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Subject: Re: Simple DWG's wanted -- From: Heather Krause
Subject: Re: How do I explode an attributed block without losing text information ??? -- From: ktate@aoc.nrao.edu (ktate)
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: Bruce Tracy
Subject: Copy drawing too word 7.0 -- From: "E.A.W. Bus"
Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop Question -- From: "Lee Harding"
Subject: Filling Fonts -- From: janell@povn.com (Janet Elliott)
Subject: Re: Selecting Font for custom DLG boxes -- From: Lu
Subject: Re: Dual Screen Work -- From: Peter Mooney
Subject: Re: Which (Mfg) CAM Integrates Best? -- From: Lu
Subject: Re: "Save Changes to UNNAMED?" -- From: Lu
Subject: ARXload failed -- From: ygingras@vir.com (Yves Gingras)
Subject: Re: Tablet -- From: Lu
Subject: Re: Drawings in a delete inhibited directory? -- From: Miles Constable
Subject: Re: AutoCAD not fully closing -- From: CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM (Chris Christenson)
Subject: ACadR13 running on Win3.11 -- From: remus@ylcbmal.po.my (Remus Shai)
Subject: Re: ARXload failed -- From: Yvan Le Comte
Subject: Re: ARXload failed -- From: Yvan Le Comte
Subject: Re: Linewidth display "wish" for R14 -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: Re: year 2000 and lisp -- From: "Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"
Subject: Re: "Save Changes to UNNAMED?" -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: Re: Designjet 250C - Can't turn off dithered black & white plotting -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: cursor ucs -- From: bschwa3742@aol.com
Subject: Re: How do I explode an attributed block without losing text information ??? -- From: culprb@aol.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- From: erg@panix.com (Edward Green)
Subject: Excel 5 to R13 -- From: mwhittin@freenet.npiec.on.ca (Michael Whittington)
Subject: Re: Importing raster files into r13c4 -- From: Glen Brent
Subject: FS: Upgradeable AutoCad Rel 11 w/AME -- From: Charity Slepcevic
Subject: Re: Filling Fonts -- From: "Robert Albert"
Subject: Re: Help me choosing a tablet... -- From: "David McNicol"
Subject: Req. Kurta wintab driver -- From: Sarah Woodman
Subject: dxfout problem (R13) -- From: "L.O.G."
Subject: Re: Designjet 250C - Can't turn off dithered black & white plotting -- From: Stewart Thompson
Subject: Re: Linetypes in ACAD12 -- From: Sudheer O
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: Marc Lopez
Subject: Need help importing drawings in Word -- From: Delfoe Trammell
Subject: Re: Re. AutoCAD LT ver 1. -- From: ci578@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Peter James)
Subject: Help about make demo -- From: wjwjwj@public.bta.net.cn
Subject: Re: Microstation Vs. Autocad -- From: kg@orion.ddorf.rhein-ruhr.de (Karlo Gross)
Subject: Re: DOS-13c4 in win95 -- From: Juha Sallinen
Subject: Re: Tablet -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)

Articles

Subject: Re: Simple DWG's wanted
From: Heather Krause
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:29:43 -0600
www@ejriley.com wrote:
> I'm after some *very basic* DWG (or GCD) files of things
> such as ships, boats, trains, flowers and animals. They
> are only going to be displayed on paper at a size of about
> 1 or 2 inches across, so I don't need anything too complicated;
> in fact the simpler the better.
> 
> The trouble is I can't find a web site with freeware images
> that are very basic. Ideally I need about 500, but can accept
> any amount in either format in any quantity!
> 
> This problem seems to have arisen as I can't seem to convert
> files from any "normal" graphics format (BMP,GIF etc) to DWG
> format. Any help with this would too be appreciated.
AutoCAD R13 for Windows can import the following formats, which
might be useful: WMF (Windows Metafile), PCX, TIF, and GIF. I've
had success using one of the clip-art programs like Corel Gallery,
exporting a WMF format file, then importing it to AutoCAD. It's
not real clean, but it would give you some simple images on a wide
variety of subjects.
You might also look for collections of AutoCAD symbol libraries,
which are usually shape files or simple drawings of various types
of symbols or simple drawings to insert into other drawings.
Good luck!
--
Heather Krause
hkrause@iname.com
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Subject: Re: How do I explode an attributed block without losing text information ???
