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In article <32AF04A6.54CA@to.foil.spammers>, Eric AndersonReturn to Topwrote: > Ian Staples wrote: > > > > ladasky@leland.Stanford.EDU (John Ladasky) writes: > > > > >Eric Anderson wrote: > > > > > >>The morbid side of me would love to see the ensuing melee among all you > > >>greens when it turns out the [best] way to "save the Earth" is to launch > > >>several nuclear missiles into space.....I > > >>suspect Greenpeace would prefer the asteroid strike. > > > > > Absurd. I can't think of any better way to dispose of nuclear > > >weapons. Please check your Luddite stereotypes of the Greens at the door. > > > > Of course, we true greens wouldn't worry about it at all. Who could > > pass up the opportunity for disturbance of this magnitude which would > > ensure another major species radiation on the planet? > > ;-) > > No can do, John. The stereotype is alive and kicking. Thanks, Ian! > (I suspect you're not serious but I appreciate the sentiment.) > > The melee begins... > > BTW, I can't think of a better way of disposing of those pesky nukes > either. Given the present launcher success rate of around 5-10% I can think of few worse ways of disposing of such weapons! Phil.
JimReturn to Topwrote: [edited] >If you dislike or disbelieve Erlich, there are plenty of other >scientists to attempt to discredit. I believe about 1500 of them put >their name to a document in 92' that basically paraphrased what Erlich >has been saying. It was called the "World Scientist's Warning to >Humanity." I am uncertain what you mean here. Are you making fun of these poor people for their mental lapse? Possibly you think that 1500 is a large number of scientists? If so, I must inform you that there are 519,000 "natural scientists" in the US alone, and that's just chemists, geologists, biologists, and medical scientists, not counting engineers, academics, social scientists, mathematicians, physicals or scientists working in any other nation (see US Statistical Abstracts 1996, DOC Table 637). In that context, maybe the 0.3% who were willing to sign the document appears to be an impressive percentage of the total, but I cannot concur. I think you could get 0.3% of scientists to sign a document stating that evolution is a hoax. As a matter of fact, I think I read somewhere exactly that. I am not impressed with that either. Regards, Harold ---- "But I am deeply convinced that any permanent, regular, administrative system whose aim will be to provide for the needs of the poor will breed more miseries than it can cure, will deprave the population that it wants to help and comfort, will in time reduce the rich to being no more than the tenant-farmers of the poor, will dry up the source of savings, will stop the accumulation of capital, will retard the development of trade, will benumb human industry and activity" --Alexis de Tocqueville, Memoir on Pauperism , 1835
(Sent to both e-mail and news groups.) Dave Newton wrote: > > Dan Evens wrote: > > If you really want to know what is to be done with nuclear waste, > > I can give you the details. They are really rather boring and > > mundane, and not a whole lot of excitement. > > Wouldn't mind, e-mail would probably be better to avoid massive flamage. > I haven't kept up with the nuclear debate (I suppose I'm tending towards > anti-nuke) and would be curious to hear what the current state-of-the-art > is. Thanks. The number one item on the list of requirements for disposal of nuclear waste (in the Canadian program, which is the only one I can speak to) is that it must not provide a burden to future generations. For example, one of the specifications is that the disposal vault not be cracked open if glaciation should return to the area. For starters, there is some information here. http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cz725/ A book on the whole nuclear issue is _The Anti Nuclear Game_ by Gordon Sims, University of Ottawa Press, 1990. This discusses the waste disposal issue as well as several other issues. Still want more? Rattle my cage again. -- Standard disclaimers apply. I don't buy from people who advertise by e-mail. I don't buy from their ISPs. Dan EvensReturn to Top
Kevin Jones wrote: > > Dan Evens wrote: > > > > Kjones@interlynx.net wrote: > > > That's what this discussion is about. All forms of generation we use now > > > have had decades or centuries of research and experimentation to bring > > > them to the level of technology they are at today. Wind, solar, wave, etc > > > are in their infancy in comparison. > > > > Ahem. Wind in its infancy? DOH! Ever heard of a sailboat? A > > windmill? > > Wind as an energy source is millenia old. > > As far a generating MW of power, and connecting it to some sort of a > power grid, etc....yes, infancy. As far as generating MW of power ALL forms of energy are in their infancy then. As far as feeding power into a grid, ALL forms of energy are in their infancy. The "poor little wind industry" notion is a total bogus strawman. -- Standard disclaimers apply. I don't buy from people who advertise by e-mail. I don't buy from their ISPs. Dan EvensReturn to Top
In article <58qs1t$8mu@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, jwas@ix.netcom.com(jw) writes: > [snipped] >Consider pharmaceutics. It is not just FDA approval >time (which has been shortened, after much >desperate struggle.) According to Henry Miller, of >Stanford University, a former FDA >staffer, "the real problem lies in FDA regulations that lengthen >the process of drug development, now estimated to take an average >of 10 years and cost $500 million per drug." (_Science_, 12-10-96). >All this with no guarantee even of being approved >- or of being the first and making money. >And besides the half billion bucks and the ten years, >one also needs the bureaucratic know-how, >the intimate knowledge of the process. > >Who can afford all that, except the largest >corporations? But having that protection, they, >too, have little incentive to innovate: >repackaging old drugs works just fine for *them*. >So people keep suffering and dying unnecessarily. >Progress is stifled while bureaucratic interests are >protected, and so are oligopolistic interests. Also.. think about the technological progress being stifled here.. even for the large corporations. Consider, for a minute, if computer microprocessors were subjected to the same level of artificial control. I bet I'd still be keying in machine code on an Altair waiting for that new "8-bit" standard to be approved by twenty beurocracies. (BTW, I deleted a few irrelevant newsgroups from the header)Return to Top
In article <19961212152909153715@yellow-dou-52.wanadoo.fr>, Neil CordwellReturn to Topwrote: >Dan Evens wrote: >> >> There would be snow-drifts of dead >> birds under the blades. >This sounds a bit of an exageration. To put it into prespective, could >you please tell us how many birds were killed during Chenobyl and Three >Mile Island? On and on about 10 years in the past. The nuclear power industry will probably STILL be hearing about Three Mile Island 100 years from now. >How much land is required for a 1200MW nuclear site (please include >waste processing, mining of uranium or plutonium, storing of waste >products, etc.) > >It might be interesting to think what will happen when the present day >nuclear power stations need decommisioning. What are we going to do with >all the nice hot waste? What do present-day coal plants do will all the kilotons upon kilotons of nice, poisonous cadmium, mercury, uranium, lead, SO2, CO2, etc, etc, etc? Double standards abound, it seems, in evaluation of nuclear power. -Mike Pelletier.
