Subject: Re: Records of Survey
From: "John F. Bennett"
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:58:29 -0800
Alaska passed a Record of Survey law in 1986. In my discussions with
land surveyors throughout our state I have found many interpretations as
to when the filing of a Record of Survey plat is required. As a part of
our 1997 Surveying Conference I am preparing a presentation based on a
poll of Alaskan surveying businesses regarding their policy on Records
of Surveys. To get a feel for similar types of laws in other states, I
am presenting questions from my poll in this newsgroup. If your state
has some kind of a Record of Survey law, please respond as to how your
statute might address these questions. Please note which state you are
replying from.
1. A client requests that you monument their property which is based
upon a metes and bounds description. The property has not previously
been monumented or platted. In your opinion, the most appropriate
response is (Select A, B, C or D):
2. A client requests that you monument their property which is based
upon an old recorded subdivision plat. The subdivision had never been
monumented (paper plat). In your opinion, the most appropriate response
is (Select A, B, C or D):
3. A client requests that you monument their property which was
previously monumented according to a recorded survey plat. The original
monuments had been destroyed in the development of the property. In
your opinion, the most appropriate response is (Select A, B, C or D):
(A) Statute requires that a Record of Survey be prepared and recorded.
(B) Although not required by statute, upon request and for an
additional fee, a plat of the survey will be prepared and recorded.
(C) The preparation and recording of a plat may be required if the
survey discloses evidence or boundaries that significantly differ from
the record.
(D) None of the above - Write out your own response below.
4. A material discrepancy with a plat of record exists when your
monumented positions vary from the previous record by:
(A) 0.2 to 1.0 feet
(B) More than 1.0 foot
(C) An amount greater than the accuracy specified or expected for the
original survey.
(D) None of the above - Write out your own response below.
Subject: Surface modelling software?
From: "The Discovery Programme Ltd."
Date: 20 Sep 1996 11:45:57 GMT
I am chief surveyor with The Discovery Programme, an Irish based
Archaeological research company. Over the past number of years, we have
carried out detailed topographic surveys of archaeological monuments
throughout the country. Obviously, we want to be able to portray these
sites in the best possible format for easy interpretation. To date we
have been using ArcInfo's TIN module for creating surface models etc.
What we would like, is a windows based modelling system with similar
funtions and faster production. We have explored the possibility of using
Surfer 6.0, but were disappointed by the lack of breakline support. We
would require the following functions: a good range of interpolation
functions; the usual contour generation and surface views; surface
shading; surface draping, (raster and vector); compatability with AutoCAD
r12 .dwg/.dxf; surface profiles; volume calculations and anything else
that looks good.
Any opinions/advice would be welcome.
Go raibh mile maith agat.
Barry M. Masterson, MIS
Subject: Surveyors Right to Enter
From: Kenneth Russell
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 08:22:38 -0500
I know that this is not uncommon,
You are in the field performing a retracement of
a tract that has several adjoiners;
You and your crew have to traverse around trees,
over ditches, through swamps and avoid cattle;
Your best visibility may not be on the parcel that
you are surveying, so you set up on adjoining land.
Suddenly, the owner of the adjoining property appears
and tells you to get off his land, and that he doesn't
care if you are only surveying, and have taken care
not to disturb crops, fences or anything.
This owner is being real obnoxious (it is no wonder
that the client has decided to move !).
Of course IF he is armed, we always leave !
But my questions are these . . .
What do other surveyors do ?
What is the Law regarding this situation:
In Indiana, Ohio and Michigan
and in other States.
Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
Subject: Re: Surface modelling software?
From: swiloughby@aol.com (Swiloughby)
Date: 20 Sep 1996 14:03:26 -0400
In article <51u05l$ula@nuacht.iol.ie>, "The Discovery Programme Ltd."
writes:
>
>I am chief surveyor with The Discovery Programme, an Irish based
>Archaeological research company. Over the past number of years, we have
>carried out detailed topographic surveys of archaeological monuments
>throughout the country. Obviously, we want to be able to portray these
>sites in the best possible format for easy interpretation. To date we
>have been using ArcInfo's TIN module for creating surface models etc.
>
>What we would like, is a windows based modelling system with similar
>funtions and faster production. We have explored the possibility of
using
>Surfer 6.0, but were disappointed by the lack of breakline support. We
>would require the following functions: a good range of interpolation
>functions; the usual contour generation and surface views; surface
>shading; surface draping, (raster and vector); compatability with AutoCAD
>r12 .dwg/.dxf; surface profiles; volume calculations and anything else
>that looks good.
