Back


Newsgroup sci.polymers 8843

Directory

Subject: Wanted: Info about BONAPORE filters -- From: che94beq@studserv.uni-leipzig.de
Subject: PTFE Fumes Toxic to Birds?? -- From: DMusgrave@swri.edu (Dave Musgrave)
Subject: Experienced with Loramid? -- From: aroschelle@aol.com
Subject: polymer for gearboxes? -- From: aroschelle@aol.com
Subject: Transparent polymer resistant to diesel fuel -- From: Don McMahon
Subject: Re: Polythiophene manufacturer -- From: jaspevacek@mmm.com (John Spevacek)
Subject: polythiophene manufacturers -- From: michaeca
Subject: Re: Polymers in ophthalmology were -- From: tom jiang
Subject: WANTED : Entry level position in R&D.; -- From: Doris Garvey
Subject: epoxy adhesive -- From: "Jeremy J. O'Hare"
Subject: Re: Tg of cured epoxies -- From: tom jiang
Subject: surface tension of PTFE, PVDF, and regenerated cellulose -- From: Tom Reynolds
Subject: Flame Retardant Mechanisms -- From: dhorsey914@aol.com
Subject: FREE guide to filtering and degassing HPLC solvents -- From: Paul Glenner
Subject: Re: PTFE Fumes Toxic to Birds?? -- From: larryal@enter.net (Larry Alpert)
Subject: CFV: sci.engr.joining.misc, sci.engr.joining.welding -- From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Subject: bicycle wheels -- From: G.Heness@uts.edu.au (Greg Heness)
Subject: bicycle wheels -- From: G.Heness@uts.edu.au (Greg Heness)
Subject: HELP HAIR AND KERATIN CHEMISTRY -- From: bedue
Subject: Re: Polythiophene manufacturer -- From: winokur@ewald.physics.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: polymer for gearboxes? -- From: Bill Thurber
Subject: Re: PTFE Fumes Toxic to Birds?? -- From: Martin@nezumi.demon.co.uk (Martin Tom Brown)
Subject: Re: bicycle wheels -- From: jaspevacek@mmm.com (John Spevacek)
Subject: Re: bicycle wheels -- From: jaspevacek@mmm.com (John Spevacek)

Articles

Subject: Wanted: Info about BONAPORE filters
From: che94beq@studserv.uni-leipzig.de
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 15:58:56 +0100
Hello,
I am looking for information about BONAPORE polymer material (from
Sweden).
Maybe there is a source where I can ask.
Thank you 
Tobias
Return to Top
Subject: PTFE Fumes Toxic to Birds??
From: DMusgrave@swri.edu (Dave Musgrave)
Date: 5 Dec 1996 17:30:40 GMT
Was listening to a "Bird Expert" on the radio, who recommended getting rid
of all your Teflon-coated cookware if you have birds in the house.  Said
if you let it overheat, the fumes will kill the bird very quickly.
What say yee, PTFE gurus?
Dave
Return to Top
Subject: Experienced with Loramid?
From: aroschelle@aol.com
Date: 5 Dec 1996 19:14:35 GMT
I'm trying to gather some information on Loramid and other polymer
alternatives for a materials problem involving gears.
If anybody has ANY information which could be helpful, I'd really
appreciate it.  I need a durable material with high beam bending
strength....  and a bunch of other requirments.
thanks so much,
Amy
Please send me e-mail at:
ARoschelle@aol.com
Return to Top
Subject: polymer for gearboxes?
From: aroschelle@aol.com
Date: 5 Dec 1996 19:18:03 GMT
I'm looking for a superior polymer/ceramic/composite to take the place of
a brass gear in a gear box with a worm and gear.  The material must not
require lubrication and must result in reasonable amounts of noise and
heat. 
Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated!
thanks!