From: ktate@aoc.nrao.edu (ktate)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 21:45:36 GMT
>Basically I need to know how to explode an attributed block without losing 
text information ???  I have 20 P&ID;'s with lots of attributed blocks..
>
Nathan:
Here's a lisp file I picked up somewhere that should do the trick for you.  
It's called ATT2TXT.LSP
Hope it helps.  Kathy
; (vmon)
(defun fld (elst num)(cdr (assoc num elst)))
(defun c:ClnDEF()
 (setq ssdef (ssget "x" (list (cons 0 "ATTDEF"))))
 (command "erase" ssdef ""))
(defun c:ATT2Txt()
 (prompt "Pick items: ")
 (setq sslst (ssget) sslng (sslength sslst))
 (setq oldstyle (getvar "textstyle") oldlayer (getvar "clayer"))
 (command "style" "attrib" "romans" 0 1 0 "n" "n" "n")
 (command "layer" "m" "attrib" "")
 (cond
  ( (> sslng 0)
   (setq ssptr 0)
   (while (< ssptr sslng)
    (setq ename (ssname sslst ssptr) entlst (entget ename))
    (cond
     ((eq (fld entlst 0) "INSERT")
      (setq ename (entnext ename))
      (while (not (eq (fld (setq entlst (entget ename)) 0) "SEQEND"))
       (cond
        ((eq (fld entlst 0) "ATTRIB")
         (setq txt10 (fld entlst 10) txt11 (fld entlst 11) tlayer (fld entlst 
8) theight (fld entlst 40) trotate (fld entlst 50) tjust (fld entlst 72) 
ttext (fld entlst 1))
         (command "layer" "s" tlayer "")
         (command "text" "s" "attrib")
         (cond
          ((= tjust 0) (command txt10 theight trotate ttext))
          ((= tjust 1) (command "C" txt11 theight trotate ttext))
          ((= tjust 2) (command "R" txt11 theight trotate ttext))
          ((= tjust 3) (command "A" txt10 txt11 theight trotate ttext))
          ((= tjust 4) (command "M" txt11 theight trotate ttext))
          ((= tjust 5) (command "F" txt10 txt11 theight trotate ttext)))
         (command "layer" "s" oldlayer "" "text" "s" oldstyle)
         (command)))
      (setq ename (entnext ename))
      )
     )
    )
    (setq ssptr (1+ ssptr))
   )
  )
 )
)
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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: Bruce Tracy
Date: 13 Nov 1996 22:55:08 GMT
Here's my two cents on tools for engineers and drafters (notice generic
term ;-)
I-DEAS
Structural Dynamics Research Corp (SDRC) have a product known as
I-DEAS.  It's a high-end CAD/CAM/CAE tool with excellent drafting,
designing and analysis capability all 100% integrated into one package. 
You should check it out.
www.sdrc.com
Peter wrote:
> 
> ATTENTION ALL ENGINEERS AND DRAFTSMEN:
> 
> I am a student at the Texas Tech University Engineering Department and I
> am currently
>......
> 
> 1.  Which drafting software does your company currently use?
I-DEAS
> 
> 2.  Does this software meet your needs?
yes
> 
> 3.  Do you anticipate any changes in your needs which would warrant
> implementation of a new
>         software package within the next five years?
> 
> 4.  If there was one software package that a new student out of college
> should know, what would
>         you suggest?
>
I_DEAS
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Subject: Copy drawing too word 7.0
From: "E.A.W. Bus"
Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:06:21 GMT
I have a problem with copying drawings too word.
When I copy I get a copy off the current screen, but my the measurment in
the horzintal direction is good but in the vertical direction is it too
big. In autocad r12 you had " copy vectors" with this copy command I get
only the drawing with the right measurments. With autocad r13 not yet.
Can sombody help.
E-mail: eawbus@pi.net
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Subject: Re: Mechanical Desktop Question
From: "Lee Harding"
Date: 13 Nov 1996 22:58:49 GMT
If you are experiencing that many failures in AMSURFCUT, I have to ask: are
you following the rules?
1. The surface must extend past the part boundaries
2. The intersections of the surface and the part must be closed loops.
Other things to consider:
Where possible, consider using AMJOINSF where possible. It is generally
more reliable to perform a smaller number of more complicated cuts.
