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Subject: 5th Annual Clinical Technologies Conference -- From: Jen Erbe
Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy - Cold Fusion and Antigrav! -- From: inet@intellisys.net (brian whatcott)
Subject: NATO ASI: Study of the human corpus callosum -- From: dakaiser@ix.netcom.com (David Kaiser)
Subject: Re: P is for Polonium -- From: alli@crl.com (Manuel Robalino)
Subject: Physics Models of Everday Objects? -- From: Steven Goodale
Subject: social responses to voice rerponse systems -- From: l.p.m.verhaeg@research.kpn.com (l.verhaeg)
Subject: Wheelchair propulsion research -- From: rjenkins@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (Ross Jenkins)
Subject: Re: The Origin Of All -- From: SG
Subject: Electronic publication is TOO rapid -- From: R Jones
Subject: Re: P is for Polonium -- From: Noah Dowd
Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy - Cold Fusion and Antigrav! -- From: rxw13@cwru.edu (Dr. Ron)
Subject: Universities: centres of cultural and financial parasitism (with particular reference to physics and the arts) Was: Re: US academic persecutes a dissident -- From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Subject: EXERCISE & VO2 MAX IN RATS/MICE -- From: physiology@colinst.com (PG)
Subject: Electronic publication is TOO rapid -- From: R Jones
Subject: Developer info requested. -- From: "Joseph King"
Subject: A Two Year Research Project with Bursary. -- From: steph@ms.ic.ac.uk (S.M. Marchand)
Subject: Telecommuting Research -- From: username@amber.cqu.edu.au (your name)
Subject: Re: Universities: centres of cultural and financial parasitism (with particular reference to physics and the arts) Was: Re: US academic persecutes a dissident -- From: bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce Scott TOK )
Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy!!! -- From: pendlewe@wfu.edu (Bill Pendleton)

Articles

Subject: 5th Annual Clinical Technologies Conference
From: Jen Erbe
Date: 17 Sep 1996 16:15:51 -0400
The Albert E. Trieschman Center announces the 1996 Clinical Technologies
conference, to be held November 11-14, 1996 at the Pointe Hilton Resort 
at Squaw Peak in Phoenix, AZ.
Clinical Technologies features state-of-the-art information systems for 
clinical record keeping, tracking, and other management applications.  
This conference provides exceptional opportunities to network with 
hundreds of professionals -- all trying to find better ways to measure 
and report outcomes in a rapidly changing human services environment.  
Topic areas to be addressed include:  to build or buy;  program 
evaluation; quality assurance;  case management; utilization review;  
clinical decision support;  confidentiality;  vendor analysis;  bulletin 
boards;  statewide systems;  data analysis;  and the World Wide Web.
The Albert E. Trieschman Center is a national resource center committed to
helping practitioners find better ways of caring for, treating, and educating
high-risk children, youth, and families.  A division of Walker, in Needham,
Massachusetts, the Trieschman Center offers training for direct service 
workers and supervisors; manages training events; and provides 
consultation and technical assistance to private and public agencies.
For more information or to receive a hard copy of the brochure via mail, 
call Eileen Yates at 617/449-0626, Ext. 123, or leave a message at HN4217.
A Web-based version of the brochure is available at:
     http://www.cmhc.com/articles/clinical.htm
and you may register for the conference online directly at:
     http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/cwk/CT96.htm
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Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy - Cold Fusion and Antigrav!
From: inet@intellisys.net (brian whatcott)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 20:04:06 GMT
In article <323C93B7.7633@mail.ic.net>, pdiehr@mail.ic.net says...
>
>brian whatcott wrote:
>> 
>> Reported in a british newspaper ( The Daily Telegraph) which carries 
an
>> online version, I was SHOCKED to find an ostensibly legit paper
>> reference: - to an upcoming paper in J Physics:D  (Applied Physics).
>> ....
>> This, I can't wait to read!   
>> 
>
>I read here (sci.physics) that this paper had been withdrawn. 
>
>Best Regards, Peter
Thanks for reporting this unexpected development   (grin): 
the expectation was killing me!
brian whatcott 
Altus OK
(follow ons to sci.engr please...)
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Subject: NATO ASI: Study of the human corpus callosum
From: dakaiser@ix.netcom.com (David Kaiser)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 20:49:22 GMT
                    NATO Advanced Study Institute
The Role of the Human Corpus Callosum in Sensory Motor Integration: 
Anatomy, Physiology, and Behavior; Individual Differences and Clinical 
Applications.
September 1 - 10, 1996               Il Ciocco, Lucca, Tuscany Italy
           Institute Homepage including conference papers    
    http://www.lifesci.ucla.edu/psychology/nato/natoasi.html
AIM OF THE INSTITUTE 
The NATO Advanced Study Institute provides a state-of-the-art review of 
the anatomy, physiology and behavior of the human corpus callosum in the 
service of sensory motor integration between the two cerebral 
hemispheres. 
ORGANIZING COMMITTEE
Eran Zaidel, Ph.D., ASI Director, Dept of Psychology, UCLA		
Marco Iacoboni, M.D., Ph.D., Dept of Neurology, UCLA School of Medicine
Alvaro Pascual-Leone Garcia, M.D., Ph.D., Dept of Physiology, Univ. of 
Valencia, Spain
APPLICATIONS
Applications are solicited from scientists, post-doctoral fellows, and 
advanced graduate students in neuroscience, psychology, neurology and 
psychiatry. Cognitive neuroscientists are especially encouraged to apply. 
For application materials please e-mail Linda (lcapetil@ucla.edu).
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Subject: Re: P is for Polonium
From: alli@crl.com (Manuel Robalino)
Date: 17 Sep 1996 14:17:42 -0700
Bruce.F (brucefon@erols.com) wrote:
: We talk about comparative Nicotine concentrations,
:  but what about tracking Polonium contents & intakes?
: Has anyone looked at this (radioactive) angle of exposure?
My yes...I was tracking some Polonium just the other day...the little 
boogers are fast, and smart too.  Just as I was looking radioactively, at 
what was APPARENTLY the WRONG angle of exposure, that little Polonium 
just ZIPPED by me and managed to con my pet weasle out of the french frys 
I had given him for lunch.  Rats.  I just hate that when that happens.