David Lloyd-JonesReturn to Topwrote in article > > Actually the last tomatoes I grew, I grew on the porch on the south > side of my apartment block in Tokyo. I mixed them with the lettuce > from a farm which I cycled to at dawn every morning. I paid something > like $15 to have two square meters for the season, and got tomatoes, > cucumbers, spring onions, a couple of lettuces, and a few other nice > surprises out of it. > But a few vegetables do not a diet make. To support your claim (if indeed you are really claiming) that a large city can supply its own food, you'll have to show that cities with population densities of 30-50 people per acre (NYC--the whole thing, is 41/acre) can feed that many. That might be difficult. First of all you won't be able to get an acre of growing land/acre of city (even using balcony plots), and even then you better look at yields per acre. Just citing one--U.S. grain production, at 3200 lbs per acre only supplies .2 lbs per day per person. You can do better with potatoes, but I don't think those grow well in window boxes. Getting the necessary proteins, any significant amount of fruit, and certainly any kind of variety is really not possible for these population densities using so little land. You still need food grown outside the city to support the city. > It was all run by the guy who owned the land, a millionaire developer > who did all this stuff because he liked fresh vegetables too. > > All the stuff I tell you about how much you can grow in the city is > actual true stuff that I have seen and done. Unlike you, kid, I don't > make this stuff up. > > >Oh yeah, I forgot to add. Final output will be measured on final quality > >as well as quantity. See if you crappy produce could compete with his! > > Toby, you ignorant little squirt, I've done it. You haven't. > > Why do you find it necessary to belittle and demean almost everyone who doesn't agree 100% with you--and probably most who do? Do you really think this behavior strengthens your arguments (as opposed to reflecting back on yourself)? I personally don't care what you say about me or others, but I would like to use these newsgroups as information resources for my classes and would like students to be able to concentrate on the content instead of the vitriolic nature of the participants. Oh well, maybe they need to learn what kind of folk are really out there with whom they will have to deal. > > -dlj. > RWT
Phil Felton includes re rocket launches: Given the present launcher success rate of around 5-10% I can think of few worse ways of disposing of such weapons! Add Felton to your list of those who invent statistics. -- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305 http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/ During the last years of the Second Millenium, the Earthmen complained a lot.Return to Top
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In article <99-1212961830040001@ibpd-628.phys.uh.edu>, Extremely Right <99@spies.com> wrote: >Reduction of CO2 and the entire sustainable development scam will initiate >a global depression. IF it is carried out, the level of production, >*proportional* to CO2 output, would add a deficit to our trade balance. C'mon, Extremely, you can do better than that. You've heard of the concept of "technology", right? You know, this crazy thing that supposedly advances as time goes on and makes things more efficient? By way of example, we don't really need several hundred horsepower in a car. A compact car only weights four times as much as a horse. So why does it need ninety times the power of a horse? No one uses compacts to haul anything. In Europe those cars would have about a third to a half that much power, and they'd burn a proportionately less amount of fuel as well. Or, for that matter, we don't really need to burn gasoline in there at all. We have other ways of powering cars. (Liquid natural gas, electricity, etc.) The emissions from these would be a fraction of what they are now. And cars are far and away the greatest emitters of CO2 and, for that matter, CO. But why don't we? Two words. Big. Oil. >A reduction in food production in N. America would create a famine because >the US and Canada are the only two NET food exporters. WTF does food production have to do with CO2 emissions? _______________________________________________________________________ |The Stilt Man stiltman@teleport.com | | --Truth fears no questions http://www.teleport.com/~stiltman | |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=| |Solicitor advisory: Your email will be better received in a black hole.| |_______________________________________________________________________| X-no-archive: yesReturn to Top
redin@lysator.liu.se (Magnus Redin) wrote: > > TL ADAMSReturn to Topwrites: > > > Why, does the truth hurt. The commercial power/weapons production > > are so closely entwined that how can you remove your self from eco > > nightmares like Hanford. > > Its not hard when living in a country that has not built any nuclear > weapons and has a very well run nuclear program. > > Regards, > -- > -- > Magnus Redin Lysator Academic Computer Society redin@lysator.liu.se > Mail: Magnus Redin, Björnkärrsgatan 11 B 20, 584 36 LINKöPING, SWEDEN > Phone: Sweden (0)13 260046 (answering machine) and (0)13 214600 Point well taken, and I will concur. But are you also a country that has had the political will to make the hard decisions about disposal site? Not a rhetorical question, I really don't know. Me, I say put the stuff into the salt domes, alot safer than the crap that is leaking now. Fifty years into the program, and still no perm solution. (Yes, I know that the salt dome place is just an "demonstration" project. And how do we know that you've not built any nukes. Arn't you worried about those shiftless Norgewegioan (sp?), what about those sneaky danes. (GRIN)
dlj@inforamp.net (David Lloyd-Jones) writes: > On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:06:24 GMT, wf3h@enter.net (bob puharic) wrote: > > >dlj@inforamp.net (David Lloyd-Jones) wrote: > >>The fact is the Roman Catholic view of family life, including sex, > >>leaves plenty of room for birth control. > > > >"every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or > >in its accomplishment....proposes, whether as an end or as a means to > >render procreation impossible is intrinsically evil" "the Catechism of > >the Catholic church", paragraph 2370. doesnt sound like plenty of room > >for birth control to me. > > If I was interested in paragraph 2370 of "the Catechism of the > Catholic church", I would ask -- as no doubt would many Catholics. The Catechism of the Catholic Church happens to be a place where the official teaching of the RC Church is recorded. If you make a claim about Catholic doctrine (which is what you are clearly doing in your original post) then it ought to agree with the CCC. Paragraph 2370 is explaining the criteria by which RC Church defines which forms of birth control are unacceptable. It was a pleasant change to see someone using a correct reference to establish what the RC Church teaches. Bob is to be commended. These criteria still allow for all methods of birth control relying on periodic abstinence. Trussel, et al in "A Guide to Interpreting Contraceptive Efficacy Studies" in Ob&Gyn; vol 76, no 3, lists four of these methods. He calculates their method failure rates (i.e. accidental pregnancy rate among those who abstain when the method predicts possible fertility) are: Calendar (this is the old rhythm method) 9% Ovulation 3% Sympto-thermal 2% Post-ovulation 1% > Meanwhile I stand by the accuracy of what I said above about the Roman > Catholic view of family life, including sex. You seriously damage your credibility when you do not appear to understand the significance of the Catechism for your argument. If you wish to claim that RC practice does not match the Church's official teaching that would be a perfectly valid point. If you make claims, however, about RC doctrine, as you did, then you need to understand what that doctrine says and where it is recorded. JayneReturn to Top
Here is the latest story from the European Nuclear Society's NUCNET ( http://www.aey.ch/nucnet/ ). The World's Nuclear News Agency Operated by the European Nuclear Society 12-Dec-1996 Romanian N-Plant Now Big Oil-Saver & Winter Warmer RENEL, Romania's national electric utility, says that - with immediate effect - the country's first nuclear power unit will mean a saving in oil imports worth US$ 150 million a year. Unit 1 of the Cernavoda nuclear power station, east of the capital, Bucharest, went into commercial operation on December 2nd. The Canadian-designed CANDU-type reactor is now meeting about 10% of Romania's electricity demand, generating about 4.2 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity per year. This will mean an annual saving of 1.4 million tonnes of imported oil. Cernavoda-1 is the first Western-designed power reactor block in Eastern Europe. The 700-megawatt pressurised heavy water reactor unit was built by a consortium of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL), Ansaldo of Italy, and RENEL. Work on the station first began 15 years ago, but was affected by a series of delays, mostly financial in origin. The unit was officially opened in April, and connection to the national grid was achieved on July 11th. The training of Romanian operators is continuing, in preparation for a hand-over by the Canadian-Italian management at the end of next June. AECL has said it is willing to continue to provide technical support after that point, if required. Unit 1 is currently operating at full power, helping to cover base-load winter demand - the power required round-the-clock, day-by-day. Next year Romania will start repaying loans for Cernavoda-1 of about US$ 400 million to the Export Development Corporation of Canada and the Medio Credito Centrale of Italy. RENEL is now trying hard to arrange the financing for completion of the second unit at the site. Three other blocks at the station are also yet to be fully completed. The utility is aiming to complete unit 2 in 2001, requiring an estimated capital cost of US$ 750 million. Completion is scheduled for a maximum 56 months after the financing is in place. Source: Romanian Nuclear Energy Association (AREN) Editor / contact: Jack Ashton copy; 1996 NucNet, nucnet@atagbe.ch This material may be freely reproduced but NucNet must be quoted as the source. NucNet Central Office, P.O. Box 5032, CH-3001 Berne, Switzerland. Fax +41-31-382-4466, phone+41-31-320-6111 -- Jeremy Whitlock cz725@freenet.carleton.ca Visit "The Canadian Nuclear FAQ" at http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cz725/Return to Top
