Subject: RI-778i Plato's pupil Socrates Disconnects from L. Ron Hubbard
From: Koos Nolst Trenite
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:55:47 -0800
9 January 1997
RI-778i 'Plato's pupil Socrates Disconnects from L. Ron Hubbard'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-778i for Internet
(Shareware-value 5 US Dollars)
"Ironically enough,
I, as the philosopher Socrates [2500 years ago],
made promotion
for the Serenity group of L. Ron Hubbard.
(see RI-766i 'The Hidden Serenity Doctrine - IMPORTANT' 27 Dec 96)
That's the 'heaven' that I promised
as a reward
for cowardice and
for deserting one's friends in danger
when they are being degraded by Suppressive Persons."
"I started to inhibited my communication to Plato,
when Plato became
too practical,
too realistic,
too near the enemy-lines."
"But there is a difference
between
confronting suppression of life
and
becoming evil because there is suppression."
'Jutta Nolst Trenite'
That Plato wrote about Socrates
does not mean that Plato was a pupil of Socrates.
You would see things more accurately
if you understand
that Socrates is rather a pupil of Plato -
Socrates has to learn from, and
he is learning (rather reluctantly) from Plato.
(see RI-259i 'On Socrates' of 19 Aug 1995
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-259i.htm )
The data was obtained in the following Auditing-sessions.
Solo-Confessional of Jutta Nolst Trenite,
on 9 January 1997, 10:40 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
[Note by Koos:
Jutta regained
very high Affinity for Koos,
very high Reality about Koos' intentions and his person, and
very high perception of Koos (perception is Communication),
in 1987.
This was shortly after an Auditing session I gave Jutta
in which we broke through
her decision in 1790 'to be dead forever'.
(see RI-133i 'Benjamin Franklin's right to NOT be' 31 Mar 95)
In that Auditing session,
she for the first time
contacted her lifetime as Benjamin Franklin.
She regained for a short while
some of her native sense of ethics,
and started to actually look at Koos
- which resulted in her gaining very high A, R, and C about Koos,
till she BROKE it again after about 20 minutes.]
[Koos to Jutta:] Find your ARC-Break
[Break in Affinity,
Break in Reality,
Break in Communication, or
Break in Understanding] with Koos.
[Koos to Jutta:] How do you find something that you have lost?
You find out where you still had it,
and where you didn't have it anymore.
And somewhere in between
there is the time and place where you lost it.
And that's where the Break in ARC
[in Affinity, in Reality, in Communication
(together making Understanding)]
took place.
You had (real, very high) ARC for Koos
in Wiesbaden [in Germany, in 1987]
for twenty minutes,
and then you stopped again
having (such real, very high) ARC for Koos.
[Shortly after the Auditing session I described above,
Jutta visited the town of Wiesbaden.]
JUTTA's REFUSAL TO SEE SUPPRESSION
[Jutta:]
"My ARC-Break then with Koos was
a Break in my Affinity, LFBD (griefcharge/sneeze)
a Break in my Reality, F
a Break in my Communication, sF (sneeze)
a Break in my Understanding. sF
It was desired Affinity. sF IND
"I desired Affinity for Koos but
...I didn't want to have
the Suppressive Persons [of Hubbard's Scientology organizations]
in my [mental] space
whom Koos was looking at and WHO WERE THERE ANYWAY.
It was inhibited Affinity. sF IND
It was no Affinity. F IND
"And then, as a result, I had no Affinity."
[Koos:] That's called an ARC-Break!
[Jutta:] "It was enforced Reality. sF IND
"I resented the enforced Reality
[that there WERE Suppressive Persons].
It was inhibited Reality. sF F IND
"Then I inhibited my Reality.
It was no Reality. F IND
"Then I wanted to 'Not-Is' the Reality [do as if it doesn't exist]
and wanted to have nothing to do with it.