-- 
Keira Robalino
San Francisco, CA
"Everyone knows the moon is made of cheese"
Wallace to Grommit
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Subject: Physics Models of Everday Objects?
From: Steven Goodale
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:36:59 -0700
I'm hoping someone can help me, I don't know much about the subject but
I'm interested in learning about the way that (Auto-CAD?) models are
made and if there are usable libraries of them to download and play
with.  I've heard that Nasa keeps a library of them but I haven't been
able to find it.  
Models that I'm interested in are real world objects such as cars,
apples, fog, liquids and so on, I'm not looking for replicas of the
Polio virus or the such.  
Thanks and if anyone can help please either post back here or e-mail me
at stevenina@earthink.com
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Subject: social responses to voice rerponse systems
From: l.p.m.verhaeg@research.kpn.com (l.verhaeg)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 07:42:55 GMT
I'm a student on the technical University of Eindhoven and for my MSc 
thesis  I'm investing the social responses of voice response systems.
I want to know what kind of people (education, life-standard, profession) 
have a negative or a positive attitude towards IVR. Do you have any ideas 
or information on this topic.
Specifically I want to know more about  the image of  IVR and the 
customers attitude towards IVR. When do customers for instance prefer to 
use an operator?
How do these topics affect the design of the user interface?
I appreciate all kind of information
With regard,
Leon Verhaeg
e-mail: L.P.M.Verhaeg@research.kpn.com
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Subject: Wheelchair propulsion research
From: rjenkins@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (Ross Jenkins)
Date: 18 Sep 1996 20:27:34 +1000
Lines:  11
Would you like to be involved in research designed to improve mobility 
and heighten the quality of life of people who use wheelchairs?
If you've sustained a spinal cord injury, manually propel, and would like 
to participate, please don't hesitate to contact Dr Graham Ward or Mr 
Ross Jenkins, at the University of Wollongong's Department of Biomedical 
Science, on Phone (042) 21 3881, Fax (042) 21 4096, or
E-mail rjenkins@uow.edu.au.
Men and women of all ages and lesion levels welcome.
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Subject: Re: The Origin Of All
From: SG
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:54:03 -0700
Janet Baker wrote:
> 
> This is the first installment in a reasoning experiment that
> I am performing.  If you are interested in participating
> please read on, perform the simple experiment, and email
> me with your results and observations.
> 
> Materials
> 1. An empty box.  A show box will suffice.
> 2. A small ball.  If you can't find a ball ANY object will work.
> 
> Procedures
> 1. Place the ball (or other object) into the empty box without
>    placing the ball (or other object) into the empty box.
> 
>         Note: There is no trick such as having someone else
>               place the ball in the box for you, throwing it
>               in, lowering it in with a string, etc.  Take
>               the directions literally.
> 
> That's it.  Now record your results and email with them and
> any observations that you have.  This experiment is going
> to evolve into something more than it currently seems and
> will eventually be something that will capture your interest
> for a great deal of time, so bear with me.
> 
> Joseph Baker
> joseph80@ix.netcom.com
OK, no tricks and catching-on-words.
As soon as I place an object, in whole or partially, 
into an empty box, the box is not empty any more. 
Is it what you want to hear?
Sergei
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Subject: Electronic publication is TOO rapid
From: R Jones
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:18:09 -0700
A survey of the www makes it clear that electronic publication encourages 
us to publish too quickly, without having put enough thought into our 
work.  How disastrous this can be was made apparent in the old "cold 
fusion" flap.
R. Jones
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Subject: Re: P is for Polonium
From: Noah Dowd
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:39:16 -0500
Manuel Robalino wrote:
> 
> Bruce.F (brucefon@erols.com) wrote:
> : We talk about comparative Nicotine concentrations,
> :  but what about tracking Polonium contents & intakes?
> 
> : Has anyone looked at this (radioactive) angle of exposure?
> 
> My yes...I was tracking some Polonium just the other day...the little
> boogers are fast, and smart too.  Just as I was looking radioactively, at
> what was APPARENTLY the WRONG angle of exposure, that little Polonium
> just ZIPPED by me and managed to con my pet weasle out of the french frys
> I had given him for lunch.  Rats.  I just hate that when that happens.
> 
Yeah, and they always hang out with that damn monkey...
-Noah
-- 
	"I like you, I always have."
		-The King, in _True Romance_
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Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy - Cold Fusion and Antigrav!
From: rxw13@cwru.edu (Dr. Ron)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:13:01 E.S.T.
> charliew@hal-pc.org (charliew) writes:
>In article <51hndo$82q@zoom2.telepath.com>,
>   inet@intellisys.net (brian whatcott) wrote:
>>And now to build on your cold-fusion and magnetic anti-scale
>>comments: I recently followed a thread pointing at (wouldn't 
>you know 
>>it...)
>>an ANTI_GRAV device.
>>Reported in a british newspaper ( The Daily Telegraph) which 
>carries an 
>>online version, I was SHOCKED to find an ostensibly legit 
>paper 
>>reference: - to an upcoming paper in J Physics:D  (Applied 
>Physics).
>>
>> The suggestion is that a rotating superconductive disk has 
>been noted 
>>to provide a 10% reduction in observed weight to objects 
>nearby;
>>and further, that the device is stackable....
>>
>>This, I can't wait to read!   
>>
>>brian whatcott 
>>Altus OK
>>
>Did they happen to mention having any "snake oil" for sale?
>Based on the physics I learned, there are no anti-gravity 
>devices (physicists know of magnetic dipoles, but only 
>monopoles for gravity).
Sorry for my ignorance - I'm a biochemist so it's to be expected - but:
are there any violations of physical LAWS involved in postulating 
anti-gravity? If not, merely not having found it (or them if we're talking 
gravitational bipoles) is hardly proof of their non-existence.  We hadn't 
found quantum mechanical/relativistic effects before the 1920's either - that 
didnt mean they weren't there.