Please send responsed to:
ARoschelle@aol.com 
Return to Top
Subject: Transparent polymer resistant to diesel fuel
From: Don McMahon
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 14:02:17 -0800
Hi,
I'm having a vendor build a hand held digital instrument for our
automotive service network. The faceplate sheet of the instrument must
be transparent (for LED's and numerical displays), flexible (for
membrane switches), and resistant to diesel fuel (aromatic hydrocarbons)
splash.  His label vendor recommended LEXAN (a GE polycarbonate) but I'm
afraid that the diesel exposure will affect it's transparency.  
I've come across information on TROGAMID and ZYTEL (amorphous nylons)
and polysulfones, but I have no experience with plastics at all (I'm a
software type).  Would someone please recommend a thermoplastic sheet
material that might fit this application?  Thanks for your help.
Don McMahon
Sr. Project Specialist
Stanadyne Automotive Corp.
92 Deerfield Rd.
Windsor CT 06095-4209
Return to Top
Subject: Re: Polythiophene manufacturer
From: jaspevacek@mmm.com (John Spevacek)
Date: 5 Dec 1996 18:19:37 GMT
gt8989b@prism.gatech.edu (Sujatha Narayan Ramesh) wrote:
>  Hi there,
>
>        I am looking for any company that makes conducting poly(3-alkyl thiophen
>e) polymers in bulk. I need it for doing some bulk processing. Please let me kno
>w if you have any info. My email is gt8989b@prism.gatech.edu.
>
>        Also I'm trying to get some info on this company called Neste Oy corp. i
>n Finland. Thay make polythiophenes. Please let mw know if you know any contact to them. I've tried the web. 
>
You missed 'em. Try 
John
Return to Top
Subject: polythiophene manufacturers
From: michaeca
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:23:49 -0800
Mr. Narayan,
I forwarded your interest to an acquaintance of mine at Neste Oy.  He is 
the Manager of Conductive Polymer Applications at Neste in Porvoo.  Let 
me know if you do not hear from him in a week or two.
Return to Top
Subject: Re: Polymers in ophthalmology were
From: tom jiang
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 09:23:33 -0700
There are several books available, such as
J. Hartstein, Extended Wear Contact Lenses for Aphakia and Myopia
Contact lens contains three categories: hard lens (like PMMA)
					hydrophilic lens (like PHEMA)
					soft hydrophobic lens (like PDMS)
They are other many polymeric materials used in the ophthalmology (like
Acrylic lens in ocular implant surgery and vitreous replacement and
nylon sutures).  Do a key word search in your library.
carloant@mbox.vol.it wrote:
> 
> Were can I found some about?? In the net??
> Many thanks
> 
> Carlo
> Ragusa Italy
> 
Return to Top
Subject: WANTED : Entry level position in R&D.;
From: Doris Garvey
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:57:21 -0500
Greetings
	My name is Doris, I am a Chemical Engineer, just graduated from the University of
New Hampshire. I am looking for to work for a growing company
in southern NH and North-Eastern MA area. I have two years of laboratory experience
in polymer science and 10 years of management experience. If you know of an
opportunity, please contact me or forward my resume.
Thank you for your help.
_____________________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Doris Garvey
110 Hardy Road
Londonderry, NH  03053
Voice: H. (603) 432-4768   W. (603) 862-3677
Fax:  (603) 862 3617	Email: doris@polymer.unh.edu
OBJECTIVE:
 	Entry level position in R&D.;  
_____________________________________________________________________________________
EDUCATION:
University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH
     B.S. Chemical Engineering 					May 1996   
     Certified Engineer in Training
     B.S. Hotel Administration                      		May 1982
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Technical experience
     Polymer Research Group                                       May 1995 - Present
       	Special Project Research Assistant
	Study of the morphology of composite latex particles synthesized by emulsion 
	polymerization; and surface characterisation of polymers and copolymers.  	  
        Research Assistant 
        Navy research project involving microencapsulation of a biocide
	in a polymer coating to prevent fouling on ship hulls.
