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A Montreal-area company, Tectonics Research Group Inc., has invented an earthquake alarm for consumers, called QuakeAlert. The device was invented by Sam Guindi, with the help of McGill Ph.D. candidate, Afshin Sadri and has been tested at the Enginering Lab at the University of British Columbia under the supervision of Dr. Carlos Ventura. The device was featured on Canada AM, a national morning newsmagazine on the CTV network on November 28. For more information, contact Sam Guindi via e-mail at tectonic@mail.odyssee.net, by phone at (514) 466-1153 or by fax at (514) 466-1136.Return to Top
Andrew StephanReturn to Topwrote: > The bombs were "Fat Man" and "Little Boy." > > Apart from anything else, it would be rather apparent if the earthquake > was not, in fact, an earthquake, and actually a nuclear test or something > similar. If you look at a seismograph, a nuclear bomb creates a pattern > something like this: > > /\ > / \ > / \ > ------ \ -------------------------- > \ / > \/ > > and that's the end of it. You don't get a whole series of waves crashing > in over an extended period of time, just one big "uummphh!" all at once. > Okay, granted, if you are a fair ways off, or the geology is pretty > complicated, you can get waves bouncing around and off of different rock > formations and types, etc. The difference between a nuclear explosion > and an earthquake is usually readily apparent to seismologists, or so I'm > told. Ocassionally, there can be some confusion, mainly with > (relatively) very small nuclear tests. Would that it were so easy ... Russ
Dennis GentryReturn to Topwrote: > I'll second that and Pauls' post in conjunction with Alans' post helped me > to get a better understanding of the scientific process in determining the > validity of a process or identified frequency. I organised a meeting of those professionally involved in assessment of earthquake predictions just last month. It looks like I will be editing a volume of proceedings for Geophysical Journal International, but in the meantime (if you are not afraid of some serious statistics) you might like to cast an eye over the abstracts. Some of them are presently to be found on my web site at http://www.seismo.demon.co.uk/Nov7th/ We are presently trying to work out how best to deal with the issue of archiving such material, and the full suite should become available in due course through the RAS site at http://www.ras.org.uk/ras/ The meeting was reported in both Nature and New Scientist, but Science appear to have ignored us. I believe that the texts are available at their respective web sites. A more detailed report will appear in EOS (newspaper of the American Geophysical Union) next week, and may appear at the AGU web site (http://www.agu.org/, I think). If not, I may seek permission to post it here. The bottom line is that no-one has yet come up with a prediction scheme which withstands careful statistical analysis. What's more, there are some very strong indications that earthquakes are inherently unpredictable, at least in the generally agreed sense of stating when, where and how big. Governments should continue to concentrate funding on monitoring, hazard assessment and on appropriate mitigation measures. Russ
Alexander Ashkinazi wrote: > > ATTENTION!!! > > There is a Method for the solution of fundamental problems > knowledge > at all levels of matter (and not only) from the Theory of a Field up > to Universum (Is created as makes the One Field Theory). > It is the Method MATRIXed of Systematics (MMS). > MMS - simplicity, beauty, perfection and practical efficiency of the > theoretical analysis of any systems and their ensembles. > MMS - this holiday of soul for the creative person. > MMS - it is a god's spark for the researcher. > MMS - unfortunately, our heavy cross. > > Everyone, who can help to bear this cross, we ask to send the answers > on our e-mail: sashaaj@hotmail.com > Thank you in advanced. > > Yours faithfully L.Fylinski & R.Rynkovski > e-mail: sashaaj@hotmail.com > > e-mail: sashaaj@hotmail.com Huh? -- "There are only two races on earth: the decent and the indecent" Viktor FranklReturn to Top
As far as i can remember from my seismology class, the radiation pattern from nuclear explosions(NE) are quite different from the earthquakes(EQ). NE are just that, explosions and radiate only preasure waves, with the first observed movement always beeing positive. EQ on the other hand are bits of rock that are displaced. They radiate both shear and preasure waves and the first motion is positive in some direction and negative in others. So by observing first motions at seisomgraphs distributed around the world (This is done routinely as seismologists often needs to know the fault plane solution, and to calculate that you have to know the first motions observed all over the world) you can figure out which events are EQ and which are NE. Also, as correctly mentioned by Andrew Stephan, EQ an NE have different waveforms, so observatories like NORSAR(Check out http://www.norsar.no/Nuclear/) can detect a NE anywhere in the world by studying the incoming waveforms.(Actually I think they constantly watch for NE). So its higly unlikely that the China Lake event was a nuclear explosion, and if it was you will certainly hear of it, since it will be imposible to obtain a fault-plane solution for the event, and it most probably will have been detected by observatories like NORSAR. Kenneth SkaarReturn to Top
In article <1996120408445618037@seismo.demon.co.uk>, Russ EvansReturn to Topwrote: >Andrew Stephan wrote: > >> The bombs were "Fat Man" and "Little Boy." >> >> Apart from anything else, it would be rather apparent if the earthquake >> was not, in fact, an earthquake, and actually a nuclear test or something >> similar. If you look at a seismograph, a nuclear bomb creates a pattern >> something like this: >> >> /\ >> / \ >> / \ >> ------ \ -------------------------- >> \ / >> \/ >> >> and that's the end of it. You don't get a whole series of waves crashing >> in over an extended period of time, just one big "uummphh!" all at once. >> Okay, granted, if you are a fair ways off, or the geology is pretty >> complicated, you can get waves bouncing around and off of different rock >> formations and types, etc. The difference between a nuclear explosion >> and an earthquake is usually readily apparent to seismologists, or so I'm >> told. Ocassionally, there can be some confusion, mainly with >> (relatively) very small nuclear tests. > >Would