Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop......Threaded Connections? ?
From: mjmackin@handling.com (Matt.)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:42:10 GMT
wpilgri@oanet.com (Wayne Pilgrim) wrote:
>I recently started using Mechanical Desktop 1.1 at work. It works good but
>I haven't been able to figure out the best way to draw threaded components.
>For internal threads you can specify threading options when using the hole
>feature. I really don't know what to do for external threads. Since this
>is very common in our business, I'm in trouble.
>I would like to here how others are doing this before I develop bad habits
>! !
>Greatly Appreciated.
We sit and wait for it to be added to the package.
We are in a simular boat as you are. Right now MCAD1.1 doesn't
support defining external threads. What we do is draw the part, then
manually add in the hidden lines and the thread notes onto the
drawing, then put a note outside the title block that the threads are
not parrametric.
Speak with your dealer, and tell them what you would like to see
inside of the next release of Mechanical Desktop. The desktop team do
listen to the customer requests, and if there is a demand for a
change, they will consider changing it.
I will say that I have nothing but good experiances dealing with this
group. The 1.1 upgrade solved most of my problems, with the remaining
ones being tied into Autocad 13 limitations. Stick with it. This
package will pay for it self many times over in a short while.
mjm
Subject: US-NC-Architectural AutoCad Drafter
From: char@systemone.com (System One Technical, Charlotte)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:44:46 GMT
SUBJECT: US-NC-Architectural AutoCad Drafter-System One Technical
ORGANIZATION: System One Technical
LOCATION: Charlotte, NC
EMPLOYMENT DESCRIPTION:
Charlotte based company seeking Architectural AutoCad Drafters. The
ideal candidate should have experience with site, civil, and lanscape
drafting. AutoCad 12 and 13 skills are required.
COMPENSATION: Commensurate on experience.
Email: char@systemone.com - 'attn Heather Cropp' in the subject line
System One Technical Phone: (704)525-1234
9 Woodlawn Green Fax: (704) 525-2132
5000 Nations Crossing, Suite 227 Web: http://www.systemone.com
Charlotte, North Carolina 28217
Subject: Re: Data Management
From: RoGo
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:39:56 -0800
Desi Moreno wrote:
>
> WE use Cyco's Workflow, it's great. We don't use any of the Briefcase
> features as well, but it manages our 1000 + drawings pretty good
>
> E-Mail me at desim@mid.org if you want any more info.
>
> thanks, desi
We've been Cyco's Workflow version 4.07 for almost a year now. We're
managing about 6000 drawing files, with carefully chosen index files
speed and managability should be good.
We don't use any briefcase stuff (yet). Don't count on the ability to
plot drawings from AMW; it outputs the viewer (which is good btw) to the
Windows system printer. (Oh yea, we're using Windows 3.11) This relies
heavily on the quality of that driver (pen widths!) and more importantly,
is mindnumbingly slow. Just don't.
Apart from that; works fine for us (engineering group, 17 CAD stations)
About Workcenter; last year it wasn't really a ready product; it then
used the sybase engine, but they've replaced that. Perhaps if they use an
ODBC driver...
Writing your own with acces (or similar) is certainly possible; but
really do know how you work with drawings, VBA and DB's!!
If you'd like more info; mail me...
Good luck
RoGo
r_godlieb@pi.net
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: Andrew Kidd
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:54:48 -0600
Jane, Watson wrote:
>
> >Gary Lynn Kerr said...To whom ever wrote that the term
> draftsMEN was not correct. GET A LIFE!
> >And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time
> on her hands....GET A LIFE! ....snip, snip, snip!
>
> Here, here Katarina!
>
> Gary, it's rather sad you feel the way you do, maybe you'll get
> a life yourself one day. In the meantime, will you take that
> attitude with your female boss when she has to reprimand you?
> (If you don't have a female boss yet, chances are you'll
> probably have one in the future). Get rid of your appalling
> attitude before she gets rid of you!
I have a female boss already, and she is open enough to realize that when I say
draftsman or designer, I mean the same thing. She calls them the same... Why
does everything have to be so "politically correct". Why would you be offended
to be called a draftsman if that is what you have studied to be? What would you
rather be called? A draftswoman? Geeez.... I agree with Gary, get a life!
