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Subject: Re: CETI Demo at American Nuclear Soc. Mtg. -- From: ianj@tattoo.ed.ac.uk (I Johnston)
Subject: Help: How to find these papers? -- From: zhouy@acf2.nyu.edu (zhouy)
Subject: Re: Rare Metric Prefixes ? -- From: ianj@tattoo.ed.ac.uk (I Johnston)
Subject: Do you know how to do cold fusion H -- From: andré <106021.1551@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Can ETAs count marbles? -- From: rvanspaa@netspace.net.au (Robin van Spaandonk)

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Subject: Re: CETI Demo at American Nuclear Soc. Mtg.
From: ianj@tattoo.ed.ac.uk (I Johnston)
Date: 1 Dec 1996 20:16:29 GMT
Karim Alim (karim.alim@mci.com) wrote:
: What I have gathered is that the cells reliably make energy,
Where, as a matter of interest, have you "gathered" this? The most
emphatic claims for excess energy production we ever saw here were - to
put is charitably - factually incorrect.
: but that in
: doing so the beads also get rather beat-up, and thus there is some doubt as
: to whether they would ever make a good energy source.  They think they have
: a good application for transmuting dangerous radioactive elements into safe
: ones, so they are concentrating on that.  They are also tired of playing
: the calorimetry game, or so I gather.
For them to reduce their calorimetric claims from 1.3kW excess to around
1W, then say "we're tired of that game" does not exactly inspire
confidence.
: Non sequitur to this thread.  I am unaware of a REQUIREMENT for posting to
: s.p.f. that you had to have contributed to the Droege cause, or meet
: whatever criteria YOU happened to have dreamed up for defining "actively
: involved."  
I think he was suggesting that you are making rather a fool of yourself
here. Remember, "once-and-for-all-finally-this-is-it" cold fusion
devices come along at a nice steady two a year or so, and for you
suddenly to turn up, seemingly starry eyed and tell us that no, this
time it is real about a device thoroughly discussed months ago is apt to
rouse the cynic in the onlooker.
Ian
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Subject: Help: How to find these papers?
From: zhouy@acf2.nyu.edu (zhouy)
Date: 1 Dec 1996 19:59:53 GMT
Are conferences numbered in a certain way? How can I find out which
conference it is e.g. CONF-930928-3?
I need to get the follwing papers, but even librarians in my univ. do
not
have a clue.
Thanks in advance.
Yingyao Zhou
(1) Title: Analysis of beam on target interaction in a neutron-source
           test facility
    Report No: ANL/EP/CP-79740; CONF-930928-3
(2) Title: Sealed tube neutron generator
    Report No: EGG-10617-3012; CONF-921116-1
(3) Title: High output neutron tube using an occluded gas ion source
    Report No: CONF-801111-31
(4) Title: Sealed Neutron Tubes Foreword
    Report No: SAND-83-6002(1-83)
    NOtes: Translated from 37:No.212,vp(may-Jul 1982).
(5) Title: Variation of neutron yield from a titanium- tritide target
           during deuterium bombardment
    Report No:AAEC/E-629
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Subject: Re: Rare Metric Prefixes ?
From: ianj@tattoo.ed.ac.uk (I Johnston)
Date: 1 Dec 1996 20:09:21 GMT
Lars Jorgensen (techau@algonet.se) wrote:
: I'm not a physiesist. I'm just a High School student who likes physics.
: But arent there more prefixes then that becurse we have them all in ower
: "Book of formulars" or what you would call it. Dont you need any
: smaller/larger or do u just change unit then like m/lightyears?
Apart from micro, milli, kilo, mega and giga, all the other prefixes are
useless. OK, occasionally a centi ot tera turns up, but noone in their
right minds ever writes "2.6 Yottometres" rather than 2.6*10^24m.
Ian
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Subject: Do you know how to do cold fusion H
From: andré <106021.1551@CompuServe.COM>
Date: 24 Nov 1996 20:08:57 GMT
I am holder of an international patent describing process
and  device allowing to make the so called "cold fusion "
of hydrogen.I insist on the fact that this patent concern
the fusion of hydrogen because there is nothing other  in 
the apparatus when the reaction begins. One switched  off
the currant (less than three thousand volts) furnished to
the electrode when that reaction is beginning.However the
reaction continue and the gamma ray pass through at least
60 millimetres of lead.I have been  irradiated  two times 
during my experiments(that I have continued during twelve 
years).That irradiation seemed to be a treatment for skin 
cancer. I have stopped the experiments as I was enable to 
protect the environment (I am retired and I work alone in
my house).
I am seeking in two possible directions:
The first direction is to have an agreement with a  great
School, an University or a Physical Research Centre so as
to do the proof of the functioning of my apparatus.
The  second  direction  is to find  financial  support to 
create  a  company  to  exploit the patent. 
If you want  to have more details you may answer on  this
usernewsgroup to André.
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Subject: Re: Can ETAs count marbles?
From: rvanspaa@netspace.net.au (Robin van Spaandonk)
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 23:16:03 GMT
In article <199611301607.LAA101276@pilot15.cl.msu.edu>, Richard A Blue
wrote :
>I propose a simple excercise to test the counting abilities
>of the typical ETA (Easy Transmutation Advocate).  Feel
>free to devise your own version of this excercise.  I give
>but one example, but I am sure there are many other possible
>counting excercises to be considered.
>
>Let's construct lead from nickel.  Just to have definite values
No, lets not. You are correct, there are many other counting exercises,
but none of the possibly useful ones start out from stupid assumptions.
(I.e. using only nickel).
[snip]
>All ETAs will next be asked to calculate the energy release for the
>transmutation of their choice.   You remember "excess heat" and
>all that, don't you?  I warn you that this is a trick question.
Try
Ni58 + 96xD -> Pb208 + 42xH + 916 MeV
(This is not a trick answer).
>
>Then, when you have mastered energy conservation, as well as marble
>counting, we can consider advanced topics such as angular momentum
>conservation.  We'll make real nuclear scientists out of you in no
>time.
>
>As soon as you have a transmutation reaction that will actually
>release energy just hold up your hand.  Now who is going to be
>first?
Just consider my hand raised.
>
>Dick Blue
>
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk 
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