Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy!!!
From: caseydon@icsi.net (Casey Donovan)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:48:26 GMT
X-No-Archive: Yes
With careful choice of words "Michael D. Painter"
wrote:
>Casey Donovan wrote in article
><323a13af.421034178@library.airnews.net>...
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>>
>> With careful choice of words Paul Greenwood
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have recently fallen victim to the expensive task of replacing parts
>in
>> >my central heating boiler because of a build up of limescale rendering
>> >the heat exchanger useless!
>> >
>> >I have seen on the market a device which claims to eliminate this. As
>far
>> >as I can see, it is just a magnet which wraps around the cold water
>feed.
>> >I cannot see any way in which this could possibly work - but, being an
>> >engineer I will not dismiss it until I really know whether it is a load
>> >of crap or not.
>> >
>> >CAN ANYBODY SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS???
>
>I saw a similar gadget but it seemed to imply that it was using ultrasonics
>in some form to actually break up the stuff. This is effective under some
>conditions, could it be here?
Michael, you appended your response to mine, but deleted my
"contribution". No problem, just a little confusing. I reckon you
hadn't received the original post.
I have no experience with attempting to make boiler feedwater
non-scaling with an ultrasonic device, but I would be extremely
skeptical. The problem is, the feedwater does not contain scale! It
only contains dissolved salts which precipitate after the water
chemistry is altered by thermal decomposition of carbonates and by
concentration as steam is evaporated from the water.
If you could somehow vibrate the whole boiler with ultrasonic
frequencies, I reckon you -might- reduce the tendency of the
precipitates to adhere to the heated surfaces. But wouldn't that
require a lot more energy than you could pull from a wall socket, and
a lot bigger device than any I've seen? Many of these devices don't
even have to be plugged in! Of course, the best ones have a red light
on them, to tell you they're working.
Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy!!!
From: charliew@hal-pc.org (charliew)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 96 00:30:52 GMT
In article <323b022d.1826475@library.airnews.net>,
caseydon@icsi.net (Casey Donovan) wrote:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>With careful choice of words "Michael D. Painter"
> wrote:
>
>>Casey Donovan wrote in article
>><323a13af.421034178@library.airnews.net>...
>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>>>
>>> With careful choice of words Paul Greenwood
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I have recently fallen victim to the expensive task of
replacing parts
>>in
>>> >my central heating boiler because of a build up of
limescale rendering
>>> >the heat exchanger useless!
>>> >
>>> >I have seen on the market a device which claims to
eliminate this. As
>>far
>>> >as I can see, it is just a magnet which wraps around the
cold water
>>feed.
>>> >I cannot see any way in which this could possibly work -
but, being an
>>> >engineer I will not dismiss it until I really know
whether it is a load
>>> >of crap or not.
>>> >
>>> >CAN ANYBODY SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS???
>>
>>I saw a similar gadget but it seemed to imply that it was
using ultrasonics
>>in some form to actually break up the stuff. This is
effective under some
>>conditions, could it be here?
>
>Michael, you appended your response to mine, but deleted my
>"contribution". No problem, just a little confusing. I
reckon you
>hadn't received the original post.
>
>I have no experience with attempting to make boiler
feedwater
>non-scaling with an ultrasonic device, but I would be
extremely
>skeptical. The problem is, the feedwater does not contain
scale! It
>only contains dissolved salts which precipitate after the
water
>chemistry is altered by thermal decomposition of carbonates
and by
>concentration as steam is evaporated from the water.
>
>If you could somehow vibrate the whole boiler with
ultrasonic
>frequencies, I reckon you -might- reduce the tendency of the
>precipitates to adhere to the heated surfaces. But wouldn't
that
>require a lot more energy than you could pull from a wall
socket, and
>a lot bigger device than any I've seen? Many of these
devices don't
>even have to be plugged in! Of course, the best ones have a
red light
>on them, to tell you they're working.
>
I know one thing these devices do not have. They don't have
a little green light on them. The green light signifies that
the seller is taking his green cash (U.S. currency) to the
bank, and laughing all the way there!