It was refused Reality. sF IND
"Then I REFUSED to know about the Reality which WAS there:
The Suppressive Persons
in the Guardian Office [now called OSA] and
in Scientology.
[The most violent Suppressive Person Richard Reiss
was the head of the Correction (!) Division
- he was "the Qual Sec" - in East Grinstead,
at that time. (Note by Koos)]
[Jutta:] "It was curious about Communication. sF IND
"I was curious about communication with Koos
from the moment I saw him (again, after meeting him in previous lifetimes)
in the house "Rozel" in East Grinstead [in 1977, in the UK].
It was inhibited Communication. sF IND
"I inhibited my curiosity.
It was no Communication. sF IND
"And I didn't want to have any communication
because of the refused Reality.
It was refused Communication sF IND
"I refused communication.
I wanted to know about Koos
and NOT about the Suppressive Persons! LFBD LFBD
[That is, the Suppressive Persons
put in charge of Hubbard-Scientology since 1966
by L. Ron Hubbard and by his wife Mary Sue Hubbard.
The headquarters of Hubbard-Scientology were in East Grinstead -
in the South of England below London. (Note by Koos)]
[Jutta:]
"(My [mental] space is widening,
sounds [surrounding me] are more pronounced.)
"The Suppressive Persons
are standing in my path when I want communication to Koos
and they detract from my communication to Koos.
"It's like
I have NOW moved the Suppressive Persons to the SIDE
(even though they are of course still there, they still exist)
and
I have NOW created a direct communication line to Koos. LFBD
It was curious about Understanding. F IND
"I am NOW getting curious about understanding.
It was enforced Understanding. sF IND
"I resented the enforced understanding
[that there WERE Suppressive Persons
in Hubbard's Scientology organizations].
It was refused Understanding. sF IND
"I then refused the understanding [of these facts].
SOCRATES AND PLATO IN ATHENS
[Koos:] Find the earlier similar ARC-Break with Koos.
[Jutta:]
"The earlier similar ARC-Break F's
is in my time as Socrates:
"My Break
in Affinity, sF's IND
in Reality, sF's IND
in Communication, F IND
in Understanding. sF IND
It was desired Affinity. sF IND
"I desired Affinity for Koos/Plato.
[Koos was Plato at that time.]
It was enforced Affinity. F IND
"I resented the 'nearness' of Suppressive Persons
when I had Affinity for Plato,
Suppressive Persons
whom Plato included in his [mental] space and
whom he didn't kick out [of his mental space], like I did.
[Doing as if there are no landmines in your garden
when you know there are,
is of course not going to help
when creating a beautiful garden. (Note by Koos)]
[Jutta:] "It was inhibited Affinity. sF IND
"Then
I inhibited my Affinity,
I excluded from my Affinity for Plato the Suppressive Persons -
whom he [Plato] had in his space
IN ORDER TO LOOK AT THEM and
in order to find
- in the physical universe -
a practical solution to them,
that is,
how to break their power,
how to remove them [from office].
"(I resented that, the same as
people in the Internet newsgroups who have liking for Koos
but who
refuse to confront
AND handle Suppressive Persons, LFBD
and therefore refuse to help Koos in handling these.)
It was no Affinity. F IND
It was refused Affinity. sF IND
SOCRATES' IDEAL AT HIS DEATH
"Then at the end
I didn't want to be in Plato's [mental] space at all any more
'because of the Suppressive Persons',
and
I evaded the Suppressive Persons by escaping
into death (equals separation from my body),
into a space
seemingly free from Suppressive Persons,
a space in which I imagined
'I would be in communication,
I would be in harmony and
I would be in accord
with
all the other great spirits
who were free from the bonds of bodies'.
[The most persistent insanity
is probably the pretense to be sane. (Note by Koos)]
[Jutta:]
"My Cognition [realization] now:
"I had the 'ideal'
of going back to the Serenity group of L. Ron Hubbard
of 14 million years ago.