Make sure that the surface tolerance that you are using is reasonable
considering the extents of the model.
Avoid using offset surfaces if you can. Offseting a surface is like
duplicating a VCR tape -- there's a loss of resolution.
Good luck,
Lee Harding
Autodesk, Inc.
Student  wrote in article <32892A3C.1FE@uvic.ca>...
: I have another rather hard question (or we think so) about
: M. Desktop:
: How do you make a surface into a part?
: Wait, don't say it can't be done!  
: We're trying to model some components in Desktop and then
: translating them to Ansis for FEA. But it is quite less time
: consuming (IE 2 days vs 3 or 4 hours, no exageration) when
: we make the object (a flange in this case) out of a surface
: instead of a part.
: I tried making just a block then cutting away using surfaces but
: over 60% of the time it would't work, Desktop said the surfaces
: wouldn't AMSURFCUT.
: Any suggestions, comments?
: Thanks,...CC and email if you could.
: Peter Cowan
: pcowan@engr.uvic.ca
: pcowan@sirius.uvic.ca
: 
: Mechanical Engineering Student - University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C.
: 
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Subject: Filling Fonts
From: janell@povn.com (Janet Elliott)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:38:02 GMT
I am using ACAD R 12 for Windows.  How do I fill in the fonts that
come with the program e.g. the cibt postscript font?  If it is not
possible, then how do I import text from Word--I tried copying to the
clipboard and pasting into the drawing without success.
Thanks in advance.
Janet Elliott
Jasper Graphics
janell@povn.com
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Subject: Re: Selecting Font for custom DLG boxes
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:17:24 -0800
John M wrote:
> 
> Is there a system variable that sets the type of font that is used in
> doalog boxes created with DCL? I've called AutoDesk for help on this and
> was told that there aren't. I'm using a dialog box to show the contents
> of an ASCII file and need to use a monotype font so that the letters
> will line up correctly in columns. If there really isn't one, maybe
> there should be in the next version. I am currently using R13c4a.
> Thanks.
Hi John,
Just a note to say you are not alone with this problem.  I have had a 
similar problem getting complex dialog box controls to "line up" on the 
windows platform.  We have all been forced into a Word Processing 
environment.
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: Re: Dual Screen Work
From: Peter Mooney
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:59:11 -0800
Cristina Méndez wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody.
> The matter of this posting is to ask if anyone knows if I can work with
> Autoicad r13_c4 and Windows NT in the same way I use it in an Ms-DOS
> environment, using one Screen for text and the other for Draw.
> I don't know if this can be made, using windows NT or using the DOS version
> of Autocad.
> 
> Thanks for any help
     I have seen dual and even triple monitor setups in Windows NT. 
They use multiple          Matrox Millenium cards but there are several
cards that will do this.  It does                not work the same way
it used to in the old days where you had two monitors -               
one monochrome which displayed only text and one VGA which displayed
only                graphics.  You setup two VGA monitors and your
Windows desktop spanns the two 
     monitors - so you can move the mouse pointer from the left monitor
to the right                     monitor.  You can launch AutoCAD and
move the text screen window to the left                     monitor and
the drawing editor window to the right monitor.  This achieves
the                     old style setup that many drafters prefer.  It
works pretty well.
Regards,
Peter Mooney
Autodesk Product Support
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Subject: Re: Which (Mfg) CAM Integrates Best?
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:37:02 -0800
norriseal@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I'm currently evaluating CAM packages for milling and turning operations
> that will integrate with AutoCAD 13.  Obviously, I'm looking for a package
> that will integrate as seamlessly as possibly between our design engineers
> and our manufacturing engineers.
> 
> We currently use PathTrace (with plans to upgrade to EdgeCam) but we find
> that the mfg engineer must undo work (layers) on the AutoCAD drawings
> created by the design engineers in order to get the drawings in a usable
> form for mfg work. Is this typical of all CAM packages? What a waste of
> time.
> 
> Any comments, success or war stories would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> _______________
> Ron Whatley
> Norriseal@aol.com
Hi Ron,
Just some thoughts.
A typical method for creating a NC program is to;
1. Create a CAD drawing.
2. Create a DXF file from the CAD drawing file.
3. Read the DXF file into the Post Processor.
4. Modify/create/verify geometry for the specific machine type.
5. Create the NC program.
I recently revamped my Laser Post Processor so it would run totally in the AutoCAD 
environment.  This makes it much more efficient since there is only one geometry file to 
maintain.  I would hope that one of the companies that writes posts would realize this also.  