Subject: Drexel Research Journal
From: st93q84w@post.drexel.edu
Date: 15 Sep 1996 20:34:40 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------------
DREXEL UNIVERSITY JOURNAL OF UNDERGRADUATE RESEARCH IN BIOLOGY
--------------------------------------------------------------
*****CALL FOR UNDERGRADUATE PAPERS*****
Welcome to DUJOUR/Biology! Visit our WWW site at
http://bst2.bioscience.drexel.edu/biology/DUJOUR/DUJOURHome
The Drexel University Journal of Undergraduate Research in Biology
is a student written and produced journal designed to promote interest in
biological research among undergraduates. The goal of the Journal is to
allow students to participate fully in the whole process of scientific
research from the conception of a project to the publication of the final
results. It is fairly common for students to have the opportunity to
participate in a research project and to write a report for their
supervisor or professor. It is much less common for them to have the
opportunity to usher a paper through the publication process as the
primary author.
In addition to publishing student research projects,
DUJOUR/Biology will promote interest in research by publishing a variety
of other types of articles related to working in a research laboratory or
with currently important areas of research. A summary of the types of
articles that student authors may contribute is listed below.
DUJOUR/Biology is sponsored and funded by the Enhanced Bioscience
Education Program (EBE) in the Department of Bioscience and Biotechnology
at Drexel University. The EBE program is an NSF funded curriculum
development project which emphasizes active participation approaches to
science education. Please see the first article in this issue for an
overview of the EBE program.
If you are interested in contributing to DUJOUR/Biology as an
author, editor, or artist, please contact the Editor-In-Chief, David M.
Hallowell (st93q84w@post.drexel.edu) for additional information or write
us at:
DUJOUR/Biology
Dept. Bioscience and Biotechnology
Drexel University
Philadelphia, PA 19104
U.S.A
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A STUDENT AT DREXEL UNIVERSITY IN ORDER TO SUBMIT
AN ARTICLE FOR PUBLICATION BUT YOU MUST BE AN UNDERGRADUATE!
Types of Submissions
1. Editorial
Opinion based letters to the editor on current biologically related issues.
2. Student Perspective
Description of personal experiences in research, academia, or industry.
3. Original Research
Unpublished original research written in the format of a scientific paper
(introduction, materials and methods, results, discussion, references).
4. Review of Research
Description and/or discussion of scientific papers with a common theme.
Topics can range from a historical review to an analysis of "cutting
edge" research.
5. Technical Profile
Description of a novel research protocol or technique, which was
developed by the author, and used in the laboratory or field.
6. Class Projects
Outstanding examples of investigative projects conducted in class labs
will be included in each issue.
7. Miscellaneous
Any other submissions are welcomed. Please contact the editor for
detailed instructions for submission.
Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy - Cold Fusion and Antigrav!
From: inet@intellisys.net (brian whatcott)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 20:03:04 GMT
In article <323a13af.421034178@library.airnews.net>, caseydon@icsi.net
says...
>
>With careful choice of words Paul Greenwood
> wrote:
>
>>I have recently fallen victim to the expensive task of replacing
parts in
>>my central heating boiler because of a build up of limescale
rendering
>>the heat exchanger useless!
>>
>Paul Greenwood
>>The University of Hull
>
>Like cold fusion, there's a nagging notion that these things -might-
>be contrived to work, so they've persisted for over 50 years, probably
>longer. In fact they don't; I've personally been involved in
>demonstrating that a couple of times. Multitudes of others have
>demonstrated it to their dismay.
>
///
>
>Alan's recommendation in a post here, for a (synthetic zeolite) water
>softener, is an excellent one. In addition, while you could hardly
>justify the full-blown services of a water treatment company, plumbing
>or laundry supply companies sell formulated "compounds" which can be
>helpful. Most important: even if most of the steam is condensed and
>returned to the boiler, blow down, that is drain, some of the water
>from the boiler periodically.
>
A few comments ( both pertinent and wild ) on your sensible commentary.