"My comment on that:
"As Socrates
I would have been an 'interesting' communication partner
for many people in the Internet newsgroups.
"I would have inserted in their communication my
'How right!' and my 'And now consider also that...'
I would have contributed some 'wise discussions'. LFBD
"We would have all felt very right, and
being very much against suppression.
We would sneer together about Suppressive Persons.
We would talk wisely about them, and
how WE are so much different and don't want all that...
"Some would like me, some not, and
I would again miss [nearly find out] so many Withholds [secrets]
on all of them
- as you might have noticed that
I already did with my last remarks
[nearly find out about them
that they don't actually
WANT to take actions to stop suppression] -
so that
at the end some might join together
to demand again that I be killed.
You call it 'kill-filed' nowadays [on the Internet newsgroups].
"While, in fact,
they don't want to be reminded
that they are AS irresponsible
as I was as Socrates and
that they are AS irresponsible for the society
as I was as Socrates, as well as now.
"While, in fact,
they try to hit the one
who IS courageous
in not only making contributions of thoughts
but
who also wants to bring about
real physical-universe-changes and
who asks for giving a helping hand with that,
help which I refused to give in my Greek time as Socrates.
ADMIRING SOCRATES FALSELY
"Ironically enough,
I was - and still am - [falsely] admired
for my 'courage' [of committing suicide on command of Suppressives
rather than facing the Suppressives],
and many followed.
"Ironically enough,
I [as Socrates] made promotion
for the Serenity group of L. Ron Hubbard.
(see RI-766i 'The Hidden Serenity Doctrine - IMPORTANT' 27 Dec 96)
That's the 'heaven' that I promised
as a reward
for cowardice and
for deserting one's friends in danger
when they are being degraded by Suppressive Persons.
"Further about my ARC-Break with Koos/Plato,
at my Socrates time: LFBDBD
It was a Break in Reality.
The Break occurred as
curious about Reality sF IND
desired Reality sF IND
enforced Reality sF IND
inhibited Reality sF IND
no Reality sF IND
refused Reality. sF IND
"I had so much resentment about HANDLING reality,
that
I refused ANY Reality and
gratefully accepted the poison [hemlock-poison]
that Suppressive Persons were friendly enough to offer me
in order to deliver me [set me free] from confronting and handling
the gruesome reality which THEY had created. LFBD
PLATO OPPOSED SOCRATES
"Koos as Plato denied me this poison.
He is still that stubborn and unrelenting
in denying me (and you) that poison
which would deliver us [would seemingly free us]
from confronting and handling the gruesome reality
that Suppressive Persons had created.
It was curious about Communication. sF IND
"I was curious about communication with Koos/Plato,
highly curious, and we had good communication
It was inhibited Communication. sF IND
"I started to inhibit my communication
when he [Koos/Plato] became
too practical,
too realistic,
too near the enemy-lines.
BIG BROTHERHOOD OF SPIRITS WHO REFUSE TO FACE LIFE
It was refused Communication. sF IND
"At the end
I refused communication and
I went into enforced SERENITY LFBD
- THE BIG BROTHERHOOD OF SPIRITS
WHO REFUSE CONFRONT OF EVIL AND SUPPRESSION. LFBD
"Now we have a choice between
being dominated by L. Ron Hubbard's
Church of Scientology organizations
or
being dominated by L. Ron Hubbard's
Serenity Group. LFBD
"That makes a good slogan:
'You can't escape L. Ron Hubbard!'
But I am getting ironical.
"'How about just being yourself', LFBD LFBD
I 'hear' Koos replying,
and I add
'...instead of finding "solutions"
to Suppressive Persons'.
FALSE SOLUTIONS AGAIN BY L. RON HUBBARD
"By the way,
L. Ron Hubbard tried to find answers about
what is enhancing life and about
what is suppressing life,
and
partly - when he confronted suppression of life -
he found good answers.