        Responsibilities include :
        - emulsion polymerization techniques
        - controlled release studies
        - microencapsulation process
        - preparation  of marine antifouling coatings
        Analytical techniques: UV, HPLC, GPC, DSC
	Electron microscope and microtoming
Management experience
     Conway Office Products                                          1990 - 1993 
       Konica Office Product Manager
     The Flatley Company                                             1987-1990
     	Director of Marketing
     The Royal Sonesta Hotel                                         1985-1987
        Catering Services Manager
     The Westin Hotel Company                                        1982 - 1985
        Catering Services Manager
_____________________________________________________________________________________
REFERENCES:  Available upon request
Return to Top
Subject: epoxy adhesive
From: "Jeremy J. O'Hare"
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 17:34:42 -0500
Does anyone know of an epoxy adhesive that will survive a 30 minute
40:1:8 H20:H202:NH4OH etch at 60C?  I am trying to bond glass to a
nickel substrate.  I've tried Epotek 301 and Grace Stycast 1267.
Return to Top
Subject: Re: Tg of cured epoxies
From: tom jiang
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 08:59:40 -0700
TMA and DSC generally give different readings of Tg for the same
polymeric material. The former is usually smaller. DSC can be used to
determine degree of polymerization of an epoxy. Tg from DETA is highly
related with frequencies (mobile ions dominate below Tg and dipole terms
dominate above Tg).
Tom Jiang
Return to Top
Subject: surface tension of PTFE, PVDF, and regenerated cellulose
From: Tom Reynolds
Date: 5 Dec 1996 21:29:38 GMT
Hello,
I am looking for surface tension values and water contact angles for PTFE, PVDF, and regenerated cellulose.  
Tom Reynolds
Return to Top
Subject: Flame Retardant Mechanisms
From: dhorsey914@aol.com
Date: 6 Dec 1996 02:06:47 GMT
Greetings,
I am looking for some reference to research groups investigating flame
retardant mechanism in polymers.  Any help?  
Thanks,
Doug Horsey
Ciba Additives
Doug. Horsey@UTSC.mhs.ciba.com
Return to Top
Subject: FREE guide to filtering and degassing HPLC solvents
From: Paul Glenner
Date: 6 Dec 1996 21:23:38 GMT
A handy guide for HPLC users on the ins and outs of purifying HPLC 
solvents to get the best performance and increase the life of critical 
components such as pumps and columns.  The effect of dissolved gases on 
spurious peaks and baseline drift is discussed as well as the dissolved 
oxygen on fluorescence and electrochemical detectors. Maintaining solvent 
purity after filtration and degassing is also discussed. The booklet is 
available from Lazar Research Labs. Inc. by emailing service@lazarlab.com 
or faxing 1-213-931-1434.  The booklet can also be obtained from the 
Lazar web site at http://www.lazarlab.com
Return to Top
Subject: Re: PTFE Fumes Toxic to Birds??
From: larryal@enter.net (Larry Alpert)
Date: 6 Dec 1996 01:50:06 GMT
In article <5870s1$5f1@sun2.ccf.swri.edu>, DMusgrave@swri.edu says...
>
>Was listening to a "Bird Expert" on the radio, who recommended getting
>of all your Teflon-coated cookware if you have birds in the house.  Sa
>if you let it overheat, the fumes will kill the bird very quickly.
>What say yee, PTFE gurus?
>Dave
   I've seen it happen.  Not to good for humans either.  
   I wouldn't say to get rid of it, just don't leave em on a burner running on 
empty.....