IM(not so)HO!!!
--
Andy Kidd kidd@inetdirect.net http://netdirect.net/~kidd
"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a child. Teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise. Follow him."---Author unkown
Subject: Re: Ethical problem
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:32:13 GMT
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:36:05 GMT, jimf@protosys.com (Jim Fitzgerald)
wrote:
>
>IMHO, I'd call the head of his dept at the school and turn him in.
>
Unfortunately, I don't know the college, otherwise the call would
already have been made.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
Subject: Re: Help with .EXP file
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:32:13 GMT
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:46:38 -0500, "Samuel J Neptune (ME)"
wrote:
>
>
> I know .Exp's fils are c compile program, does anyone know If it
>is possible Once the .C is compile to .exp to Find out or to read from
>the .EXP File the C source Code..............
>
> I just have an ACAD R12 .EXP file, I wnated to read it's structure
>
Yes it is a compiled program. Even if you did get a de-compiler,
fortunately it is not like unprotecting AutoLISP. What you will get
is machine language. Well, if you want to learn that, good luck.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
Subject: Re: ARX -- deriving from which class?
From: Jim Quanci
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:04:21 -0800
Ralf-
Have you checked out the sample code provided in the latest ARX SDK 1.1
(downloadable from the Autodesk web site as part of the ARX SDK -
www.autodesk.com).
You should consider coming out to California for one of our 3 days
hands-on ARX training classes. The class takes you through creating
your own custom objects, using reactors, MFC with ARX and much much
more. The teachers are experienced C++ programmers.
We may be holding an ARX class in the Detroit area in january which
might be easier for you to attend. Drop me a line.
Cheers,
Jim Q
==============================================
Ralf Allar wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm starting to develop with the ARX-API and I'd like to know, how to
> derive from an Entity.
>
> I want to build a new entity (in this case a wall). Now, should I derive
> from AcDbEntity or from AcDbCurve?
>
> What are the dis/advantages to derive from either one?
>
> And... does someone knows where to find some good reading or tutorial stuff about
> ARX. The manual, ACAD delivered is quite unsatiesfying.
>
> O.K. many thanks for any hints...
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dipl. Inform. Ralf Allar Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH
> Phone: 02173/3964-223 Abt. Forschung & Entwicklung
> Fax: 02173/3964-25 An der alten Ziegelei 2
> 40771 Monheim
>
Subject: Re: AutoCAD can do anything (well almost)
From: g.cerven@ix.netcom.com(Gregory P. Cerven )
Date: 12 Nov 1996 22:13:19 GMT
Yeah, as long as you're a Registered Developer and have access to the
API. It's nice how AutoLISP doesn't support some of the new objects in
R13. Guess you guys are going down the path that the Bentley brothers
left, and making you're system more proprietary. It won't be long
before AutoCAD has objects that are 3rd party developer specific, and
can only be modified by a Strategic Developer's application. Yeah,
AutoCAD will be able to view and plot that door, but it won't be able
to make it bigger or smaller 'cause it doesn't know what a door is.
But if you buy this other application for only ...
Been there, done that. Welcome to CAD by ILM - smoke and mirrors.
In <328104A6.90D@autodesk.com> Jerry Coley
writes:
>
>The nice thing about AutoCAD is that just about *anything* can be
done.
>With the addition of ARX, those that wish to can do just about
anything
>with its power.
>
>JerryC
Subject: Re: ACAD 13 files in ACAD 12 ?
From: Sherlog@t-online.de (Stefan Otto)
Date: 11 Nov 1996 18:27:06 GMT
Rod Young wrote in article <32873992.5742@ix.netcom.com>...
> Mike Fancy wrote:
..snip..
> > Of course, ACAD12 won't load them. My client says that his CAD person
> > doesn't know how to save the files in a format (in their ACAD13) so that I
> > can read them in ACAD12.
..snip..
> Our program RUN LISP includes (among many others) a program to batch
> convert R13 to R12 so your client wouldn't need to do all those
> conversion manually.
..snip..