"And then
he took a wrong turn
with the creation of his 'Suppressive-Person-eradication-forces'
like his former 'Guardian Office',
now called 'Office of Special Affairs' (OSA),
his 'Religious Technology Center' (RTC),
his 'Ethics and Justice System',
and
he made others go mad with that, too. LFBD
"There is [after all] a DIFFERENCE between
confronting suppression of life
and
becoming evil because there is suppression!
"Now
I stop making promotion
for the Serenity group
and
I make promotion
for Koos and his idea
[that the solution to suppression of life is]
to confront suppression of life and to create life.
LFBD LFBD-F/Nind
'Jutta Nolst Trenite'
Total session time: 2 hrs 51 min
JUTTA AND L. RON HUBBARD UNITED IN PSYCHOTIC SERENITY
Solo-Confessional of Jutta Nolst Trenite,
on 9 January 1997, 15:16 GMT,
ordered by Ambassador for Mankind.
(...)
[Jutta:]
"My earlier similar ARC-Break with Koos
in the Serenity-Group time:
(see RI-403i 'Serenity helps to escape domination' of 10 Dec 95
see also the references at the end of this RI-Bulletin)
"It was
a Break in my Affinity, LFBD IND
a Break in my Reality, sF F IND
a Break in my Communication, LFBD
a Break in my Understanding. F IND
It was desired Affinity. LFBD IND
It was refused Affinity. sF IND LFBD
"I broke my desired
Affinity for, nearness to, occupying the same space with Koos,
which existed before. LFBD LF
"I refused to occupy further the same space with Koos.
It was curious about Reality. LF IND
"I got curious about the Reality of
L. Ron Hubbard being in Serenity. LFBD
It was desired Reality. LF IND
It was inhibited Reality. sF IND
It was no Reality. sF IND
"There, my ARC for Koos broke. F's
"I wondered: 'How is it to be in Serenity?' LFBD LFBD LFBD
I wanted to know that. LFBD LFBD
LFBD wide F/N's [= a big truth found out]
DESIRED PSYCHOTIC 'SERENITY'
[Jutta:]
"I desired to have the reality of 'being in "Serenity"' F's
and
I broke my desire for reality,
reality with Koos and
reality with my group of active beings.
"On the Break of inhibited Reality:
I inhibited my reality about Koos.
I inhibited my reality - which I shared with Koos before.
"On the Break of no Reality:
I didn't want to know this reality anymore.
It was also inhibited Communication. sF IND
"I inhibited my communication to Koos.
It was no Communication. sF IND
"I no longer wanted communication with Koos. LFBD LFBD
"I wanted communication with 'Serenity'.
I wanted communication with L. Ron Hubbard being in 'Serenity'.
I wanted myself to be in 'Serenity'. LFBD
"The Break occurred when I
was curious about Understanding. LF IND
"With the Break,
I ended my curiosity about understanding Koos.
It was also inhibited Understanding. sF IND
"I inhibited my understanding of Koos.
It was no Understanding.
"I didn't anymore want to have understanding of Koos.
LFBD LFBD F's
"I wanted Serenity! LFBD
Treacherous 'beauty'. LFBD
"This was my ARC-Break with Koos.
LFBD-F/Nind
"I MYSELF introduced
the third disturbing element, which caused the Break,
into our relationship! LFBDBD
"[What I introduced, were]
[enforced, psychotic] 'Serenity' and L. Ron Hubbard." LFBD
LFBDBD-F/Nind
VGI's [Very Good Indicators on finding this out]
'Jutta Nolst Trenite'
Total session time: 2 hrs 46 min
CONCLUSION
You see that
staying connected with the being L. Ron Hubbard
leads to insanity and
keeps insanity in restimulation.
You see that
repairing Breaks with Koos
returns sanity.
The definition of sanity,
per RI-714i 'State of Sanity, Definition of' of 24 Oct 1996
is
"Sanity
is a state of constantly
evaluating
your own behavior,
and
your own intentions,
and
the behavior of others,
and
the intentions of others,
towards survival for all."