Maybe something to look for is a company that developed post processors as a function of 
manufacturing as opposed to one that writes software.   
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: Re: "Save Changes to UNNAMED?"
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:08:13 -0800
sk@dolby.com wrote:
> 
> I launch R13 and then open a drawing either with OPEN or by selecting
> it from the list of four files near the bottom of the FILE pulldown.
> 
> Is there any way to make R13 stop displaying the "Save Changes to
> UNNAMED?" window from appearing when I do this?     Since I haven't
> done anything between launching R13 and the command to open a file it
> seems unnecessary for ACAD to be asking that question.  What
> "Changes"?
> 
> Steve K
Hi Steve,
This is a good one.  The following is an extract from a program that is 
loaded each drawing session.  It could cause a user to loose work if they 
were not paying attention or don't understand how to save, open, etc. but 
at least there is less chance they will destroy someone elses drawing.   
(IF (= (GETVAR "dwgname") "UNNAMED")
    (PROGN
        (SETQ fileSpec "C:\\APPL\\ACAD12\\UNNAMED")
        (SETVAR "expert" 32767)    ; release 12  
	(SETVAR "expert" 5)	   ; release 13
        (COMMAND ".saveas" fileSpec)
        (SETVAR "expert" 0)
    )
)
Cheers, 
Lu
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Subject: ARXload failed
From: ygingras@vir.com (Yves Gingras)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 06:16:06 GMT
I have a friend who has had a surprise when trying to work whit the
render of the V13. He has received the message "ARXload failed" which
is surprising considering the fact that he has used it before and that
the files (render.arx) are present in the "support" subdirectori.
Could anyone give me a suggestion of what to do to go around this
little problem. Oh yes! Also, it is impossible to reach the
"preference" dialog box, and it his a Windows version.
	Thanks in advance
-----------------------------------------------------
	Yves Gingras
	Montreal, Québec.
	e-mail: ygingras@vir.com
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Subject: Re: Tablet
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:44:21 -0800
meyer-peter & co wrote:
> 
> check to see if moving the tablet away from the monitor helps.
> 
> It may be magnetic interference from the sweep coils.
> 
> henk.uiterwijk@pi.net wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:37:59 GMT, Jake@iaehv.nl (Jake) wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I got digitizer a acacad d-9000 with a wintab driver for win95 for use
> > >with acadr13  win95 version.
> > >My problem is  my drawning cross is shaking like hell.
> > >I tried almost everything but with no success.
> > >
> > >What's the matter did i forget something?
> > >
> > >
> > >Greetings,
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think you have the best tablet. Yes, I also have a ACECAD D9000. Do
> > you really have the latest driver.Look at the ACECAD-site
> > (www.acecad.com). You have to have the serialnumber of the tablet  at
> > hand. My driver is from october '96. Quiet new I guess.
> > Please E-mail me when you have further questions.
> > Are you Dutch? Ik wel.
I have a similar problem with my Hitachi 1212e on occasion.  If I move the tablet 
slightly, the problem goes away.  
Just a thought,
Lu
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Subject: Re: Drawings in a delete inhibited directory?
From: Miles Constable
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:16:07 -0800
Bill Sherman wrote:
> 
> My problem is not manually removing the files it is getting autocad to
> place all temp files in another location (locally) so that my drawing
> directory can have the delete rights disabled. If I disable the delete
> rights I cannot save or exit. I have the placement of temperary file in
> the config changed to a local drive but there are still some files being
> put in the drawing directory.
[rest of post deleted for the sake of brevity]
My assumption: you are running AutoCad for Windows r13 cx
Placement of temporary files is controlled by the following paramters:
1) Sub-option 5 of option 7 of the CONFIG command allows you to select
your desired location for Placement of temporary files.  This value is
also stored in the ACADNT.CFG file in the section [AutoCAD], beside the
variable name "TempDirectory=".