Neil Cordwell wrote: > How much land is required for a 1200MW nuclear site (please include > waste processing, mining of uranium or plutonium, storing of waste > products, etc.) A large uranium mine is going to have a surface installation that covers a sq km or two. The processing plant will be of similar size. Nobody mines plutonium as it is not found in significant quantities in nature. Keep in mind the relatively small amounts of uranium required for running a nuclear plant. The fuel truck shows up at Darlington station (which has four reactors in the 1000MWe range) about once a month. The exclusion zone around the Bruce site, both A and B (which has 8 reactors each about 1000MWe, plus the Ontario Hydro heavy water plant) is a few sq km, probably less than 10. This area also includes the switching yards plus all the support buildings, the employee parking lot, etc. The site has a lot of trees, although they are mostly planted beside access roads as wind breaks, as opposed to being wild trees. Waste is currently stored on site at nuclear power stations, and will be stored there for at least another 20 years. The Chalk River Nuclear Laboratories (which do research for commercial power plus produce a significant fraction of the medical isotopes of the world, plus do research that is not directly connected to nuclear power) have a site that is a few sq km plus an exclusion zone of about 10 km in radius. This zone is a protection for both the public and the site, as there are many proprietary things going on at the labs. This area is also used for various experiments, including the disposal of the reactor vessel of a decommissioned nuclear station which is currently being monitored. The exclusion zone is basically wilderness with one access road down the middle. > It might be interesting to think what will happen when the present day > nuclear power stations need decommisioning. What are we going to do with > all the nice hot waste? Disposal of high level waste is a tractacable engineering problem. Basically you identify the correct kind of rock, you drill a hole about 1km deep using special drilling methods that don't crack the rocks, you put the waste in special cannisters at the bottom of this hole, you fill the hole with clay that water moves through only very slowly. This is massive over-kill for the problem, but the first requirement of waste disposal is that it not provide a burden for future generations. The 1km depth is partly due to how deep it needs to be not to be disturbed by glaciation if a new ice age were to occur. The disposal site will have a surface requirement of one or two sq km, just enough to give access to various vehicles, put a support building or two, maybe a caretaker's building, and a parking lot. So, the entire nuclear industry in Ontario uses in the range of 100 to 200 sq km, and a significant portion of that is in a reserve of nearly pristine woodland. -- Standard disclaimers apply. I don't buy from people who advertise by e-mail. I don't buy from their ISPs. Dan EvensReturn to Top
David Lloyd-Jones (dlj@inforamp.net) wrote: : But you didn't quote WHO or CDC. I should warn other here not to debate dlj on the basis of popular sources. Andrew Taylor has already repeated provided references to classic textbooks of malariology that refute all of dlj's uninformed and propangadistic claims. By permitting dlj to shift the discussion from malariology texts to popular sources you are doing him a favor. This thread is cross-posted to sci.environment and if dlj wants to play here he should learn how to support his statements with references to the scientific literature.Return to Top
The De Lang Woodland Conference Sustainable Development: Managing the Transition March 3-5, 1997 Rice University, Houston, Texas World population is expected to double in the next 50 years, creating new demand for food, shelter and energy. Meanwhile, natural resources are being depleted at an alarming rate, and pollution continues to threaten the health and welfare of the world's population as more nations become industrialized. To ensure the needs of future generations, solutions must be developed and implemented immediately to manage the transition to sustainable development. Meeting these important economic, ecological and social challenges of the 21st Century will be the theme of the 1997 De Long Woodlands Conference on "Sustainable Development: Managing the Transition, March 3-5 at Rice University in Houston, Texas. Internationally renown leaders from business, science, technology, academia, government and social science will address a broad range of issues related to the concept of sustainable development during the three day conference. Audience members will be encouraged to participate in the question and answer sessions, as well as the panel discussion on the afternoon of the third day. The conference is organized by the Energy and Environmental Systems Institute (EESI) of Rice University and the Center for Global Commons at Houston Advanced Research Center (HARC) in the Woodlands, in partnership with the National Academy of Sciences and the James A Baker III Institute of Public Policy at Rice University. For more information, please contact Judy Howell at EESI - (713) 373-5674 or e-mail jmhowell@rice.edu. The Institute's web page address is http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~eesiReturn to Top
961213 GARDEN STATE ENVIRONEWS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * SAVE TORNE MOUNTAIN * ATLANTIC CITY BOARDWALK PROTEST * STARTING UP: HANDBOOK FOR NEW ORGANIZATIONS * AMERICANS FOR OUR HERITAGE & RECREATION * EPA 800 # FOR COMMENTS ON HEALTH STANDARDS * NEW CORPORATE WATCHDOG WEB SITE! * ENVIRO-NEWSBRIEF 961212 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SAVE TORNE MOUNTAIN The Ramapo Torne is a prominent feature of the Ramapo Pass, the "gateway" to New York, highly visible from both the New York State Thruway and Route 17. The Torne is a favorite of local hikers, offering impressive views to the south and west. It is believed to have been used as a strategic lookout point for Washington's Troops stationed below at Camp Ramapough. The lower levels of the Torne include several Native American rock shelters. The Torne and the Valley to the south of it are important wildlife habitat, rich in herptofauna and bird life, including threatened species. The Torne Brook is over a branch of the Ramapo Aquifer, which provides water for Rockland County, New York and communities in Bergen County, New Jersey, and is the only known Brook Trout spawning stream in Rockland County. Much of the Torne and part of the Torne Valley lie within Harriman State Park, but private and local government holdings jut deeply into the Park, surrounded on three sides by park land. This greatly magnifies the impact of any development there on existing park lands. While the rocky summit of the Torne lies within the park, the terraces descending towards the Ramapo River, an important element of the scenic vista from the major highways, are not protected. These private lands also isolate the Torne from the most attractive and direct hiking approaches from the southwest. Part of the Valley is owned by local governments and utilities; the balance of the land (Torne and Valley) has long been held by the Ramapo Land Company, which is now interested in selling off its holdings. Projects which have been considered for the Torne and Valley include quarrying and asphalt recycling. In addition, the Valley's relatively isolated location in an increasingly built up area has made it attractive to local authorities as a site for various utility and waste processing projects. For many reasons - environmental, recreational, historical, aesthetic - this land should be protected from development and incorporated into Harriman State Park. If we do not act now, the opportunity to do so will be lost. Contacts: Geoff Welch, PO Box 1217, Hillburn, NY 10931 (914) 753-5634 Jill Hamell, 166 Speer Ave., Apt. 3, Clifton, Nj 07013 (201) 614-l 888 The following groups are supporting this initiative: New York - New Jersey Trail Conference ** Highlands Coalition ** Appalachian Mountain Club, New York- North Jersey Chapter ** Ramapo Mountain Indian Tribal Council ** Rockland County Conservation Association ** Trout Unlimited, Ray Bergman Chapter ** Sierra Club, Rockland Committee ** Citizens' Environmental Coalition of New York State ** Ramapo River Committee ** Rockland County Environmental Management Council ** Orange Environment ** Metropolitan Canoe & Kayak Club "Torne" appears to be a highly local word, possibly of Dutch origin, for a rocky, craggy hill or mountain top. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ATLANTIC CITY BOARDWALK PROTEST Date: 11 Dec 1996 From: Rainforest ReliefReturn to TopS T O P A T L A N T I C C I T Y ' S R A I N F O R E S T W O O D B O A R D W A L K PROTEST ON THE ATLANTIC CITY BOARDWALK in front of Convention Hall SAT., DECEMBER 14th 1:00 PM -- 3:00 PM Atlantic City + THE WOOD USED BY ATLANTIC CITY FOR THE BOARDWALK WAS LOGGED FROM THE AMAZON RAINFORESTS OF BRAZIL AND GUYANA! + AT LEAST EIGHT INDIGENOUS AMAZON TRIBES HAVE HAD MEMBERS KILLED BY LOGGERS! + LOGGERS IN BRAZIL INVADE INDIGENOUS LANDS AND PARKS & PRESERVES TO CUT WOOD, PUNCHING ROADS INTO PRISTINE RAINFORESTS AND KILLING INDIANS ALONG THE WAY! + RECYCLED PLASTIC LUMBER HAS BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY FOR BOARDWALKS ELSEWHERE. ATLANTIC CITY REFUSES TO USE IT FOR ITS BOARDWALK, EVEN THOUGH IT LASTS LONGER, WON'T SPLINTER OR ROT AND IS GUARANTEED FOR 50 YEARS! + LOGGING IN RAINFORESTS TYPICALLY DESTROYS 13 TREES FOR EVERY ONE CUT - UP TO HALF AN ACRE CAN BE DAMAGED FOR ONE TREE! + LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF LOGGING IN THE TROPICS IS SUSTAINABLE, ACCORDING TO A STUDY BY THE INTERNATIONAL TROPICAL TIMBER ORGANIZATION! WE'VE STOPPED OCEAN CITY, NJ FROM USING RAINFOREST WOOD -- LET'S SHOW ATLANTIC CITY THAT REPAIRING THE BOARDWALK DOESN'T INCLUDE DESTROYING THE AMAZON! FOR MORE INFORMATION OR TO HELP WITH THE DEMONSTRATION CALL: RAINFOREST RELIEF AT 718/832-6775 OR 908/842-6030 OR STOCKTON SAVE AT 609/652-4278 TAKE ANY BUS TO ATLANTIC CITY AND GET REIMBURSED INSIDE THE CASINO Please Copy, Circulate and Post this notice as much as possible. Thanks! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: STARTING UP: HANDBOOK FOR NEW ORGANIZATIONS Date: 12 Dec 1996 From: River Network ~~~~ NEW FROM RIVER NETWORK ~~~~~ "Starting Up: A Handbook for New River and Watershed Organizations" Whether you are thinking seriously about starting a new organization to conserve your local river or you are already involved in a river or watershed organization, Starting Up provides a treasure of information about how to run a successful organization. Based on the invaluable experience of dozens of leaders in the river and watershed conservation movement, this handbook lays out the critical moves every newly forming organization needs to make to thrive and grow. Over 350 pages of valuable information, including: choosing a name, developing your mission statement, recruiting your board of directors, fundraising, creating a budget, working with the media, producing a newsletter, and much more!!! 