>From this it follows
that ALL followers of L. Ron Hubbard,
- being
forced NOT to evaluate the behavior and intentions
of the being L. Ron Hubbard, and being
forced NOT to evaluate the behavior and intentions
of their fellow Hubbard-Scientologists, and being
forced NOT to evaluate the institutions and organizations
created by L. Ron Hubbard -
ARE
DRIVEN TOWARDS INSANITY.
The current state of the being L. Ron Hubbard
- since he decided in 1965 (when he became 'Clear')
that he now was
the most perfect being in the universe,
without need to evaluate
his own intentions,
without the need to evaluate
the intentions of those anti-social people
whom he put in charge,
without the need to evaluate
the intentions of those friends of his
whom he kicked out or murdered -
is NOT a state of sanity.
(In fact, his present state is very, very far from it.)
RESULTS
Jutta now, on 9 January 1997, finally disconnected
from the insanity of the being L. Ron Hubbard,
and so Jutta returned to sanity in that respect.
She has not disconnected
from the insanity of Richard Reiss yet, though.
(see RI-780i 'Removing Richard Reiss the wrong way' 12 Jan 97)
It took me about
15,000 hours of giving her therapy, to achieve this.
Not to mention all the blood, sweat and tears
I had to shed in the process.
Not to mention the millions of Dollars
it has cost me to achieve this.
What there IS to mention
is that
I uncovered a wealth of
extremely valuable data in the process.
(The data is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from
any journalism-type job done
by non-, ex- or anti-Scientologists,
as these people do not want to improve things, and
they know as little as possible about
the actual discoveries in the science, and
they can't or refuse to apply and use
the discoveries in the science of Scientology.
Basically their intention is to destroy whatever is good,
by finding some parts which are bad.
THE DATA I PROVIDED
IS MOSTLY NEW AND IS CONSTRUCTIVE ONLY.)
Such as
the Reliable Item-Series (RI-Bulletin Series)
which I have made available to you,
and
the Understanding Suppression Series (USP-Bulletins Series)
which will be available to you soon.
What there IS to mention
is that it enabled me
to detect and begin to avert a major disaster
that is about to happen to Mankind
because of L. Ron Hubbard's reverse use of his discoveries
about the mind and the spirit (the SCIENCE of Scientology,
- as opposed to the mafia-practices of Hubbard-"Scientology".)
What there IS to mention
is that it enabled me
to detect and remove the abomination David Miscavige
(a double is representing him at public events since 1995).
What there IS to mention is
the path that I found
out of the mafia and out of the fascism
of current Hubbard-Scientology practices,
by understanding these practices.
The work I have done now will, of course, eventually
once again eradicate the evil
once again created
by the being L. Ron Hubbard, and
once again sold by him as eternal freedom.
This time, L. Ron Hubbard uses his genius
to provide and force upon others
the unusual and deadly poison-cocktail
of a fascistic communism:
'The World Wide Dictatorship
of the Hubbard-Scientology Mafia and Its Robots'.
I am sorry to have to say it so bluntly.
But this is the result of twenty-five years
of investigation
into
the super betrayal by the being L. Ron Hubbard since 1966,
betrayal of people's goals,
betrayal of people's lives,
betrayal of people's friends,
betrayal of people's dreams and
betrayal of Mankind itself,
betrayal
AFTER he made some vital discoveries especially around 1950,
betrayal of the promise to keep his discoveries free,
knowing very well that these discoveries could equally
be - and are now being - used to enslave Man.