The closed-loop hot water heating system common in the UK and Europe
can usually cope quite well with hard water because fresh water is only
added to make up losses AND the boiler neither makes steam nor provides
hot water for the faucets.
It's when too much water blows down that trouble begins....
Instead of indescribably filthy and bacterial/fungal infected airduct,
they live with twin copper pipes and hot water radiators in each room.
As to scale treatments, I recall that when faced with a dripping bath
faucet that became almost completely blocked, I introduced acid at the
nearest hand basin faucet, with the hot water supply turned off,
up-stream.
This can only be described as a heroic, or fool-hardy technique:
I continually expected an explosive acid back flow.
In fact, as luck would have it, a ten-minute dwell period produced a
moderate drip rate into the bath - filled with water as a diluant.
A second application then produced a high proportion of the original
faucet flow-rate - with copious sludge....
And now to build on your cold-fusion and magnetic anti-scale
comments: I recently followed a thread pointing at (wouldn't you know
it...)
an ANTI_GRAV device.
Reported in a british newspaper ( The Daily Telegraph) which carries an
online version, I was SHOCKED to find an ostensibly legit paper
reference: - to an upcoming paper in J Physics:D (Applied Physics).
The suggestion is that a rotating superconductive disk has been noted
to provide a 10% reduction in observed weight to objects nearby;
and further, that the device is stackable....
This, I can't wait to read!
brian whatcott
Altus OK
Subject: DUJOUR/Biology Call For Papers
From: st93q84w@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (David Hallowell)
Date: 15 Sep 1996 22:25:26 GMT
--------------------------------------------------------------
DREXEL UNIVERSITY JOURNAL OF UNDERGRADUATE RESEARCH IN BIOLOGY
--------------------------------------------------------------
*****CALL FOR UNDERGRADUATE PAPERS*****
Welcome to DUJOUR/Biology! Visit our WWW site at
http://bst2.bioscience.drexel.edu/biology/DUJOUR/DUJOURHome
The Drexel University Journal of Undergraduate Research in Biology
is a student written and produced journal designed to promote interest in
biological research among undergraduates. The goal of the Journal is to
allow students to participate fully in the whole process of scientific
research from the conception of a project to the publication of the final
results. It is fairly common for students to have the opportunity to
participate in a research project and to write a report for their
supervisor or professor. It is much less common for them to have the
opportunity to usher a paper through the publication process as the
primary author.
In addition to publishing student research projects,
DUJOUR/Biology will promote interest in research by publishing a variety
of other types of articles related to working in a research laboratory or
with currently important areas of research. A summary of the types of
articles that student authors may contribute is listed below.
DUJOUR/Biology is sponsored and funded by the Enhanced Bioscience
Education Program (EBE) in the Department of Bioscience and Biotechnology
at Drexel University. The EBE program is an NSF funded curriculum
development project which emphasizes active participation approaches to
science education. Please see the first article in this issue for an
overview of the EBE program.
If you are interested in contributing to DUJOUR/Biology as an
author, editor, or artist, please contact the Editor-In-Chief, David M.
Hallowell (st93q84w@post.drexel.edu) for additional information or write
us at:
DUJOUR/Biology
Dept. Bioscience and Biotechnology
Drexel University
Philadelphia, PA 19104
U.S.A
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A STUDENT AT DREXEL UNIVERSITY IN ORDER TO SUBMIT
AN ARTICLE FOR PUBLICATION BUT YOU MUST BE AN UNDERGRADUATE!
Types of Submissions
1. Editorial
Opinion based letters to the editor on current biologically related issues.
2. Student Perspective
Description of personal experiences in research, academia, or industry.
3. Original Research
Unpublished original research written in the format of a scientific paper
(introduction, materials and methods, results, discussion, references).
4. Review of Research
Description and/or discussion of scientific papers with a common theme.
Topics can range from a historical review to an analysis of "cutting
edge" research.
5. Technical Profile
Description of a novel research protocol or technique, which was
developed by the author, and used in the laboratory or field.