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------
Lawrence Alpert    FLUORTEK, INC.     610-559-9000 voice
Prod. Dev. Eng.    12 McFadden Rd.    610-559-1919 fax
larryal@enter.net  Easton, PA 18045
Custom Medical Extrusions, Compounds, and Assemblies
Return to Top
Subject: CFV: sci.engr.joining.misc, sci.engr.joining.welding
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Date: 6 Dec 1996 02:46:38 -0000
                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group sci.engr.joining.misc
              unmoderated group sci.engr.joining.welding
Newsgroup lines:
sci.engr.joining.misc	Joining of materials for manufacture & repair.
sci.engr.joining.welding	Welding of materials for manufacture & repair.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 27 Dec 1996.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponent.  Do not
distribute this CFV or the information contained in it in any form
without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Dr. Martin P. Jones 
Proponent: Matthew W. White 
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe 
Votetaker: Jim Davis 
RATIONALE: sci.engr.joining.misc
Materials joining plays an integral role in the fabrication,
manufacturing, and repair of virtually all structures and devices.  These
operations are a significant source of added value and have a major impact
on reliability and performance.  The technologies associated with successful
joining of materials span a wide range of engineering and scientific
disciplines.  Advances in materials, design, manufacturing and industrial
engineering, process control and automation all interact to increase the
complexity of each joining application.  A newsgroup dedicated to discussion
of joining-related issues will greatly facilitate communication between
scientists, engineers, and manufacturers with common challenges.  It would
also provide a platform for cross-disciplinary exchange on joining-related
issues.  The newsgroup, sci.engr.joining.misc, is proposed, not as a catchall
group, but as a rational starting point for joining related groups under the
sci.engr.joining hierarchy.
RATIONALE: sci.engr.joining.welding
Welding is one of the most common joining processes utilized in manufacturing
and fabrication today.  The International Institute of Welding/Institut de
Soudure currently identifies over 140 separate welding processes and allied
technologies, ranging from arc welding for thick section steel fabrication to
the wire bonding processes used in electronics manufacture. These operations
are a significant source of added value and have a major impact on system
reliability and performance.  The technologies associated with successful
welding span a wide range of engineering and scientific disciplines.
Advances in materials, design, manufacturing and industrial engineering,
process control and automation all interact to increase the complexity of each
joining application.  A recent Deja News search revealed over 4,000 posts on
welding-related topics across USENET.  This indicates more than sufficient
interest to create a welding newsgroup.  A newsgroup dedicated to discussion
of welding topics will greatly facilitate communication between scientists,
engineers, and manufacturers with common challenges.  It would also provide a
platform for cross-disciplinary exchange on welding-related issues.   The
newsgroup sci.engr.joining.welding is proposed for the exchange of scientific
information and technical discussion of welding issues.
CHARTER: sci.engr.joining.misc
A newsgroup dedicated to the exchange of scientific information and
discussion of technical issues relating to the general joining of
materials for manufacture and repair.  Anyone interested will be
welcome to participate in discussions about, but not limited to:
1..  Joining methods: mechanical fasteners, adhesive, thermal spraying.
2.  Other disciplines impacted by joining: nondestructive testing,
quality control, mechanical testing, materials engineering, structural
design.
3.  Professional society activities related to joining: Adhesion
Society of Japan, American Welding Society, Croatian Welding Society,
Japan Welding Society, International Institute of Welding, ASM
International, ASME International, American Society for Testing and
Materials, American Society for Nondestructive Testing, British Institute
of Non-Destructive Testing
4.  Employment opportunities within the joining technology field.
5.  Educational resources and events.
6.  Upcoming conferences related to joining.
In keeping with the tradition of sci.engr, on-topic sales material and
advertisements are acceptable within this newsgroup under the condition that
embedded within it is useful, non-product-specific and free information.
Examples of such advertisements would include:  new or improved textbooks
and software; new or updated WWW sites; course or lecture announcements; and
job listings.   Advertising which requests that no e-mail replies be made to
their postings, uses false e-mail return addresses, is blatantly off
topic, or promotes illegal schemes or purposes is unwelcome.  Responses to
inappropriate advertisements should be made directly to the senders and their
service providers and not posted to the newsgroup.
Binaries are not permitted on this newsgroup.
