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Subject: Re: intelligent robots ... -- From: Olivier Chocron
Subject: Re: Heenan announces a new philosophical movement! -- From: johnhe@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Subject: Re: What do you mean,"We"? -- From: mrwizard@oxy.edu (Nathan Cook)
Subject: Re: RI-714i State of Sanity, Definition of -- From: Paul Davis

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Subject: Re: intelligent robots ...
From: Olivier Chocron
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 11:08:08 +0100
Andrei M. Shkel wrote:
> 
> I am doing a class project: "Intelligent robots: is it reality or
> science fiction?" I would be very much interested in knowing your
> opinion about:
> 
> 1. What is your first association with the word "robot"?
In fact, the original word meant "slave" in Czech and since, the
definition has not changed:
A robot is a machine that performs physical tasks for humans.
This does not imply that it is autonomous or intelligent.
So, yes a toaster is a robot (of the primary kind).
> 2. Do you associate this word more with real life or with science
> fiction?
As a roboticist, I work with them (and for them...who is the slave?)
and so I associate the word with real life.
> 3. Why there are not so many robots surrounding us in real life?
In the large meaning of robots, they surround us (imagine..we can say
that a car is a robot), but if you mean an autonomous and intelligent
robot, they are very few (they are here in our lab!), not fully
autonomous and hardly intelligent (as their intelligence is higly
restricted). Meanwhile, many researchers are working to design new
sophisticated and usefull robots. I think we should be flooded with
intelligent robots in a score of years.
> Thanks for your responses...
Y a pas de quoi...
-- PS.
I think that if sci-fi robots do not exist it is more because of the
lack of needs (and then of funds) than because the lack of technology.
Designing talking robots for examples is a crafty task which would
use a lot of money..too much to spent for amusing children.
Walking robots, though are heavily studied and should appear in number
as soon as industry ask for it.
Olivier
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Subject: Re: Heenan announces a new philosophical movement!
From: johnhe@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:25:39 GMT
honeycomb wrote:
: Anew philosophical movement?  And yet you claim to be so
: anti-intellectual.  
I do not claim to be an 'anti-intellectual'.  In fact I have never
used the silly elitist term 'intellectual' in any newsgroup posting.
If what I have stated is contrary to the views of self styled
'intellectuals' who abuse reason, then that is not my problem.
: How close have you ever come to have a thought?
Clearly the poster is incapable of judging what thought is!
: This is embarrassing, heenan (I'm not even going to put your name in
: capitals).  You are a very shallow human being with absolutely no idea
: about the world at all. Your new philosophy is amongst the most
: outdated and flawed i have ever seen.  
Yawn.  Just the expected stupid abuse with no bearing on reality.
: Why bother trying to create a
: new religion?  Can't you just join a ufo society or something?  Oh
: yeah, one last thing... 
There is no 'new religion' creation attempt.  Shows hows ignorant the
poster is of real philosophy.  
John
--
John Heenan      http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ohn/philosophy     mirrors
http://shadow.apana.org.au/~johnhe   Email: johnhe@shadow.apana.org.au       
: johnhe@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan) wrote:
: >Hi 
: >I am promulgating a new philosphical movement.  My thanks go to 
: >rec.sport.swimming for the experience that has given me the confidence
: >to be so brazen!  
: >The philosophy is still under development.  I know many of the swimmers
: >are hoping I'll find somewhere else to make my postings!
: >What follows below is a text only version of web pages dealing with the
: >new philosophy, which are on the two web sites below.  If your web 
: >browser does not support frames then you can access an unframed 
: >presentation by adding "/unframed.html" to the end of the web 
: >addresses
: >John
: >--   
: >John Heenan      http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ohn/philosophy     mirrors
: >http://shadow.apana.org.au/~johnhe   Email: johnhe@shadow.apana.org.au       
: > 
: >dex
: >1.  
-- 
John Heenan      http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ohn/philosophy     mirrors
http://shadow.apana.org.au/~johnhe   Email: johnhe@shadow.apana.org.au       
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Subject: Re: What do you mean,"We"?
From: mrwizard@oxy.edu (Nathan Cook)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:15:26 -0700
In article <326CDCC8.756@cjplace.batnet.com>, JS/CS@cjplace.batnet.com 
(Pacificus) says...
> I'm new here and do not want to post inappropriately. What is this 
> newsgroup about? 
> Pacificus
Good question.  What was this newsgroup intended for and what is its 
purpose today?
-- 
Nathan Cook
mailto: mrwizard@oxy.edu
Student of Occidental College
Los Angeles, California
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Subject: Re: RI-714i State of Sanity, Definition of
From: Paul Davis
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:17:31 +1000
Perhaps another ????
In-Sanity is a state where, In 
[SNIP]
>... constantly evaluating
>your own behavior and
>your own intentions, and
>the behavior of others, and
>the intentions of others,
>towards survival for all.
as apparently do the sane,
you become overwhelmed and believe that you
really are a self-automated Turing machine
whose logic circuits have become fused with
a toaster.
Have a good day all :)
Paul 'Winter Wolf' Davis
What is man without the beasts ? If all the beasts were gone man would
die from a great loneliness of the spirit - Chief Seattle
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