Rod,
the guy didn't ask how to *automate* the conversion. I think your
plug would have looked less shameless if you had at least told him
that the solution is simply to use the command "SAVEASR12".
At least that's what the book (Inside AutoCAD R13) says - we don't
have R13.
IMHO your plug was completely uncalled for. How would Mike look
in the eyes of a client who can't even RTFM, if he went there
and said
"Ah, look, you gotta buy this program and sorta set it up
on your system, and then you only have to learn how to run
it and when and thats it."
instead of just telling them the name of the built-in command!
Subject: Re: Acad colortable
From: Sherlog@t-online.de (Stefan Otto)
Date: 11 Nov 1996 19:37:29 GMT
The surfer wrote in article <3282739D.6267@automation.alfalaval.se>...
> Hello !
>
> Does anyone know where I can find the AutoCad colortable. I need to get
> the 256 AutoCadcolors in RGB-code.
>
> Anders Karlsson
> anders.p.karlsson@automation.alfalaval.se
>
Hi, surfer!
The appended excerpt from an R12 ADS sample contains the info you need,
although in a somewhat diluted form. It should at least get you started
(and not down, I hope..)
"Share and Enjoy!"
(quote: automatic door manufactured by Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
'The next against the wall when the Revolution comes' - Encyclopedia Galactica)
/* COLEXT.C
Copyright (C) 1990-1993 by Autodesk, Inc.
Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software
for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided
that the above copyright notice appears in all copies and that
both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in
all supporting documentation.
THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT EXPRESS OR IMPLIED
WARRANTY. ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR
PURPOSE AND OF MERCHANTABILITY ARE HEREBY DISCLAIMED.
*/
..snip..
#define BLACK 0
#define RED 1
#define YELLOW 2
#define GREEN 3
#define CYAN 4
#define BLUE 5
#define MAGENTA 6
#define WHITE 7
#define SAT 1.0
struct r_g_b { /* RGB colour description */
ads_real red, green, blue;
};
..snip..
/* ACADRGB -- Takes an AutoCAD colour number in hsv and returns
red, green, and blue intensities in rgp in the range
0.0 to 1.0 */
static void acadrgb(hsv, rgp)
int hsv;
struct r_g_b *rgp;
{
static ads_real brightfac[5] = { /* Brightness levels */
1.0, 0.65, 0.5, 0.3, 0.15
}, halfsat = .5; /* Halfway saturation */
int ih, vs;
ads_real h, s, f, value;
assert(hsv > 0 || hsv < 256);
switch (hsv) {
case BLACK:
rgp->red = 0.0;
rgp->blue = 0.0;
rgp->green = 0.0;
value = 0.0;
break;
case RED:
rgp->red = SAT;
rgp->green = 0.0;
rgp->blue = 0.0;
value = 1.0;
break;
case YELLOW:
rgp->red = SAT;
rgp->green = SAT;
rgp->blue = 0.0;
value = 1.0;
break;
case GREEN:
rgp->red = 0.0;
rgp->green = SAT;
rgp->blue = 0.0;
value = 1.0;
break;
case CYAN:
rgp->red = 0.0;
rgp->green = SAT;
rgp->blue = SAT;
value = 1.0;
break;
case BLUE:
rgp->red = 0.0;
rgp->green = 0.0;
rgp->blue = SAT;
value = 1.0;
break;
case MAGENTA:
rgp->red = SAT;
rgp->green = 0.0;
rgp->blue = SAT;
value = 1.0;
break;
case WHITE:
case 8:
case 9:
rgp->red = SAT;
rgp->green = SAT;
rgp->blue = SAT;
value = 1.0;
break;
default:
/* The chromatic colors. The hue resulting from an
AutoCAD color 10-249 will be determined by its first
two digits, and the saturation and value from the
last digit, as follows:
Hues:
10 -- Red
50 -- Yellow
90 -- Green
130 -- Cyan
170 -- Blue
210 -- Magenta
Between each of these are three intermediate hues,
e.g., between red and yellow, we have:
20 -- reddish orange
30 -- orange
40 -- yellowish orange
To each hue number, 0, 2, 4, 6, or 8 can be added to
give a different "value", or brightness, with 0 the
brightest and 8 the weakest. Finally, 1 can be
added to produce a "half-saturated", or pastel,
color. For example, color 18 is the dimmest red and
10 the brightest red. 19 is the dimmest pink and 11
the brightest pink.