Note: This newsgroup will have a gateway to a dedicated mailing list
so that people who do not have access to Usenet newsgroups will be
able to read and post messages to the newsgroup via e-mail.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: sci.engr.joining.welding
A newsgroup dedicated to the exchange of scientific information and
discussion of technical issues relating to the joining of materials by
welding for manufacture and repair.  Anyone interested will be welcome
to participate in discussions about, but not limited to:
1.  Welding methods: resistance welding, arc welding, brazing, oxyfuel
gas welding, soldering, solid state welding.
2.  Other disciplines impacted by welding: nondestructive testing,
quality control, mechanical testing, materials engineering, structural
design.
3.  Professional society activities related to welding: American
Welding Society, Croatian Welding Society, Japan Welding Society,
American Society for Testing and Materials, American Society for
Nondestructive Testing, International Institute of Welding, ASM
International, ASME International, British Institute of Non-Destructive
Testing.
4.  Employment opportunities within the welding technology field.
5.  Educational resources and events.
6.  Upcoming conferences related to welding.
In keeping with the tradition of sci.engr, on-topic sales material and
advertisements are acceptable within this newsgroup under the condition
that embedded within it is useful, non-product-specific and free information.
Examples of such advertisements would include:  new or improved textbooks
and software; new or updated WWW sites; course or lecture announcements; and
job listings.   Advertising which requests that no e-mail replies be made to
their postings, uses false e-mail return addresses, is blatantly off
topic, or promotes illegal schemes or purposes is unwelcome.  Responses to
inappropriate advertisements should be made directly to the senders and their
service providers and not posted to the newsgroup.
Binaries are not permitted on this newsgroup.
Note: This newsgroup will have a gateway to a dedicated mailing list
so that people who do not have access to Usenet newsgroups will be
able to read and post messages to the newsgroup via e-mail.
END CHARTER.
HOW TO VOTE:
Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and
after the "-=-=-=-" lines.  Don't worry about the spacing of the
columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  And
please don't send the entire CFV back!
Mark the ballot and then mail it to: jjd@primenet.com
Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:
[ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
[ NO      ]  example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
[ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
sci.engr.joining Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)
Give your real name here:
  Your Vote  Newsgroup
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  sci.engr.joining.misc
[         ]  sci.engr.joining.welding
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One account per person and one
vote per person.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the
votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this
includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.
Vote counting is automated: If you don't follow these directions then
your vote may not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within several days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure that your
vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor
of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
people who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested people defeats this purpose.  Please do not redistribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV will result in those votes being cancelled.  When
in doubt, ask the votetaker.
DISTRIBUTION:  This CFV has been crossposted to
        sci.engr.civil
        sci.engr.manufacturing
        sci.engr.mech
        sci.engr.metallurgy
        sci.engr..semiconductors
        sci.materials
        sci.materials.ceramics
        sci.polymers
Return to Top
Subject: bicycle wheels
From: G.Heness@uts.edu.au (Greg Heness)
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 06:20:18 GMT
A student here is dong a project on making polymer and polymer matrix
bicycle wheels. Does anyone have any information regarding this?
Greg Heness
Univesity of Technolgy, Sydney
Greg Heness
University of Technology, Sydney
Dept. of Materials Science
g.heness@uts.edu.au
PO Box 123, Broadway, 2007
Australia
Phone 61 2 9514 1782
Fax   61 2 9514 1628
----------------------------------------------
I'd rather die in my sleep like my grandfather,
Than screaming in terror like his passengers.
-----------------------------------------------
Return to Top
Subject: bicycle wheels
From: G.Heness@uts.edu.au (Greg Heness)
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 06:20:21 GMT
A student here is doing a project on ploymer or polymer compsite
bicycle wheels. Anyone out there that can point him in the right
direction? Please respond via me
Thanks in advance
Greg Heness,
University of Technology, Sydney
Greg Heness
University of Technology, Sydney
Dept. of Materials Science
g.heness@uts.edu.au
PO Box 123, Broadway, 2007
Australia
Phone 61 2 9514 1782
Fax   61 2 9514 1628
----------------------------------------------
I'd rather die in my sleep like my grandfather,
Than screaming in terror like his passengers.