6. Class Projects
Outstanding examples of investigative projects conducted in class labs
will be included in each issue.
7. Miscellaneous
Any other submissions are welcomed. Please contact the editor for
detailed instructions for submission.
Subject: Neutralize Nuclear Waste
From: LULU
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:08:53 -0700
Dear Friends:
We have been associates of this group for the last eight years and have
seen how the government has totally ignored -- and downright suppressed
-- the availability of these technologies to better the world.
We are sending you this invitation to please attend this rally, witness
for yourself and disseminate the information to your friends /
subscribers.
When you go to the show, you must present a copy of this ad (last page
of this fax) to the sign-up people at the entrance.
Thank you,
John Ohm & Marylou Walker
P.O. BOX 11962, RENO, NV 89510
_________________
UNITED COMMUNITY SERVICES OF AMERICA
3002 Route 23 North, Newfoundland, NJ 07435
Dear Friends:
Something incredible has happened to us! It is beyond my expectations at
this point and is worth every one of us dropping everything else to
concentrate on.
Professor Yull Brown has the technology to neutralize radioactive
waste. Right now there is a location in the United States where, if
there were a nuclear mishap, every living thing in all of the United
States, Canada, and Mexico would be totally wiped out! This is very
serious. The government of this country has put everyone in this
country at great risk. Professor Brown has proof of what I am saying,
and he is prepared to present it to the people of this country.
As you know, Better World Technology has been promoting Professor
Brown's technology on this national tour. We do have the "exclusive"
rights to sell Brown's Gas Machines in the United States. We were
shocked when Professor Brown showed up at our show in Las Vegas, sitting
in the front row. We had over a thousand people in the audience that
night. After I explained why I believe Professor Brown to be the most
important man in the world, I asked him to come up on stage. The
entire audience spontaneously rose to their feet in a standing ovation.
I have never been more proud of the American people! It deeply touched
Professor Brown, and I saw tears in his eyes. I had tried to get him not
to give up on the American people. He was so touched by that gesture,
that he did something I could never have expected. He announced that he
too would come to the last meeting on our tour in Philadelphia, and that
he intended to work with UCSA to neutralize all the nuclear waste in
this country!
Professor Yull Brown is willing to be at our Declaration of Energy
Independence on the 23rd of September in Philadelphia, and has
magnanimously offered to demonstrate his ability to neutralize
radioactive waste at our show! He will also bring a car engine that has
already been modified to run on Brown's Gas, and will demonstrate how to
pump water without any mechanical device (pump) at all. I believe that
he was so touched by the hearts of the crowd that he has decided that
even at the risk of his own life, he will do this.
The government is currently planning a 400 billion dollar rip off of the
American people, working with the private sector to find a way to safely
store the nuclear waste in dump sites. They may get a little upset at
the idea that we, with Brown, could eliminate the need for storage of
waste. We have to get a lot of the American people to attend this last
show to protect our friend. If he is going to do this along with the
other things we had planned to demonstrate, this is the biggest news to
hit this country over the last century!
After the show in Vegas, Professor Brown and I went out for breakfast,
and I agreed to rent a stadium in Philadelphia and to try all in my
power to pack it with people. I saw his reaction when 1,000 people
applauded his capability, and a stadium of people would so strongly
capture his heart as to completely captivate him, I believe. He agreed
to be there. I think that packing that stadium is the most important
thing we could ever do. It is time! If we can pull this off, we can
be catapulted ahead in ways that are unimaginable. I intend to pull out
all the stops and do exactly that! We found the stadium. It is called
the CoreStates Center at the Spectrum. The address is 3601 South Broad
Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It is the place where the
Philadelphia Flyers play hockey. It is also the place where the
Philadelphia 76ers play basketball. The place seats 19,000 witnesses.
There are four huge screens to show close-ups of what is happening on
the stage. We need to pack it, and there is little time to do that.