>
>Any opinions/advice would be welcome.
>
>Go raibh mile maith agat.
>
>Barry M. Masterson, MIS
>
>
>
GEOPAK has a product that is probably the fastest modeling package
available. It easily supports all of the above mentioned features and
more. It runs on a CAD package called MicroStation(it's better than and
compatible with the 'A' package you refered to). They can be contacted at
1-888-GEOPAK1, or on the web at http://www.geopak.com/
Steve Willoughby
Subject: Re: Surface modelling software?
From: Bill Walton
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:16:31 -0700
The Discovery Programme Ltd. wrote:
>
> I am chief surveyor with The Discovery Programme, an Irish based
> Archaeological research company. Over the past number of years, we have
> carried out detailed topographic surveys of archaeological monuments
> throughout the country. Obviously, we want to be able to portray these
> sites in the best possible format for easy interpretation. To date we
> have been using ArcInfo's TIN module for creating surface models etc.
>
> What we would like, is a windows based modelling system with similar
> funtions and faster production. We have explored the possibility of using
> Surfer 6.0, but were disappointed by the lack of breakline support. We
> would require the following functions: a good range of interpolation
> functions; the usual contour generation and surface views; surface
> shading; surface draping, (raster and vector); compatability with AutoCAD
> r12 .dwg/.dxf; surface profiles; volume calculations and anything else
> that looks good.
>
> Any opinions/advice would be welcome.
>
> Go raibh mile maith agat.
>
> Barry M. Masterson, MIS
The best ACAD based surface modeler out there is called QuickSurf by
Schreiber Instruments Inc. It's extremely fast, offers excellent
breakline support, and doesn't require a million other "modules" to run.
Take a peek at www.schreiber.com
--
Best Regards
Bill Walton
Subject: First Public release of GEO (coordinate conversion program)
From: Anton Helm
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:17:33 +0200
GEO is controlled by scripts which can be written with any text editor.
Features:
- (exact) 3D datum transform
- molodensky datum transform
- Gauss-Krueger projection (configurable parameters)
- grid transform
- estimation of a simple 2D grid transform equation for
use with a pocket calculator
supported coordinates:
- Lon/Lat/Height
- earth centered earth fixed cartesian coordinates (X, Y, Z)
- grid coordinates (Northing/Easting/Height)
supported datums:
The program comes with a set of 125 datums, but it is fully
configurable.
supported grids:
The program comes with a set of grids, but it is fully configurable.
Distribution:
=============
GEO is distributed as FREEWARE under GNU GPL.
ANSI-C source code is available by anonymous ftp from:
ftp://cantor.nt.tuwien.ac.at/tony/geo/
The source files are named geoXXsrc.EXTENSION
where XX is the version number (currently 20) and EXTENSION refers to
the
compression method (currently zip, tar.Z and tar.gz available).
For MS-DOS users there is also a DJGPP compiled binary geoXXbin.zip
available.
All distribution files contain sample scripts and documentation.
Questions, bug-reports etc. should be sent to
tony@nt.tuwien.ac.at
Everyone is invited to contribute to GEO:
- If you want to add functionalty to GEO
- If your local datum is named "H7qGTI__aaaarrrgh" and you think the
parameters should be added to the GEO configs
- etc.
just send e-mail.
Have fun with GEO!
Tony
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Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Video Camera On a Chip to be produced in USA
From: guz2@fm550g.cc.lehigh.edu (GUANGHUA ZHANG)
Date: 19 Sep 1996 17:53:56 GMT
Richard Steven Walz (rstevew@armory.com) wrote:
: In article <51hqaf$prg@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>,
: LEONARD MARSHALL wrote:
: >VIDEO CAMERA ON A CHIP made in USA
: >
: >The CMOS sensor has 72,000 pixels and has a EIA B&W; composite video
: >ouput. Operates on only 5VDC @20Ma.vs. 120Ma for the standard CCD
: >sensor.
: >
: >The complete camera on a chip has all circuitry needed to see a 225 TV
: >line B&W; picture on a standard video monitor.
: >
: >Complete camera on a chip will sell for under $20.00 in 10,000 pc.
: >quantities. A complete camera with lens & miniature cabinet will sell
: >for under 49.00 @ 500 pcs.
: >
: >For more information contact: Leonard Rogers or Nathan Mordukhay
: >Optical Systems Div. Marshall Electronics.
