Subject: Re: Science Career Meeting in Costa Mesa, CA
From: davej@sedona.net (Dave Jensen)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 02:58:58 GMT
In article <19960917092756584882@dialup-m2-2.melbourne.netspace.net.au>,
agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (PM Agapow) wrote:
>Linda St. James wrote:
>
>> The Southern California chapter of the AACC will be presenting a Career
>> Day on Sept. 15th, at the location and times listed below.
>>
>> Dave Jensen, Managing Director of Search Masters International (Sedona,
>> AZ) will present the topic "Insiders Secrets to the New Science Job
>> Market." A brief abstract of this presentation follows:
>
>etc, etc.
>
>This sounds very interesting. For those of us who are physically unable
>to attend (due to being on the other side of the globe), could someone
>who attends post a summary?
>
>p-m
>
>paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au), La Trobe Uni, Australia
Paul
Glad that you posted this, because the date was wrong on that stupid
announcement. It is actually Sept. 21st, Saturday, at the Red Lion Hotel
in Costa Mesa, CA, and sponsored by the Amer. Assoc. for Clinical
Chemistry. Not that this news will get you to hop on a plane from
Australia!
I would be happy to post something afterward about what the six speakers
had to say about the current job market for scientists.
DGJ
Subject: Is a US post-doc a good idea?
From: m9303@abc.se (Tommy Anderberg)
Date: 14 Sep 1996 13:19:42 GMT
I have a friend over here on the old continent who will soon have to make
a decision about what to do after grad school. One possibility is a post-doc
in the US. There are some considerations which I don't expect anybody to be
able to help with (how this will affect future chances of getting a permanent
position back here, if spending 2-4 years on another continent really is such
an attractive idea, etc.) but there are also questions which many of you
probably could answer. This person has only been to the US for short visits,
so even basic things like "what are the costs of living", "what is a
typical post-doc salary (in physics)", "what are the normal duties of an
American post-doc in physics", "what is the relation vs. faculty members -
how independent can I be" etc. need to be answered.
Are there any Europeans now doing a post-doc in the US reading this n.g.? Your
feedback would be most appreciated!
Also, at the risk of starting another "my-school-is-better-than-yours"
fight, I'd like to ask what everybody thinks/knows about Northwestern
University (Evanston, IL) - especially the dept. of physics - as this is
one of the places where my friend would be most interested in going.
--
Tommy Anderberg
Tommy.Anderberg@abc.se
Subject: Re: Science Career Meeting in Costa Mesa, CA
From: agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (PM Agapow)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:27:56 +1000
Linda St. James wrote:
> The Southern California chapter of the AACC will be presenting a Career
> Day on Sept. 15th, at the location and times listed below.
>
> Dave Jensen, Managing Director of Search Masters International (Sedona,
> AZ) will present the topic "Insiders Secrets to the New Science Job
> Market." A brief abstract of this presentation follows:
etc, etc.
This sounds very interesting. For those of us who are physically unable
to attend (due to being on the other side of the globe), could someone
who attends post a summary?
p-m
paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au), La Trobe Uni, Australia
Subject: Re: does it ever pay to be a "whistle-blower?"
From: Post.To.NewsGroup.NOT@email.thanks (Troy Shinbrot)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:44:53 -0500
In article ,
"Arthur E. Sowers" wrote:
> > In any case, although "blowing the whistle" would certainly be the
> > ethical thing to do, it will also assuredly delay your career. Times
> > haven't changed much in this regard - as indicated by recent articles
> > in The Scientist and Science magazine.
>
> There is already much written on this topic. Most whistle-blowers suffer
> some form of retaliation. Even if your position is strong, and have
> impecable notes/evidence/documentation, there will be years going by while
> all kinds of administrative stalling will take place. This situation is
> even worse in the government and defense industry (viz. the literature on
> DoD-industry fraud).
I agree with all that has been said, but I would add that in academia,
"retaliation" is seldom necessary. In most subordinate positions, it is
absolutely mandatory to obtain a good reference from your superior
(advisor, mentor, department benefactor, whatever). If you irritate your
superior, your career is for all intents over, with no retaliation
required. Thus if your friend wants to blow the whistle, I recommend that
she wait until she has another position firmly and unambiguously in hand.
Her career may be compromised at that point, but it may not be crippled.
Good luck to you both.
-Troy
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Subject: Re: Science Career Meeting in Costa Mesa, CA
From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:57:05 -0400
On 17 Sep 1996, Dave Jensen wrote:
> In article <19960917092756584882@dialup-m2-2.melbourne.netspace.net.au>,
> agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (PM Agapow) wrote:
>
> >Linda St. James wrote:
> >
> >> The Southern California chapter of the AACC will be presenting a Career
> >> Day on Sept. 15th, at the location and times listed below.
> >>
> >> Dave Jensen, Managing Director of Search Masters International (Sedona,
> >> AZ) will present the topic "Insiders Secrets to the New Science Job
> >> Market." A brief abstract of this presentation follows:
> >
> >etc, etc.
> >
> >This sounds very interesting. For those of us who are physically unable
> >to attend (due to being on the other side of the globe), could someone
> >who attends post a summary?
> >
> >p-m
> >
> >paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au), La Trobe Uni, Australia
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> Glad that you posted this, because the date was wrong on that stupid
^^^^^^
?!?! ... Dave...how could you say such a negative thing about something
that came out of your office?? ;-)
> announcement. It is actually Sept. 21st, Saturday, at the Red Lion Hotel
> in Costa Mesa, CA, and sponsored by the Amer. Assoc. for Clinical
> Chemistry. Not that this news will get you to hop on a plane from
> Australia!
You know, not as many people know where the hell Costa Mesa is (southish
of Santa Ana & Longbeach, which are more southish of LA).
After all, you industry whips, should be aware of that (like, the guy who
won the ten year intermittent winsheild wiper patent fight with Detroit
lives in Queenstown, Maryland...you know where that is?).
> I would be happy to post something afterward about what the six speakers
> had to say about the current job market for scientists.
>
> DGJ
>
>
Art Sowers
Subject: Re: Ivy League - The Bottom Line
From: Randy Crawford
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 01:48:33 -0400
Michael Barnes wrote:
>
> People from Ivy league schools are obviously a bunch of overbearing and
> pompous a** holes who have an overly inflated opinion of themselves and
> obviously believe that the rest of the world really gives a damn about
> them.
>
> You don't see any of this crap from students at real schools like say Ohio
> State or Michigan or even Notre Dame.
I have degrees from Michigan State and Johns Hopkins. Am I real?
I've found that people's response to my degree from Hopkins is all out
of proportion to the merit due the program (computer science), meanwhile
they yawn at my degree from MSU. Does that really surprise you? If so,
why?
Almost everyone is insecure. Insecure people respond in awe to that
which
seems to be unattainable (whether that perception is valid or not).
Thus
far in this discussion, I've seen no one claim that all Ivy League
students
are more capable than all others, or that other schools do not offer
outstanding educations that sometimes improve on the Ivies (remember
CalTech,
MIT, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, UC Berkeley, Michigan, etc, etc?)
Do exclusive schools often have better professors, better students,
better
curricula, etc, etc? Often they do. It's a self-perpetuating cycle:
reputation begats talent, and both attract more of the same Do
exclusive
schools deserve all the respect they get? Often they do not.
So why are we even discussing this? Isn't this good/bad/depends stuff
OBVIOUS?
And people, PLEASE TRIM YOUR NEWSGROUP CROSSPOSTINGS!!! I'm sure that
no
one in k12.chat.teacher, soc.culture.china, rec.arts.books or
alt.feminism
wants to follow this thread.
--
Randy
crawford@mrj.com
Subject: Re: Is a US post-doc a good idea?
From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:33:36 -0400
On 14 Sep 1996, Tommy Anderberg wrote:
> I have a friend over here on the old continent who will soon have to make
> a decision about what to do after grad school. One possibility is a post-doc
> in the US. There are some considerations which I don't expect anybody to be
> able to help with (how this will affect future chances of getting a permanent
> position back here, if spending 2-4 years on another continent really is such
> an attractive idea, etc.) but there are also questions which many of you
> probably could answer. This person has only been to the US for short visits,
> so even basic things like "what are the costs of living", "what is a
> typical post-doc salary (in physics)", "what are the normal duties of an
> American post-doc in physics", "what is the relation vs. faculty members -
> how independent can I be" etc. need to be answered.
You mentioned "(in physics)" which scares the hell out of me. This is one
of the worst job markets to be in of all the sciences. The Young Scientist
Network is primarily occupied by physics people and you would do well to
direct your friend to people there (http://www.physics.uiuc.edu/) and hunt
around, get names of people to email with and get better advice that I can
give. Might try too.
> Are there any Europeans now doing a post-doc in the US reading this n.g.? Your
> feedback would be most appreciated!
There are a fairly good number of newsgroups that are named for European
countries and I would expect that Europeans in the USA will "drop in" on
what's going on back home and so you can post this kind of question and
try to troll out some relevant comments (I often refer foreigners outside
the USA to find foreigners inside the USA to better help them with
problems that "coming in" sometimes presents to them).
> Also, at the risk of starting another "my-school-is-better-than-yours"
> fight, I'd like to ask what everybody thinks/knows about Northwestern
> University (Evanston, IL) - especially the dept. of physics - as this is
> one of the places where my friend would be most interested in going.
One of the best indicators (not that I necessarily agree with it) of the
"quality" of a department, it how much grant money it brings in. Go look
at: http://cos.gdb.org/ and see how much total grant money Northwestern
brings in. As a first estimate, many schools have departments that are
fairly even with each other (but not at U. Delaware, for example, where
the biology dept is in very bad shape compared to chem and physics). Also,
go to your mainstream physics journals (eg. Physics Today) and see what
the gossip is. Dan Rieley is a physicist (optics) who knows this market
better and sometimes posts excellent material here (but my email to him
bounces back 80% of the time) so you might put him in the subject line and
talk to him.
Does your friend know how bad the job market is? Read my essays and
those of others (below for URLs). For sure, some guys will get jobs, but
for the majority, they will be getting second class jobs for much of their
lives and others maybe not even second class jobs in their fields.
Art Sowers
________________________________________________________________________
| rev Aug 18,1996 "Contemporary Problems in Sci Jobs" (=CPSJ) essays: |
| a 2nd Edition of CPSJ is available with conditional unrestricted |
| royalty-free reproduction rights. Earlier versions of |
| the "Contemporary Problems in Science Jobs" essays may be found at: |
| http://www.mbb.yale.edu/acb/ |
| http://chemistry.com/ (dig around) |
| http://his.com/~graeme/cpsj.html and ***/cpsj2.html |
| They also can be found at FTP site: |
| snorri.chem.washington.edu/pub/ysn/html_articles/Sowers_CPSJ.txt |
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| (rev Sept 11,'96) Some Net resources on PhD careers & job market: |
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| Nat Acad study on where PhDs eventually go: |
| http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/grad/ |
| " " / " / " / " /appendixc.html |
| Goodstein Report: http://www.caltech.edu/~goodstein |
| "The Scientist"- newspaper about scientist careers: |
| http://www.the-scientist.library.upenn.edu |
| gopher://ds.internic.net/11/pub/the-scientist (txt, partials) |
| AAAS (the situation of postdocs): |
| http://www.edoc.com/nextwave/forums_postdoc/ |
| AAUP Listserver: majordomo@igc.apc.org - leave sub=blank - |
| put in text of message: subscribe aaup-general |
| AAUP email address: aaup@igc.apc.org |
| Other scientist employment resource info can be found at: |
| http://his.com/~graeme/employ.html |
| http://saa49.ucsf.edu/psa/ |
| YSN website is at: http://www.physics.uiuc.edu/ (hunt around) |
| my nano HP is at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/arthures |
| Let me know if you can't reach these. Suggestions & email appreciated |
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Subject: Re: does it ever pay to be a "whistle-blower?"
From: "Arthur E. Sowers"
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:47:00 -0400
On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Troy Shinbrot wrote:
> In article ,
> "Arthur E. Sowers" wrote:
>
>
>
> > > In any case, although "blowing the whistle" would certainly be the
> > > ethical thing to do, it will also assuredly delay your career. Times
> > > haven't changed much in this regard - as indicated by recent articles
> > > in The Scientist and Science magazine.
> >
> > There is already much written on this topic. Most whistle-blowers suffer
> > some form of retaliation. Even if your position is strong, and have
> > impecable notes/evidence/documentation, there will be years going by while
> > all kinds of administrative stalling will take place. This situation is
> > even worse in the government and defense industry (viz. the literature on
> > DoD-industry fraud).
>
> I agree with all that has been said, but I would add that in academia,
> "retaliation" is seldom necessary. In most subordinate positions, it is
> absolutely mandatory to obtain a good reference from your superior
> (advisor, mentor, department benefactor, whatever). If you irritate your
> superior, your career is for all intents over, with no retaliation
> required. Thus if your friend wants to blow the whistle, I recommend that
> she wait until she has another position firmly and unambiguously in hand.
> Her career may be compromised at that point, but it may not be crippled.
>
> Good luck to you both.
>
> -Troy
Just to tweak Try's tweak on my advice, I managed to "evade" the need to
get a reference from two "supervisors" by finding/cultivating/associating
with "alternative" references. I usually had good to very good
relations/reputations with some teachers/profs/special project profs who I
used extensively not just in one disaster I had in life, but two, with bum
profs. All grad schools (and some undergraduate programs) have "special
project" courses which can be on any topic not already in the catalog. Get
a good prof and do a good project and interact well, and that guy can be a
decent reference for you. Also, at the other disaster in my grad school
career I happened to be taking a series of courses in another department
and was getting along famously with everyone and when the problem came to
a head in my home department, I gave the finger to the home prof AND the
home department AND moved to the "another" department and the new prof
(who, though I did not like that much personally, I had excellent vibes
that I would succeed with in finishing my degree [and that era in my
life ended happily]). The original problem was not a whistle-blow
situation, but unfortunately there is a fraction (10-20% of all faculty
that are out-of-touch with reality, aloof, and even incompetant (there is
another fraction, 10%, that are just all around excellent, the rest are
somewhere in between).
Art Sowers
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: elm@cs.umbc.edu (Ethan L. Miller)
Date: 16 Sep 1996 15:43:08 -0400
>>>>> "Dimitrios" == D Gerasimatos writes:
>> [...] he along with
>> the other newbies were asked (by their new colleagues) where they went
>> to school and if the answer was some non- Ivy/7 Sisters/Ivy-caliber
>> state school (a la UVA, Mich., Berkeley)/little Ivy (Haverford et al.),
>> they were snubbed.
Dimitrios> This is a place you'd _want_ to work? Get me as far away
Dimitrios> from that as possible! At Berkeley, I had a lot of good
Dimitrios> professors who were at or near the top of their respective
Dimitrios> fields and do you think that they _all_ went to the schools
Dimitrios> you described (especially for undergraduate)? A lot of
Dimitrios> them did, but quite a few of them did not. They have a word
Dimitrios> for what you described... elitism.
You seem to be an undergrad computer science major at Berkeley. Have
you actually listed the undergrad schools for the CS faculty there?
How many of them did not attend an Ivy-caliber (public or private)
school for their undergraduate education? What fraction of the total
faculty in CS is that?
ethan
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Subject: Re: Is a US post-doc a good idea?
From: reiley@klystron.flw.att.com (Dan Reiley)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 13:13:08 GMT
In article <51ebde$m0h@oden.abc.se>, Tommy Anderberg wrote:
>I have a friend over here on the old continent who will soon have to make
>a decision about what to do after grad school. One possibility is a post-doc
>in the US. There are some considerations which I don't expect anybody to be
>able to help with (how this will affect future chances of getting a permanent
>position back here, if spending 2-4 years on another continent really is such
>an attractive idea, etc.) but there are also questions which many of you
>probably could answer. This person has only been to the US for short visits,
>so even basic things like "what are the costs of living", "what is a
>typical post-doc salary (in physics)", "what are the normal duties of an
>American post-doc in physics", "what is the relation vs. faculty members -
>how independent can I be" etc. need to be answered.
cost of living:
Evanston is one of the most expensive Chicago suburbs, so buying
or renting a house in town will be out of the question. Because
of Northwesten, someone can probably find decent "student-type"
housing for a reasonable price. I'd guess a 1 bedroom apartment
(which generally also has a living room and kitchen) near campus
would cost about $500-600/month.
A 1/2 hour drive east of Evanston are many lower-cost suburbs,
where people can live in their own house with a yard and a safe
neighborhood on a salary of about $30-35k. This might be the
best option if your friend has a family to support.
salary:
I've known physics postdocs making $20k, and I've known others
making as much as $52k. Unfortunately, the salaries don't correlate
too well with cost of living; the sub-field of physics seems to be
the determining factor.
duties:
This also varies greatly. A bad position will be just a full-time
grad student, with little chance for publishing or leadership. A
more typical position allows plenty of publishing, proposal writing,
grad student supervision, leadership, and maybe even some teaching -
kind of like a professor without the committees.
>Also, at the risk of starting another "my-school-is-better-than-yours"
>fight, I'd like to ask what everybody thinks/knows about Northwestern
>University (Evanston, IL) - especially the dept. of physics - as this is
>one of the places where my friend would be most interested in going.
One thing your friend should consider is that Northwestern is tied
in to Chicago's mass transit system, so all of the advantages of
the city are readily available. Chicago is a fantastic city, and
your friend could probably live in some of the most fun neighborhoods
while going to Northwestern.
--
Dan Reiley, Ph.D. Bell Labs Naperville, IL
daniel.j.reiley@lucent.com (708)713-5444
Subject: Re: Biosource does not give a rat's ass about the Ivy league.
From: Marc Andelman
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:27:33 -0700
Linda St. James wrote:
>
> In article <323DF63B.5EDE@ultranet.com>, Marc Andelman
> wrote:
>
> >signed, Marc Andelman
>
> Mark -
>
> Can this statement be officially attributed to your company? Or, is it
> your own personal opinion and you are only offering it as such?!
>
> Dave
Hi Dave,
Dear Dave. This is the official Biosource position. However,
just because someone went to the ivy league is no reason to discriminate
either.
I find it much more satisfying to promote someone's career based upon
their creativity and accomplishments. Name brands don't cut it as far
as I am concerned. To it's credit, the biotech industry seems a lot
less
concerned than they used to be. This is a sign of maturity.
On thefinancial side, however, there is an in crowd of smart alec's at
places like
Goldman Sachs wheresome kid from Harvard can tank a biotech company's
stock with one
sell order. It is a real shame and flaw in the capital markets that
immature spoiled
brats like this have such power. I neverhtheless like to think that
trying to play
along with this jet set crowd only pays you in light coin.
Marc
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: jimg
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:27:33 -0700
First of all, the Ivys and the top 20 New Week schools require
incoming students who are already accomplished, except the few
atheletic souls. You cannot get in unless you are within the top
5% of the graduation class in the entire nation.
Secondly, only top notched scholars of their field became
professors or TAs in those institutions.
Thirdly, they are supported with the most bucks, research or
general funds.
Now, who would you like to work for you.
Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: jimg
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:35:18 -0700
Hannah Dvorak wrote:
>
> In article <3235FE59.72DF@qmgate.anl.gov>, mark_fuller@qmgate.anl.gov says...
> >
> >Don Overton wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> My subject is "Does going to an Ivy League school, such as Harvard or
> >> Princeton, result in increased earnings or other increased rewards." I
> >> was prompted into this because of students who are considering swimming
> >> scholarships to Division I schools, and who are being heavily recruited
> >> by Ivy League schools (which do not award athletic scholarships) who
> >> claim that the students would be better off foregoing the scholarship
> >> money and going to the Ivy school. They claim that the student's
> >> increased earnings in later years would more than offset the increased
> >> costs.
> >>
> >> Don Overton doverton@ix.netcom.com
> >
> >
> >Having graduated from Cornell, then doing my graduate work at a state
> >school, I had the opportunity to TA a microbiogy lab course. I was
> >appauled not only at the lack of proper grammer/writing skills, but
>
> Hmm. I'm appalled at the lack of spelling skills demonstrated here,
> though I'll grant that the grammar seems okay. :) (Sorry, couldn't
> resist.)
>
> >also the inability of most of the students to think conceptually,
> >rather than just regurgitating facts. Most of the students were
> >sophmores and juniors -- how had they gotten this far? My opinion is
> >that the focus of teaching in Ivy League schools is different -->
> >CONCEPTS rather than just facts (at least in the sciences at Cornell)
> >is emphasized in the Ivy's. I'd also ditto the "caliber of fellow
> >students and faculty" that other posters have mentioned.
>
> I think Caltech does a pretty good job of emphasizing concepts over
> facts as well. However, the undergrads here don't exactly write
> impeccable English, either. Maybe they think it's just not as
> important as the science. Still, it's far better than the Cal State
> schools, where a recent study showed that about 50% of incoming
> freshmen had to take remedial courses in either English or math.