*/
if (hsv > 9 && hsv < 250) {
/* Apply the algorithm from Foley & van Dam to turn
HSV into RGB values */
ih = (hsv - 10) / 10; /* Integer hue value. */
if (ih >= 24) /* Range is 0-23. */
ih -= 24;
vs = hsv % 10; /* Encoded value and saturation */
h = ih / 4.; /* Map into range [0.0,6.0) */
ih = h; /* The integer part. */
f = h - ih; /* Fractional part. */
value = brightfac[vs >> 1]; /* Value in [0,1] */
s = vs & 1 ? halfsat : 1.0; /* Saturation */
switch (ih) {
case 0:
rgp->red = 1.0;
rgp->green = (ads_real) (1.0 - s * (1.0 - f));
rgp->blue = (ads_real) (1.0 - s);
break;
case 1:
rgp->red = (ads_real) (1.0 - s * f);
rgp->green = 1.0;
rgp->blue = (ads_real) (1 - s);
break;
case 2:
rgp->red = (ads_real) (1.0 - s);
rgp->green = 1.0;
rgp->blue = (ads_real) (1.0 - s *(1.0 - f));
break;
case 3:
rgp->red = (ads_real) (1.0 - s);
rgp->green = (ads_real) (1.0 - s * f);
rgp->blue = 1.0;
break;
case 4:
rgp->red = (ads_real) (1.0 - s * (1.0 - f));
rgp->green = (ads_real) (1.0 - s);
rgp->blue = 1.0;
break;
case 5:
rgp->red = 1.0;
rgp->green = (ads_real) (1.0 - s);
rgp->blue = (ads_real) (1.0 - s * f);
break;
}
} else {
/* Define some extra colours from dark grey to white
in the 250 to 255 slots */
value = 0.33 + (hsv - 250) * 0.134;
rgp->red = 1.0;
rgp->green = 1.0;
rgp->blue = 1.0;
}
break; /* Default */
}
rgp->red *= value; /* Apply lightness scale factor */
rgp->green *= value; /* to components resulting from */
rgp->blue *= value; /* hue and saturation. */
}
..snip..
Subject: Integrating AutoLISP and VB with DDE
From: polanskt@chesapeake.net (Thomas N. Polanski)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 02:39:38 GMT
Hi all:
Just thought I would give a heads up to any who may be interested. An article entitled
"Integrating Visual Basic and AutoCAD Release 13 Applications Using DDE" has been placed
on the NAAUG Programming SIG web page. It covers aspects of sending data between VB and
AutoCAD (both ways), driving AutoLISP from VB (and vice-versa), etc. Source code for the
example application, as well as the lisp routines, VB application set-up files, etc. are
available for download from the article. I would certainly welcome any feedback or
questions. The page is at:
http://www.woolpert.com/AppProgSig/Dde.htm
Sincerely,
Tom
*********************************************************
* Thomas N. Polanski
* Associate Engineer - AM/FM System
* Southern Maryland Electric Co-op, Inc.
*
* e-mail: polanskt@smeco.com
*********************************************************
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: Gary Lynn Kerr
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:52:12 -0600
On 12 Nov 1996, it was written:
>
> >Gary Lynn Kerr said...To whom ever wrote that the term
> draftsMEN was not correct. GET A LIFE!
> >And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time
> on her hands....GET A LIFE! ....snip, snip, snip!
>
> Here, here Katarina!
>
> Gary, it's rather sad you feel the way you do, maybe you'll get
> a life yourself one day. In the meantime, will you take that
> attitude with your female boss when she has to reprimand you?
> (If you don't have a female boss yet, chances are you'll
> probably have one in the future). Get rid of your appalling
> attitude before she gets rid of you!