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Subject: Universities: centres of cultural and financial parasitism (with particular reference to physics and the arts) Was: Re: US academic persecutes a dissident
From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:04:54 GMT
This posting will concentrate on one central point: that of the
cultural poison spread through abuse of physics. Other topics are
dealt with in quotes below, such as the abuse of the arts by
universities.  By concentrating on the most prestigious intellectual
discipline in universites, I hope to truly effectively demonstrate how
untrustworthy academia is.
It really is time to wage long overdue and just war on academia!  I am
having difficulty getting the war going!  This posting is being
directed to newsgroups with a legitimate interest in matters
discussed.  Some sports groups are included as it was from these
groups quoted material below originated in.
Now I will readily admit there is a beauty and aesthetic to applied
mathematics and the more mathematical or theoretical side of physics
that can almost blow one's mind, particularly with the more eleagant
equations.  It can leave on feeling how hollow and superficial those
who propound the classic arts are.  It can leave one feeling set apart
from the ordinary mass of students, staff and academic life.  It can
contribute to a hatred of bureaucracy: why do these ignorant people
yield so much power who can never know?  Maybe its effect is more
powerful than drugs.  Frankly it is dangerous.  Perhaps it is a
similiar effect to that on returned soldiers who find it difficult to
adapt back to normal life after war and never talk about it: how can
those who have not experienced understand?
Now we have had some talk about it: Issac Newton comparing himself to
a child at the sea's edge who has but thrown in a pebble.  We have had
Stephen Hawking's book on time.  We have had Albert Einstein delving
into the philosophical.  
However there is a problem with two central issues arising from
contemporay physics which have in reality had a culturally poisoning
effect.  One is related to particle physics and the other to
relativistic predictions giving rise to notions of curved space-time
and multiple space and time dimensions.
No principle in physics, including the Heisenberg Uncertaintity
principle, states that sub atomic particles have free will.  Yet this
is a contemporary popular interpretation!  It is impossible to make a
measurement to an infinite level of accuracy.  The Heisenberg
Uncertaintity Principle provides a prediction of what a level of
uncertaintity is!  Nothing more!
Their is nothing in Relativistic mechanics that suggests the standard
Western world cultural 'common sense' standard three space dimensional
with one time dimensional model of the universe is invalid.  There are
predictions that go against the standard Western world cultural
'common sense' notions (as much science as done in the past, such as
the world is round, not flat), but they do not imply extra space and
time dimensions.  Such extra dimensions make no sense within the
predictions of Relativistic mechanics yet are readiy propagated in
the popular media.  Relativistic mechanics works with the standard
dimensions, just because it gives rise to predictions that appear to
confound 'common sense' does not mean it throws out the dimensions it
used to make the predictions in the first place!
So why has the world being poisoned by the champions of the mind?  At
any rate academics and universities cannot be trusted.  They are
culturally and financially parasitic!  Read on for more...
John Heenan
john@heenan.ironbark.id.au
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From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Subject: Re: Screening Posts to rec.sport.swimming
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:28:04 GMT
Brent S. Rushall (brushall@mail.sdsu.edu) wrote:
: From time to time postings have advocated "stopping" individuals and 
: topics from being posted to "rec.sport.swimming".  
: From then on when you open "r.s.s" it will not show you the topic/s or 
:  author/s that you do not want to see.
: I hope this is helpful.  It is a good way of "santizing" content from 
: aggravating origins.
: Brent S. Rushall, Ph.D., R.Psy. [brushall@mail.sdsu.edu]
I am the only person on r.s.s. (rec.sport.swimming) that their have
been calls to stop.  I find Brent, a Ph.D, implication that my
contributions are unsanitory offensive (in his incoherent statement
above).  I am going to up my contributions ridiculing the academic
community.  See my latest posting: 'Universities: centres of cultural
and financial parasitism'.
John Heenan
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From: datam@mpx.com.au (John Heenan)
Subject: Re: US academic persecutes a dissident
Date: 14 Sep 1996 11:54:04 GMT
RICHARD J. LOGAN (RJL@OVPR.UGA.EDU) wrote:
: John Heenan wrote:
: > 
: > a lot of stuff
: >
: 
: John:
: 
: You sound like a very bitter, angry person.  You must be a joy to be 
: around.  Why did you post this trash to sci.research?
: ___________________________________
: Richard J. Logan, Ph.D.
: University of Georgia Research Foundation, Inc.
Why don't you address the issues instead of making silly unsubstantiated 
comments that serve to reinforce my points.
Why did you respond with trash?  What are you?  A failed researcher who 
has found consolation and power in administrating research grants to 
those who have spent their valuable hours writing humiliating submissions 
for research grants?
John
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Subject: US academic persecutes a dissident
From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:32:26 GMT
William A. T. Clark (clark.31@osu.edu) wrote:
: In article , john@heenan.ironbark.id.au
: (John Heenan) wrote:
: > This posting is simply to correct one word below marked with ^^^^^^^
: > towards the end.  Willaim, the academic, has got so petty, I am
: > reduced to this!
: Actually, no. It is all too apparent that Mr. Heenan, the paranoid, is
: completely off his rocker, and is not worth replying too any further. From
: now on "sticks and stones....".
: Pathetic.
: William Clark
Actually it is all too apperent how irrational, pathetic and incapable
of balanced judgement of Willaim, the academic at Ohio State University in
the US, is!
William is reinforcing many of the points I have been making about
academia, including pettiness!  Now what am I supposed to be paranoid
and 'off my rocker' about?  Like a dissident, I have publically
expressed views about universities that are not publically admitted to
by university staff.  These views are worth expressing.  It is
threatening to the 'powers that be' in universites to express them
publically.  It is abusive to dismiss my expression of these views as
symptomathic of mental illness.  It is somewhat akin to the attitude
that put dissidents in psychiatric hospitals!  I wonder if William
worships some ideology akin to that held by the university Markists
and would like to have me committed as occurred formerly to dissidents
in communist countries!
Additionally I have asserted views that are somewhat unique, such as
that the arts in universities enforce rigid conformity to style or
form that is opposite to their real stated purposes.  This serves
unstated middle class and business values of being able to maintain
value for a purpose other than that to which the purpose of the value
really applies (marketing techniques in business come immediately to
mind as an example).  The form or style becomes important, rather than
the content (crudely expressed as 'appearance or image is all').  The
arts have no real substance, but a pretence is kept up that they do.