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Email us at: rivernet@igc.org phone us at: 503-241-3506 Check out our web site at: http://www.rivernetwork.org/~rivernet :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: AMERICANS FOR OUR HERITAGE & RECREATION Dear Conservation and Recreation Leader: Over the past six months, an unprecedented coalition representing a wide range of interests including recreationists, conservationists, advocates for the cities and for the wilderness, the outdoor industry, grassroots activists, state agencies, and national organizations, have come together under the banner of Americans for our Heritage and Recreation (AHR). We are seeking to restore and expand the commitment of the federal government, in partnership with state and local governments and private organizations, to fund conservation of our natural and cultural heritage and to provide recreational opportunities for all Americans. To launch this effort, we are inviting you to participate in a national strategy summit of leaders in conservation and recreation, January 5-1, 1997, at Asilomar Conference Grounds in Monterey, California. We are facing a serious problem: Our nation's commitment to funding for conservation and recreation has fallen sharply. In each of the past two years, only about 15% of the $900 million authorized annually for the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) has been spent. The LWCF State Assistance Program, which provides matching grants to state and local parks for conservation and recreation, has not been funded at all for the past two years. The LWCF was created with a promise: To take income from the use of a natural resource (off-shore oil and gas leases) and use it to support the conservation of parks, forests, clean water, and open spaces, and to guarantee outdoor recreation opportunities for all Americans. Our nation has reneged on that promise. To restore the promise, we need your help. Americans for our Heritage and Recreation has been founded with three goals: 1) To build a broad-based, enduring, and effective constituency of Americans who care about outdoor recreation and conservation of our natural and cultural resources; 2) To provide funding from the LWCF and other sources to meet the need for conservation and recreation at the local, state, regional, and national levels; and 3) To create new programs, policies, and partnerships among federal, state and local governments, and private organizations, to meet the conservation and recreation needs of the 21st century. In the few short months since our initial organizing meeting, we have found widespread grassroots enthusiasm around the country for a revitalized effort to restore federal funding for land and water conservation, and deep concern and even anger that the dedicated funding promised by the enactment of LWCF has been lost. Americans for our Heritage and Recreation is dedicated to working with people across the country to build a powerful and effective force for restoring funding for conservation and recreation. We are writing because we need your input and participation to shape our campaign and to ensure that the interests of people throughout the United States are included. Please return the enclosed form (directly to Asilomar) to register for the summit. At the same time, return the self-addressed postcard to Ted Hilliard in Sacramento. Ted is the AHR conference coordinator and can be reached with conference questions at 916-653-4585. A generous grant from REI is helping to keep conference costs to a minimum, and limited scholarship assistance is available. Whether or not your schedule allows you to attend, please let us know how you would like to be involved in the ongoing effort. For more information on the AHR campaign, please call one of us. We hope to see you at the summit, and look forward to working with you to restore the promise of the Land and Water Conservation Fund! Sincerely, Donald W. Murphy, Director California Department of Parks and Recreation Co-Chair 916-653-1570 Lis Boussard The Wilderness Society Co-Chair 202-429-2676 Stephen Blackmer Appalachian Mountain Club Co-Chair 603-783-3348 Americans for our Heritage & Recreation 1416 9th St., Room 1405 Sacremento CA 95814 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: EPA 800 # FOR COMMENTS ON HEALTH STANDARDS Date: Dec 11, 1996 From: ElaineE684@aol.com Folks, Got the info below today in e-mail. -Elaine -=*=- The EPA has set up an 800 number to take comments from the public on the proposed updates to the Clean Air Act health standards for ozone and particulate matter. The number is 1-888-TellEPA (1-888-835-5372). Please spread the word to various environmental email networks! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: NEW CORPORATE WATCHDOG WEB SITE! Date: Dec 12, 1996 From: EcoNet Environmental Justice Desk 12/10/96 CORPORATE WATCH WEB SITE ONLINE http://www.corpwatch.org A new watchdog website dedicated to monitoring the activities of transnational corporations went online today. Corporate Watch is designed to provide journalists, activists and policy makers around the world with up to date information and analysis on social, ecological and economic impacts of transnational corporations. "We intend to be an online clearinghouse for information on these companies," explained Corporate Watch editorial board member Antonio Diaz. The site will also serve as a mini-online magazine that runs features on related issues. "One of the reasons we've created Corporate Watch is to keep an eye on all those Fortune 500 companies that are jumping on the World Wide Web bandwagon," remarked the site's editorial coordinator, Joshua Karliner. "That's why our first Feature focuses on the corporatization of the Internet itself." Entitled "The Battle for the Future of the Internet," the Feature includes commentary from Hot Wired executive producer Gary Wolf, media and technology critic Jerry Mander, NetAction director Audrie Krause, and Brazilian Internet activist Carlos Afonso. The Corporate Watch site also includes: *An eight part nuts and bolts manual on how to research transnational corporations. *Monthly "greenwash" awards given out by Corporate Watch and the environmental group Greenpeace to the most outrageous corporate "environmental" advertisements. *An Image Gallery, with a permanent environmental art collection and rotating monthly exhibits. This month's exhibit features images from Bhopal, India, commemorating the 12th Anniversary of the Union Carbide Gas Disaster. *In-depth analysis on corporate globalization, including reports from the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington DC and the New Delhi, India-based Public Interest Research Group. *News from various sources, including Multinational Monitor, the Malaysia-based Third World Network, Ecuador-based Oil Watch. *Direct Links to the Corporate Watch Affiliate Group--a collection of organizations which provide in depth research services. *Links to hundreds of other websites with analysis of or information produced by transnational corporations. Corporate Watch is a joint project of TRAC--the Transnational Resource and Action Center and IGC--the Institute for global communications. contact: Joshua Karliner tel: 415-561-6567 fax: 415-561-6493 email: trac@igc.org web: http://www.corpwatch.org ** Please cross-post and redistribute ** - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - George Gundrey ggundrey@igc.apc.org 415-285-4604 Internet Publishing * Networking * Training * Project Management - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ENVIRO-NEWSBRIEF 961212 The following is a daily update summarizing news of interest to EPA staff. It includes information from current news sources: newspapers, newsletters, and other publications. For more information, contact the EPA Headquarters Library at (202) 260- 5921, or e-mail LIBRARY-HQ. **Viewpoints expressed in the following summaries do not necessarily reflect EPA policy** ** AIR POLLUTION ** OTAG Seeks Assurance That EPA Proposal Will Reflect Group's Ozone Transport Work. Daily Environment Report, December 12, 1996, ppAA-1-2. The Ozone Transport Assessment Group (OTAG) wants the EPA to base the upcoming proposal establishing emission reduction levels for combating ozone transport in the Northeast on their findings. Mary Gade, OTAG Chair, wrote Mary Nichols, EPA's Assistant Administrator, stating that the group's members "are very concerned that any action on the part of the EPA without adequate consideration and analyses of the technical work being conducted in OTAG could undermine the whole OTAG effort." The issue began after a November 8 letter from Nichols to Gade announced EPA's intent to begin issuing calls for state implementation plans that will set the emissions reduction needed to deal with the transport of ozone from the Midwest and other areas to the Northeast. Nichols says the EPA plans to publish an advance notice of proposed rule-making in December that will "describe the schedule, intent, and rationale for the SIP call, but will not go into detail about the specific content." The letter worried industry groups and OTAG members that EPA was going ahead with its proposal without taking OTAG's findings into consideration. The OTAG panel contains representatives from 37 Midwest and Eastern states. They are expected to develop modeling data for EPA that covers the Eastern half of the US. The group is also expected to propose an emissions trading system for Nox. "As you know, the states and other stakeholders have worked very hard to complete all of the technical analyses necessary to determine the impacts of ozone transport as well as possible solutions for mitigation," said Gade in her letter to Nichols. She added that the group was "committed" to completing the remaining technical analyses by February. "It is my understanding that the EPA will base its decisions on the modeling and technical analyses performed in OTAG and that no final determinations will be made until after OTAG has had an opportunity to fully complete its deliberations," wrote Gade. ** INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY ** Compendium of Cleanup Projects Seeks to Facilitate Selection for Site Managers. Daily Environment Report, December 12, 1996, ppA- 3-4. A report entitled _Completed North American Innovative Remediation Technology Demonstration Projects_ contains information on government sponsored innovative cleanup projects. The report, released December 4 by the EPA, is designed to help site managers identify new technologies that might fit their needs. Categorized in the report are 426 full scale demonstration projects. They are arranged by media treated and by technology type. Of the projects included in the report, 259 are completed demonstrations that were performed, co-sponsored or funded through programs developed by EPA, the Departments of Energy and Defense, California and Canada. The remaining 167 are demonstrations being conducted by the Technology Transfer Division of the US Air Force Center for the Environmental Excellence. About two-thirds of the air-force demonstrations are ongoing. 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phil. Felton wrote: > > In article <32AF60A5.2C57@dynamotive.com>, billmcc >Return to Topwrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Does anyone know of any jurisdication which has in place regulations > > regarding the emission of N20 from coal fired boilers? Barring that does > > anyone know anyone that would know? > > > > thanks, > > Bill McEachern > > I don't believe there are any, it would be rather pointless since most of the > sources of N2O are from soil, oceans, estuaries etc. > > Phil. I don't believe there are any either. Some years ago there was some stack sampling from coal-fired power plants that turned up relatively high concentrations of N2O in the fluegas. As it turns out, there was a problem in the sampling where the N in the NOx converted to N2O. Upon a reinvestigation it was found that the sampling methodology was flawed and there was no appreciable N2O in the flue gas. You might try the Electric Power Research Institute (www.epri.com) home page and you might be able to make an inquiry there. I believe Peter Mueller of EPRI was the project manager for the N2O study. Dennis