2) Sub-option 7 of option 7 of the CONFIG command allows you to select
the desired settings for the autosave feature.  When you enter the
filename for automatic saves you should also explicitly indicate the
path as well as the filename (such as e:\temp\auto.sv$). If you do not
have the full path indicated you will get an error message during
automatic saves indicating the directory is invalid (or something like
that - I can't remember exactly what it said).  In this case I am not
sure where the file(s) are written -- it may be the current (drawing)
directory. This value is also stored in the ACADNT.CFG file in the
section [AutoCAD], beside the variable name "AutoSaveFile=".
3) Under the ENVIROMENT tab of the PREFERENCES command you can indicate
your desired location for the Acad Page file.  This value is also stored
in the ACAD.INI file in the section [General], beside the variable name
"ACADPAGEDIR=".  If this value is not explicitly defined, page files are
placed in the current directory by default.
And likewise the placement of the various rendering files are located
under the RENDER tab of the PREFERENCES command.  These values are also
stored in the ACAD.INI file, beside the variable names
"AVEPAGEDIR=", "AVECFG=", and "AVEFACEDIR=".
It is also possible that you have some of these values defined as System
Enviroment Variables in the System dialog of the NT Workstation Control
Panel.  Additionally, it is also possible to define these values in the
command line description of the icon with which you launch AutoCad.  In
either case, I do not know which takes precendence - the values in the
.CFG and .INI files, or those defined elsewhere ...
These are the only controls I know of for the placement of temporary
files.  Of course it would have helped if you had mentioned the version
of AutoCad (it is possible you are running a DOS version) and also the
extension letters of the file(s) that are being left in your drawing
directory.
smilin' Miles Constable  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  miles@triumf.ca
"... destroy the face of stupidity and corruption and
  put up in its place an edifice of truth ..."
             ~~ anyone know the source of this quote?
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD not fully closing
From: CgChris@IX.NETCOM.COM (Chris Christenson)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:28:10 GMT
Autodesk has admitted there is a bug here.  It is the same under 95
and NT.  You have to kill the task in order to get your resources
back.
Chris Christenson
>"Wm. David Gassett"  wrote:
>I seem to remember a question not to long ago about this same problem.  My
>news server must have gotten rid of it.  
>After opening and closing AutoCAD R13 in NT 4.0 the memory usage stays
>pretty much the same.  I have a P90 w/32M RAM.  When it starts it's using
>about 29M after opening and closing ACAD it rises to 40+M.  Any 
>comments/answers would be greatly appreciated.
>TIA
>d
>-- 
>"No way of thinking or doing, however ancient, can 
>  be trusted without proof."   Thoreau  /Walden/
Chris Christenson
CC Systems & Software
cgchris@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: ACadR13 running on Win3.11
From: remus@ylcbmal.po.my (Remus Shai)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:45:06 GMT
I have a system running on Windows 3.11 and wanted to run ACadR13
under windows mode, but a error message shown Win32 are not loader. I
was trying so hard to search on the Net but it seem to be many Win32
driver : Win32s, Win32k ....Etc.
Can anyone tell me where can I get this Win32 Driver ??
	Thanks
Remus Shai
remus@ylcbmal.po.my
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Subject: Re: ARXload failed
From: Yvan Le Comte
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:46:52 -0500
Yves Gingras wrote:
> =
> I have a friend who has had a surprise when trying to work whit the
> render of the V13. He has received the message "ARXload failed" which
> is surprising considering the fact that he has used it before and that
> the files (render.arx) are present in the "support" subdirectori.
> Could anyone give me a suggestion of what to do to go around this
> little problem. Oh yes! Also, it is impossible to reach the
> "preference" dialog box, and it his a Windows version.
> =
>         Thanks in advance
> =
> -----------------------------------------------------
>         Yves Gingras
>         Montreal, Qu=E9bec.
>         e-mail: ygingras@vir.com
Tu n'as qu'=E0 d=E9truire le fichier render.cfg. Ce fichier interf=E8re
quelque fois lorsqu'il est mal configur=E9 ou qu'autovision ait =E9t=E9
utilis=E9 en essais pendant un mois.
Bonne chance!  :-)
"Greed is eternal."
   -- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #10
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Subject: Re: ARXload failed
From: Yvan Le Comte
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:46:26 -0500
Yves Gingras wrote:
> =
> I have a friend who has had a surprise when trying to work whit the
> render of the V13. He has received the message "ARXload failed" which
> is surprising considering the fact that he has used it before and that
> the files (render.arx) are present in the "support" subdirectori.