As long as the pretence of substance is maintained, diversity of
opinion is tolerated.  It is clear that my points are reasonable and
have worth.  However they do not accept the delusioned values of worth
in the university arts world, that teaches and tests the valuable
qualities of exagerrated expression of substance which cannot be
substantiated.
Under the conditions above we can expect irrational judgements and
picking up om minor and irrelevant points to dismiss the value of
statements.  In this posting we have seen the irrational from Willaim,
while in quotes below from a former posting, we see William dismissing
the worth of statements on the basis of a really petty point.  It is
clear William cannot be trusted to form reliable judgements.
Some more points on the relation between university culture and work
culture.  The important point is conformity to a style that promotes
what cannot be substantiated.  I have seen Williams type of attitidue
at work in work envoirnments.  It is well known the way to get ahead
in work is to embrace the culture and views of those superior to you
in the organisation, despite appearing to embrace these views on more
substantive grounds.  'Licking up' is a common term used.  There are
well known variations on this description.  You can see the most
ridiculous reports in work environments that pretend to have research
type quality simply by using the appropriate style of expression. You
can also see the most ridiculous judgements made on people, with
either no, or very weak, substantation, when those people are prepared
to expose the ineptness of their superiors and organisation.
We can see much of the university style in the statements made by
university trained economists in the popular media.  Statements that
are remarkably pompous, are expressed using the right mix of jargon,
but with very little of substance to support them.
Interesting headline in today's 'Sydney Morning Herald' of 11/9/96. It
states 'Universities set to lose jobs for life' The by line is Luis
M. Garcia, Higher Education Writer and the first paragraph reads:
"The alliance between vice-chancellors and the peak academic union was
in tatters last night after the university chiefs decided to
publically support the Federal Government's industrial relations
reforms, which may end guaranteed jobs for life for academics."
Would be rather a big change for institutions who have managed to keep
many of their ways intact since their origins in medieval religious
practice.  To quote Bob Dylan some 30 years on, out of context: "Times
are a changing"
For the benefit of the new groups I am also posting this to, I have
included copies of earlier postings
An individual mentioned, US Swimmer Janet Evans, was suppposed to hav
espent a short time at Stanford University.  From a publication I read
in 1988/1989, the impression I had was that she attended a non
university college whose students had the use of facilites belonging
to Stanford University.
QUOTES FROM POSTING REPLIED TO:
************************************************************
: > 
: > John
: > 
: > John Heenan (john@heenan.ironbark.id.au) wrote:
: > : : >> This guy (who identified himself in a former post as a faculty member
: > : : >> at a US university) doesn't when to give up!  Is he one of those all
: > : : >> too common academics who has never done any decent research in his
: > : : >
: > : : >Au contraire, mon ami, I consider myself anything but common. 
: > 
: > : Is this an implicit acceptance by the academic of my taboo statement
: > : of the all too common academics who have never done any decent
: > : research?
: > 
: > : : >
: > : : >> life but is more than willing to pontificate on how to do research?
: > : : >> How do great researchers know which facts and evidence to look for to
: > : : >> effectively evaluate and advance their
: > : : >> hypotheses/theories/speculations unless they are operating within a
: > : : >> speculative framework in the first place?
: > : : >> 
: > : : >> Now I don't know what basic tenet the academic is referring to.  If
: > : : >> anyone believes it is impossible for private universities to possibly
: > : : >> have double standards as indicated then they are naieve.
: > : : >
: > : : >Repeat after me - USC = University of Southern California - private
: > : : >                  UCLA= University of California, Los Angeles - public.
: > : : >
: > : : >It's hard to take someone's opinions seriously when they don't even have
: > : : >the most basic facts straight. Rule one of good research - speculate, but
: > : : >from a firm and correct foundation.
: > 
: > : Ah shucks, boys and girls, be good and repeat after William...
: > 
: > : It good resaerch practice to be clear about what is being referred to.
: > : How many decent researchers have such a set of numbered rules they
: > : work to?  The above is typical patronising, pointless and petty
: > : academic bickering that academics appear to love to indulge in.  So
: > : what that I made a mistake.  The mistake goes in my favour.  It is
: > : irrelevant to the main thrust.  Maybe the academic doesn't realise
: > : that most scientific or knowledge advances are eventually regarded as
: > : incorrect in the light of later advances.
: > 
: > : : >> At any rate the issue of Evans education is irrelevant to the main
: > : : >> issues.
: > 
: > : : >> Does this academic expect a simple but humble apology for every
: > : : >> mistake his students make?  So I made an error, the error in fact may
: > : : >> go in my favour.  Does he aplogise for every mistake he makes.
: > : : >
: > : : >If they challenge (and insult) mine or anyone else's position using
: > : : >incorrect facts then of course I would. Debate is central to advancing
: > : : >knowledge, but it should be based on sound information. You have demeaned
: > : : >Stanford, USC, and UCLA (and I'm sure many other institutions) while
: > : : >indicating that you have not the slightest clue where they rank in any 
: > : : >hieracrchy of universities. The fact that they are all world-class
: > : : >universities, defined by opinions far more systematic and impartial than
: > : : >yours seems to be of little account.
: > 
: > : Again: negative marks!
: > 
: > : Even the inefficient and paranoid can be ranked and have their pecking
: >                            ^^^^^^^^ 
: > The marked word above was supposed to be 'parasitic', not 'paranoid'.
: > Now we don't William going off his brain again demanding apoligies for
: > implying he is inefficient and parasitic, do we?
: > 
: > : order!  I don't give a stuff about your university rankings, and don't
: > : get paranoid (or maybe do). THE FACT IS I DEMEAN ALL UNIVERSITES AND
: > : THEIR LARGELY INEFFICIENT AND PARASITIC STAFF, WILL NOT APOLIGISE FOR
: > : IT AND WILL CONTINUE TO SCORN AND MOCK AS THE OPPURTUNITY PRESENTS
: > : ITSELF FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.  Being ranked more highly because of a
: > : few exceptional individuals, who can effectively guide the research of
: > : a few mediocre researchers does not alter any of my comments.
