.  The more complex
modeling could be performed more efficiently outside of
ACAD.  It was less trouble to load and unload different
programs than to use EP in ACAD.
I decided it was not my cup of tea, took it off my machine
and went back to TerraModel and Haestad Methods.  I found
that it is not completely necessary to do everything in
AutoCAD.
I then attempted to give the software away, however, Eagle
Point frowned on that.  I said, OK, I will burn the
software.  They let me give it away.
I other people like Eagle Point, more power to them.  I was
wasting my time with it.  Software is a personal preference,
not a religion.
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Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Video Camera On a Chip to be produced in USA
From: aaedonnelly@voyager.net
Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:58:08 GMT
Your missing the point of this camera.  The camera is a CMOS based camera, 
not CCD.  Therefore it WILL be cheaper.  Also, CMOS cameras allow you to 
integrate all you control circuitry.  In custom applications you can also 
put your own image processing algorithm right on the same chip.  Since the 
camera is CMOS, the power requirements are also much lowwer than CCD.  
Therefore, you get a small low power device.  If you think that this only 
addresses a niche market, then I guess NASA, laptop computers, toys, 
camcorders, and weapons are all niche markets!  Don't forget that the only 
difference between B&W; and color is just a color mask and interpolation 
logic.  Therefore, a $20 color camera is not a unreasonable requirement.  
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Subject: Trimble GPS for sale
From: Bryan Hunley <"gpsbryan@rbnet.com"@rbnet.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:32:58 -0700
Hello Everybody,
I have a Trimble Pathfinder Pro XL 12 Channel sub-meter unit for sale.
It comes with TDC1 datalogger with 4 meg of memory, Asset Surveyor and
Pfinder software, and hard shell case.  I will set the purchaser up with
a 1 year hardware, software, firmware warranty ($1000.00 value).  I am
asking $7600.00 for the unit.  If interested please contact
gpsbryan@rbnet.com.
Thanks,
Bryan Hunley
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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinions?
From: kmuldrew@acs.ucalgary.ca (Ken Muldrew)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:41:27 GMT
"Dr. Andrew Wright"  wrote:
>Regarding publishing via a web site.
>1. As a researcher: If such a forum for scholarly work were available, I 
>would definitely access it. Unless, it became obvious that the majority 
>of the publications were trash and valueless.  Then the process of 
>finding the worthwhile publication amongst the muck becomes more 
>prohibitive than searching the existing literature.  This is yet another 
>argument for refereed publications.
I think most of those involved in scholarly research will agree that
peer review is essential for a finished publication. Any web journal
that intends to publish such literature should also display its
editorial board so that prospective readers can evaluate the worth of
the contents before investing too much time in reading.
On the other hand, the physics preprint server is dishing out papers
at about 70,000 per day, so a lot of people are finding this useful.
People are, however, posting updates to their preprints following peer
review so in many cases, it's actually a reprint server. You can see
it at http://xxx.lanl.gov/
>Consequently, I think a more rational approach is for authors to load 
>their individual publications on their own web sites, and to have a 
>centralized resource for searching among those web pages.
Unfortunately that is a violation of copyright law. It would be nice
if the journals would allow such practice, though.
Ken Muldrew
kmuldrew@acs.ucalgary.ca
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Subject: Engineering design project
From: Matthew Holt
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:15:01 -0400
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> Hello, I am Matt and I go to collage at Maine Maritime Academy and I
> have a design engineering project do for a capstone design project here.
>  I was wondering if anybody could come up with a design idea for me!
> The budget is very limited here but I will be working with two other
> people.  This is a fifth year desgn product so it must also be heavy
> enough to spend four months just in preliminary design process.  Any
> suggestions would be very helpful.
>                                 Thank you,
>                                         Matt
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> Hello, I am Matt and I go to collage at Maine Maritime Academy and I
> have a design engineering project do for a capstone design project here.
>  I was wondering if anybody could come up with a design idea for me!
> The budget is very limited here but I will be working with two other
> people.  This is a fifth year desgn product so it must also be heavy
> enough to spend four months just in preliminary design process.  Any
> suggestions would be very helpful.
>                                 Thank you,
>                                         Matt
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Hello, I am Matt and I go to collage at Maine Maritime Academy and I 
have a design engineering project do for a capstone design project here. 
 I was wondering if anybody could come up with a design idea for me!  
The budget is very limited here but I will be working with two other 
people.  This is a fifth year desgn product so it must also be heavy 
enough to spend four months just in preliminary design process.  Any 
suggestions would be very helpful.