-----------------------------------------------
Return to Top
Subject: HELP HAIR AND KERATIN CHEMISTRY
From: bedue
Date: 6 Dec 1996 14:06:36 GMT
Hi,
Looking for informations about hair and keratin chemical treatments and 
analysis. Do you have some books, website or general informations for me?
Thanks in advance
Return to Top
Subject: Re: Polythiophene manufacturer
From: winokur@ewald.physics.wisc.edu
Date: 6 Dec 1996 14:35:16 GMT
In article <584u7o$89e@acmex.gatech.edu>, gt8989b@prism.gatech.edu (Sujatha Narayan Ramesh) writes:
>  Hi there,
>
>        I am looking for any company that makes conducting poly(3-alkyl thiophen
>e) polymers in bulk. I need it for doing some bulk processing. Please let me kno
>w if you have any info. My email is gt8989b@prism.gatech.edu.
>
>        Also I'm trying to get some info on this company called Neste Oy corp. i
>n Finland. Thay make polythiophenes. Please let mw know if you know any contact to them. I've tried the web. 
>
>	Thanks.
>
>Sujatha
>
>
>-- 
>Sujatha Narayan
>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
>uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt8989b
>Internet: gt8989b@prism.gatech.edu
Two possible sources are:
Aldrich Chemical Co. Inc.,
P.O. Box 355
Milwaukee, WI 53201
(800)558-9160
at ~$200/gram
and
Rieke Metals, Inc.
6133 Heide Lane
Lincoln, NE 68512
(402)472-9044
I hope this helps
MJWinokur
Return to Top
Subject: Re: polymer for gearboxes?
From: Bill Thurber
Date: 6 Dec 1996 16:56:57 GMT
             Perhaps a combination of Polyimide's heat resistance and
             and a bondable superhard inorganic anti-wear concentrate
             made from the hardest known compounds for resisting wear
             and friction is your best consideration...if you need a
             molder for gear stock shapes, we can recommend one of our
             customers... Want more information?...You can also contact
             us at Fax 281-398-0716...Sincerely, Bill Thurber
Return to Top
Subject: Re: PTFE Fumes Toxic to Birds??
From: Martin@nezumi.demon.co.uk (Martin Tom Brown)
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 96 10:10:18 GMT
In article <5870s1$5f1@sun2.ccf.swri.edu>
           DMusgrave@swri.edu "Dave Musgrave" writes:
> Was listening to a "Bird Expert" on the radio, who recommended getting rid
> of all your Teflon-coated cookware if you have birds in the house.  Said
> if you let it overheat, the fumes will kill the bird very quickly.
> 
> What say yee, PTFE gurus?
Birds are quite sensitive to toxic fumes, they were in fact used to 
check for firedamp in mines until more sensitive detectors were available.
So if you manage to get the pan so hot it starts decomposing the Teflon  
(near to red heat) then your bird might keel over as a result.
Treat the bird keeling over as a sort of fire & toxic gas alarm!
PTFE coated pans are unlikely to be a serious threat to it's health.
Regards,
-- 
Martin Brown       __                CIS: 71651,470
Scientific Software Consultancy             /^,,)__/
Return to Top
Subject: Re: bicycle wheels
From: jaspevacek@mmm.com (John Spevacek)
Date: 6 Dec 1996 19:19:46 GMT
G.Heness@uts.edu.au (Greg Heness) wrote:
>A student here is dong a project on making polymer and polymer matrix
>bicycle wheels. Does anyone have any information regarding this?
>
I'd simply repost this to . You'll get plenty of 
responses and maybe even some good information. (They tend to be very 
opionionated over there!).
John
Return to Top
Subject: Re: bicycle wheels
From: jaspevacek@mmm.com (John Spevacek)
Date: 6 Dec 1996 19:23:51 GMT
Opps!. I left off an "s". If should be !! Sorry.
John
Return to Top

Downloaded by WWW Programs
Byron Palmer