> Could anyone give me a suggestion of what to do to go around this
> little problem. Oh yes! Also, it is impossible to reach the
> "preference" dialog box, and it his a Windows version.
> =
>         Thanks in advance
> =
> -----------------------------------------------------
>         Yves Gingras
>         Montreal, Qu=E9bec.
>         e-mail: ygingras@vir.com
Tu n'as qu'=E0 d=E9truire le fichier render.cfg. Ce fichier interf=E8re
quelque fois lorsqu'il est mal configur=E9 ou qu'autovision ait =E9t=E9
utilis=E9 essais pendant un mois.
Bonne chance!  :-)
"Greed is eternal."
   -- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #10
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Subject: Re: Linewidth display "wish" for R14
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 03:04:19 GMT
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:57:00 -0800, C  wrote:
>I second the motion. Listen up a Autodesk thats what we want.
They have :-)
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: Re: year 2000 and lisp
From: "Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:44:03 -0500
Frank Whaley wrote:
[snip]
> AutoCAD does very little date manipulation, but uses an internal 
> date format that will be good until almost 2100.  We intend to 
> update our code before then.  :-)
Frank: Just curious. What about the data that's being created now? Is
that Year 2000 Compliant? 
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Subject: Re: "Save Changes to UNNAMED?"
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 03:04:26 GMT
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:02:54 -0500, Dan Vines 
wrote:
>The problem you are encountering is that when you start AutoCAD, it
>opens a blank drawing automatically.  When you then try opening the dwg
>you want to work on, it wants to save this new blank drawing.  I'd be
>interested if you find out how to start autocad without having it do
>that.
Check your ACAD.LSP file and any programs/commands loaded/run by it
which cause the database to be modified.  Such functions should not
really be run in ACAD.LSP.  These should be in separate prototype
drawings.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: Re: Designjet 250C - Can't turn off dithered black & white plotting
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 03:04:27 GMT
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:47:05 -0500, aball@icis.on.ca wrote:
>Howdy.
>
>I cannot seem to make a DesignJet 250 give me a black and white plot
>without having coloured lines dithered to gray scale.  Colour plots just
>fine.
>
>The details:
>- AutoCAD LT/95 ver. 3.0
>- Windows NT 4.0
>- HP DesignJet 250C (E)
>
>I'm using the NT4.0 driver for the 250C that shipped with NT.  HP's
>Windows 95 plotter drivers won't install (no surprise).
>
>In the Plot Configuration box, Ditherering is unchecked.  Also, I've
>chosen Gray Scale in the Advanced Document Properties Tab of the Print
>Setup box.
>
>I've downloaded the patch to correct the dithered printing problem in
>LT95.  The patch doesn't seem to work and AutoDesk Support can't explain
>why.
You should also check that your Win 95 system printer driver is set to
not use colour, and that greyscales are converted to black.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: cursor ucs
From: bschwa3742@aol.com
Date: 14 Nov 1996 03:37:41 GMT
when picking a window to move,copy, ect. when ucs is set in another angle
then the world ucs the cursor is in world while the window is picked. Is
there a way to keep the window i'm picking to stay in present ucs.
             thank you,
     schwanz@glis.net 
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Subject: Re: How do I explode an attributed block without losing text information ???
From: culprb@aol.com
Date: 14 Nov 1996 03:17:37 GMT
>Basically I need to know how to explode an attributed block without
losing 
text information ???  I have 20 P&ID;'s with lots of attributed blocks..<
Before I share a routine with you, I need to know why you want to explode
these blocks (I'e lost the origin of this thread)
Randy
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Subject: Re: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: erg@panix.com (Edward Green)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 00:12:13 -0500
In article <569cef$817@news1.halcyon.com>,
Dennis Shinn  wrote:
>gg@aha.ru (George Gerasimov) wrote:
>
>
>>But don't you think that most  (if not all) software is overpriced? I
>>mean, for private user  $300-500 for copy of MS Office (for instance)
>>is way too much.  
>
>Yes that's a lot of money, And +-$US3,000 is a lot to pay for a copy of CAD
>software as well. But with either, are you/we able to produce "x" amount more
>finished product, able to automate many repetitive drawing tasks, able to
>produce very highly accurate electronic files for downstream manufacturing ....
>all of which saves time and waste? What value do you put on your time? I
>consider an hour's time saved worth between $US55-60. 