: > 
: > : John
COPIES OF EARLIER POSTINGS:
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From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Subject: Re: Michelle Smith and the drug rumours
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:17:43 GMT
Following are some clarifying background statements before possibly
further silly common abuse reaches my news server that provides a
false and pathetic excuses not to appreciate the quality of my
statements!
1.  The problem of quality of university output with abuse of public
funds is world wide, not just confined to the US.
2.  Universites see their primary function as advancing knowledge, not
teaching.  The fact that they advance knowledge inefficently is
irrelevant to the way they see themselves.
3.  In the context of a university, the definition of a 'good student'
is boringly evident.  In the context of the arts themselves it has
little relevance.  Universites can be regarded to have institutionally
parasitised the arts, having tamed and subverted them to serve
unspoken middle class and business ideals such as 'appearance is all'
or 'style not substance'.  Despite the posturing of universites to
independent thought in the arts, they in fact impose a discipline of
rigid conformity to style amidst appearance to the contrary.  Ideal
qualities for an employee!
4.  The following paragraph is just some speculative ideas I am
throwing out.
Originality is diffficult, dangerous and subversive.  Very few
individuals are capable of conducting effective truly original thought
in universities.  Exam results and IQ correlate poorly with quality of
originality.  It must be controlled and rigidly channelled.  The only
real vehicles for expression of originality in universites for
students is under highly controlled postgraduate conditions in 'hard'
disciplines under near penniless conditions.  It can be pirated by
senior staff.  The most original individuals appear to be marginalised
and alienated, and not to appear to be part of their university.
5.  It is a fact that the mainstream public view of Bill Gates is that
he is a hero genius entrpreneur who cares.  Just because others have
other views does not mean it is not a mainstram view or that any of
the views are correct.
6.  I have been informed USC is a private college.  Good.  There is
speculation as to a set of double standards by private colleges
towards high profile and very rich students as opposed to ordinary
students.
THE POSTING BELOW WAS INCLUDED AS A QUOTE IN POSTING ABOVE
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From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Subject: Re: Michelle Smith and the drug rumours
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:22:06 GMT
Ah yes, an ignorant abusive response from an academic dinosaur!  He is
actually doing work for me in that his ignorant points reinforce the
whole point of my posting!  Ordinarily I wouldn't bother replying to
such insignificant rubbish.  However the work done for me and the
unwarranted esteem such patronising elitist self agrandizing twits are
held in leads me to make an exception!  Read on!
Additionally, as a member of the public concerned at the horrific
waste of public monies on providing expensive resources to privileged
university staff with low quality and quantity output, questionable
teaching methodoligies and standards, and poisonous elitist culture, I
cannot let a US university faculty member's ignorant and uninfomed
remarks go unanswered.
William A. T. Clark (clark.31@osu.edu) wrote:
: As a faculty member at A US university, I cannot let the ignorant and
: uninformed remarks made in theis post go by unanswered. If Mr Heenan is
: really interested in informed debate, then perhaps he should begin by
: informing himself.
Oh, setting the tone with a boring ignorant introduction.  Yawn.
Nothing original there.  Negative marks!
: In article <4vp69a$om4@inferno.mpx.com.au>, john@heenan.ironbark.id.au wrote:
: > I intend having some fun in this ghastly thread.  If you persist in
: > reading through this posting you will see a comparison between two all
: > american heroes, Janet Evans and Bill gates!
: >
: > John
: >
: > RunnSwim (runnswim@aol.com) wrote:
: > : In article <4vc9mn$7l@inferno.mpx.com.au>, datam@mpx.com.au (John Heenan)
: > : writes:
: > :
: > : >Janet Evans, according to information I read in Swimming World years
: > : >ago, did not attend Stanford University on a degree couse.  I
: > : >understood she was in a program that leads to a degree course.  So
: > : >that may not be what is called a 'prep school', so what.  She left
: > : >soon after starting, not in a pre Olympic year.
: > :
: > : Janet Evans is not the dimwit Heenan is cruelly trying to portray. She
: > : left Stanford (and college swimming) when the NCAA proposed passing a
: > : ruling limiting workouts of student athletes to 24 hours per week.
: >
: > So she left on a proposal and not on a ruling.  If Texas (see below) was
: > better to train at, why didn't she enroll there in the first place!  If
: > Stanford was better, why not stay at Stanford after dropping out.
: > Additionally she refused to take on endorsements after the 1988 Olympics
: > in order to retain College eligibility.  So now she has lost both College
: > eligibility by dropping out and her endorsment offers.  If changes are
: > going to be made in a program, it is considered they should only affect
: > those who have not yet on the program.  Of course Evans must have had no
: > idea such a 24 hour ruling might be imposed before she started and then
: > assumed it would affect her if implemented, even though it should only
: > affect those who have not yet started!  All seems rather strange!
: Not in the least - the NCAA introduced these rulings to protect football
: and basketball players, and get them into the classroom. No one seruiosly
: considered the consequences for swimmers who spend many hours in the pool,
: but are better able to balance this with school work because they can
: train at hours oputsinde the academic day.
Well it just goes to show incompetently universites run themselves and
take care of their students.  Allowing the NCAA to change the rules
midway and failing to consider special cases is a joke.
: >
: >I pointed out she was not
: > enrolled in a degree program at Stanford, that she dropped out, has been
: > called a '100% moron' (not by me) and that on this basis we have little to
: > suppose Evans' father is a genius!
: If she was not enrolled in a dgree program, she would not have been
: eligible to swim for Stanford under NCAA rules. You must be "making
: progress towards a degree (not a "pre-degree") to stay eligible, and it is
: checked on rigorously at top schools like Stanford.
The above does not contradict what I have asserted and learnt from
'Swimming World' magazine.  The standard time to complete a standard
bachelors degree is four years.  If on a course that will lead to the
same standard degree in a longer time due to a substandard SAT score
for the normal time to complete degree, then the NCAA requirements are
still met.  By no stretch of the imagination can such a person be
regarded, using conventional standards, as attending a real degree
course, when they start it.