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Katherine A Vancil wrote: > > I think that people should stop thinking so much about the economic > aspects of wind power and start thinking more about the environment. The > costs for both will remain high, but in the long run the degredation done > to the environment will cost us more and future generations more. Wind, > solar, fossil, nuclear...whatever the source, do it! Quit contemplating, > using present examples as a source. Well, golly. It's awfully nice to have such unbridled support for alternative energy, and wind power in particular. The problem, as I'm sure many will point out, is that while we'd all love to live in a world where problems like pollution and environmental impact are solved without worrying about money, the fact is that in a capitalist economy, large companies with the technology to solve or to at least alleviate the symptoms of such problems almost never do so out of the goodness of their collective hearts. It costs big money for large-scale power plants, regardless of the fuel source. Your enthusiasm, while encouraging, should perhaps be directed at those who guide energy policy in this country. Your representatives in Congress, as well as locally, can amplify your concerns and make for real change in the power utility bureaucracy as it stands. -- =+=++=+=+=N+I=R+V=A+N=A+n=e+t=+=R+a=w+D=a+t=a+F=o+r=R+a=w+N=e+r=v+e=s+=+=+=+=+ Joe Griego | "We're so pretty, oh so pretty, Zond Corporation | We're vaaa-cant!" Anemometry Dept. | 13000 Jameson Road | - The Sex Pistols, 1976 Tehachapi, CA 93561 | (805) 822-6835, ext. 6674 | +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=Return to Top
This may be of interest to students and faculty doing design work. You can get more details at, http://www.engineer.gvsu.edu ------------------------------SNIP---------------------------------- THE FOURTH ANNUAL PADNOS DESIGN COMPETITION COMPETITION INFORMATION AND GUIDELINES The Padnos Competition is an annual competition which recognizes innovative senior design projects in engineering which are environmentally responsible. This competition is sponsored by the Louis and Helen Padnos Foundation and by Grand Valley State University, in cooperation with the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. The intent of the competition is to be compatible with the typical senior engineering design experience which is included in every ABET accredited engineering program. To be considered, a project must have a major focus on an innovative engineering approach to solving a problem in an environmentally responsible manner. The particular environmental problem for the project must be addressed in the report. AWARD STRUCTURE A video presentation of the three winning entries is distributed to the participating institutions during the academic year following the competition. This video also recognizes all of the participating institutions. Grand Prize (1) The cash award associated with the grand prize consists of a $6,000 grant in the name of the project faculty supervisor. The funds are to be distributed as follows: Student Team - $2,000; Institution - $4,000 (use of the institution award is to include sending the winning team to the award presentation as necessary). In addition, the judging by the Padnos Competition judges constitutes the peer review for The Technology Journal of the Franklin Institute. Grand Prize entries are invited to submit a paper to this journal based on the project. Honorable Mentions (2) The cash award associated with each honorable mention consists of a $2,000 grant in the name of the project faculty supervisor. The use of this award is to include sending at lease one member of the winning team to the award presentation as necessary. POTENTIAL PROJECT TOPICS FOR SUBMISSION INCLUDE (but are not limited to) Product or Process Design for Recycling Design for Disassembly Design for Source Reduction and Waste Minimization Life Cycle Assessment Based Design Design for Energy and/or Resources Conservation JUDGING CRITERIA The contest entries shall be judged based upon: Scope of Potential Environmental Impact Originality of Design (broadly and specifically) Potential for Implementation Engineering Analysis Quality of Submission Economic Feasibility COMPETITION ENTRY REQUIREMENTS 1. Individuals or teams may enter. At least one team member must be enrolled in a senior engineering design experience. Interdisciplinary teams are welcome. 2. To be considered, the project being submitted must have been completed in the academic year immediately preceding the entry submission deadline. 3. Project submissions must be prepared in English and include: A completed Entry Cover Sheet A completed Address Information Form A written Project Report An Executive Summary of the project (approximately 1000 words) Either A video presentation (approximately 10 minutes and not more than 15 minutes) or A demonstration poster and script (poster size when displayed not exceed 36"x48") COMPETITION TIME-TABLE As this competition is designed to accommodate the various academic calendars and senior project approaches, the intent to participate form deadline is flexible. Submission of these forms is used to constitute the judging panel each year. The recommended schedule for submissions is: October 1, 1996 (flexible) - Submission of Intent to Participate Forms (Fall Term Projects) February 1, 1997 (flexible) - Submission of Intent to Participate Forms (Winter Term Projects) May 15, 1997 - Submission of Entries (extensions possible by special request) September, 1997 - Presentation of Awards at the ASME Technical Design Conference RECOMMENDED REPORT FORMAT * Clear statement of the problem being addressed * Concise summary and conclusions (approximately 10 pages) * Statement of how the Padnos Competition criteria are addressed * Appendices presenting supporting material RECENT WINNING ENTRIES Dairy Waste Management Treatment System Univ. of Tenn., Knoxville 1996 Grand Prize Winner Construction Materials from Pulp-mill Solid Residuals Seattle University 1996 Grand Prize Winner Supermilage Drivetrain Optimization Cedarville College 1996 Honorable Mention Collapsible Truck Wind Deflector Cedarville College 1995 Grand Prize Winner Pre-heating Water with Refrigerator Waste Heat Michigan State Univ. 1995 Honorable Mention Sidewall Removal Mechanism for Recycling of Tires Univ. of Victoria 1995 Honorable Mention Today's Newspaper - Tomorrow's Construction Material Montana State Univ. 1994 Grand Prize Winner Steel Removal from Radial Tires: Rubber Recycling North Dakota State Univ. 1994 Honorable Mention Optimization of the Beverage Vending Machine Michigan State Univ. 1994 Honorable Mention OTHER RECENT ENTRY TOPICS Conversion of waste materials to new products Manufacturing process re-design to avoid use of environmentally unacceptable materials Generation of energy from renewable resources New techniques for clean-up of hazardous material spills Innovative control techniques for energy conservation in heating & cooling systems Waste prevention or minimization through innovative scheduling methods Innovative techniques for soil remediation Innovative methods for waste treatment FOR MORE INFORMATION Entry forms and additional information are available via the internet or by request. The internet address for the Padnos Competition Home page is: http://engineer.gvsu.edu/pse-info/97-info.htm Information is also available from: Paul D. Plotkowski, Ph.D. Padnos Competition Coordinator 301 W. Fulton Grand Rapids, MI 49504 Padnos School of Engineering Telephone (616) 771-6750 Grand Valley State University FAX (616) 771-6642 E-Mail Internet: plotkowp@gvsu.edu ------------------------------SNIP----------------------------------Return to Top
Reply-To: Moderator of conference "mlist.ecix1"Return to TopFrom: Lelani Arris Subject: ECO GENEVA (AGBM5) #3 Dec 13 96(38K) ECO NEWSLETTER AGBM5 - GENEVA NGO NEWSLETTER AGBM5 December 13, 1996 ISSUE #3 TABLE OF CONTENTS .1 Canada Misses Cuts .2 Looking for a Safe Landing? .3 Who Said Africa Was Voiceless? .4 Australia: the Truth Laid BARE .5 NGO Update .6 The Rise of Per Capita Emissions .7 The Tasks Ahead .8 US Public Backs Agreement .9 Wednesday Morning .10 EU Protocol Presentation .11 Thursday Morning .12 Japan: How to Make Friends .13 Leman .14 Contacts .15 Credits Eco has been published by Non-Governmental Environmental Groups at major international conferences since the Stockholm Environment Conference in 1972. This issue is produced co-operatively by CAN groups attending the climate negotiations in Geneva, December 1996. ****************************************************************** Canada Misses Cuts Provincial and federal energy and environment ministers met in Toronto December 12 to assess progress on meeting Canada's international climate change commitments. The result: few new measures to reduce Canada's skyrocketing greenhouse gas emissions. Canada's 1995 greenhouse gas emissions are 9.5% above 1990 levels. Per capita emissions of greenhouse gases have risen from 20 tonnes per capita in 1990 to 21 tonnes per capita in 1995. Greenhouse gas emissions per dollar of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) have increased from 809 kilograms per thousand dollars in 1994 to 816 kg/$1,000 in 1995. Assessing progress on Canada's climate program was the only agenda item December 12. A consortium of consultants was hired to prepare an evaluation of Canada's progress. The consultants attribute emissions growth between 1990 and 1995 to the oil and gas industry. Between 1990 and 1995, production increased by 35%, while exports of natural gas to the United States doubled. Canada's National Action Program on Climate Change (NAPCC) is primarily a voluntary program. The Voluntary Challenge and Registry is so poorly structured that the consultants told governments that current reporting requirements of governments and industry made it almost impossible to assess progress. According to the