>
Well,  that's the consumer side of the picture;  the supply side of
the picture is,  they are free to price to product at whatever level
they feel will give them the maximum return.
Sorry to butt in... I actually thought this was a group about cads.
I'll just be moseying along now...
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Subject: Excel 5 to R13
From: mwhittin@freenet.npiec.on.ca (Michael Whittington)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 02:01:04 GMT
Is it possible to store info in an Excel worksheet and use this data to 
update an Autocad 13 drawing.
For example to draw a circle you need x,y of the centre and r the radius. 
x,y &r; could be stored in an excel spread sheet. Is it possible to get an 
Autocad drawing to get this info from an excel spread sheet and then use 
it to draw or update the circle. This could be use for updating graphs 
and other information.
Alternativly where would I find info on updating or changing DXF files.
Thanks
--
mike whittington, Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada      
mwhittin@freenet.npiec.on.ca                           
http://www.c2.org/~writeway/callig/members/mike.html
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Subject: Re: Importing raster files into r13c4
From: Glen Brent
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:31:06 -0500
Ah, but you can! Look on page 540 of the R13 User's guide and it
discusses how to do it. Also, the images have to be in the right format
since it will not import some variations, which was the problem that I
was having. 
The only other issue that I see is that you have to have a machine that
can handle the drawing size that results. Fortunately, I do.
As for Softdesk's Overlay esp  product. Been there, tried that. I have
never been able to make it work, really it has never even installed
correctly for me. Softdesk's manual's are no help of course.... They
make AutoCad's manuals look great by comparison. 
Thanks, but I fixed my problem and am happily tracing my scans on screen
in AutoCad.....
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Subject: FS: Upgradeable AutoCad Rel 11 w/AME
From: Charity Slepcevic
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:32:53 -0800
We have 7 sets Rel 11 for DOS left, each with its AME option.  These are
all unopened, originally sealed diskettes.  Manuals are also available
and included.
As you probably already know, the value of the AutoCAD is $2,895, AME is
$495 and the cost to upgrade to Rel 12/13 CD-ROM is $495.  Therefore,
the real value of this is $3,390 each if you purchased them from a
dealer.
As these are owned by our company, sales tax @ 7.75% would apply to
California residents.  But if you bought it in a store you would have to
pay tax anyhow.
Please email with offer if interested.
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Subject: Re: Filling Fonts
From: "Robert Albert"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 03:52:20 GMT
You can explode the text into polylines using a program called XShp.  I
can't remember where I got it, but probably Compuserve's Acad Forum.  Then
you simply hatch the interior of the polylines.
-- 
Robert Albert
Director of Technical Services
Microsol Resources Corporation
Authorized Autodesk AEC Systems Center
Janet Elliott  wrote in article
...
> I am using ACAD R 12 for Windows.  How do I fill in the fonts that
> come with the program e.g. the cibt postscript font?  If it is not
> possible, then how do I import text from Word--I tried copying to the
> clipboard and pasting into the drawing without success.
> Thanks in advance.
> Janet Elliott
> Jasper Graphics
> janell@povn.com
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Help me choosing a tablet...
From: "David McNicol"
Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:14:41 GMT
I've used a digitizer since R11 and it was fine when using DOS based
AutoCAD and 3DS but if you want to use windows, the digitizer can be a pain
in the butt. If you use a mouse for windows and a digitizer for winacad
then you will literally use both. Digitizer for drawing and mouse for
menus. You can configure your digitizer as a mouse for windows but
sometimes certain programs can be finicky about that. My suggestion to you
is instead of buying a digitizer, buy a good mouse instead.
Regards,
D.McNicol
engineer@handling.com
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Subject: Req. Kurta wintab driver
From: Sarah Woodman
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:50:40 -0700
Need a wintab driver for win95 for kurta IS/ONE digitizer.
Could you please Email it to me 
thewoodmans@earthlink.net
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Subject: dxfout problem (R13)
From: "L.O.G."
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:59:59 -0500
Hey all, 
I am having a bit of a problem saving my drawing as a .dxf file. I follw
the book word for word and stiil end up with an unreadible file. I am
trying to take it into strata studio pro on a mac so I can render it but
I keep having a problem where I am told by strata that the .dxf contains
no geometric data. I thought this was just a Strata problem but I can't
even take the .dxf back into Autocad.