The academic has provided no useful information to resolve this
matter.  More negative marks!
: > : Jim Nabor reported that she had a good scholastic record at Stanford and
: > : that scholastics had absolutely nothing to do with her leaving. She went
: > : on to enroll at Texas to train with a famous coach and later transferred
: > : to USC, when that coach, Mark Schubert, took the head coaching job there.
: > : She was a good student at USC, and graduated a year or so ago with a
: > : communications degree, if I remember correctly.
: >
: > What does 'good student' at USC mean?  That she turned up for her classes
: > and was polite and non confrontational during tutorials?  How horrific to
: > be labelled a 'good student' in the arts!  Congratulations to Janet that
: > she had a 'good scholastic record' at her non degree course at Stanford.
: > It means damn all.
: Now we start with sneering invective. Some quite inteliigent people have
: degrees in the arts, and it is not Mr. Heenan's place to define what "good
: student" defines; especially from a position of such total ignorance.
I know intelligent people have arts degrees.  The term 'good student'
has no real definition or meaning in the context of arts.  It is an
embarrassment in that it has connotations of good behaviour, obedient
study and conformity to a common set of values.  This is not relevant
to the problems and issues that the arts attempt to grapple with.
: >
: > So it took her 7 or so years to graduate with a soft degree from a state
: > college which may specialise in ensuring people on sports scholarships get
: > some sort of paper qualification in something that won't embarrass the
: > College if any scholarly knowledge is required to be be demonstrated.
: Now we start the REALLY ignorant part. 1) Stanford is NOT a state
: university, but a private one. 2) It ranks among the top ten college in
: the United States, and has very high academic standards, to go with  a
: record of achievement on athletics, too. The two are not necessarily
: mutually incompatible in this coutry - perhaps they are where you come
: from.
SUCH IGNORANCE!  I know Stanford is a private university.  I stated
Evans graduated from USC, a state College.  So doesn't bother to read
my posts and sounds off!  More neagative marks!
As for the ignorant remark about my country.  How silly and stupid!
Nothing useful there.  Tut tut!  Such appalling standards!
:
: >>
: > 1.  Evans and Gates dropped out of college.  How intelligent are they?
: >
: > We know both dropped out of College.  Dropping out of College does not
: > of course point to lack of intelligence, admission standards usually
: > are set to ensure this is not an issue.  Gates was in a real degree
: > course, Evans wasn't.  So presumably Gates did better on the IQ
: > admissions test than Evans (known as the SAT or Scholastic Aptitude
: > Test).  Have Gates and Evans SAT scores being divulged to the public?
: > Now I reckon to fail to get into a real degree course at a private
: > university when on a sports scholarship points to some serious doubts
: > by the administration as to suitability for a degree course.  She may
: > have left over humilation over this.
: >
: > So what did Evans do when she dropped out?  Evans joined another coach
: > at a Southern University.
: If you are referring to her current enrollment at USC, that is not a
: "southern university", and I don't think she ever enrolled at Texas. As
: far as I know she is about to graduate from USC, and has talked about
: going to law school. Now, whatever we feel about lawyers and law schools,
: the ones at good schools at hard to get into.
If the academic read the thread then he would realise that Janet only
trained at Texas, then followed her coach to USC, enrolled there and
graduated in communications!  Quite a joke given her public interviews
on television and the way she has inflamed the Chinese, leading them
to believe she is a moron.
: >Evans refused endoresements after the 1988 Olympics,
: > before entering College, perhaps so as not to jeporadise some College
: > eligibility.
: >
: > In conclusion we can say there is evidenece Gates is bright and can
: > exloit oppurtunuty.  We cannot say the same about Evans.  Gates
: > dropped out of College and exploited oppurtunity. Evans had
: > oppurtunity before College and failed to exploit it.
: See comments re graduation - this is a stupid and puerile comparison.
What a silly comment!  What I stated is of course an entertaining and
relevant comment!
: >
: >
: > 2.  What is the image of Evans compared to Gates?
: >
: > Evans comes across as a vivacous but vulnerable 'girl next door'.  The
: > idea of her cheating is inconceviable on the basis of her image.
: >
: > Gates comes across as a caring, crusading, genius US entrpreneur, who
: > brought user friendly computing to the masses.  He successfully
: > challenged the supremacy of IBM in the commercial world.
: Then you have been sound asleep. Gates is reknowned as one of the most
: determined and avaricious businissmen in the US. He has engineered a
: succession of moves that have effectively, and quite deliberately,
: destroyed his business rivals. He has a reputation for hiring and firing
: Microsoft employees on a whim. No one disputes his contributions to
: personal computing (apart from the fact that his power has forced the
: computing world to stick to outdated DOS-based systems), but his warm
: fuzzines should at least be tempered by some small grasp on reality.
So this ignorant academic has failed to read what I read.  Maybe the
academic is such an elitist that he doesn't regard general image and
perception held by 'the masses' as a legitimate expression of an
image!  I stated there are corners of the internet were Bill Gates is
regarded as an 'antichrist'.  Well you now see correct my assertion
is!  I mentioned the anti trust suit brought by the US government.
Anyway the academic has unwittingly reinforced my point!  That is that
image and reality can differ incredibly.  The image of Evans is such
that it is inconceviable to cheat.  However their is circumstantial
evidence otherwise and we can see how different reality is from image!
I might also add you can also see how the image of academics does not
comform to the reality as evident in this posting!
: Hope some of this helps you get a slightly clearer view of the US (always
: assuming that you want one;-))
Marks for this academic: off the scale in the negative direction!
I have been provided with more ammunition against a largely parasitic
community.
John Heenan
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From: john@heenan.ironbark.id.au (John Heenan)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:02:01 GMT
William A. T. Clark (clark.31@osu.edu) wrote:
: In article , john@heenan.ironbark.id.au
: (John Heenan) wrote:
: > Oh good! USC is private!  There is interesting speculation as to the
: > flexibilty or double standards of private universites with regard to
: > their standards for high profile and very rich students as opposed to
: > 'ordinary' students!
