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Re: Q: Rational Faith references -- Paul O'Hagan
Re: Q: Rational Faith references -- "J. A. Pruitt"
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Re: Q: Rational Faith references
Paul O'Hagan
Fri, 27 Jun 1997 08:30:53 -0400
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
>
>
> It is perfectly rational to perform rites that you suspect that such a > diety, if it existed, might appreciate, but performing rites is > not faith (as defined).
> --
> Jeffrey Goldberg               
> Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice.
Just a thought..... In some religions it takes faith to complete some
rites (ie fire pit walking), while in others performing the proper
rituals is more important than actual faith (ie Christianity).
If performing some rites requires faith, does this not prove faith?  And
therefore does it not then define faith through the performance of said
rites?
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Re: Q: Rational Faith references
"J. A. Pruitt"
Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:04:48 +1000
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> Assume that
>   (1) faith is defined is "strong belief without evidence"
>   (2) your culture has a notion of a diety
>       which will rescue those who have faith in it from hopeless
>       situation.
>   (3) You are an atheist
>   (4) You have jumped out of an airplane, and your parachute fails
>       to open.
> 
> As you are falling to an almost certain death
> 
>   Is it rational to have faith in the diety?
I don't know about the sources, but i couldn't resist the question.  It
seems to me that the rationality of faith depends on the reason I am an
atheist.  Some people are atheist because they have no reason to believe a
god exists, and some people are atheist because they have reason to
believe god does not exist.  For the first type it would make sense to
believe in a god (there are no atheists in foxholes and all that).  But
for the second type of atheist, it has no rationality.  
I hope this isn't an intrusion.
jap
  "But he readily realized that a disciple is not necessarily
someone who longs to learn something.  Most often, on the contrary, one
became a disciple for the disinterested pleasure of teaching one's
master."
                -Albert Camus 'The Artist at Work' 
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Re: !!! FOR ONLY $5 ICAN GIVE YOU MORE THAN 1000 WEB PLACES !!! some web sites for testin and some shareware for testing.ZIP (56/313)
Derek Schwab
Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:06:19 -0500
What is this crap, and why did you post it?
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Re: multiplying by zero in mathematics
rickert@cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
27 Jun 1997 22:01:18 -0500
In <33B3D6E3.1FCA@mail.kc3ltd.co.uk> Walton-Training Room  writes:
>Apologies if this is the incorrect newsgroup
You probably should have tried sci.math.
>What is the best way to convince someone that any number multiplied by 
>zero is actually zero.
There likely is not a best way.  Someone who needs convincing has such
a degree of conceptual confusion about mathematics, that easy general
purpose answers are not available.  You would have to use what else
you know about this person's confusion to try to explain.
Zero, as a number, does cause conceptual confusion to some people.
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