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Subject: Re: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU! -- From: candy@mildred.ph.utexas.edu (Jeff Candy)
Subject: Re: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU! -- From: Jeramie.Hicks@mail.utexas.edu (Jeramie Hicks)
Subject: Re: Proposed test- Reduction of radioactivity in CETI cell -- From: Jim Batka
Subject: Re: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU! -- From: singtech@teleport.com (Charles Cagle)
Subject: The king is naked! 2 -- From: poratmy@nvsgi1.netvision.net.il (Porat)

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Subject: Re: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU!
From: candy@mildred.ph.utexas.edu (Jeff Candy)
Date: 12 Dec 1996 17:39:51 GMT
Someone  writes:
|> If your in doubt, just remember GOD works in mysterious ways, 
|> there is a reason for everything...
Including "your" awful grammar?
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Jeff Candy                        The University of Texas at Austin
Institute for Fusion Studies      Austin, Texas
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Subject: Re: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU!
From: Jeramie.Hicks@mail.utexas.edu (Jeramie Hicks)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 06:55:14 GMT
Someone  wrote:
>just remember GOD works in mysterious ways,
>[and] there is a reason for everything...
Look, God and plasma fusion aren't too different after all!
- Hicks
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Subject: Re: Proposed test- Reduction of radioactivity in CETI cell
From: Jim Batka
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:36:38 -0500
Steve,
Thanks for your answers.  Unfortunately my news server does not receive
articles until long after they are posted (I didn't get this until today
12/12!).
Anyway, your Mu-c-f is much closer to break even than I thought.  If
only we could find a cheap source of muons ;).
-- 
Jim Batka |  Email: jim.batka@sdrc.com |  Babylon-5: Our last best Hope!
The Universe *does* revolve around Engineers, since we get
to pick the coordinate system.
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Subject: Re: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU!
From: singtech@teleport.com (Charles Cagle)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:10:26 -0800
In article <58pg17$393@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, candy@mildred.ph.utexas.edu
(Jeff Candy) wrote:
>Someone  writes:
>
>|> If your in doubt, just remember GOD works in mysterious ways, 
>|> there is a reason for everything...
>
>Including "your" awful grammar?
If his grampar was still alive, he'd teach you better manners.
-- 
C. Cagle
SingTech
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Subject: The king is naked! 2
From: poratmy@nvsgi1.netvision.net.il (Porat)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:11:47 GMT
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Here are some 'pearls'  from Gordon Pusch !( an 'answer' to Porat )
>1. Your ``theory'' reminds me of Kepler's attempts to determine the radii
>of the planetary orbits from the archimedean solids, or ``decode'' their>
>2. Most of us have probably ignored your tinkertoy-molecule-like 
``theory''
>of ``nucleii'' [sic] because we recognize that it's basically NONSENSE.
>3. If you are so ignorant that you do not understand the difference
>between an ELECTRON and a NUCLEON, I =VERY= much doubt that you have 
>=ANY= ``information'' worth ``passing on'' to us --- or anyone ELSE,
>for that matter... :-(
First ,excuse me for not answering immediately, not because i didn't know
what to answer but because, generally i 'm not at home. i work outside for 
my
living as an engineer (more than 30 years) doing some concrete things which 
no one has ever called nonsense.
A second apology is to the members of the group.
Indeed i confess i deserve a 'hiding' for the way  i presented my
'the king is naked'  message. However, i hope every one (except Mr Pusch)
understood i did it in order to get peoples' attention to what i am 
convinced is
some very important information for fusion.
Anyone with any minimum intellectual integrity (and that does not include 
Mr
Pusch) will confess that  to date, fusion (and even some of our modern 
science)
is in a mess, relative to the enormous resources invested in it.
And when one is in 'the mud',  one has to, once in a while,do some  general 
revision -from top to bottom in order to try and find out  what is wrong.
Mr Pusch and the other 'Pusches' are happy with the salary that someone
is probably paying them. They also might be involved in some project which 
has for some reason or another made him  afraid of me, my theories or
any other theories that are not his, or his friends.
Apparently Mr P is a scientist . One of the important characteristics of a
scientist is to notice every little detail. So how is it that you did not 
notice that i
signed as an engineer? Do  you think that an engineer of our day needs your 
infantile explanation about the existing model of the Atom.?.