: Speculation in the absence of facts and evidence may be a self-gratifying
: experience, but it largely pointless. This is all the more so when a basic
: tenet of the argument is so simply and completely wrong.
This guy (who identified himself in a former post as a faculty member
at a US university) doesn't when to give up!  Is he one of those all
too common academics who has never done any decent research in his
life but is more than willing to pontificate on how to do research?
How do great researchers know which facts and evidence to look for to
effectively evaluate and advance their
hypotheses/theories/speculations unless they are operating within a
speculative framework in the first place?
Now I don't know what basic tenet the academic is referring to.  If
anyone believes it is impossible for private universities to possibly
have double standards as indicated then they are naieve.
At any rate the issue of Evans education is irrelevant to the main
issues.
: > 
: > John
: > 
: > Kevin Metcalfe (metcalfe@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us) wrote:
: > : John Heenan (john@heenan.ironbark.id.au) wrote:
: > : : 
: > : : SUCH IGNORANCE!  I know Stanford is a private university.  I stated
: > : : Evans graduated from USC, a state College.  So doesn't bother to read
: > : : my posts and sounds off!  More neagative marks!
: Like I said, a simple, but humble, apology will suffice.
Does this academic expect a simple but humble apology for every
mistake his students make?  So I made an error, the error in fact may
go in my favour.  Does he aplogise for every mistake he makes.
[snip]
John
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From: sad@sydney.DIALix.oz.au (John Heenan)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.infinity
Date: 24 Aug 1996 16:21:30 +1000
Subject: Re: alt.infinity
Frank (frank@knarf.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article , lunaslide
:  writes
:
: >Does the lack of posts in alt.infinity denote a common (encouraging)
: >admittance of non-understanding?  Or has it just been done to death?
:
: Assumption: The universe is infinte.
This statement has no value without further qualification.  It provides no
basis on which to make any further statements.  More useful statements
might be:  The universe has an infinite amount of mass and according to
conventional notions of space, extends infinitely in all directions with
no defined centre.  This infinite amount of mass has resonance effects
that give rise to populist notions of a 'big bang' origin.  What are
popularly interpreted as Einsteinan notions of time and space are are
simply an abuse of predictions arising from theories associated with the
property of matter.  Quantum mechanics does not state sub atomic
particles have free will.  Quantum mecahanics provides a statistical
estimate of the amount of uncertaintity of measurement.  Not being able
to measure to an infinitesmal measure of accuracy does not mean there is
free will.
:
: Any number divided by infinty is zero. Therefore if you attempt to find
: the distribution of the universes' population, by dividing the total
: number of peolpe by the area, the answer is zero.
If the universe has infinite mass and the universe has a finite population
then the density of people is zero.  Not a useful calculation.  If the
population is infinite then the calculation is useless.  Taking a known
finite area enables an estimate people density for that area.
:
: Therefore, the population of the universe is zero, and anyone you may
: meet is a figment of your non-existant imagination ;-)
Likewise you are a figment of your own imagination.
John
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Subject: EXERCISE & VO2 MAX IN RATS/MICE
From: physiology@colinst.com (PG)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 96 20:02:10 GMT
For exercise research, we developed enclosed treadmill and VO2/VCO2
metabolic computer for measuring oxygen consumption and CO2 production
during exercise of rats or mice. Each animal compartment has its individual
exercise belt and its speed is precisely controlled. To entice animal to run
each lane is equipped with special electric shocker. Alternative air puff or
cold water stimulus are also available. Multiple animals can be exercised and
measured at the same time. Belts inclination is variable to adjust animal work.
If you are interested about this device, please e-mail your street address. I will
be happy to send you all information.
GHOSH
Internet: 75144.2413@compuserve.com
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Subject: Electronic publication is TOO rapid
From: R Jones
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:17:19 -0700
A survey of the www makes it clear that electronic publication encourages 
us to publish too quickly, without having put enough thought into our 
work.  How disastrous this can be was made apparent in the old "cold 
fusion" flap.
R. Jones
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Subject: Developer info requested.
From: "Joseph King"
Date: 18 Sep 96 11:04:42 -0600
Our company makes re-usable software components and we need to be able to
find ways of getting exposure for our components in our key markets. The
three components we have now are intended for individuals who program their
own applications in the scientific and engineering fields. Two of them
allow people to organize large amounts of data in hierarchical
relationships like that used in modeling real world entities. Our content
model is robust, quick and flexible and is a means of opening up one's data
to other applications via scripting or through integration with other
software components. The biggest virtue of our components is that they are
solid, well-tested and perform well defined functions while retaining
enormous flexibility.
That is the context. One of the things I would greatly appreciate
suggestions on is how to get the attention of individuals who write their
own apps in the sci-tech/engineering fields. One of the thoughts I had was
that alot of the products that find their way out into the market in the
chemistry fields is inside research institutions, goverment organizations,
and academic institutions. The question is, how to get their attention?
Help is appreciated.
jking.
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Subject: A Two Year Research Project with Bursary.
From: steph@ms.ic.ac.uk (S.M. Marchand)
Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:16:53 GMT
A Two Year Research Project with Bursary.
This project offers the opportunity to apply quantitative approaches to
modelling the diffusion and codification of knowledge and competence within
and between organisations.  Understanding of this process is key to the
effective management of research and development programmes.  The output of
the project will be a prototype simulation model with potential uses in
management training and business gaming.
The successful applicant will be expected to register for an MPhil degree
and have a background in operational research, mathematics or a related area.
Interested applicants should send a cv to Dr Nigel Meade, The Management
School, Imperial College, London SW7 2PG by post or EMail (nme@ic.ac.uk) by
7 October 1996.
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Subject: Telecommuting Research
From: username@amber.cqu.edu.au (your name)
Date: 19 Sep 1996 06:09:28 GMT
We are students, Deneille Provost and Jodie Reibel, of the Central 
Queensland University, Rockhampton Campus, Queensland Australia.
This questionnaire has been developed as part of research into the 
success 
of telecommuting programs.  
Your completion of this survey is requested and will be greatly 
appreciated. 
The sending of this document will imply your informed consent in 
participating in our research questionnaire.