that it were so easy ... Okay, it's maybe not as easy as I made it sound. My understanding, though, is that the wave patterns are very different. What makes things more complex is when the nuclear tester decides to try to make it hard to tell if it was an EQ or a nuke. There are all sorts of tricks that can be done with this. Actually, one method used to hide the number of explosions (simultaneous or very near simultaneous detonation of multiple devices in a relatively small area) creates multiple sources of waves from very nearby locations. When you get this, you don't have that single wave thing anymore. Another interesting thing is a method for hiding a 20kT or so explosion. This is just a theory; I don't know if anyone has tried this, if some country has, they probably aren't going to talk about it. The method involved exploding the thing in a large cavity (of a very specific size) dug out especially for it. I don't recall the details, but there was some way (theoretically) to minimize wave transference to the ground and cause as much destructive wave interference as possible. Another interesting, but off the topic, thing was an American idea back in the '50s to float ballons (something like weather ballons) across the Soviet Union. They would be equipped with equipment to try to "hear" the noise from nuke blasts as an alternate method of detection. Andrew > >Russ
I keep reading and hearing statements something like "according to the USGS, large EQs have been getting more frequent..." or some such. However, the USGS (http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/) has a text file saying there is NO increase. It says that the only increases observed are that more 'minor' EQs are detected because of more/better instrumentation. But the data in the file only shows EQs of 7.0> and is a few years out of date. Just what IS the truth concerning significant (6.0>) EQs? -- Judson McClendon judsonmc@ix.netcom.com Sun Valley Systems http://www.netcom.com/~judsonmc/sunvalley.htmlReturn to Top
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------629372B15237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the drawing of the meter I use to measure the G-force between the Earth and the other planets. Go down on the page until you find MacroGal-meter, and click here. Knut Ove Hauge --------------629372B15237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Base: "http://home.sol.no/ovehauge/"GRAVITY MEASUREMENT GRAVITY MEASUREMENT
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Since Nov. 16, 1993 the gravity-force have been measured. After the measuring result was logged during a period of almost three years, the work started to find the formula describing the plot of the g-force. The formula was found, and then the connection between the g-force and temperature and the occurence of large earthquakes was investigated. Then a connection between large earthquakes and g-force was found, and the EQF- software was constructed. The only thing which remains in this project is to determine the connection between the air-temperature and g-force. From the logged data, it seems that the temperature is an inverce function of the g-force, but the right connection have not yet been found, but it will be.
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Date_____G-force(ln prototype scale)______Average (day,night) Temp.Deg. C
30.11.96_______________________4.1___________________-5.0
1.12.96________________________4.0___________________-2.4
2.12.96________________________4.0___________________-1.3
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The Gravity Force should be plotted the best way to fit the Temperature curve with this formula. Gravity Force expanded = (e Gravity Force)/10
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In article <1996120408445918185@seismo.demon.co.uk>, russ@seismo.demon.co.uk (Russ Evans) writes: [...] >The bottom line is that no-one has yet come up with a prediction scheme >which withstands careful statistical analysis. What's more, there are >some very strong indications that earthquakes are inherently >unpredictable, at least in the generally agreed sense of stating when, >where and how big. Governments should continue to concentrate funding >on monitoring, hazard assessment and on appropriate mitigation measures. Agreed. In a zero-sum game, investment in monitoring and hazard assessment has a far greater payoff than prediction. The point is eloquently argued by Midori Ashida in her article "Faulty Premise" in the September issue of that wonderful little magazine "The Sciences," published by NY Acad Sciences. Here's the ref: Ashida, Midori, 1996, Faulty Premise, "The Sciences," v. 36, n. 5, p. 15. The subtitle hook reads "After decades of effort and hundreds of millions of dollars spent, short-term earthquake prediction could be a disaster in the making." Ashida is a science writer and not a seismologist, but she clearly went to considerable effort to understand her subject matter (she obviously spent a long time talking to Bob Geller at U Tokyo, who is waging a one-man war against the Japanese earthquake prediction effort). She argues that the disaster at Kobe occurred in part because there was too much faith that an earthquake prediction scheme would eventually be perfected. She also makes the comment that since the US National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program was initiated under President Carter, not one US earthquake has been predicted. -- Gerard Fryer gerard@hawaii.edu http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/~gerard/ Personal views only.Return to Top
In articleReturn to Top, astephan@presby.edu (Andrew Stephan) wrote: < > > Another interesting, but off the topic, thing >was an American idea back in the '50s to float ballons (something like >weather ballons) across the Soviet Union. They would be equipped with >equipment to try to "hear" the noise from nuke blasts as an alternate >method of detection. > Yes, and today we call it the Roswell Incident ;-} -- IMPO Faber is my name, my initials are "IF" and that says it all! Visit "Quake Finders" at: http://www.deltanet.com/impo/ ==================================================================== QUAKE FINDERS...we find earthquakes BEFORE they happen... Visit our WWW site and clear up the smoke: o o o o o o o o > > http://www.deltanet.com/impo/ o _____________________________ o _____ | | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Impo@deltanet.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-