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On Sun 12/29/96 00:11 GMT Eric Lucas wrote:
   
> It is true, and always has been, that there is no scientific discovery
> that's worth dying for.
> 
Hello, Eric:
There are, of course, those who would disagree with you on this point.
Many individuals dedicate themselves to scientific discovery and other
long-term pursuits.  And many die of both natural and unnatural causes
before attaining their goal.
If you haven't found anything worth dying for yet, look around:  You may
get lucky.  :-)
-- 
Alan
When you have a quiet moment, seek egolessness and remember that the
human body and nervous system are merely the organic user interfaces
that interpret holonomic materiality for a unique transcendental entity
that emerges reciprocally within the pre-existing vital energy of
uncreated absolute pure being.

If you care about science and decision-making based on
research, here is another chapter in the continuing outrageous
story of medical marijuana. 
General McCaffrey said yesterday:
> McCaffrey said the plan would make clear that while federal law has not changed, government medical
> authorities will continue to examine the purported benefits of any drug, including marijuana. 
The "continue to examine" part must be a hallucination by McCaffrey.
I don't believe he would tell a lie that huge deliberately. Or
would he?
The truth is: a small eight-patient pilot study that would be
a precursor to a full-sized controlled study on marijuana's effects
of people with AIDS has been forbidden for years by ther Clinton
administration. The only testing the Clinton administration has
"continued" is research on better urinalysis and how to drug-test your
hair without your cooperation.
Their stated reason for continuing to refuse the proposed pilot study
by UCSF AIDS research Donald Abrams has been "we already know marijuana
is not a medicine and therefore the research is not needed."
> But he said doctors who prescribe illegal drugs would be prosecuted or removed from the federal
> registry that allows them to write prescriptions. He said the administration remains confident American
> medicine offers better remedies to deal with pain than prescribing illegal drugs. 
If he is so confident then why won't they allow the research?????

> "In essence we see them as a violation of the scientific process that has brought America the safest and
> most effective medicines in the world," McCaffrey said. "And we're enormously concerned because of
> the potential for increased drug abuse in these two states." 
I find it highly offensive for this administration to try
to take the "scientific" side of this debate, after what they
have done.
They have effectively outlawed any research that could prove marijuana
has medical effects that can compete quite well with those of
legal medicines.
They cannot claim to be champions of science if they have played
their card in the debate by forbidding the other side to do
the needed research.
Sincerely,
Patricia Schwarz

It should go without saying that in the petrochemical (and related) 
industries, small screw-ups lead to big consequences in a hurry.  The best 
protection against this requires operations and maintenance personal to 
always think (usually more than once) before performing their jobs.  This 
trajedy (see below) sounds very much like a case of familiarity breeding 
contempt.
In article <32C18182.49C0@clihouston.com>,
   "Russell D. Kane"  wrote:
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>From: "Russell D. Kane" 
>Newsgroups: 
sci.chem,sci.chem.electrochem,sci.chemistry,sci.eng.mech,sci.engr,sci.engr.
chem,sci.engr.manufacturing,sci.engr.mech,sci.engr.metallurgy,sci.geo.petro
leum,sci.materials,sci.materials.ceramics,sci.misc,sci.polymers,sci.researc
h,sci.engr.safety
>Subject: Needless Loss of Eight Lives Working with High Pressure
>Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:33:22 -0600
>Organization: CLI International, Inc.
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>Status: N
>
>See the excerpt from the Houston Chronicle article on the explosion at
>the Wyman Gordon plant in Houston at the Web Site given below.  The men
>had opened the system many times before and thought that the system was
>depressurized. The pressure gage was many feet away from where they were
>opening the vessel....so that they could not see that it was actually
>under 5,000 psi.
>
>http://www.clihouston.com/tragedy.htm
>
>Safety awareness is an important part in any business operation.
>