We do not need to know your organisation, however we are interested in 
your 
position therefore please enter your job title.
Job Title 
____________________________________________________________________
To indicate your response to the questions please insert an 'X' after 
the 
appropriate number.
Please e-mail the response to our e-mail address which is:
q9202528@amber.cqu.edu.au
Question                                    Strongly Agree Disagree 
Strongly
                                             Agree                  
Disagree
1. Employees need to be told what tasks to        1       2      3     
   4   
   perform.                                                            
2. The quality of my employees work is            1       2      3     
   4   
   irrelevant to the supervision I provide.                            
3. My presence at the office is essential for     1       2      3     
   4   
   providing support to my employees.                                  
4. I trust my employees to work productively      1       2      3     
   4   
   when I am not present.                                              
5. Employees should be incorporated into the      1       2      3     
   4   
   problem-solving processes.                                          
6. Employees working from home still work to      1       2      3     
   4   
   their full potential.                                               
7. I feel that employees accomplish more at       1       2      3     
   4   
   the workplace.                                                      
8. Employees should decide when tasks should      1       2      3     
   4   
   be completed.                                                       
9. I allow employees to make suggestions but      1       2      3     
   4   
   I make the final decisions.                                         
10. Employees produce high quality work because   1       2      3     
   4   
    of the supervision I provide.                                      
11. Working from home decreases employees         1       2      3     
   4   
    abilities to effectively network with other                        
    employees.                                                         
12. Employees are capable of working well         1       2      3     
   4  
    without supervision.                                               
13. I ensure that employees tasks are             1       2      3     
   4  
    accomplished.                                                      
14. My presence at the office ensures my          1       2      3     
   4
    employees are productive.                     
15. I believe that employees that physically      1       2      3     
   4   
    present at the office are more productive.    
16. I encourage my employees to involved in the   1       2      3     
   4   
    decision-making process.                                           
17. I trust employees to carry out their tasks    1       2      3     
   4   
    with full autonomy.                                                
18. Employees require high levels of              1       2      3     
   4   
    supervision.                                                       
19. I have more trust in my employees when I      1       2      3     
   4   
    can view them working.                                             
20. Working from home decreases employees         1       2      3     
   4   
    abilities to effectively network with                              
    professionals in the same field.              
21. I do not need to be visually present to       1       2      3     
   4   
    provide my employees with support.            
22. Employees working from home do not work to    1       2      3     
   4   
    their full potential.                                              
23. Telecommuting is not worth losing valuable    1       2      3     
   4   
    employees from the workplace.                                      
24. I prefer to provide employees with constant   1       2      3     
   4   
    supervision on the tasks that I set them.                          
25. Stress levels would be reduced for employees  1       2      3     
   4   
    working from home.                                                 
26. Employees working from home will still be     1       2      3     
   4   
    fully integrated with the workplace.                               
27. Employees are responsible for completing      1       2      3     
   4   
    their own tasks.                                                   
28. My employees are less likely to produce high  1       2      3     
   4   
    quality work when I am not their.                                  
29. The cost savings of telecommuting outweigh    1       2      3     
   4   
    any disadvantages of telecommuting.                                
30. Working from home decreases employees         1       2      3     
   4   
    abilities to effectively network with                              
    clients/customers.                                                 
31. Employees need to be continually reminded     1       2      3     
   4   
    of when work is due.                                               
32. I believe employees working from home would   1       2      3     
   4   
    be subject to too many distractions.                               
33. I find it easier to manage autonomous         1       2      3     
   4   
    workers.                                                           
34. Most employees are responsible enough to      1       2      3     
   4   
    work productively from home.                                       
35. Employees working from home are more          1       2      3     
   4   
    productive than employees working at the                           
    office.                                       
Thankyou for your participation in the questionnaire. Please be 
watching your 
newsgroup for the results of the research in the coming months.
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Subject: Re: Universities: centres of cultural and financial parasitism (with particular reference to physics and the arts) Was: Re: US academic persecutes a dissident
From: bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce Scott TOK )
Date: 19 Sep 1996 16:41:54 GMT
John Heenan (john@heenan.ironbark.id.au) wrote:
[...]
: It really is time to wage long overdue and just war on academia!  I am
: having difficulty getting the war going!  
(1) He identifies his cause (2) He finds that his cause has no resonance
among others
:                                           This posting is being
: directed to newsgroups with a legitimate interest in matters
: discussed.  Some sports groups are included as it was from these
: groups quoted material below originated in.
I'm surprised you let that Janet Evans/Michelle Smith stuff from
rec.sport.* get to you so badly.  Just let it drop and put it behind
you, and get on with things.  I hope it helps you be happier.
BTW, I am posting from sci.physics.particle, where I wouldn't have
expected to find this.  Please take it out.
Followups set out of sci.*
--
Mach's gut!
Bruce Scott                                Congratulations to
bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de                    Ghada Shouaa,
Max-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik      Olympic heptathlon champion!
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Subject: Re: Miracle pipe remedy!!!
From: pendlewe@wfu.edu (Bill Pendleton)
Date: 19 Sep 1996 14:36:28 GMT
I saw one of the devices, your description is sufficient. 
Just one question:
Assuming the device works, and it consists of a magnet on a 3/4" pipe, where 
does the limestone go? Or what is the chemical reaction that changes the 
nature of the ions to make them inert to subsequent materials? What is the 
source of the reacting ions? 
Bill P
Don Wilkins (dwilkins@orion.polaristel.net) wrote:
: On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:05:31 +0100, Paul Greenwood
:  wrote:
: >I have recently fallen victim to the expensive task of replacing parts in 
: >my central heating boiler because of a build up of limescale rendering 
: >the heat exchanger useless!
: >
: >I have seen on the market a device which claims to eliminate this. As far 
: >as I can see, it is just a magnet which wraps around the cold water feed. 
: >I cannot see any way in which this could possibly work - but, being an 
: >engineer I will not dismiss it until I really know whether it is a load 
: >of crap or not.
: >
: >CAN ANYBODY SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS???
: >
: Why not post a summary of your replies. I vote for pure unadulterated
: scam.
--
Bill 
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