>
> Jane Watson
> Mechanical Engineer
>
Jane,
I have worked for several women and I'm sure that I will work for
and with many more. The terms salesman, draftsman, mailman, ... have
been in use for more years than we have been around. Everyone was OK with
these terms until a feminist decided that they were degrading to women.
Since the terms are GENERIC I do not see how this can be the case. Where
do we stop??? Do we change mankind to humankind? That doesn't work
either because human contains "man" also. How about personkind? Do we
also change woman to womyn?? People should be able to use the term of
their choice without the fear of retribution form the oppossing camp. I
feel that Katrina was out-of-line when she wrote her comment about the
survey. I also feel that any boss that that takes offense to the original
terms has too much time on their hands. I have asked several female
friends and co-workers about this topic and they all agree with my point
of view. On a related topic, using the term he/she is even worse. Choose
one or the other or use a generic term. Enough for today.
Gary
Subject: Re: Remap keyboard to simplify typing
From: Thomson Adsett Architects: Sydney
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:07:44 +1100
MaxCAD wrote:
> =
> We have recently written a keyboard redefinition programme for Win 95 a=
nd
> NT 3.51 and NT 4.0. Currently we are still testing and developing the u=
ser
> interface, but should be finished in a couple of weeks. We are aiming t=
o
> post it as shareware with a registration of about A$30.
> =
> The program will allow redefinition of any non-reserved key on the keyb=
oard
> to any text string - including alt and control shifted keys, and tab an=
d
> F10 in AutoCAD Release 13. Will hook into any windows programe (up to 1=
6
> windows at once).
> =
> If any one is interested, please email me at ajdunn@maxcad.com.au for m=
ore
> detail.
> =
> Andrew Dunn
> MaxCAD Drafting Services Pty. Ltd.
> =
> Johan v Matern wrote in article
> <32820A06.59CF@mail.pi.se>...
> > Entering relative coordinates is not very convenient on swedish
> > keyboards. Two hands or very long fingers are needed to type
> > the necessary Alt Gr + 2. Is it possible remap the keyboard, so I can=
> > use the "=A7" key or something else instead? The matter was quite eas=
ily
> > handled in DOS, but how do I do it on NT4.0?
> > (I work with AUTOCad LT'95)
> >
> > Please help!
> >
Here is a tricky one:
I need to redefine single keyboard keys to paste strings into autocad.
Now because of this, the redefinition can only be active when in an
AutoCAD command.
So I am currently attempting to write a windows keyboard hook program
with an interface =
to AutoLisp. Futher more my program shall only be active if the active
window is AutoCAD =
or AutoCAD text screen. Although I have the code ready for Sending the
keys, =
I need to be able to create the interface to AutoLisp. =
I am using Visual C++ 4.0, and am trying to create =
an ADS (Still keeping away from ARX) program from what I already have.
The problem is that I cannot even get the AutoDESK ADS templates to
compile.
I believe I have followed all the instructions from the AutoDesk
Technical document entitled
"Compiling ADS with Visual C++ 4.0"
I am currently not at the computer with the compiler, so I cannot give
you the exact error messages
that I get.
Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated.
regards,
Hendrik Ebber.
=
-------------------------
Thomson Adsett Architects
SYDNEY
Level 5, 302 Pitt Street
Sydney South, NSW 2000
Ph: (02) 283 4099
Fx: (02) 261 2481
-------------------------
Subject: Re: Text question - What is the var to make hollow text solid?
From: desim@mid.org
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:01:06 -0600
X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Nov 13 00:56:08 1996 GMT
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In article <5692gd$c71q@news.goodnet.com>,
gargoyle@netzone.com (Gargoyle) wrote:
>
> I have not use this command that often, therefor, I am coming up short on what
> the var is. I know it can be done. So if you would be so kind as to post or
> e-mail me the proper var to make hollow text have a solid fill it would be
> greatly appreciated.
> Brad
>
Brad if you're using a ttf you can use the variable textfill
otherwise there is no other variable to use. there are a number of font
files out there that is pre-filled. as soon as I can find ours I will send it
to you.
Maybe someone reading this has one that they can give you also.
--
Mr. Desi Moreno desim@mid.org
Modesto Irrigation District
Electrical Engineering Technician
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