In article <32C7BEAA.2BA2@vasilisa.com> Patricia M. Schwarz (violette@vasilisa.com) wrote:
: If you care about science and decision-making based on
: research, here is another chapter in the continuing outrageous
: story of medical marijuana. 
: 
: General McCaffrey said yesterday:
: 
: > McCaffrey said the plan would make clear that while federal law has not changed, government medical
: > authorities will continue to examine the purported benefits of any drug, including marijuana. 
[snip]
Personally, I am more concerned about the issue of democracy here.  This
is not simply a science thing, but essentially the cancellation of a vote
by the people of two states.
I can in fact understand this WRT other people, for instance the
sidelining of gays in Colorado and Oregon.  This nation is in fact a
majority rule one, but strong on minority rights.  However this is not a
rights issue.  This is an issue of the use of property by citizens, and
the right of those citizens to democratically determine just what use is
appropriate. 
Somehow, I think if these feds go through with their stated intentions,
they should just shut up about Serbia.  After all is said an done, they
are cancelling an election, just as Slobidon Milosovich (sp?) has.
Pretty sad if you ask me.  And since the Constitution is written on hemp
paper, it will be a long time getting the shit off it from these people
wiping their ass with it.
A four star general, eh?  It really is a war against the people now, isn't
it.
--
John M. Price, PhD        jmprice@calweb.com     jmprice@worldnet.att.net
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!   |   PGP Key on request or by finger!
The intelligence of any discussion diminishes with the square of the
number of participants.
               - Adam Walinsky

Good afternoon,
	I’m a MScEE final year student. My dissertation is about the
"Reliability Testing Using Environmental Stress Screening Approach for
the Electronic Equipments", particular in vibration testing instead of
temperature cycling.
	As you know, temperature cycling can obtain significant results in
testing, but vibration is not the case. Only minority paper / journals
talking about the vibration testing survey / methods.
	The vibration shaker that I use in the lab. Can produce up to 10G
acceleration force and max. 12.5mm displacement. However, even I mounted
the component (a 28pin DIP I.C.) at the center of a small
egoxy-fiberglass PCB (4" x 5") and a fixture with 4 edges fixed and
vibrate it using 7G acceleration and 6mm displacement. The relative
motion between the component and the PCB seems very small.
	In theory, the 28pin DIP will have accumulate fatigue and would be
failed after 10 hours if I using the above settings… but in practice
even I continue the test over 3 days… nothing happened!!
	Can anyone know what’s wrong that I encountered. Would you pls. Give me
some suggestion?
	Any comments are welcome. Even another vibration testing approach, test
report or test procedure recommended are also welcome.
	Thanks a lot.
Best Regards,
Victor Shum
email: sicomvs@hk.super.net

In <5a7npi$pqc$1@news.calweb.com> jmprice@calweb.com (John M Price)
writes: 
>
>Personally, I am more concerned about the issue of democracy here. 
This
>is not simply a science thing, but essentially the cancellation of a
vote
>by the people of two states.
>
   No, it's exactly an issue of democracy: the vote of the country as a
whole is cancelling the votes of two states.  That issue was decided in
a minor altercation called the Americal Civil War (1861-1865).
   The big problem with democracy, and the one that has never been
solved (may never be solved) is: how do you decide the size of the
group whose "vote" sets laws that all must follow?  Where are the
boundaries?  Obviously they can't be set democratically, because you
need to decide them BEFORE democracy can begin.
   History has suggested that the way to set voting boundaries is for
people to kill each other until they are tired of it.  Boundaries are
then the stand-off lines.  I confess that I haven't been able to come
up with another solution.  How about you?
   When the Civil War started, it was said of Georgia that it was too
small to be a country, too large to be a lunatic asylum.  The same is
certainly not true of California-- it would make a fine country
(something like 7th in GNP in the world).  That's one solution-- but
again, who decides?  Back to the original question.
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Michael David Burgoyne wrote:
> 
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> 0.02mm  (0.0008") on each side.
I know Measurex measures such coatings, so they must know of a coater. 
Try http://www.measurex.com, if that doesn't work let me know.
				Randy Phillips	
				Senior Engineer
				Measurex Japan