We are doing a mailing to all the dealers and to all the people that
came to our shows on both tours this year. We need the dealers to help
us get this tremendous job done. If we can pull this off, we will have
Prof. Brown's undivided attention and respect, as well as one tremendous
amount of momentum in our project. This will be the biggest thing that
has ever been done to end the suppression of technologies in the history
of this country! It will pretty much assure the success of our project.
Filling that stadium will certainly be a mandate from the people, and
everyone who comes will have a chance to sign the Declaration of Energy
Independence. They will also all get a free electricity device on their
home at no cost to buy and no cost for all their electricity. That is
a pretty good reason for them to come. On the other hand, if we have a
stadium that seats 19,000 and only a few thousand people come, it will
hurt our relationship with Brown, and not only cost us a lot of money we
cannot afford to lose, but it will end our tour as a joke rather than a
mandate from the people.
Here's what we need from each of you. Do whatever you can to promote
this event and get people to go to it. Go to it yourself if that is
humanly possible. Promote this show as if your life depended on it,
because it just may. By the way, the historic demonstration of
neutralizing radioactive waste will be perfectly safe and will be
supervised by nuclear physicists and done in a proper fashion. Get
on the internet, or the radio, or anything you know of. If there ever
was a time to network, it is now and I do mean NOW! We will give you a
copy of the ad we are going to run as a full page in the USA Today East
Coast Edition. Feel free to use it or do whatever else you can to
promote this event. There is little time remaining before the 23rd of
September. It has to be done at that time, so we just have to pull this
thing off. We will have a bus run from the location we were going to
have for the show and the hockey stadium it is in now so people that do
not get the word will not miss the event. It will start at 7:30 PM for
that reason. There will be all kinds of things at this show you have
never seen before. There will be little talk and lots more demonstrating
hardware. You will be very happy to see what we have in store for
the Declaration of Independence from technology suppression in America.
The show will be fantastic no matter how many people show up, but we
need witnesses so there will be no dirty politics.
There is another thing we must do in order to pull this off. We are very
shorthanded. This has come up unexpectedly. I never expected Brown to
fall in love with our project in Vegas and make the shocking
announcement that he was going to work with us to eliminate nuclear
waste in this country, but he did, and by George, we will try to earn
his faith in us! Our staff is small, and we are very limited in what we
can do this month.
If we are to pull off all sorts of unplanned mailings and get full page
ads in the east coast papers, as well as plan to occupy a huge stadium,
we are going to be too busy to service the dealers with videos and
brochures of products, or even to supply you. We have to put the
dealership on hold until the 24th. We cannot do both. I am sorry we
have to put everything on hold, but please understand what a challenge
this is for all of us.
So, please, do all you can to get to Philadelphia and to bring and
invite as many others as you can. This is it! There will never be a
better time to stand up for America and for this project. You may be
surprised at what comes out of this show! It will be like no other event
in our history, and this is your chance to be a part of it. If every
dealership got only 10 people to show up and came themselves, then the
stadium would be packed (about 1700 of the dealerships are owned by
someone that is interested and there are only 300 to be replaced
at this point. We believe in you guys and in God's ability to perform
miracles. This will be one!
___________
THE MOST IMPORTANT SHOW IN AMERICA
...is happening at 7:30 PM on September 23rd
at CoreStates Spectrum, 3601 S. Broad Street in Philadelphia
You might take a train... you might take a plane... but, if you have to
walk, you need to get there just the same.
AMERICANS WILL DECLARE TOTAL ENERGY INDEPENCENCE!
For all those who come to this show:
° You will be invited to sign up to get a new electric generator that
will give you all the energy for your home at no operating cost. You
will not pay one cent to have it provided on your home or to operate
it... ever! Never pay an oil, gas or electric bill again!
° Sign up to have the existing engines in your vehicles modified to
run on free energy without gasoline or batteries ever again. We will
test the torque on a working model.
° Come see for yourself the technologies that have been suppressed
by the Department of Energy and the powerful self interest groups that
they serve.
° See dozens of working models of technologies that will shock you.
THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENT...