				Thank you,
					Matt
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Subject: SurvCadd
From: Steven Barbee
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:17:20 -0400
I am looking for SurvCADD users. Please drop me a line. 
Steve Barbee
Carlson Software
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Subject: Re: Fieldworks
From: survey@t-w-t.com (Kevin Murphy)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:39:12 GMT
>leegreen@aol.com (Lee Green) wrote:
>In article <51et5n$mob@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, adamw10331@aol.com
>(AdamW10331) writes:
>>Is anyone using FieldWorks for MicroStation?
>Yes, I use it every day. It works great with the SDR33 and we've recently
>imported RTK data from our Leica GPS receivers, with excellent results.
>What would would you like to know??
>FYI: I'm also very efficient in using Geopak Survey and InRoads. So ask
>away............
>_______________________________________________________________
>Lionel E. (Lee) Green                                      
>Survey/CAD Tech, Systems Admin                             
>Fisher Associates P.E., L.S., P.C.                         
>Clyde, New York 14433                                      
>                                                           
>Email:  lgreen@redcreek.com
>FTP://redcreek.com/lgreen                             
>HTTP://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fisher_assoc
>________________________________________________________
>Lionel E. (Lee) Green
>Survey/CAD Tech, Systems Admin
>Fisher Associates P.E., L.S., P.C.
>Clyde, New York 14433       
>Email:  leegreen@aol.com                              
>HTTP://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fisher_assoc
Is there a way to get fieldworks to work with script files for input ?
Is there a way to get Fieldworks to work with attribute data to
calculate inverts ?
tia
Kevin
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Subject: Re: Query on surveying software
From: "Terry O'Shea"
Date: 19 Sep 1996 01:22:39 GMT
The software I currently use is GeoCalc coordinate geometry software which
can be found at http://www.oxford.net/~toshea/geocalc.htm to process field
surveys.
For design work I use the Softdesk Civil/Survey package which will take
care of your surveying and engineering needs inside of AutoCAD.
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Subject: Re: Publishing Scholarly Work on the Web -- opinion anyone?
From: Ed Hill
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:03:01 -0400
Mark Brigham wrote:
> 
> I urge those interested in this topic to get ahold of William Glaze's editorial
> in the July issue of Enivronmental Science and Technology (v. 30, p. 273A-274A).
> 
I agree, the article is well worth a few minutes' consideration.
I think the solution is to keep the established journals and peer 
review process, but to work towards accelerating the overall time 
to publication and increasing availability.  Peer review will always 
take some time (weeks or months) and this should be understood and 
accepted as a necessary part of producing quality work.  What is 
becoming unnecessary and therefore unacceptable is the effort and 
tedium required to obtain journal articles by photocopying or through 
traditional inter-library services.
All new articles should be put ONLINE by the journal publishers.  The 
technology exists and journal subscribers/clients will increasingly 
demand it.  There are no good reasons why the endless photocopying and 
slow physical deliveries must persist.  The sooner that publishers can 
set up reasonable online distribution, including fair payment for their 
publishing and review services, the better for all involved!
Ed
> 
> --
> Mark E. Brigham, Environmental Engineer -- email: mbrigham@usgs.gov
> U. S. Geological Survey, 2280 Woodale Drive, Mounds View, MN 55112-0049
> WWW: http://wwwmn.cr.usgs.gov/
> 
-- 
///  Ed Hill                                           
///  Center for Multiphase Research    
///  UNC  Dept. Env. Sci. & Engr.                   Voice (919) 966-7892
///  Chapel Hill, NC  27599-7400                     Fax  (919) 966-7911
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Subject: Re: Query on surveying software
From: tsblue@longleaf.com (Thomas S. Blue)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:04:15 GMT
Paul  wrote:
>Has anyone used Eagle Point Software  "RoadCalc" and its expanded 
>features?
>I don't want to buy a dog so if any one has any criticism, please forward 
>it to me.
>Any other competative software suggestions would be a bonus..
>regards,
>Paul Westhaver
>paulwest@fox.nstn.ns.ca
...I have been trying out Terramodel. The road design module has
turned out to be much better than expected (easier to use, fast
inputs).
...I have been told that Intergraph produces a good road design
package.
...Most engineers I know use Softdesk for road design. I am not sure
about all the features, but it seems to be very popular.
+
  Thomas S. Blue - tsblue@longleaf.com - http://www.longleaf.com
  Environmental Consulting and Engineering
  PhD student - Civil Engineering & Soil Science
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