: >Lmarsgo@ix.netcom.com
: >Tel:1-800-800-6608
: -----------------------------------
: They'll have to do a BIT better. I have lately seen a flood of used or
: overstocked NTSC B&W; surveillance cameras out there for $50 each! For
: something small, that's cute, but it'll have to come down to $20 to
: actually dent the market, except for people building little "bug"
: robots and blimps. That's a limited nich market. They will sell at $20
: or $25, but it won't make them wealthy instantly! They'll have to work
: some years to get the price down and profit up to do that! Then
: they'll just make three of them into cheaper camcorders is all with
: color filters. America DOES want cheaper camcorders!! If somebody can
: hit the camcorder market at half the going price and small, they could
: clean house. But that's the only way to sell those, except for tiny
: surveillance, and that demand, despite news of terrible crime levels
: is going down as crime is actually diminishing as the population ages.
: -Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/
: --
The above camera is on the expensive side.
I know a company sells CMOS cameras at a much cheaper price.
Camera 1:a complete system for under $40 in large quantities.
The PCB, including chip and all other components, measures 22mm diameter.
The device features automatic exposure control over 5,000:1, enabling the
use of a fixed-aperture lens. Automatic gain control provides up to +10dB
gain boost at low light levels.
. Resolution: 369*287;
. Pixel size: 10.8*10.8um2;
. Sensing area: 3.99*3.10mm2;
. Min illumination: 0.5 Lux;
. Video output: CCIR standard
. Lens:1/3 inch;
. Supply voltage: 7-12V DC;
. Power: < 200mW;
Camera 2: a complete system for under $70 in large quantities.
This has all the features mentioned above.
The PCB, including chip and all other components, measures 30 mm diameter.
. Resolution: 768*574 ( also selectable for 640*480 and 512*512)
. Pixel size: 10.8*10.8um2;
. Sensing area: 8.29*6.20mm2;
. Min illumination: 0.2 Lux;
. Video output: CCIR and EIA format
. Lens:2/3 inch;
. Supply voltage: 7-12V DC;
. Power: < 300mW;
. Non-interlace selection for image acquisition;
Gary Zhang
EECS Department Tel: (610) 758 4064
Lehigh University, Fax: (610) 758 6279
Bethlehem, PA 18015 Email: gzhang@vast.eecs.lehigh.edu
Subject: Re: Surveyors Right to Enter
From: Jim Pauk
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:12:03 -0700
Kenneth Russell wrote:
>
>
> What do other surveyors do ?
>
In Illinois and Missouri, we have the right to trespass on the land of
someone for whom we are not performing the survey but we are liable for
any damage that we do (brush cutting, etc.) However, several years ago
I was involved in a survey of some land for the owner and his renter ran
us off. The local sheriff refused to enforce our right to be there
because we were "trespassing" on the land of our client, not that of an
adjoining owner. (No, I don't know if the landowner evicted his tenant
but I sure would have!)
Subject: Re: Surveyors Right to Enter
From: tbixlerps@aol.com (TBixlerPS)
Date: 20 Sep 1996 19:48:43 -0400
In article , Kenneth Russell
writes:
>But my questions are these . . .
>
>What do other surveyors do ?
>
>What is the Law regarding this situation:
>
> In Indiana, Ohio and Michigan
>
>and in other States.
>
>Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
In Ohio, regarding eminent domain proceedings, Section 163.03 of the
Revised Code states "Any agency may, upon the notice prescribed in this
section,.....enter upon any lands, waters, and premises for the purpose of
making such surveys, soundings, drillings, appraisals, and examinations as
are necessary or proper for the purpose of the agency....and such entry
shall not constitute a trespass. Notice of such proposed entry shall be
given to the owner or the person in possession by such means as are
reasonably available not less than 48 hours nor more than 30 days prior to
the date of such entry."
"The agency shall make restitution or reimbursement for any actual
damage resulting to such lands, waters, and premises and to improvements
or personal property located in, on, along, over, or under such lands,
waters, and premises, as a result of such activities. If the parties are
unable to agree upon restitution or other settlement, damages are
recoverable by civil action to which the state or agency hereby consents."
There are similar statutes covering planning commissions, electric
companies, regional transit authorities, water and sewer districts, etc
...
There are no statutes in Ohio that give private Surveyors a right of entry
that I am aware of.
Adjoiners are usually cooperative if permission is asked prior to crossing
their land especially if you are performing a boundary that will determine
at least one of their property lines.