THE MOST DANGEROUS OF ALL FORMS OF POLLUTION
IS NUCLEAR WASTE!
One pound of plutonium can wipe out every man, woman and child on this
planet... and it's lethal for 50,000 years! An average nuclear power
plant gets rid of 66,000 pounds per year and there is no fool proof way
to store it safely!
COME AND WITNESS A TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN NEUTRALIZE
RADIOACTIVE WASTE AND MAKE IT TOTALLY HARMLESS! WE NEED LOTS
OF WITNESSES. There will be nuclear physicists present and we will
conclusively prove this can be done! Be a part of history. The
demonstration is totally safe, but since big business has planned to get
a 400 billion dollar contract to store this waste, WE NEED THE PEOPLE TO
COME TO PROTECT US WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE THIS PROCESS!!
Dennis Lee, a direct descendant of Richard Henry Lee (the man that
called for the Declaration of Independence signed in Philadelphia) will
call for America's Declaration of Energy Independence at this show.
Please come and support our right to show you these breakthroughs to
stop the dirty politics that keep these technologies from the people. If
you don't believe now, come and see and you will! Come and be a signer
of the Declaration of Energy Independence.
Better World Technology, 3002 Route 23 North, Newfoundland, NJ 07435
INVITED BY MARYLOU WALKER/JOHN OHM
P.O. BOX 11962, RENO, NV 89510
Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy - Cold Fusion and Antigrav!
From: caseydon@icsi.net (Casey Donovan)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:54:21 GMT
X-No-Archive: Yes
With careful choice of words inet@intellisys.net (brian whatcott)
wrote:
>In article <323a13af.421034178@library.airnews.net>, caseydon@icsi.net
>says...
>>
>>With careful choice of words Paul Greenwood
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I have recently fallen victim to the expensive task of replacing
>>>parts in my central heating boiler because of a build up of limescale
>>>rendering the heat exchanger useless!
>>>
>>Paul Greenwood
>>>The University of Hull
>>
>>Like cold fusion, there's a nagging notion that these things -might-
>>be contrived to work, so they've persisted for over 50 years, probably
>>longer. In fact they don't; I've personally been involved in
>>demonstrating that a couple of times. Multitudes of others have
>>demonstrated it to their dismay.
>>
>///
>>
>>Alan's recommendation in a post here, for a (synthetic zeolite) water
>>softener, is an excellent one. In addition, while you could hardly
>>justify the full-blown services of a water treatment company, plumbing
>>or laundry supply companies sell formulated "compounds" which can be
>>helpful. Most important: even if most of the steam is condensed and
>>returned to the boiler, blow down, that is drain, some of the water
>>from the boiler periodically.
>>
>
>A few comments ( both pertinent and wild ) on your sensible commentary.
>
>The closed-loop hot water heating system common in the UK and Europe
>can usually cope quite well with hard water because fresh water is only
>added to make up losses AND the boiler neither makes steam nor provides
>hot water for the faucets.
> It's when too much water blows down that trouble begins....
In such a system, you're right.
There are two basic types of central heating systems, and several
sub-types. In one, the boiler produces steam, which goes either a.)
to radiators, fan coil units, or air handlers in the building, gives
up its heat to the air, and condenses back to water, or b.) goes
through a heat exchanger where it heats water circulating in a loop,
and then condenses. The condensate is usually returned to the boiler
as feed for another cycle. Any losses must be made up with new tap
water.
In the type you refer to, the "boiler" doesn't really boil water into
steam, it just heats it. That hot water then makes one of the two
trips described above and returns to the boiler.
Whether the "boiler" generates steam or hot water, -domestic- hot
water is usually made with a coil in a water tank -- it isn't drawn
directly from the boiler circuit, and steam isn't injected into the
domestic water.
Water losses are usually less in the "hot water boiler" system, and
more important, losses are of water with its mineral load, not partly
of steam containing very little dissolved solids. The solids don't
have a chance to concentrate in the water that remains. A little
scale may form, but that's it. As you note, continued losses,
unintentional blow-down, can turn a little into a lot.