What you did is not only a personal insult to me, but to  all the other
members of the group. Can you understand why?.
Now i have to add some more information for the other members.
I devoted about ten years of hard work to the the work i did entitled
 'A model of the Nucleus and the Atom'.
I am aware that what I presented
 in that message was not the substantiated theory
about the structure of the atom.
It was only a short promotion of my
 theory -everybody understood it
except Mr. Putsch.
  why ??  Is it because he is not intelligent enough?
Not at all.In addition, there is something
 more peculiar in Mr  P's behavior; suppose he does not want
to see and hear anything of the above theory.  but why is it so important 
for him
('God forbid') that anyone else should
see it? Are we back in the mediaeval days?
i leave it to the other members to try and explain why.
Now  for a change, let's talk  some science (members of the group,
please be patient with us
 .the discussion we started here is absolutely relevant to fusion . be
patient  and you will realize that).
i didn't want to be dragged into this  discussion  so soon but once it 
started
i had no choice.
You taught me, Mr P, that the number of electrons in the Atom is exactly 
the
same as the number of Protons,
thank you for that information. (what would i do without you !)
Now that means for instance that the number of electrons in the lead Atom
is  82  and  that the number of electrons in Nickel is 28
Have you ever  tried Mr P,
to explain to yourself  and not just to  recite as a parrot
 how such a thing is possible?. 82 protons have  full
control  over  82   (nothing more and nothing less)   Electrons  which
 orbit at a tremendous velocity  all around that  atom ,and   all by 
'remote control ' (oh mighty God,
You are great!)
Now, Mr P, i would  like to ask you a little question (please write this
 question down  in your  diary)
Do you have any experimental evidence that Lead has 82 Electrons around
it?
(please repeat for yourself the above strange question)
I will make it even easier for you :Do you have any experimental evidence
that the Nickel  Atom has 28 electrons around it ?
Or maybe it is  just a  'smart guess' of a scientist.
Now, I would like to ask any of  the
members of the group who can help Mr P
answer that question will be welcome (and will be recommended for the Nobel
Prize).you may laugh but still you owe
  an answer to that question.
Now if we are  dealing  just with smart guesses, then
  why just  stick to only one of them.
Let me save you time , people. : Even if Mr Pusch  will push for the rest 
of his life
 ,and i wish him a long life
because after all he has done a great service to me and
 maybe to science. And  even if his  grandchild looks
 look for it all his life,
 he will never find evidence for it. Do  you Know why? In
 fact why should they just because someone invented a
theory?
Now,  sit firmly in you seats,because after my next declaration your seats
.will start to  shake.
There in no direct connection between the number of Protons  and the number
of Electrons in the Atom !.  Keep that declaration in your minds and write
down in your diaries the date you first heard it.
The number of positivly charged protons is less than commonly
beleived to be.according to my new findings,there are protons
with free armes that are positive charged ,on the other hand there
are others in other locations in the nuc. that are not charged
because all of their free sides are occupied by the inner nuclear
bomds,so if there are less positives than there are less negative electrons 
as well
on the other hand there are in big nuc. electrons attatced to neutrons !!
that is the basis to my above declaration that there is no direct
connection between the number of protons and 'outside' electrons.
members of the froupe are invited to doscuss it here or privately
This  revolutionary concept is vitally important for the understanding  of
the structure of  the Nucleus and the Atom.
it is all substantiated in the above book  and if you want
t to understand that it's  not  just talking
you have to get that book. i cant explain it in one page.
and here i call on
 you and especially organizations of science:  You spend
 so much money on research, So what risk is involved in
purchasing  one  book for an institute.
Maybe it will save you much more than the price
of that book.
and any of the members of the group who would like to go on discussing it 
are
most welcome.
Excuse me, Mr Pusch for being a bit rude. After
 all you did it as well
and after all we all want a better world for us and for others.
And as old Catto of ancient Rome used to say
and after all  i say that the Alfa Particle
has a cross-like shape, the Tritium Particle
has a T-like shape and the Deutron
is as i described before. (lets say that this will be in short
my trade mark . )
Eng. Yehiel Porat
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