consultants, "the difficulty in reviewing the program is compounded by the fact that the jurisdictional reports of actions are both inconsistent and incomplete. There is no standardized format, few quantified measures, little budgetary information, and a uniform propensity to report activity rather than intended results." Despite the inadequacy of the Voluntary Challenge and Registry, federal energy forecasters are crediting voluntary action with reducing Canada's projected gap in 2000. According to current projections, Canada's greenhouse gas emissions are now expected to be 8% above 1990 levels by the year 2000, rather than 13% as previously expected. Whether 8% or 13%, a gap is a gap. The consultants conclude that "barring a major economic downturn, a sudden large rise in fuel prices, or immediate and aggressive action by senior levels of government, Canada will not achieve its short-term stabilization commitment." In addition, forecasts project greenhouse gas emissions will be 34% higher than 1990 in 2020. The dismal assessment required a strong response from ministers. Instead, Canadians were offered a modest federal commitment to purchase Green Power ($600,000 of federal money to buy electricity from renewables), some modest support for public education, and a program by fossil fuel companies to invest in methane capture landfill offsets. While the programs are headed in the right direction, they will not reduce emissions significantly in the short term and will not offset government cutbacks to energy efficiency programs. According to the consultants' report, the federal government contributed over 80% of the over $64 million all Canadian governments spent on efficiency and alternative energy in 1996-97 (down from $80 million the year before). As a result of already-announced budget cuts, the federal contribution is to decline from $62.9 million in 1995-96 to $48.8 million in 1997-98 (Natural Resources Canada 1995). Provincial governments also have cut their efficiency programs, with Alberta and Newfoundland completely eliminating their efficiency departments. ****************************************************************** Looking for a Safe Landing by Dan Lashof, NRDC The global climate/energy system is in increasing danger of a crash landing with each year that industrialized countries delay taking action to curb greenhouse gas emissions according to a new analysis presented to climate negotiators Wednesday. Rob Swart and Eric Kreileman of the Dutch Environmental Research Institute (RIVM) demonstrated a new tool that lets policymakers find "safe landing corridors" between environmental and economic risks based on a range of choices regarding maximum rates and levels of climate change on the one hand and maximum feasible rates of emission reductions on the other. For mid-case assumptions there would be no safe landing corridor by 2010 if emissions continue along a business-as-usual (IPCC IS92a) path. To stay near the middle of a safe emissions corridor, global greenhouse gas emissions in 2010 need to be limited to approximately 1990 levels, implying a substantial reduction in emissions from industrialized countries (designated in Annex I of the climate convention). The dangers of straying close to the upper limit of the safe emissions corridor were graphically illustrated by considering the options available depending on the level of emissions within the corridor in 2010 (see figure). If emissions are near the top of the corridor in 2010 the possible paths to a safe landing will be extremely limited and perhaps nonexistent if it is determined at that time that lower thresholds are required to prevent dangerous climate change. The conclusions from this analysis differ sharply from the results of a widely cited model run by US researcher Jae Edmonds and colleagues, which suggested that the economically optimal climate strategy was to delay significant emission reductions for several decades before making rapid emission reductions during the middle of the next century. Discussion of these conflicting results revealed several key differences: first, the "acceptable" level of global warming is substantially higher in the Edmonds analysis; second, the Edmonds result depends on an assumption that technology for reducing greenhouse gas emissions will become cheaper as a function of time, rather than as a function of market experience; finally, while the RIVM analysis assumes that emissions can't be reduced by more than 2% per year without imposing excessive economic risks, the Edmonds model does not constrain the feasible rate of emission reductions, and heavily discounts any costs incurred by future generations in determining the cheapest course for the present. ****************************************************************** Who said Africa was Voiceless ? by Peter Otinda and Djimingue Nanasta, Climate Network Africa Four days after the start of AGBM5, the presence of African delegates was hardly felt, despite an estimated 30 African countries in attendance and the twist the negotiations have taken - not even one-third of the countries have made interventions. Then, in an 11th hour rush, they all want to speak. They even now have a chair for their group. Great, better late than never! African delegates have realised at long last that they have come to Geneva to give momentum to the convention process and help come out with a protocol. A continued silence from Africa would have given the impression of a group banking (!) on others to negotiate for them. Remember that every second you spend in Geneva takes you closer to the end of the current sessions of the subsidiary bodies and closer to Kyoto. How happy would Africa be to take nothing home! ****************************************************************** Australia: the Truth Laid BARE by Kirsty Hamilton, Greenpeace Int. and Louise Coumeau, Sierra Club Canada Australia's paper-thin attempts to justify the ongoing survival of its coal industry are becoming increasingly transparent. Perhaps Brain Fisher did not realise when he presented the MEGABARE model on Wednesday that back home, less than a week before, his Minister was having increasing difficulty in the Senate justifying the validity of the model. Australian Hansard on December 5th reveals: "Senator KERNOT [to the Federal Minister of Resources]... Minister, yesterday you said that the Megabare model had been refereed domestically by the Centre for Policy Studies at Monash University. Minister, what do you say then to comments by the centre's professor, Peter Dixon, that he wishes ABARE would stop quoting him as a referee for this interpretation because he is not, that the government's interpretation of the data is 'crazy' and that the misuse of the model is 'extraordinary'? "Minister you also told the Senate that the model was internationally accepted. Is it not a fact that the model never participated in any rigorous international study before your government based its policy on it and that it still has not undergone such study and has never been published in a refereed journal?" It is hoped that Canada, which rumour has it is thinking of entering into some trading with Australia to purchase the model, will not put its Minister of Natural Resources into such a deeply embarrassing position. Monash University, Melbourne and Mr Wigle were the only peer reviewers that Minister Parer was able to name. Greenpeace's independent peer review of Megabare early this year by Dr Geoff Bertram, a Senior Lecturer in Economics at Victoria University, New Zealand, described the model as displaying "extreme technological pessimism": with serious flaws in assumptions about technological change and in the welfare impacts on developing countries from action by Annex I parties. Finally, delegates might be interested to find out that the Australian Senate, the Upper House of the Australian Parliament, passed an urgency resolution criticising "the [Federal] Coalition Government's failure to seriously address the threat of global warming and its consequences." ****************************************************************** NGO Update The following environmental NGOs present at the AGBM were not included in our list on Wednesday Barbara Limprecht Wuppert. Inst. Sebastien Oberthur Ecologic Hubert Meena CEEST Kelly Sims Ozone Action Sascha Muller-Kraenner DNR Mitsutoshi Hayakawa CASA Mie Asaoka CASA Correction: These organisations are not members of CAN Tadashi Ogura Japan Tropical Forest Action Network Tadashi Okimura GW Res. Group/PF 2001 ****************************************************************** The Rise of Per Capita Emissions by Bill Hare, Greenpeace Originally proposed in the climate negotiations as a measure of equity (or inequity) by the poorest nations, per capita emission limits have been seized upon by some of the richest as a means of minimizing their actions. Few would argue with the basic justice of the idea that by the end of next century we should all be allowed roughly the same level of carbon emissions per capita (even if it is zero). Just what sense, however, does it make now to start setting emission reduction targets on the basis of relative per capita emission levels? Are per capita emission targets really the magic bullet that is going to bring a blinding flash of clarity to these negotiations? Whilst in the long term the world should be aiming for similar per capita emissions for everyone, the fact is that per capita targets for industrialized countries are generally put forward to avoid real action to reduce emissions by those with the lowest number. Japan and France have proposed per capita emission limits as devices to ensure that they do the least of any of the industrialized countries. Japan's proposal would allow the emissions of countries such as itself and France to increase. Is this really "fair"? Implied in France's proposal is more than doubling of COP2 concentrations and a temperature increase ultimately of over 3 degrees C, well above the 2 degree maximum set in the EU Council of June 1996. If France's proposal is based on a high notion of global equity then perhaps it should offer to open its border to future climate refugees from the small island states and countries in low-lying coastal areas such as Bangladesh, who will surely, if the climate scientists are right, be in need of real French egalite next century. Neither country appears to be in favour of overall emission reductions - just ask any MITI official or someone from the French Economic Ministry and they will tell you all about the uncertainties. Those with the highest emissions per capita - the US, Canada, and Australia, for example - completely eschew per capita limits, arguing respectively for a one size fits all emission target, a lower one than the rest, or none at all. But all oppose limits set on a per capita basis. Ultimately, however, these countries will have to make larger relative reductions than those whose economies are less carbon intensive. Absolute, flat rate emission reductions have the virtue that they will lower per