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Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter -- From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Subject: Post-Doc Positions, Analytical Chem, Chromatography -- From: WH Robins
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: Don Overton
Subject: Re: Ivy League - The Bottom Line -- From: Don Overton
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: Don Overton
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: dcs2e@darwin.clas.virginia.edu (David Swanson)
Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter -- From: davej@sedona.net (Dave Jensen)
Subject: Re: Ivy League - The Bottom Line -- From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Subject: Re: Ivy League vs. Other Schools (end this thread!!) -- From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter -- From: bhat@news.cs.columbia.edu (Dinkar N Bhat)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Subject: Re: tactics/ethics for accepting offers -- From: robert.macy@engineers.com (Robert Macy)
Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter -- From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Subject: Re: Post-Doc Positions, Analytical Chem, Chromatography -- From: fweesner (Forrest Weesner)
Subject: Ivy memories -- From: woodruff@metrolink.net (Trent Woodruff)
Subject: RESUME: Research Scientist * AIDS * R&D; * LIS * QA/QC -- From: krokos@ix.netcom.com (Christopher Krokos *USA*)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: Don Overton
Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter -- From: fweesner (Forrest Weesner)
Subject: Neutralize Nuclear Waste -- From: LULU
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: cstone@math.math.unm.edu (Chris Stone)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: yvonne@alumni.stanford.org (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: cpellegr@emerald.tufts.edu (Cris Pellegrino)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: cynthias@ifi.uio.no (Cynthia Shiang-sheng Smith)
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools -- From: cynthias@ifi.uio.no (Cynthia Shiang-sheng Smith)

Articles

Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter
From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:09:36 -0400
On 15 Sep 1996, Dave Jensen wrote:
> I just finished an interesting article in Newsweek Magazine, July 29th '96
> issue, on a topic which may stimulate discussion on this newsgroup beyond
> the "Ivy League" thread (which has become quite boring).
Yes, I have been getting tired of the "Ivy League" thread, too, and I've
been active in "diluting" it by reposting the posts but after editing out
s.r.c. out of the large cross post list. Evidently, someone thought "we"
here on s.r.c. needed what even some on the other newsgroups are now
concluding was a substantially degenerating discussion. 
> Two psychologists at the University of Michigan, Drs. D. Lykken and A.
> Tellegen, have completed a lengthy study of over 2,000 identical twins
> born between 1936 and 1955. They were wondering if perhaps the ability to
> be happy was somehow genetic. According to them, it is. What they found
> was that this ability is set in each person by what they call a "Happiness
> Set Point."  Evidently, researchers are now finding that happiness is
> governed by a preset value to which it invariably returns, in the same way
> that many scientists now feel that a metabolic set point determines one's
> weight.  Some researchers are following this study to determine if the set
> point is related to levels of the brain chemical, dopamine.
The idea that identical twins have identical (or at least substantial)
behavior overlaps is not a new idea. And, its not a bad idea (or
conclusion), either. It might even be good for recruiters (like you) to
start asking your candidates if they have an identical twin (and you can
"recruit" to them too [my free consulting tip to you, Dave, for today]).
The hot "identical twin" finding of a few years ago was about sexual
preference, in which, I understand, even some gay people, for some reason, 
don't like that conclusion. 
> This level of  happiness bears almost no statistical relation to
> education, income, professional achievement, marital status, or any other
> quality. The authors of this study indicate that "those caught up in low
> status jobs have just as much chance of being happy as University
> Professors, Journalists, or Billionaires."
Once a year, for many years, the Sunday Magazine in the Balto Sun and Wash
Post do a thing about people making anything from 8,000 per year up to
millions per year and whatdya know, they're all happy. I'd say it was a
sellected population. In real life, I've talked to and overheard
conversations from people down the hall, etc., of a range of feelings 
jealousies, envy, to self-denial, self-pity.  
> Could this be the difference we
> see every week on sci.research.careers in those who love their work versus
> those who seemingly would love to be doing something else? 
I think some fraction of the people who show up on s.r.c. are people who
have run into a setback in their lives and are looking for answers, hints,
ideas on what to do next. Some are trying to make money and self promote
(I won't mention any names). Some have had no setbacks in their lives and
are looking for answers, ideas, etc.. Some are doing more-or-less OK but
are getting tired of their jobs (after X years). This happens in marriages
with ones spouse, too (the divorce statistics show this). Another fraction
of the people who show up on s.r.c had bad experiences or have seen
others have bad experiences and are trying to balance out the overall
perspective.
> Dave
> 
> 
> PS - One of the final comments in the article was from Dr. Lykken, who
> indicated another tidbit to come out of their results. "An optimistic
> state of mind is a prerequisite to obtaining such things as food, shelter,
> social support, and mating opportunities. Positive moods may motivate
> human sociability, exploration, and creativity and produce a stronger
> immune response to infections."
I read articles from time to time about the homeless. The people who live
in subway tubes, cardboard boxes, and under bridges. Of course, it is said
that 1/3 of them are mentally ill. I'd ask you if they get that way out of
volition or voluntary choice? I had close contact with a happy family that
was full of energy and enthusiasm and success until a serious medical
disaster hit and there was no "coverage." In a couple of years, they were
on the skids (attitude, mood, enthusiasm, etc., all went "poof"). Got any
ideas on what they could do? My wife deals with some of these people on a
regular basis and she's outstanding in finding resources, but there are
some that slip through the cracks. What do you do for people who are in
circumstances beyond their control? Or do you think this is impossible?
By the way, I'm not just "chewing on you," Dave, I'm serious.
Art Sowers 
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Subject: Post-Doc Positions, Analytical Chem, Chromatography
From: WH Robins
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 14:19:18 -0700
I am looking for 1 to 4 post-docs with strong backgrounds in capillary
chromatography especially GC.  The post-doc positions are 1 to 2 year
fellowships in the low 30K/year stipend area.  (For the lawyers)  This
is not an offer for a job nor any type of promise of consideration for a
job.  I do not have the authority to offer anyone a job of any type.
The Job:
Design, build, modify and/or develop multidimensional chromatography
systems based around gas chromatography.  We are in the process of
building several GC/GCs, LC/GCs and SFC/GCs.  The job is not, nor will
ever lead to, a management position.  The successful applicant will
spend 80% of their time in a laboratory and 15% of the time doing
graphics to support presentations.  Only 5% of the time will be spent in
an office doing paper work.  We have no technicians, the individual
researchers does his/her own work.  The post-doc positions are not
permanent staff positions.  Historically, less than 30% of the post-docs
are offered permanent staff positions.  Thus while it is possible that a
successful candidate may be offered a permanent position, it is not
guaranteed nor the most likely outcome, of the post-doctoral fellowship
program.
Requirements:
Ph.D. in analytical or physical chemistry with strong background in
capillary chromatography.  “Real World” (outside of the university)
experience a plus.
Location:
The Hanford Site in the south eastern corner of the state of
Washington.  There are no pine trees in this part of the state of
Washington, it is a desert.  We have sagebrush, tumbleweeds and
sandstorms.  So if you are thinking of the Seattle side of the
mountains, you will be very wrong.  There are only 100,000 people in the
local area, so think of a small bedroom community.  We have one, bad
mall, 10 movie theaters and the usual Safeways, Albertsons, K-Marts
etc.  If you like living in a small town, you will like it here.  If you
want a big city you will be very unhappy.
What to Send:
Send your resume to:  Bill Robins,  E-Mail address  Igor@owt.com in
either clear text or as Word 6.0 file and I’ll read it.  NO GUARANTEES
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.  Please include your e-mail address and phone number
so that if I want to contact you, I can.
Good luck finding a job.  I hope everyone finds a position they like.
Bill
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: Don Overton
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:10:29 -0600
Shawn E Trokhan wrote:
> 
> Did you know that Vanderbilt is the same price as Princeton?  You think
> Ivy schools are overpriced, but other private schools are just as much.
> 
> I think it is a deal.
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Subject: Re: Ivy League - The Bottom Line
From: Don Overton
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:10:47 -0600
Jason & Kathy Evans wrote:
> 
>     Do any of you really know what the Ivy League is?
> 
>     It is a group of schools that agreed to compete against each other
> in academics in a variety of sports. THAT IS IT!! NOTHING ELSE!!
> 
>     Yes, it does happen that all the schools in this league are
> excellent academic schools... but that is not what makes them be part
> of the Ivy League. They are the Ivy League because they play sports
> against each other in the same conference. Just like Duke, UNC,
> Clemson, Virginia, ect are all in the ACC.
> 
>     If Princeton suddenly decided it would no longer compete in any
> sports, it would no longer be in the Ivy League.
> 
>     End of story... end of thread. Please!!!
> 
>         -- Jason.
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: Don Overton
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:10:08 -0600
Gary F. Hatke wrote:
> 
> Rebecca L. Miller wrote:
> 
> > Shame on you Kyle, both for being such a prick, and
> > for not reading your Uncle Ezra
> > (http://www.cornell.edu/Dialogs/EZRA.html).
> >
> -snip-
> 
> > ***Excerpt from Uncle Ezra archives***
> >
> > (Harper & Row) in the Uris Library reference
> > section, about a century
> > ago four schools -- Harvard, Yale, Columbia, and
> > Princeton -- formed
> > an inter-scholastic league for athletic competition.
> > "This league was
> > known officially as the 'Four League' but, in the
> > academic tradition
> > of the day, the Roman numeral 'IV' was used.  You
> > can see this on
> > trophies of these schools dating well back into the
> > last
> > century....When referred to vocally it became the
> > 'Ivy League'.
> >
> -snip again-
> 
> > Uncle Ezra
> >
> >
> 
> Unfortunately, Old Uncle Ezra is reiterating one of the common Urban
> Legends that make their way around concerning the Ivy League. This one
> has unique appeal in that it places school 'X' (where 'X' can be any of
> the non-Harvard-Princeton-Yale Ivies) in with the HYP crowd. I have
> heard it where 'X' was Penn, and now Columbia. Sad to say, it ain't
> so. The story that seems to have the most credence about the origin
> of the term 'Ivy League' is that a New York sportswriter (I forget
> his name) during the 20's used the term in a description of the
> loose group of schools which were then Football powerhouses. And yes,
> the Ivy in his 'Ivy League' WAS referring to the plants on the walls.
> 
> Maybe Uncle Ezra should read some Poor Richard for his information.
> 
> Dr. Gary F. Hatke
> Advanced Techniques Group
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> Lexington, MA
> 
> hatke@ll.mit.edu
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: dcs2e@darwin.clas.virginia.edu (David Swanson)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:16:28 GMT
In article 
"Arthur E. Sowers"  writes:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, David Swanson wrote:
> 
> > In article <51calf$8a8_001@fi.smart.net>
> > fi@oceanstar.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
> > 
> > > When I was choosin' a college, I had the priorities of 
> > > an 18-year-old aesthete.  I applied to several Ivy League
> > > schools, and no others, and then chose which school to go
> > > to based on which had the cutest guys and the coolest-looking
> > > campus.  (You're welcome to try to guess which one that
> > > was.)  I quite literally walked around various Ivy campuses,
> > > taking notes on the guys and the buildings and the trees.
> > > 
> > > Why did I apply only to Ivy League schools?  Because
> > > I lived in Houston, Texas, and I wanted to escape the grip 
> > > of my family by going to the Northeast, and the only way I 
> > > could persuade my parents to send me that far, was to go 
> > > Ivy League.  (My parents were intellectual snobs.)
> > > 
> > > My scheme worked -- so that was the value of the Ivy 
> > > League, for me.  I also met a cute guy there, and married 
> > > him.  We're still married, 18 years later.
> > > 
> > >                                 --Fiona 
> > 
> > Can I just applaud this post.  It's interesting, autobiographical,
> > honest, and "sexist" and "superficial" as all hell.  And I mean that in
> > the best possible sense.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > "Seeing something simply in its being-thus - irreparable, but not for
> > that reason necessary; thus, but not for that reason contingent - is
> > love."  Agamben
> > 
> > 
> 
> I thought the post was one of the best in the thread
> 
> 
Is this a disagreement?  I did too.  I am not being sarcastic.  There
are no smilies, no emoticons, anywhere near here.  I APPROVE of this
sexism and superficiality.  Fiona disapproves of it.
David
"Seeing something simply in its being-thus - irreparable, but not for
that reason necessary; thus, but not for that reason contingent - is
love."  Agamben
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Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter
From: davej@sedona.net (Dave Jensen)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:15:35 GMT
In article ,
"Arthur E. Sowers"  wrote:
>What do you do for people who are in
>circumstances beyond their control? Or do you think this is impossible?
>
>By the way, I'm not just "chewing on you," Dave, I'm serious.
>
>Art Sowers 
Art - The two psychologists made some comment in the article I referred to
that folks who go through tragic circumstances have an uncanny knack of
putting themselves back on the "happiness meter" at about the same setting
they were on before the event.
It may be a weird example, but they suggested that Christopher Reeve was
back at the same happiness set point that he had before he fell off the
horse. In the study they did, they found that it took about six months for
an adjustment to be made.
There have been homeless people who were "readjusted" to new homes and
who, a few months later, were found back on the street. 
I have no personal explanation for this, other than it seems to fit the
concepts that those two scientists had proposed.
Dave
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Subject: Re: Ivy League - The Bottom Line
From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:46:54 GMT
I can't believe this.
People from Ivy league schools are obviously a bunch of overbearing and
pompous a** holes who have an overly inflated opinion of themselves and
obviously believe that the rest of the world really gives a damn about
them.
You don't see any of this crap from students at real schools like say Ohio
State or Michigan or even Notre Dame.
-- 
Michael Lee Barnes - also know as - the original Iridescent Mouse
                      E-mail barnes.87@osu.edu
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Subject: Re: Ivy League vs. Other Schools (end this thread!!)
From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:46:33 GMT
I can't believe this.
People from Ivy league schools are obviously a bunch of overbearing and
pompous a** holes who have an overly inflated opinion of themselves and
obviously believe that the rest of the world really gives a damn about
them.
You don't see any of this crap from students at real schools like say Ohio
State or Michigan or even Notre Dame.
-- 
Michael Lee Barnes - also know as - the original Iridescent Mouse
                      E-mail barnes.87@osu.edu
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Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter
From: bhat@news.cs.columbia.edu (Dinkar N Bhat)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 19:48:55 -0400
In article ,
Dave Jensen  wrote:
>I just finished an interesting article in Newsweek Magazine, July 29th '96
>issue, on a topic which may stimulate discussion on this newsgroup beyond
>the "Ivy League" thread (which has become quite boring).
>
>Two psychologists at the University of Michigan, Drs. D. Lykken and A.
>Tellegen, have completed a lengthy study of over 2,000 identical twins
>born between 1936 and 1955. They were wondering if perhaps the ability to
>be happy was somehow genetic. According to them, it is. What they found
>was that this ability is set in each person by what they call a "Happiness
>Set Point."  Evidently, researchers are now finding that happiness is
>governed by a preset value to which it invariably returns, in the same way
>that many scientists now feel that a metabolic set point determines one's
>weight.  Some researchers are following this study to determine if the set
>point is related to levels of the brain chemical, dopamine.
>
Actually,  this article appeared initially in the NY Times, July 16th
titled "Forget Money- nothing can buy happiness". The article ends
with a recipe for happiness which says that it is better to enjoy 
small things which give happiness continuously (like having a
good meal, gardening, meeting friends etc), rather than trying
to achieve something lofty which would give a major high albeit for
a short duration.
-DInkar
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:44:43 GMT
I can't believe this.
People from Ivy league schools are obviously a bunch of overbearing and
pompous a** holes who have an overly inflated opinion of themselves and
obviously believe that the rest of the world really gives a damn about
them.
You don't see any of this crap from students at real schools like say Ohio
State or Michigan or even Notre Dame.
-- 
Michael Lee Barnes - also know as - the original Iridescent Mouse
                      E-mail barnes.87@osu.edu
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: barnes.87@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Barnes)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 23:45:11 GMT
I can't believe this.
People from Ivy league schools are obviously a bunch of overbearing and
pompous a** holes who have an overly inflated opinion of themselves and
obviously believe that the rest of the world really gives a damn about
them.
You don't see any of this crap from students at real schools like say Ohio
State or Michigan or even Notre Dame.
-- 
Michael Lee Barnes - also know as - the original Iridescent Mouse
                      E-mail barnes.87@osu.edu
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Subject: Re: tactics/ethics for accepting offers
From: robert.macy@engineers.com (Robert Macy)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:05:00 GMT
JRM>From: jmccown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R McCown)
JRM>There is also the opposite extreme to a signing bonus: the quitting penalty
JRM>New hires at EDS are required to sign a note that makes them liable to the
JRM>company in the amount of $10,000 if they quit or get fired within their fir
JRM>two years at the company. Of course, this practice was instituted back when
JRM>Ross Perot owned the company.
Wow!  If you quit, you're punished.  If you're fired, you're punished!
Wow. Talk about win-win for the company!
That contract (in my opinion) should not have been enforceable based
upon its total one sidedness.
Most employees get a 90 day probation period.  During that time the
company can fire any new employee without any recourse from laws.
It makes sense to me to have an employee sign a form that says if they
quit in that probationary time (90 days), the employee is liable for the
lost hiring costs. But everyone can see that an employee that really
wanted to leave only had to "cause" the company to fire him.  So this
seems like another unenforceable contract.
During Perot's ownership, hmmmm....shows a real insight into that guy's
respect for working people, eh?
                                           - Robert -
                                    robert.macy@engineers.com
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Work to become, not to acquire. - Confucious
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Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter
From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:16:12 -0400
On 15 Sep 1996, Dave Jensen wrote:
> In article ,
> "Arthur E. Sowers"  wrote:
> 
> >What do you do for people who are in
> >circumstances beyond their control? Or do you think this is impossible?
> >
> >By the way, I'm not just "chewing on you," Dave, I'm serious.
> >
> >Art Sowers 
> 
> 
> Art - The two psychologists made some comment in the article I referred to
> that folks who go through tragic circumstances have an uncanny knack of
> putting themselves back on the "happiness meter" at about the same setting
> they were on before the event.
Well, I think there is some population sellection going on because I know
of a number of people where the fall off the train and never get back on.
I notice this and have seen articles, journal papers, and personal
contacts. 
> It may be a weird example, but they suggested that Christopher Reeve was
> back at the same happiness set point that he had before he fell off the
> horse. In the study they did, they found that it took about six months for
> an adjustment to be made.
Well, there is an example of someone who has resources that a lot of us
probably don't have. I can't remember who it was but there was a movie
star discussed in a newspaper article who had a meteoric ascent, ran into
some kind of mental problems, and then a meteroric descent and is now in
an assylum. I don't remember CR's specifics, but if they have full
recoveries, then I'm not surprized that they come back. All you have to do
is read, as I often but not always do, the kiss-and-tell stories in the
sunday magazine. Often they are success stories, but a lot end on a more
somber note. Occassionally, people are "beaten" by some event. I know of
several that just refuse to discuss their situations with ANYone. Hence,
you don't hear these. Not only that, but a lot of these newspaper
reporters, etc., would rather have upbeat, success stories and so you have
another bias against publishing them. HOWEVER, a lot of social services
organizations with positive themes have materialized in the last two
decades which have brought awareness to a particular probelm (domestic
violence, alcoholism, etc) by making it OK to talk about these things, and
set up infrastructures to deal with them. I have the sense that this DOES
do some good.
> There have been homeless people who were "readjusted" to new homes and
> who, a few months later, were found back on the street. 
It seems to be analogous to the "recidivism" problem. I have a friend
whose church took in four alcoholic homeless and really worked hard with
them and they all flopped at the end. Some problems appear to be
unsolvable, no? 
> I have no personal explanation for this, other than it seems to fit the
> concepts that those two scientists had proposed.
Well, if you want to subscribe to the "self fulfilling prophesy" line,
then, yes, I guess it does. The "unhappy" go back to their "unhappy" set
point. But, conversely, I've heard of cases where people who were in the
pits at some earlier point in life had some kind of uplifting experience
and that changed their lives. A case which was mentioned on TV some years
ago: Jimmy Carter runs a Habitat for Humanity which helps poor people
build their own house at the same time that they learn a skill (building a
house). They said that for a large number of people that they help, it
turns around their whole attitude and they talk about all kinds of
positive things, including sending their kids to college. Now, I would say
that that example fits in with YOUR "positive attitude" line, but not
your two scientists line of thinking. Me: I'm just playing devil's
advocate.
> Dave
> 
> 
Art Sowers
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Subject: Re: Post-Doc Positions, Analytical Chem, Chromatography
From: fweesner (Forrest Weesner)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 01:29:53 GMT
That is the most honest job posting I've every seen, and probably ever
will see.  But I've visited tri-cities, and it's not THAT bad.
Forrest Weesner
fweesner@students.wisc.edu
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Subject: Ivy memories
From: woodruff@metrolink.net (Trent Woodruff)
Date: 16 Sep 96 02:44:40 GMT
>Michael Barnes was cut from Rice for saying...
>I can't believe this.
>People from Ivy league schools are obviously a bunch of overbearing and
>pompous a** holes who have an overly inflated opinion of themselves and
>obviously believe that the rest of the world really gives a damn about
>them.
>You don't see any of this crap from students at real schools like say Ohio
>State or Michigan or even Notre Dame.
Or Texas or Texas A&M;!
(Oh...wait a minute...)
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Subject: RESUME: Research Scientist * AIDS * R&D; * LIS * QA/QC
From: krokos@ix.netcom.com (Christopher Krokos *USA*)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:31:24 GMT
CHRISTOPHER A KROKOS
Connecticut, United States
Tel/Fax: 203-937-6115
E-mail: krokos@ix.netcom.com
OBJECTIVE
Project Management position in Diagnostic or Pharmaceutical Industry
QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERTISE
BS Degree in Medical Technology, The College for Medical Technologists
in Szczecin, Poland.  Project Management, Laboratory Information
Systems, Clinical Diagnostics, Research & Development, IBM Personal
Computers, Global Electronic Networks.  Two products successfully
introduced to the market.
SPECIFIC SKILLS INCLUDE:
* Project Management, Research and Analysis
* IBM Personal Computers
* Computer based data analysis
* Internet Network (WWW, Gopher, FTP, E-mail)
* On-Line/Off-Line Database Search
* Electronic and Paper Documentation, Databases
* Device and Clinical Evaluation
* Purchasing (Equipment, Computers, Chemicals)
* Clinical Research Trials
* FDA regulations incl. cGMP, GLP's, etc.,
* Clinical tests development and validation
* Southern and Western Analysis
* Primary cell isolation and culture
* Immunoassay, ELISA and Bioassays
* Computer Software (MsOffice, Paradox, etc.)
* Isolation of RNA and proteins
MANAGEMENT AND ORGANIZATIONAL SKILLS
Trained research and laboratory staff to provide a full range of
support to the organization.
Established two (2) Diagnostic Laboratories in Europe and two (2)
HIV/AIDS Research/Diagnostic Facilities in the United States.
Directed preparation of Laboratory SOP's (Standard Operating
Procedures) and QA/QC Protocols.
Managed Laboratory operations.  Familiar with FDA regulations, cGMP's
(Current Good Manufacturing Practice Standards) and GLP's (Good
Laboratory Practice Standards).
Directed scientific computer cluster.  Coordinated Computer Support
Unit.  Maintained integrity of Hardware and Software.
Provided technical, marketing and development assistance to the
Company and Customers.
Established the Internet Network, On-Line Information Access,
Worldwide connectivity, Data transfer and Database searches.
Coordinated inter-departmental activities and solved production
Problems.
Participated in external and internal management, communication and
teambuilding seminars.
Administered purchases of equipment, computers, software, chemicals,
office supplies, etc.,
Supervised disposal of Biohazard, Radioactive and Hazardous Materials.
Interpreted Environmental Laws and State Regulations.
Provided assistance on International issues. Solved shipment problems
of Biological Materials across Canadian-US border.
Consulted on software, Clinical Information Systems, worldwide
electronic transfer of information, database searches, global sourcing
of information, system safety and security, etc.,
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE
DIANON Systems Inc., Stratford, CT..........................1992-1996
RESEARCH SCIENTIST, Research and Development
Project Management, Development of Commercial Diagnostic Tests for
Cancer.
Introduced PSA II Test and RT-PCR for PSA as a staging modality for
metastatic prostate cancer to the clinical marketplace, resulting in a
60% sales increase in product line.
Designed QC/QA and SOP's.  Reduced the Time of technology transfer
from R&D; to Production.
Incorporated the Internet Network and established electronic access to
the Libraries, Universities and Corporations worldwide.
Consulted on Software, Information, Databases, FTP-the remote File
Transfer, Security, and On-Line Database Search.
Columbia University, New York City, NY.......................1989-1992
RESEARCH ASSOCIATE, Infectious Diseases (HIV/AIDS)
Established HIV/AIDS Laboratory. Managed Laboratory daily operations,
QC/QA, designed SOP's.
Received NIH certification to perform HIV culture and p24 antigen
assays through the QC/QA program of the Virologic Reference Laboratory
(VRL) for the AIDS Clinical Trails Group.
Improved HIV culture sensitivity and percentage positive detection
markedly over reference test methods. Met contract specifications for
HIV isolations from NIH Clinical Trial Samples.
Managed AIDS Clinical Trial Testing and Data Collection System for
WITS Study.  Supervised Laboratory Information Systems.
State University of New York, Brooklyn, NY...................1988-1989
TECHNICAL SPECIALIST, Virological Diagnostics
Supervised diagnostic virological and serological tests such as
Adenovirus, Cytomegalovirus, Herpes Simplex, Influenza, Respiratory
Syncytial and Varicella Zoster Viruses.
University of Nebraska Medical Center, Omaha, NE 
and Columbia University......................................1985-1988
MANAGER, Molecular Virology Laboratory (HIV)
Managed Laboratory operations, a $2.5 Million Research Project.
Administered a group of 15 scientists.
Managed purchases for major Laboratory equipment, computers and
chemicals.  Established and Managed HealthCare Information Systems.
Managed recombinant DNA and Plasmid Bank. Supervised Laboratory
Radiation and Fire Safety, oversaw GLP's and prepared SOP's, QC/QA.
Guided proper AIDS virus handling procedures, and disposal of AIDS
contaminated materials.
Directed the Transfer of the entire HIV Laboratory (equipment,
reagents, viruses, cell cultures, computers and staff) from Omaha, NE
to New York City.
Established a new functional Molecular Virology Laboratory (MVL) at
Columbia University, recognized as one of the best arranged and
equipped HIV Laboratories in the United States.
LABORATORY EXPERIENCE
Cell and tissue culture, light and fluorescence microscopy,
photography, antibody modification and small animal work.
Molecular biology techniques such as RNA extraction, c-DNA Synthesis
by Reverse Transcription, Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR), agarose gel
electrophoresis, probe labeling.
Southern blotting and the propagation and isolation of plasmids and
DNA.
Routine hematology, clinical biochemistry and urinalysis.
COMPUTER SKILLS
IBM Personal Computers, The Internet and various Computer Software.
Remote data and file transfer in any size and format. Computer
Security, Networking, E-mail, Information, Faxing, On-Line/Off-Line
Database Search, etc.
SOFTWARE
Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Power Point, Access), Paradox,
Quattro-Pro, Microsoft Publisher, Avery Label PRO, Lotus 1-2-3,
Delta Graph, Corel Draw, Lotus Freelance Graphics, Word Perfect,
Ami-Pro, Aldus Page Maker, File Maker PRO, Q Modem, WinFax
PRO, ProcommPlus, Harvard Graphics, Sigma Plot, Netscape Navigator,
Eudora, Agent, Ecco PRO, etc.,
INSTRUMENTATION
Gamma counter, liquid scintillation counter, light and fluorescence
microscopy, ELISA plate reader, IBM personal computers, Abbott
TDX Analyzer, TECAN Automated Robotic Liquid Processor, Abbott QUANTUM
II Analyzer, PRO/PETT Automated Liquid-Handling System, Abbott
PRO-QUANTUM Automated Washer, Source EXEC-WASH Automated Wash System,
TOSOH AIA-1200 Fully Automated Enzyme Immunoassay System.
CONTINUING EDUCATION
Paradox for Windows School, Personal Computer Learning Centers of
America, Inc., (PCLC), 1995,
TOSOH AIA-1200 Analyzer, Fully Automated Enzyme Immunoassay System -
Training, 1994.
Paradox Software School, Center for Professional Computer Education
(CPCE), 1993
ASCP Conference Series: "Prostate Specific Antigen. Understanding and
Evaluating Assay Performance", American Society of Clinical
Pathologists, 1993.
Managing Multiple Projects, Objectives and Deadlines, SkillPath
Seminar, Inc., 1993.
IBM Personal Computer Course, Columbia University in New York City,
1990.
Laboratory Radiation Safety Training, University of Nebraska Medical
Center, 1986.
BIBLIOGRAPHY 
Sano, Y., Krokos, C.A., and Townley, R.  Identification of
Alpha-Adrenergic Receptors in Human Lymphocytes: Values in Normals and
Asthmatics. Presented at annual meeting of American Academy of
Allergy. January 1981.
Cheng, J.B., Cheng, E., Krokos, C.A., and Townley, R.G. Effects of
Serineborate complex on the ability of Leukotrienes to inhibit 3H
LTD4 and 3H LTC4 binding. Presented at the annual meeting of
Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology. April 1984.
Sano, Y., Krokos, C., Cheng, J.B., Bewtra, A. and Townley, R.G.
Comparison of alpha and beta-Adrenergic receptors in asthmatics and
controls: Identification and characterization of alpha-Adrenergic
receptors in human lymphocytes. American Federation for Clinical
Research, 1984.
Mirvish, S.S., Makary, M., Ji, C., Krokos, C., and Schut, H.A.J.
Studies on metabolism of and DNA alkylation by the Esophageal
carcinogen methyl-n-amylnitrosamine (MNAN). December 1985.
Mirvish, S.S., Ji.C., Makary, M., Schut, H.A.J., and Krokos, C.
Metabolism of the Oesophageal carcinogen n-nitrosomethylamylamine:
changes with age, clearance from blood and DNA alkylation. September
1986.
Hanausek, M., Walaszek, Z., Wang, S., Mirowski, M., Krokos, C.,
Soriano, T.F. The accurate detection of breast cancer with a new tumor
marker (p65). American Association for Cancer Research, 1994.
Hanausek, M., Mirowski, M., Walaszek, Z., Wang, S., Krokos, C.,
Soriano, T.  A new tumor marker (p65) aids in the accurate detection
of prostate cancer. American Association for Cancer Research, 1994.
Wang, S., Hanausek, M., Walaszek, Z., Mirowski, M., Krokos, C.,
Soriano, T. A new tumor marker (p65) facilitates the accurate
detection of colorectal cancer.  American Association for Cancer
Research, 1994.
Lehrer, S., Terk, M., Song, H.K., Lavagnini, P., Luderer, A.L., Linn,
J.A., Krokos, C.A., and Piccoli, S.P. Reverse Transcriptase-Polymerase
Chain Reacvtion for Prostate Specific Antigen Maybe a Prognostic
Indicator in Breast Cancer.  Submitted  1995.
======================================================================
Christopher A Krokos   *USA*
E-mail: krokos@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: Don Overton
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 19:03:11 -0600
David Swanson wrote:
> 
> In article 
> "Arthur E. Sowers"  writes:
> 
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, David Swanson wrote:
> >
> > > In article <51calf$8a8_001@fi.smart.net>
> > > fi@oceanstar.com (Fiona Webster) writes:
> > >
> > > > When I was choosin' a college, I had the priorities of
> > > > an 18-year-old aesthete.  I applied to several Ivy League
> > > > schools, and no others, and then chose which school to go
> > > > to based on which had the cutest guys and the coolest-looking
> > > > campus.  (You're welcome to try to guess which one that
> > > > was.)  I quite literally walked around various Ivy campuses,
> > > > taking notes on the guys and the buildings and the trees.
> > > >
> > > > Why did I apply only to Ivy League schools?  Because
> > > > I lived in Houston, Texas, and I wanted to escape the grip
> > > > of my family by going to the Northeast, and the only way I
> > > > could persuade my parents to send me that far, was to go
> > > > Ivy League.  (My parents were intellectual snobs.)
> > > >
> > > > My scheme worked -- so that was the value of the Ivy
> > > > League, for me.  I also met a cute guy there, and married
> > > > him.  We're still married, 18 years later.
> > > >
> > > >                                 --Fiona
> > >
> > > Can I just applaud this post.  It's interesting, autobiographical,
> > > honest, and "sexist" and "superficial" as all hell.  And I mean that in
> > > the best possible sense.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > "Seeing something simply in its being-thus - irreparable, but not for
> > > that reason necessary; thus, but not for that reason contingent - is
> > > love."  Agamben
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I thought the post was one of the best in the thread
> >
> >
> 
> Is this a disagreement?  I did too.  I am not being sarcastic.  There
> are no smilies, no emoticons, anywhere near here.  I APPROVE of this
> sexism and superficiality.  Fiona disapproves of it.
> 
> David
> 
> "Seeing something simply in its being-thus - irreparable, but not for
> that reason necessary; thus, but not for that reason contingent - is
> love."  Agamben
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Subject: Re: The Happiness Meter
From: fweesner (Forrest Weesner)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 02:03:06 GMT
In article , davej@sedona.net
(Dave Jensen) wrote:
> Two psychologists at the University of Michigan, Drs. D. Lykken and A.
> Tellegen, have completed a lengthy study of over 2,000 identical twins
-snip-
> This level of  happiness bears almost no statistical relation to
> education, income, professional achievement, marital status, or any other
> quality. The authors of this study indicate that "those caught up in low
> status jobs have just as much chance of being happy as University
> Professors, Journalists, or Billionaires." Could this be the difference we
> see every week on sci.research.careers in those who love their work versus
> those who seemingly would love to be doing something else? 
Contrary Dave's analysis, seems to me the study's conclusion is it doesn't
matter at all what you do for work.  If you are predisposed (genetics,
upbringing, whatever etc.) to be a complainer/hand wringer you'll express
those characteristics pumping gas or running a research program. 
Switching careers won't help.  If you are well adjusted and have a
positive life outlook, that comes through regardless also.  This seems to
be a call for a unsatisfied people to take a very hard look at their
personal psycology as well as their job situation.  Of course if your in a
really bad situation - being sexual harrased, for an extreme example - you
need a change.  Otherwise the search for "what you love" might well be
Quixotic.
Forrest Weesner
fweesner@students.wisc.edu
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Subject: Neutralize Nuclear Waste
From: LULU
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:09:49 -0700
Dear Friends:
We have been associates of this group for the last eight years and have
seen how the government has totally ignored -- and downright suppressed
-- the availability of these technologies to better the world.
We are sending you this invitation to please attend this rally, witness
for yourself and disseminate the information to your friends /
subscribers.
When you go to the show, you must present a copy of this ad (last page
of this fax) to the sign-up people at the entrance.
                                Thank you,
                                John Ohm & Marylou Walker
                                P.O. BOX 11962, RENO, NV 89510
_________________
              UNITED COMMUNITY SERVICES OF AMERICA
              3002 Route 23 North, Newfoundland, NJ 07435
Dear Friends:
Something incredible has happened to us! It is beyond my expectations at
this point and is worth every one of us dropping everything else to
concentrate on.
Professor Yull  Brown has the technology to neutralize radioactive
waste. Right now there is a location in  the United States where, if
there were a nuclear mishap, every living thing in all of the United
States, Canada, and Mexico would be totally wiped out! This is very
serious. The  government of this country has put everyone in this
country at great risk. Professor Brown has proof of what I am saying,
and he is prepared to present it to the people of this country.
As you know, Better World Technology has been promoting Professor
Brown's technology on this national tour. We do have the "exclusive"
rights to sell Brown's Gas Machines in the United States. We were
shocked when Professor Brown showed up at our show in Las Vegas, sitting
in the front row. We had over a thousand people in the audience that
night. After I explained why I believe Professor Brown to be the most
important man in the world, I asked him to come up on stage. The
entire audience spontaneously rose to their feet in a standing ovation.
I have never been more proud of the American people! It deeply touched
Professor Brown, and I saw tears in his eyes. I had tried to get him not
to give up on the American people. He was so touched by that gesture,
that he did something I could never have expected. He announced that he
too would come to the last meeting on our tour in Philadelphia, and that
he intended to work with UCSA to neutralize all the nuclear waste in
this country!
Professor Yull Brown is willing to be at our Declaration of Energy
Independence on the 23rd of September in Philadelphia, and has
magnanimously offered to demonstrate his ability to neutralize
radioactive waste at our show! He will also bring a car engine that has
already been modified to run on Brown's Gas, and will demonstrate how to
pump water without any mechanical device (pump) at all. I believe that
he was so touched by the hearts of the crowd that he has decided that
even at the risk of his own life, he will do this.
The government is currently planning a 400 billion dollar rip off of the
American people, working with the private sector to find a way to safely
store the nuclear waste in dump sites. They may get a little upset at
the idea that we, with Brown, could eliminate the need for storage of
waste. We have to get a lot of the American people to attend this last
show to protect our friend. If he is going to do this along with the
other things we had planned to demonstrate, this is the biggest news to
hit this country over the last century!
After the show in Vegas, Professor Brown and I went out for breakfast,
and I agreed to rent a stadium in Philadelphia and to try all in my
power to pack it with people. I saw his reaction when 1,000 people
applauded his capability, and a stadium of people would so strongly
capture his heart as to completely captivate him, I believe. He agreed
to be there. I think that packing that stadium is the most important
thing we could ever do. It is time! If we can pull this off, we can
be catapulted ahead in ways that are unimaginable. I intend to pull out
all the stops and do exactly that!  We found the stadium. It is called
the CoreStates Center at the Spectrum.  The address is 3601 South Broad
Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It is the place where the
Philadelphia Flyers play hockey. It is also the place where the
Philadelphia 76ers play basketball. The place seats 19,000 witnesses.
There are four huge screens to show close-ups of what is happening on
the stage. We need to pack it, and there is little time to do that.
We are doing a mailing to all the dealers and to all the people that
came to our shows on both tours this year.  We need the dealers to help
us get this tremendous job done. If we can pull this off, we will have
Prof. Brown's undivided attention and respect, as well as one tremendous
amount of momentum in our project. This will be the biggest thing that
has ever been done to end the suppression of technologies in the history
of this country!  It will pretty much assure the success of our project.
Filling that stadium will certainly be a mandate from the people, and
everyone who comes will have a chance to sign the Declaration of Energy
Independence. They will also all get a free electricity device on their
home at no cost to buy and no cost for all their electricity. That is
a pretty good reason for them to come. On the other hand, if we have a
stadium that seats 19,000 and only a few thousand people come, it will
hurt our relationship with Brown, and not only cost us a lot of money we
cannot afford to lose, but it will end our tour as a joke rather than a
mandate from the people.
Here's what we need from each of you. Do whatever you can to promote
this event  and get people to go to it. Go to it yourself if that is
humanly possible.  Promote this show as if your life depended on it,
because it just may. By the way, the historic demonstration of
neutralizing radioactive waste will be perfectly safe and will be
supervised by nuclear physicists and done in a proper fashion.  Get
on the internet, or the radio, or anything you know of. If there ever
was a time to network, it is now and I do mean NOW! We will give you a
copy of the ad we are going to run as a full page in the USA Today East
Coast Edition.  Feel free to use it or do whatever else you can to
promote this event.  There is little time remaining before the 23rd of
September.  It has to be done at that time, so we just have to pull this
thing off. We will have a bus run from the location we were going to
have for the show and the hockey stadium it is in now so people that do
not get the word will not miss the event. It will start at 7:30 PM for
that reason. There will be all kinds of things at this show you have
never seen before. There will be little talk and lots more demonstrating
hardware. You will be very happy to see what we have in store for
the Declaration of Independence from technology suppression in America.
The show will be fantastic no matter how many people show up, but we
need witnesses so there will be no dirty politics.
There is another thing we must do in order to pull this off. We are very
shorthanded. This has come up unexpectedly. I never expected Brown to
fall in love with our project in Vegas and make the shocking
announcement that he was going to work with us to eliminate nuclear
waste in this country, but he did, and by George, we will try to earn
his faith in us! Our staff is small, and we are very limited in what we
can do this month.
If we are to pull off all sorts of unplanned mailings and get full page
ads in the east coast papers, as well as plan to occupy a huge stadium,
we are going to be too busy to service the dealers with videos and
brochures of products, or even to supply you.  We have to put the
dealership on hold until the 24th. We cannot do both.  I am sorry we
have to put everything on hold, but please understand what a challenge
this is for all of us.
So, please, do all you can to get to Philadelphia and to bring and
invite as many others as you can. This is it! There will never be a
better time to stand up for America and for this project. You may be
surprised at what comes out of this show! It will be like no other event
in our history, and this is your chance to be a part of it. If every
dealership got only 10 people to show up and came themselves, then the
stadium would be packed (about 1700 of the dealerships are owned by
someone that is interested and there are only 300 to be replaced
at this point. We believe in you guys and in God's ability to perform
miracles.  This will be one!
___________
              THE MOST IMPORTANT SHOW IN AMERICA
         ...is happening at 7:30 PM on September 23rd
at CoreStates Spectrum, 3601 S. Broad Street in Philadelphia
You might take a train... you might take a plane... but, if you have to
walk, you need to get there just the same.
          AMERICANS WILL DECLARE TOTAL ENERGY INDEPENCENCE!
For all those who come to this show:
°    You will be invited to sign up to get a new electric generator that
will give you all the energy for your  home at no operating cost. You
will not pay one cent to have it provided on your home or to operate
it... ever! Never pay an oil, gas or electric bill again!
 °    Sign up to have the existing engines in your vehicles modified to
run on free energy without gasoline or batteries ever again. We will
test the torque on a working model.
 °    Come see for yourself the technologies that have been suppressed
by the Department of Energy and the powerful self interest groups that
they serve.
 °    See dozens of working models of technologies that will shock you.
                     THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENT...
          THE MOST DANGEROUS OF ALL FORMS OF POLLUTION
                         IS NUCLEAR WASTE!
One pound of plutonium can wipe out every man, woman and child on this
planet... and it's lethal for 50,000 years! An average nuclear power
plant gets rid of 66,000 pounds per year and there is no fool proof way
to store it safely!
         COME AND WITNESS A TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN NEUTRALIZE
RADIOACTIVE WASTE AND MAKE IT TOTALLY HARMLESS! WE NEED LOTS
OF WITNESSES. There will be nuclear physicists present and we will
conclusively prove this can be done! Be a part of history. The
demonstration is totally safe, but since big business has planned to get
a 400 billion dollar contract to store this waste, WE NEED THE PEOPLE TO
COME TO PROTECT US WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE THIS PROCESS!!
     Dennis Lee, a direct descendant of Richard Henry Lee (the man that
called for the Declaration of Independence signed in Philadelphia) will
call for America's Declaration of Energy Independence at this show.
Please come and support our right to show you these breakthroughs to
stop the dirty politics that keep these technologies from the people. If
you don't believe now, come and see and you will! Come and be a signer
of the Declaration of Energy Independence.
 Better World Technology, 3002 Route 23 North, Newfoundland, NJ 07435
                INVITED BY MARYLOU WALKER/JOHN OHM
                 P.O. BOX 11962, RENO, NV 89510
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: cstone@math.math.unm.edu (Chris Stone)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 16:26:19 GMT
In article <323B547C.6D2F@ll.mit.edu>,
STEVEN BARTHAKUR   wrote:
>Cynthia Shiang-sheng Smith wrote:
>> As far as I know Columbia is not Ivy League.
>That's right and it's one of the few which doesn't have its head in the
>cloud. Part of the reason for this is that the school is located in NYC
>and is fully immersed in the activities of the city. In a way, some feel
>that this is a better environment for certain individuals because much of
>what needs to be learned in life happens out of a school's enclave and in
>the real world. 
Then again, some feel that New Yawk is hell on earth.
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: yvonne@alumni.stanford.org (Yvonne Lee)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:09:39 -0700
In article <51f6mb$q91@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, tilden4@aol.com (Tilden4) wrote:
> Generally speaking, Cornell is not thought of as an Ivy. JB
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, "generally speaking" Vanderbilt may not be thought of as an SEC,
Oregon State, as a Pac-10 team, FSU as an ACC team, etc., but they are.
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: cpellegr@emerald.tufts.edu (Cris Pellegrino)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 05:17:19 GMT
ooks,rec.org.mensa,rec.sport.golf,alt.education,misc.wanted,soc.college.financial,soc.men:
Followup-To:
rec.sport.swimming,k12.chat.teacher,rec.sport.basketball.college,alt.sports.college.ivy-league,alt.sports.darts,alt.feminism,sci.research.careers,soc.college.admissions,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.china,rec.sport.football.college,rec.arts.
books,rec.org.mensa,rec.sport.golf,alt.education,misc.wanted,soc.college.financial,soc.men:
References: <32346BF9.6E15@ix.netcom.com> <3234B0CA.71B3@ultranet.com> <3234B512.4C77@ll.mit.edu>
Distribution: 
Okay, if you are finally reading this, you are obviously interested in
this subject!
Let's remember what Ivy League is...It's a sports conference - NOTHING
MORE!!!!  Just because the members are rated as some of the best
Universities (overall, this doesn't mean thier undergraduate programs
are the best!) in the US, doesn't change this fact.  Many 
other colleges & universities in the US, particularly in the
Northeast have been asked to join the Ivy League.  From my knowledge, all
have declined due to the strict requirements.  Anyone who knows about
Tufts University would know that we would have no use for a 25,000+ seat
stadium, nor would we waste the money on it, which would be a requirement
of entering the Ivy League.  
So just remember, it's an athletic conference, and says nothing about the
education!
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: cynthias@ifi.uio.no (Cynthia Shiang-sheng Smith)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 09:06:17 +0200
In article <51edqg$fe6@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, krose@crypt.resnet.cornell.edu (Kyle R. Rose) writes:
> : about. My wife attended Cornell briefly, where the TA's main job is to
> : keep students from bothering the tenured faculty.  
> 
> I think this is a little unfair and a bit too generalized.  All Cornell
> professors are required to hold office hours, and most (but, honestly, not
> all) are happy to help students.  Again, this is in my experience.  The
> story may be a little different from the POV of a TA. 
I agree that this is unfair and generalized.  Of my 4 years at Cornell
(excluding my time in Denmark, of course :) I never ever had a problem
accessing a professor.  In fact, most, if not all of them were very happy if
students came to see them.
Cynthia S. Smith (Cornell '93)
http://www.sn.no/~csmith
http://www.ifi.uio.no/~cynthias
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: cynthias@ifi.uio.no (Cynthia Shiang-sheng Smith)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 09:09:15 +0200
In article <51f6mb$q91@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, tilden4@aol.com (Tilden4) writes:
> Generally speaking, Cornell is not thought of as an Ivy. JB
Why do you say that?
Cynthia S. Smith
http://www.sn.no/~csmith
http://www.ifi.uio.no/~cynthias
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