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Anonymous wrote:
> 
> Paul Ennin M.D. wrote:
> >
> > Hello all I am a new suscriber to your news group.  I am a new engineer
> > and I am looking for a job.
> > Can anyone help.
> > In NY area especially!!!
> 
> I do not know about the New York area, but in the St. Louis area there
> are no entry level positions open, and it may be that way in many other
> places.  I have been sending resumes out for several years, and no
> permanent position has gotten less than about 40 resumes.  Even
> temporary 1 or 2 month stints have about 5 or 10 resumes.  Many of the
> entry level jobs that would have once gone to persons with Bachelor's
> degrees are now being filled with PhD's with 10 or so years of
> experience in each field because they are being downsized into the entry
> level positions.  The reality is that the supply far outstrips the
> demand.  Maybe if you tried to enter the field 10 or so years ago, you
> might have been able to enter it, and work continuously and successfully
> at it.  Nowadays, you might want to consider working as an M.D.  It
> might be different in other areas of the country, but if not, it seems
> doubtful that you might find anything at all.
> 
> Sorry, -X
I don't believe that. I graduated from UM Rolla in May, and 6/8 people
in my department had jobs BEFORE graduation. My wife also had a job upon
graduation from Rolla.

Brian Sandle wrote:
> 
> Patricia Schwarz (violette@vasilisa.com) wrote:
> : The cannabinoid system also effects centers of the brain controlling
> : fear, panic, muscle spasms
> 
> And possibly reduce breathing response in muscles.
> 
>  and nausea, in addition to being
> : found in the hippocampus, where the infamous "short term memory
> : interference" effect of marijuana no doubt takes place.
> 
> The hippocampus is particularly susceptible to hypoxia since the blood
> vessels in it are blind alleys. I speculate that if it becomes broken
> then the personality can be divided into the smaller areas.
Then cannabinoids are undoubtedly good for the hippocampus,
check out the research on the syntehtic cannabinoid HU211
which as a brain anti-inflammatory reduces neural damage from
hypoxia by up to 50%
> : that is in fact what happens to people with PTSD, many also
> : have accompanying physics problems of that nature.
> 
> Not sure what you mean by physics problems. 
I meant physical problems but I was not trained as a typist.
>How do you know it is not
> working like electroshock treatment, reducing blood flow to the areas
> which have been overactive producing the depression. 
It is called "research", try checking Medline under "cannabinoid"
> 
-- 
Naked is a state of mind
		Luscious Jackson