capita emissions - and by a larger absolute amount in the US than in Japan or France. The first emission reduction limits agreed in Kyoto will surely provide the impetus for Parties to seriously negotiate a fair and equitable differentiation for the second stage emission reductions. There are just 16 negotiating days left to Kyoto. It is quite unrealistic to expect that a per capita differentiation formula or anything other than a flat rate target can be negotiated in that time. ****************************************************************** The Tasks Ahead Homework Assignments for the New Year (to be graded at AGBM 6) Japan: You show promise, but you must work harder to complete your protocol project. It's nice of you to offer your house for our graduation ceremony, but we need a road map of how to get there. Stop your family squabbling on different agency positions - it's frightening the other children. You, of all parties, must serve as a role model for your peers. EU: Your framework protocol to the framework convention is still too much of a framework. We suggest re-studying the AOSIS protocol and adding some meat to your proposals. Your X-amples are confusing your classmates; try to be more clear when you speak. United States: You showed great promise at COP2, but your behavior in class is once again becoming a problem. You must concentrate on your studies, particularly on ecological indicators and the precautionary principle, and come to the next class prepared to make a real contribution. Your efforts to "borrow" your classmates' personal property are troubling; drop them. Rather than worrying about others' graduation, you should focus on your own performance; you're in serious danger of being held back. Australia: Stop bringing Megabear to class; he's rude and disruptive. Try to get along better with your classmates; stop claiming you're the one most burdened by class assignments. Canada: You're starting to pick up bad habits from the student who sits just South of you. Work on setting targets for yourself. Your understanding of demography is deficient; if it doesn't improve, you should stop raising it in class. France: You seem to have problems getting along with the rest of your team, and it's affecting your overall performance. Your interest in the subject of per capita emissions is laudable; but you have to learn how to apply it in the real world. Norway: You have a good grasp of algebra, but you have problems completing your papers. Without more specifics, your classmates will have a hard time evaluating your ideas. Saudi Arabia: Your concern about the survival of your small island classmates is touching, but you need to show more support for their efforts to improve their chances. Your understanding of environmental studies is still weak; maybe you could join the United States in a refresher course. Brazil: You're to be congratulated for your thoughtful comments in class. You have a good grasp of world problems, and your willingness to collaboratively work on long-term solutions is admirable. But don't lose sight of the task at hand: when we get to graduation, we want to be sure we have no regrets. AOSIS: Your ideas are very good, and your willingness to stand up to the class bullies is admirable. Don't be discouraged that most of your classmates can't keep up; their understanding of the situation will hopefully improve by the next term. ****************************************************************** US Public Backs Agreement Last month, a US public opinion poll of 1,200 registered voters was sponsored by the Sustainable Energy Coalition. The survey asked people's views about the seriousness of the threat of global climate change caused by emission from fossil fuel combustion and whether the United States should sign an international agreement to set mandatory limits on greenhouse gas emissions. When asked how serious a threat they considered global climate change, over seventy percent (71%) saw global climate change as either a serious or somewhat serious threat. Despite an aggressive 1996 public relations campaign by industry groups challenging whether the combustion of fossil fuels can lead to global climate change, public concern about the issue has not diminished. In response to an identical question in a December 1995 survey, 71% of voters stated that they viewed climate change to be a serious threat - a percentage virtually unchanged by November 1996. Concern about global climate change extends across all political party affiliations, and of those who voted for President Clinton last month, 80% agreed that global climate change was either somewhat or very serious. The Administration should keep this in mind as it assesses how aggressively it wants to address climate change mitigation. Furthermore, of those who voted for a Republican candidate in the recent Congressional elections, 54% consider climate change a threat and only 16% felt it was no threat at all. The Republican led Congress should consider this when called upon to approve any international treaty to limit greenhouse gas emissions and subsequent implementing legislation. Respondents were also told that the United States is considering signing an international agreement by the end of 1997 that would set a legally binding deadline for reducing emissions of a specified amount of greenhouse gases. After being presented with some of the arguments in favor of, and opposed to, signing such an agreement, voters were asked whether or not they favored the United States signing such an agreement. Fifty-five percent of those offering an opinion were in favor of signing a treaty. The level of support for signing a climate treaty rose to 66% among those who voted for President Clinton in the last election and of those citing the environment as a factor influencing that vote for the President, 71% favor signing an agreement. ****************************************************************** Wednesday Morning The plenary session on advancing commitments under Article 4.1 allowed us, once more, to endure interventions that have become very familiar over the past year. Chairman Estrada had hoped delegates could tackle both 4.1 and discussion on a protocol or another legal instrument in the morning session but long empty talks (and an even later than usual start of the session) frustrated achievement of this goal. Costa Rica, on behalf of the G-77 and China, led off by reiterating the long-held views that implementation of Article 4.1 must be considered in an integrated manner with the articles on financial assistance and technology transfer, and that joint implementation is not related to 4.1. Ireland, on behalf of the EU, followed by outlining what it sees as the three main elements of Article 4.1: taking advantage of opportuntities to develop, transfer and promote diffusion of climate-friendly technologies; pursuing AIJ; and seeking consistency of multilateral development bank and private sector financing activities with the objectives of the climate treaty. Norway supported the G-77 position that the financial assistance and technology transfer responsibilities of developed countries must be adhered to if implementation of developing country commitments under 4.1 is to be advanced. Only after these requirements on developed countries are met can AIJ be made part of the global regime, Norway said. Later in the morning, Nigeria enthusiastically welcomed the Norwegian position, saying "with more comments like Norway's, we should be able to dance the Macarena in Kyoto!" The Marshall Islands continued its pattern of candid statements by noting that its uncompromising opposition to South Pacific nuclear testing by a certain European party had resulted in delay in that party's provision of financial assistance for a renewable energy project. The GEF's funding is "only a drop in the ocean" in meeting the financial needs of developing countries under the treaty, he said. India pointed out that the emissions inventory/national action plan process now underway in many developing countries is already providing impetus to a variety of activities outlined in 4.1, and that pursuit of "no-regrets" measures is well underway. India bemoaned the lack of action on technology transfer, and called for early constitution of technology assessment panels. The United States responded that governments don't take the lead in promoting technology diffusion, the private sector does; government interference with the market is "counterproductive and unacceptable." The US outlined a "range of possibilities" for advancing implementation of developing country commitments, starting with independent reviews of national reports and assistance in pursuing no-regrets measures. Guidelines could be developed for revising the Convention annexes; as countries develop, they must "graduate" to assume new responsibilities commensurate with this development. The US noted that the treaty calls for such a review by December, 1998. Finally, there could be a new mandate in Kyoto to launch negotiations on binding emissions limits on all parties; the timing and level of such commitments could vary based on factors including the level of development. The Chairman felt compelled to point out that the AGBM mandate does not include the review of the treaty annexes called for in Article 4.2(f), and that debate on this topic would interfere with completing that mandate on time. He stated he would not allow further discussion of this matter in the AGBM. At the end of the morning session, the US tried to regroup, making a wholly unsubstantiated claim that such a review could be linked to implementation of 4.1, and stating that a graduation mechanism "should have a central role" in the Kyoto protocol. Russia stated that countries with economies in transition are "making a greater contribution than any other group of countries," as their emissions have fallen substantially since 1990. For these countries, he said an appropriate commitment would be to ensure their emissions in 2010 don't exceed 1990 levels. In a very thoughtful intervention, Brazil said that implementation of 4.1 is a "comprehensive, evolutionary process" that will "establish the necessary framework for global involvement in the effort to achieve the ultimate objective" of the treaty. It will be important to pursue discussions on the future evolution of the Convention "at a later stage." Thailand closed the discussion of 4.1 by noting that most Annex I countries haven't fulfilled their existing commitments under the treaty, yet they are trying to impose new requirements on developing countries. Commentary: The widespread suspicion that Annex I parties are trying to renogotiate the terms of the Berlin Mandate has been strengthened at this AGBM session, especially by the efforts of the US to inject "graduation requirements" and follow-on negotiations of binding developing country commitments into the debate. While the US may see this as a clever negotiating tactic to increase its leverage on other issues, it risks creating a deep North-South schism that will