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite
Personal Web-page:
http://ArtOrg.com
Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com
References (available at the Library http://Art-Org.com ):
- Bulletins on the Enforced-Serenity insanity
RI-772i 'Serenity Devils of L. Ron Hubbard understood better' of 5 Jan 97
RI-766i 'The Hidden Serenity Doctrine - VERY IMPORTANT' of 27 Dec 96
RI-754i 'Bitter truth about L. Ron Hubbard and Richard Reiss' of 4 Dec 96
RI-644i 'Artists killed by Serenity, L. Ron Hubbard and Reiss' 30 July 96
RI-508i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Lethal Admiration and Serenity' 12 Mar 96
RI-499i 'John Travolta's Unconditional Admiration' of 5 Mar 96
RI-502i 'Lethal Admiration for LRH from Mithoff' of 6 Mar 96
RI-649i 'Serenity, Communism, Nirwana, and L. Ron Hubbard' 16 June 96
RI-670i 'The Vicious Arrogance of "Serenity" and L. Ron Hubbard' 18 Aug 96,
- Bulletins about the Serenity-Group Incident
RI-680i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Serenity group, More - Part A' of 27 Aug 96
RI-681i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Serenity group, More - Part B' 27 Aug 96
RI-682i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Serenity group, More - Part C' 27 Aug 96
RI-402i 'Serenity makes you right' of 10 Dec 1995
RI-402i-A'Serenity makes you right - Addition' of 11 Dec 95
RI-403i 'Serenity helps to escape domination' of 10 Dec 95
RI-404i 'Serenity aids your survival - Part I' of 10 Dec 95
RI-406i 'Serenity aids your survival - Part II. IMPORTANT' 10 Dec 95
RI-699i 'How Jutta destroys FLAG's Richard Reiss' of 23 Sept 1996
RI-700i 'How Jutta destroys L. Ron Hubbard - Serenity' of 23 Sept 96
RI-362i 'The incident EVERY Scientologist MUST know' 17 Nov 95
RI-361i 'Why LRH invited SP 'OT's' as staff (GOLD!)' 17 Nov 95
RI-638i 'A "new start" in Serenity with L. Ron Hubbard' 29 July 96
RI-399i 'LRH on Solving Things by SERENITY' of 5 Dec 1995
- Bulletins about or mentioning Socrates
RI-3i 'SEC CHECK Marc Yager RTC' of 14 Sept 1994
RI-259i 'On Socrates' of 19 Aug 1995
RI-395Ri '"Ivory Tower" defined' (revised) of 2 Dec 1995
RI-239i 'Koos and LRH and Ethics' of 17 July 1995
RI-32i 'SP-Declares are Intended - Use It' of 9 Mar 1994
RI-406i 'Serenity aids your survival - Part II. IMPORTANT' 10 Dec 95
RI-527i 'Pulling Known Withholds - Ivory Tower' of 19 Dec 1995
RI-681i 'L. Ron Hubbard's Serenity group, More - Part B' of 27 Aug 96
RI-757i 'Making a violent psychotic saner' of 11 Dec 1996
- Bulletins about or mentioning Plato
RI-3i 'SEC CHECK Marc Yager RTC' of 14 Sept 1994
RI-29Ri 'Koos, LRH, Miscavige - the Truth' of 7 Dec 1994
RI-80RBi 'The Eternal Critics - Exposed' 28 Jan 95, revised 3 Mar 96
RI-239i 'Koos and LRH and Ethics' of 17 July 1995
RI-259i 'On Socrates' of 19 Aug 1995
RI-281i 'How LRH could make up for his tyranny (in Syracuse)' 7 Oct 95
RI-361i 'Why LRH invited SP "OT's" as staff (GOLD!)' of 17 Nov 1995
RI-395Ri '"Ivory Tower" defined' (revised) of 2 Dec 1995
- Bulletins about Benjamin Franklin
RI-133i 'Benjamin Franklin's right to NOT be' of 31 Mar 1995
RI-647i 'B. Franklin returning from France - Part I' 30 July 96
RI-656i 'B. Franklin returning from France - Part II' 30 July 96
RI-674i 'B. Franklin returning from France - Part III' 30 July 96
RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
These and other RI-Bulletins can be obtained
at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com
or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI