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    FINALLY  NEW  SCIENTIFIC  EVIDENCE  BEHIND  DOWSING 
Divining rods and all common dowsing devices, are the simplest
 forms of electroscopes.  The bent rod for example is just a
 variation of Gilbert's straw needle electroscope.
The divining rods are charged with static electricity from the
 dowser's own body.  This static electricity can be measured quite
 adequately with a simple millivolt meter. This voltage is measured
 between the hands of the dowser, and the amount of voltage will
 vary depending on the person. A good dowser will have a high
 reading, "above 100 mv" while a poor dowser may read as low
 as,"0 mv.".  For males the right hand is usually a negative
 polarity, and the left hand is positive in polarity.  These
 polarities are usually reversed in females. 
The divining rod charged positively will rotate in the dowsers
 hand to line up parallel to a negatively charged object being
 dowsed. A divining rod charged negatively will remain perpendicular
 to a negatively charged object being dowsed. This is because like
 charges repel, while unlike charges attract.  Thus both bent
 devining rods are not required for dowsing. When two divining
 rods are used, and they are seen to cross, one of the rods is
 being moved to line up parallel with the charged object being
 dowsed.  The other rod is moving to line up parallel to the first
 rod.  A second reason for the two rods crossing is that of dowsing
 over an alternating current source, such as a pipeline or buried
 cable. these are usually buried shallow and are conducting ground
 currents as the path of least resistance.
The above statements can easily be proven by, dowsing over negatively
 and positively charged objects. The devices used in my experiments
 were, a rubber rod rubbed with cat fur to produce the positive charged
 object, while a glass rod rubbed with silk was used to produce the
 negatively charged object
The reason conventional devices cannot detect these positive and
 negative charges, is probably because of the array in which the
 charged object gives off it's lines of force in all directions.
 Most instruments being omnidirectional devices would not pick up
 the small incremental changes in voltage along the earth’s surface.
 But the bent devining rods being unidirectional devices,  can only
 turn to line up parallel to the charged object, when they are directly
 above the charged object.
The willow crotch is another type of dowsing device,  this divining rod
 begins to pick up an attraction to the charged object prior to reaching
 the object,  having it’s greatest amount of pull directly over the
 object.  After dowsing with the willow crotch , the crotch itself can
 laid down and dowsed with the bent rods, which will indicate a charge
 left on each arm of the crotch, one positive and one negative.
A metallic pendulum attached by a wire will take on the charge of the
 hand it is being held by.  A pendulum held by a nonconductive string
 will take on the charge of the last hand which held the pendulum.  The
 pendulum when rotating above an object of a similar charge will continue
 to rotate and eventually swing back and forth perpendicular to the
 object.  This pendulum when rotating above an object of the opposite
 charge will start to swing back and forth parallel to the object being
 dowsed.  Caution here when dowsing an object you have touched the object
 will usually take on the charge of the last hand that touched it. This
 can be demonstrated by dowsing over an object such as a table knife
 depending on which hand touched the knife last an opposite reaction of
 the dowsing device will be seen.
     Another interesting phenomenon.
To discover the depth of a water stream underground some dowsers use a
 long rod,  made of  either iron or a fresh cut poplar pole.  This pole
 is held by one end near the located underground stream, the other end
 of the rod is allowed to oscillate up and down directly over the stream.   
 The number of oscillations are counted and this is the approximate number
 of feet below the earth where the water will be found.
This action can also be demonstrated, by realizing that the rod is just
 a pendulum working  in a vertical plane rather than a horizontal one.  
 To duplicate this action a charged object can be placed on a table,  by
 having a pendulum swing back and forth,  a few feet away, and in the
 same  horizontal plane the number of oscillations can be counted. By
 moving the  pendulum closer or farther from the object the number of
 oscillations 
 will decrease or increase. When this is graphed, number of  oscillations
 vs. distance,  a straight line graph will be observed. By varying the
 length of the wire on the pendulum, the slope of the line will vary.  
 My theory here is that a static electric wave or pulse is being sent to
 the object being dowsed,  this charge is being reflected back from the 
 object being dowsed,  when it reaches the pendulum again as the same
 charge it stops the oscillations, since like charges repel.
The significance of these finding are overwhelming . The applications
 in which dowsing has been used is HUGE.  When all of these applications
 have been explored scientifically Mankind will take another leap forward.
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Folks, the constitutional questions are there yes but notice
I did not post to alt.politics.libertarian.
My hope was to get peoples dander up about specifically what
Clinton is doing to access to research.
The federal government's position is that marijuana is medically
useless. They are supporting that position by actively preventing
any research to be done that could contradict their assertion.
BUT hey I can understand if everyone's first priority is
to protect their grant money. Because if scientists started
speaking out in this case, the Clinton admin would probably
respond with very serious threats as they are doing with doctors.
If only there was a post-modernist journal involved then maybe some
great "champion" of science like Mr. Sokal would feel moved
to make some statement in defense of the science he supposedly
loves to defend.
But no, he's probably mooning around feeling victimized
by the entire field of philosophy since time began by now.
-patricia
-- 
Naked is a state of mind
		Luscious Jackson