> And these are supposed to be the top 1/3 of California high school
> graduates! :P
>
> - Hannah (whose Canadian undergrad education cost her about $2000 CDN p.a.)
>
> --
> Hannah Dvorak
> Division of Biology 216-76
> California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA 91125
I am surprised that CIT does not have a writing
skill test for freshmen. MIT has one and works
well. Last yr, only 17% passed and this yr, 1996
class of 2000, only 20% passed. Failed freshmen who
has SAT english mean score of 700 must attend a
remedial course or hand in an acceptable report
to graduate.
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:03:11 -0500
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OR mail a clean original to:
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NASA ECS Project
Hughes Information Technology Systems
jmasek@eos.hitc.com
Subject: Re: Is a US post-doc a good idea?
From: mmartin@BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:40:07 EST
On 14 Sep 1996, Tommy Anderberg wrote about Europeans coming to the US
for post-docs:
> Also, at the risk of starting another "my-school-is-better-than-yours"
> fight, I'd like to ask what everybody thinks/knows about Northwestern
> University (Evanston, IL) - especially the dept. of physics - as this is
> one of the places where my friend would be most interested in going.
I can't help with the specific questions about the physics department at
NU, but I know the area quite well. You didn't say what country your
friend was from, so I can't do any comparisons; I'll just give a little
background.
In terms of expense, one of the cheaper areas to live is in the Midwest
region of the US. Compared to the coasts (East and West), the Midwest is
cheap (like the South). However, post-doc salaries will probably reflect
the lower cost of living, so I don't think your friend will necessarily make
more money here. Also, NU is in Evanston, a large city that is
essentially an extension of Chicago. Housing and food prices reflect
this. But a salary in the $22,000 - $30,000 range should easily support a
single person (if your friend has to support a family, then he/she'll
need to go for the high end of that range).
Transportation is relatively easy in Evanston. Parking can be a problem
downtown, but I don't know how bad it is on campus (when I was there I
only had a bike). It is very easy to get into Chicago on the train (or el
- short for elevated train).
I'm from the Midwest and I really liked Evanston when I was there. I
thought NU's campus was attractive, even if some of the buildings needed a
lot of work. They have been spending a lot of money on infrastructure
recently, so it is possible that things are better now. Evanston is a nice
mix of a college town and a large town. The university gives it a lot of
cultural outlets (music, art, theater) but the downtown maintains its own
identity. It is a (relatively) old town, so in addition to the high-rise
apartment buildings there are a lot of older single-family homes.
The campus is on the shore of Lake Michigan, a large freshwater lake. This
tends to moderate the climate but can lead to heavy snow in the winter.
There are a lot of water activities (boating, windsurfing, etc) but not
many beaches (the water is extremely cold and the shore is rocky).
And even if you don't like Evanston, you've got the whole of Chicago to
play in! Just a short train ride (10-20 min) away.
Margaret A. Martin
Yale University
mmartin@biomed.med.yale.edu
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Subject: Re: Help! - Value of Ivy League vs. Other Schools
From: tigger22@primenet.com
Date: 17 Sep 1996 12:36:02 -0700
J. D. McDonald wrote:
: tigger22@primenet.com wrote:
: >
: > Being a recent ivy league graduate, I feel as though I should pass on to
: > you 2 things to keep in mind:
: >
: > 1.) as far as which college u attend, its the names that matters,
: > 2.) its who u know, not what u know
: >
: > these have been based on my own experiences...
: >
: That's true. It's also true that anyone who goes to an Ivy League
: school with the intention of using that experience to get filthy rich,
: as the 100% important goal, probably already knows this, and knows how
: to use his years there to cozy up to the like-minded folks who will
: get ahead with him. It's also true that to really use this four years,
: a person has to be very single minded: getting ahead is the thing, the
: ONLY
: thing. If you need to, for example, make a better grade on your Spanish
: test,
: hire a ringer to take it. What can it get you? Why, as everybody knows,
: re-election forever as the US Senator from Massachusetts, even if you
: get
: caught!
: In other words: to take advabtage of this very real opportunity, you
: must be ruthless, cynical, and unprincipled, just like the real
: world of big money is.
: Doug McDonald (PhD Harvard '71 in Chemistry and most certainly not
: in that sort of world!)
that is what Wharton is for. :)
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