Paul's description of lime scale (calcium carbonate) buildup rendering
his heat exchanger useless led me to believe he has a true steam
boiler system. Maybe not so, but in either case a water softener is a
desirable accessory, just more so for a steam system.
My suggestion about boiler "compounds" does not apply to a hot water
boiler. However, it can profit from use of a corrosion inhibitor,
typically a sodium nitrite / borax mixture.
>Instead of indescribably filthy and bacterial/fungal infected airduct,
>they live with twin copper pipes and hot water radiators in each room.
>
>As to scale treatments, I recall that when faced with a dripping bath
>faucet that became almost completely blocked, I introduced acid at the
>nearest hand basin faucet, with the hot water supply turned off,
>up-stream.
> This can only be described as a heroic, or fool-hardy technique:
>I continually expected an explosive acid back flow.
>
> In fact, as luck would have it, a ten-minute dwell period produced a
>moderate drip rate into the bath - filled with water as a diluant.
>A second application then produced a high proportion of the original
>faucet flow-rate - with copious sludge....
A very ingenious and valid way of handling the problem, if not
strictly conforming to plumbing codes! The problem comes when the
piping has corroded enough that removing the scale uncovers
penetrating pits. (Scale and corrosion are not mutually exclusive.)
Then you have a sprinkler system inside the walls. Best to start with
very dilute acid -- the initial reaction rate can be enthusiastic.
Again, a water softener is worth a thought.
>And now to build on your cold-fusion and magnetic anti-scale
>comments: I recently followed a thread pointing at (wouldn't you know
>it...) an ANTI_GRAV device.
>Reported in a british newspaper ( The Daily Telegraph) which carries an
>online version, I was SHOCKED to find an ostensibly legit paper
>reference: - to an upcoming paper in J Physics:D (Applied Physics).
>
> The suggestion is that a rotating superconductive disk has been noted
>to provide a 10% reduction in observed weight to objects nearby;
>and further, that the device is stackable....
>
>This, I can't wait to read!
>
>brian whatcott
>Altus OK
I can't wait, either! Please send me the reference, if and when it
appears. That is, if you haven't levitated into some beyond-third
dimension, just from the influence of reading it.
Casey
Subject: Re: Are there still scientific expeditions? YES
From: David Granteer
Date: 16 Sep 1996 09:51:08 GMT
Mark Mulligan wrote:
>There is an emerging UK Expeditions Forum for this sort of thing. Its
>being discussed at uk.net.news.announce. Give your support. Also you
>can contact the Royal Geographical Society Expedition Advisory Centre ,
>London.
>
>JR Bauer wrote:
>>
>> Have you considered EARTHWATCH? They take trained and untrained
>> volunteers for specific projects.
>>
>> anon1167@nyx10.cs.du.edu (M) wrote:
>>
>> >While hanging around the library today and thinking about how bored I am
>> >with with lab work, I decided that what I really wanted was to go on a
>> >scientific expedition. You know, like in the old movies where the
>> >scientists cruise around in the tropics, collect specimens, and take them
>> >back to England, where they show them off to aristocratic families until
>> >some wealthy young woman falls in love them, and they live happily ever
>> >after.
>>
>> >So I was wondering, are there still scientific expeditions that travel to
>> >distant, relatively unexplored parts of the world? A lab tech that I
>> >worked with once went on a 6-month expedition ot Antarctica, but I was
>> >thinking of someplace a little warmer.
>>
>> >
>
>--
>_____________________
>Dr. Mark Mulligan, Department of Geography,King's College, Strand,
>London,WC2R 2LS.
>Tel. 44 171 873 2280,Fax. 44 171 873 2287,Email. mark.mulligan@kcl.ac.uk
No problem! The expeditions that the National Geographic Society (US)
sends out seem like the worlds finest boondogles to me. You know, get on
a sailing vessel and sail to Antarctica to photograph the Penguins. All
this and they pay for it! If you figure out how to get them to do this
for you, please take me along.
Dave
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