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Subject: Re: HELP! COMPOSITES FABRICATORS ASSOCIATION -- From: GILCHRISTJ
Subject: Re: JOB -- From: gradyr@mindspring.com (Grady Russell)
Subject: Re: Needless Loss of Eight Lives Working with High Pressure -- From: kcb@phoenix.net (K. C. Bennett)

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Subject: Re: HELP! COMPOSITES FABRICATORS ASSOCIATION
From: GILCHRISTJ
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:10:33 -0800
http://www.cfa-hq.org:80/index.html
is there WWW address
I asked them to mail you their snail mail address
Good luck
Jim
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Subject: Re: JOB
From: gradyr@mindspring.com (Grady Russell)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:52:59 -0600
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I'm a little outdated here but feel the need to reply as I am a student
who will be entering the job market in Dec of 97, hopefully as an
industrial hygienist.
You hear it all the time. Some say they can't get a job and then others
say it can not be better. I've turned down full-time jobs that were
offered to me before I could complete my degree as have other students in
our department. Yet, we have a few that have no ideas nor any leads on
future positions.
What strikes me as odd are the ones that complain there are no jobs. These
people (bear in mind I'm not accusing anyone here, just stating what I
have seen others do) don't pursue nor place themselves in settings where
they will hear about jobs. I have over 200 hours of professional
development courses under my belt as a student. I receive business cards
and leads at each short course I attend. I place myself in settings where
I will meet people that know of open positions. I have developed a five
year career development plan on which I have set goals and outlined how I
will obtain these goals. I have never walked into a professors office and
asked if they could find me a summer position or work-on-the-side.
Instead, I pursue these myself. I contact people who are in the position I
would like to be in and ask them, how did they get there. I attempt to
learn from those who have walked before me. I attend local chapter
meetings of professional organizations as a student. I use the resources
of the university to my best ability. I have students come to me and ask
if I know of positions that are open. Last summer, I told students of
summer positions that I turned down and no one called these people nor
sent them a resume. I typically will send a company a resume and cover
letter. In my cover letter, I state I will call the next week and follow
up. The next week, I call until I get a hold of them. To the original
poster, be agressive. Use a headhunter. Use any resource that is available
to you. Network. I'll say that one again because it is extremely
important..NETWORK. Get to know people in your field. These people can not
only inform you of positions but can also assist in problems you may have
in professional settings.
I also realize I won't land a job immediately that will enable me to
purchase a BMW. I also realize by limiting the region in which I'm willing
to work, I'm also limiting the positions that are available to me. I
actually saw a mechanical engineering tech student complain he couldn't
get a job. He was from Park City, KY. He wanted a job in Park City,KY
population about 500. He had never thought to himself if mechanical
engineering tech positions would actually be available in Park City, KY.
He apparently went through college being passive and not knowing or
planning for future positions. I also see students who don't want to take
a position at $19,000 with our state OSHA understanding that in a few
years they can move up and ahead and obtain what they want. I see students
who don't pursue summer interns to help gain work experience. I see
students EXPECTING nearly $40,000/yr entry level. Those positions are VERY
few if they actually exist.
I'm by know means an expert in finding a job. I feel what I have attempted
to accomplish is working for me. I am more than open to accept comments or
critiques from those in the field about what I've stated.
Grady Russell
Industrial Hygiene Student
Western Kentucky University
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              Industrial Hygiene on the WWW
         http://www.cs.wku.edu/~russellg/ih/ih.html
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Subject: Re: Needless Loss of Eight Lives Working with High Pressure
From: kcb@phoenix.net (K. C. Bennett)
Date: 16 Jan 1997 07:18:09 GMT
Status report:
There are currently three separate investigations going on:  OSHA, the
Wyman-Gordon company, and an independent investigation by lawyers for the
family of one of the men killed in the accident.  According to the Houston
Chronicle, they expect some results within a week or two.
There was a joint memorial service here in northwest Houston this past
Sunday, attended by over 2000 people.
K. C. Bennett
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