frustrate collaborative efforts to slow the rate of emissions growth in developing countries - a major element of meeting the Convention's ultimate objective. If the US continues with this reckless brinkmanship at AGBM 6, the prospects for negotiation of a meaningful strengthening of the climate treaty will be jeopardized. ****************************************************************** EU Protocol Presentation On Wednesday afternoon, the EU conducted a workshop on their proposal for a protocol. It consisted of question-and answer session chaired by Ireland's Donal Enright, supported by Cornelia Quennet-Thielen from Germany and Bert Metz of the Netherlands. The main questions were as follows: Q: On the review mechanism: why would the first review take place "at the latest on 31.12.2002"? A: Because if the Protocol gets adopted in December '97, it will take at least another two years before it enters into force, meaning that the first Conference of Parties would be in late 1999 or 2000. The IPCC third assessment report is also in 2000. Q: What exactly is Annex X? A: It is intended to include all Annex I countries: currently all OECD members and economies in transition. Since the establishment of the concept of Annex 1 in 1990 more countries have joined the OECD; in future more will join. These new members of the developed nations club should participate equitably in the common but differentiated responsibilities. The EU would also invite all non-Annex 1 countries to join the protocol on a entirely voluntary basis. Q: Are the two potential new OECD countries willing? A: That's up to them, once we know what the new commitments are going to be. EU expects them to do their bit then, and of course would hope that as many countries as possible join the protocol. Q: what is meant by joint/individual achievement of objectives (Art. 2c)? A: This would allow groupings such as the EU to carry out its commitments jointly as a Party under the Convention. In this context, these objectives are meant to be legally binding. Q: How would JI be carried out? A: Credits would only be for JI with countries who have committed to the same QELROS as Annex X, though other non-Annex X countries might participate, depending on the result of the AIJ pilot phase. Furthermore, parties would have to disclose in advance any JI (or trading) partnership, and how much reduction they would achieve. The EU hasn't yet finished its consideration of trading . Q: Quite a few PAMs in Annex A and B could be enacted unilaterally. Will the EU do so? A: In theory all commitments are achievable unilaterally, but they're more likely to be done if a broad group does them. Many measures profit from coordination. The EU is trying to push some measures unilaterally, but there is much potential for reduction that cannot be tapped this way. Q: Is there nothing in the Protocol structure on additional financing and technology transfer for non-Annex I countries? A: No, but the EU is aware that this is a cooperative effort and that the EU has a responsibility to provide additional financing and technology transfer. Q: Would the Rules of Procedure for the protocol be the same as for the convention? A: Articles 11 and 12 answer this. Briefly, if consensus is not achievable, amendments to the protocol or its annexes, as well as adoption of new annexes could be achieved through a three-fourths majority vote. The Presidency of the EU ended the session with the remark that they hoped that their draft protocol structure would be used as the basis for the negotiating text. ****************************************************************** Thursday Morning Thursday's AGBM session discussed item 5 of the agenda, on features of a protocal or another legal instrument. The majority of countries supported a protocol rather than an amendment, although some, such as the USA and New Zealand, did not yet have a clear preference. Most countries accepted the need for institutional economy, with the COP and subsidiary bodies of the Convention also supporting the agreed legal instrument. Australia referred yet again to the need for commitments for Annex I countries to be realistic and achievable, and for the legal instrument to be able to review regularly "unforeseen" changes in country circumstances which might require changes to the commitments. Otherwise, they claimed, certain countries could find themselves bearing an unequal burden. Since Australia doesn't seem very interested in bearing any kind of burden at all, their intervention didn't seem to cut much ice with anyone except the usual fossil fuel lobbyists. Many developing countries expressed serious concern over the potential threats which a new legal instrument poses to the integrity of the Convention itself, with Senegal putting this most succinctly by saying that many countries feared that this protocol could become another Montreal Protocol. They also continued to express concerns that many of the proposals submitted by developed countries contain provisions which fall outside the remit of the Berlin Mandate. Ambassador Slade, speaking for AOSIS, pointed out that their proposal's structure and language accorded with the Berlin Mandate, and called on this AGBM to request Chairman Estrada to prepare a framework document containing all the proposals for circulation as soon as possible. China asked that the Chairman identify the sources of all the proposals, and this was supported by Saudi Arabia, Iran and Kuwait. These proposals were supported by Honduras, Senegal, Dominica and Burkino Faso. Japan too supported this, a welcome indication of the type of leadership which Eco has been calling on them to demonstrate all week. Nigeria, on behalf of the African Group, stressed the need for the AGBM to take into account the potential adverse environmental and economic impacts of climate change on African countries, which include some of the least developed and most vulnerable countries in the world. After lunch, Chairman Estrada returned with four paragraphs of draft conclusions, which after some debate and minor alterations to ensure consistency with the language of the Berlin Mandate, were adopted formally. These reiterated that the POALI should "implement fully" the terms of the Berlin Mandate, and requested the Chairman to prepare a framework compilation incorporating all the proposals submitted so far. The conclusions also invited Parties to submit further proposals, particularly containing draft text. Those submitted by 15 January 1997 would be taken into account in the preparation of the Chairman's compilation. Finally, Eco would like to congratulate His Excellency Ambassador Estrada for his excellent chairing this week. We wish him a happy and prosperous New Year, and look forward to hearing of the successful entry into the world of Protocol or Another Legal Instrument (or x and y, p and q, PAMs and POALI...). ****************************************************************** Japan - How to Make Friends Japan has proposed that a protocol or another legal instrument should offer Annex I Parties a choice of target from the menu below. Option 1) Emissions Per capita. To maintain its anthropogenic emission of carbon dioxide over the period from [2000+x] to [2000+x+[5]] at an average yearly level not more than "p" tons of carbon per capita. Option 2) Total Emissions. To maintain its anthropogenic emission of carbon dioxide over the period from [2000+x] to [2000+x+[5]] at an average yearly level of not less than "q" % below the level of the year 1990. Option 3) Other suggestions for options for QELROs are welcome. There are many problems with this approach. Firstly, and most seriously, there is no way to be sure that "p", "q" and "x" will be set in such a way that there will be the global reduction in GHG emissions needed to protect the climate. The proposal should start with the overall Annex I reduction. Also, how will "p" and "q" be set relative to each other? This will affect burden-sharing arrangements and is a sensitive issue of differentiation - and hence an invitation to embroil the negotiations in time consuming arguments. When asked if he had any idea as to what "p", "q" or "x" should be, the Japanese delegate gave a very simple answer - "No". Secondly, by offering options and inviting more options, the proposal encourages each party to define its own unilateral commitment - essentially a voluntary approach. The time period "x to x+5" suggests only one limitation period: this could be 2010 to 2015 or even later. But limitations will be needed from 2000 to 2005, 2005 to 2010 and beyond. What is more, allowing a five year average allows some borrowing from the future, and this gives rise to concerns that such borrowing would be made at the expense of the environment. The point that the Japanese government seems to be missing is that the environmental objective - the whole purpose of the FCCC - must come first, and not be whatever happens to result from each party deciding its own QELRO. If Japan really wants to show leadership, if it really wants its ideas to be considered, it must propose formulas for QELROs to implement a global target that will truly protect the climate. ****************************************************************** Leman Leman was visiting the Hotel Eden last night to pick up the latest batch of sensitive documents from the US delegation, when "Deep Briefcase" drew his attention to the exotic nature of the hotel's piped movies. Leman and his colleague elected to view a sample of the goods on offer - strictly in the interests of research, of course. Considering the unusual frankness of the activities represented, Leman would now not be surprised by a US proposal for an Annex XXX... So, it's off to Bonn for the next AGBM. Leman shares delegates' excitement. And in a tent (or "flexible meeting room", as the Secretariat so diplomatically describes it), for which Saudi Arabia has generously offered to provide camels! While not wishing to look a gift camel in the mouth, so to speak, Leman is reminded that the camel has been described as a horse designed by a committee. ****************************************************************** FOR MORE INFORMATION: For enquiries and response to ECO: Eco can be contacted at: ECO Editorial Office Hotel Longchamp 7 rue Butini 1201 Geneva tel: +41 22 741 1451 (direct); +41 22 731 6750 (switchboard) fax: +41 22 738 0007 email: asieghart@gn.apc.org ECO is available electronically via the following routes: World Wide Web http://www.igc.apc.org/climate/Eco.html anonymous ftp ftp://ftp.igc.apc.org/pub/ECO gopher gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org:70/11/environment/climate APC networks conferences and Usenet newsgroup sci.environment email by request to larris@igc.apc.org For information about ECO on WWW or adobe Acrobat files, contact Richard Elen, email: relen@igc.apc.org For information about electronic mail, conference distribution, ftp, and gopher availability of ECO, contact: Lelani Arris, email: larris@igc.apc.org. 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