Any ideas?
Please e-mail me at:  design@ppsdesign.com
Dave
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Subject: Re: Designjet 250C - Can't turn off dithered black & white plotting
From: Stewart Thompson
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:49:48 -0800
aball@icis.on.ca wrote:
> 
> Howdy.
> 
> I cannot seem to make a DesignJet 250 give me a black and white plot
> without having coloured lines dithered to gray scale.  Colour plots just
> fine.
> 
> The details:
> - AutoCAD LT/95 ver. 3.0
> - Windows NT 4.0
> - HP DesignJet 250C (E)
> 
> I'm using the NT4.0 driver for the 250C that shipped with NT.  HP's
> Windows 95 plotter drivers won't install (no surprise).
> 
> In the Plot Configuration box, Ditherering is unchecked.  Also, I've
> chosen Gray Scale in the Advanced Document Properties Tab of the Print
> Setup box.
> 
> I've downloaded the patch to correct the dithered printing problem in
> LT95.  The patch doesn't seem to work and AutoDesk Support can't explain
> why.
> 
> Help!
> 
> ...and thanks.
> 
> -------------------------------
> Andrew Ball
> Stratford Festival
> aball@stratford-festival.on.ca
> -------------------------------
Andrew:
	Is the dithering black and white or are you getting colours mixed in
with your black and white? What are your pen settings? I don't think you
want
grey scale selected, try turining it off. I am using an HP 680C and I
had to
set all the colours to pen 7 to get black and white output. Hope this
helps.
Stu......
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Subject: Re: Linetypes in ACAD12
From: Sudheer O
Date: 13 Nov 1996 18:52:13 -0800
In article <01bbcdbb.3ea68720$281e81a7@AMDONNAT.city.saskatoon.sk.ca>, "Donna says...
>
>About a month ago Patrick Slattery posted a description on how to create
>linetypes with text in them.  Is this facility only available in ACAD13? 
>I have set up a linetype as suggested and I get an error message "Invalid
>number or bad continuation". Likewise, is the shape complex linetype only
>possible with ACAD 13?  
>
>If I should be able to use these in ACAD12, any suggestions on what I am
>doing wrong?
>
>Following is the line I am trying to enter
>
>*Sanitary Sewer _______SAN_______
>A,400,-250,["SAN",Line,S=100,X=-200,Y=-50],-250
Hi
You wont be able to create custom linetypes using text & shapes in r12.
R13 alone permits that.
Regards
Sudheer O
-- 
Sudheer O         |Dr. DWG Products |http://www.cswl.com 
sudhee@cswl.com   |OCX, Library and |1015 East Hillsdale 
Tel :(415) 3722900|Viewers for DWG  |Boulevard, Suite 208
Fax :(415) 5778451|(R12 & R13) files|Foster City CA 94404
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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: Marc Lopez
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:43:40 -0600
> ATTENTION ALL ENGINEERS AND DRAFTSMEN:
> 
> 1.  Which drafting software does your company currently use?
> 
AutoCad R12 (currently), R13 (in the next few weeks)
> 2.  Does this software meet your needs?
> 
Yes.
> 3.  Do you anticipate any changes in your needs which would warrant
> implementation of a new
>         software package within the next five years?
> 
I do not forsee the need for an implementation of a completely new
software package, with the exception of upgrades.
> 4.  If there was one software package that a new student out of college
> should know, what would
>         you suggest?
Definitely AutoCad.  A majority of the engineering and architecture
firms I work with
use AutoCad.  It seems to have become almost a standard in CAD.
Good luck with the survey.  I would be interested in having you post or
e-mail me the
results.
--Marc
P.S. Gig'em Aggies!!!!
	TAMU c/o '95
	WHOOP!
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Subject: Need help importing drawings in Word
From: Delfoe Trammell
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:35:54 -0800
Hi,
Problem 1:
  I need help copying my Autocad 12 (Windows Version) drawings to Word 
6.0. When I import my drawings to Word 6.0, the line weights do not 
transfer.  In other words, the drawing will transfer, but the line 
weights will not.  This causes my drawings in Word to look blurry and 
unclear when printing.  What am I doing wrong?
Problem 2:
  I attempted to load a hidden line in my drawing and now all of my 
continuous lines are printing hidden lines.  Everything appears to be 
normal in my layer settings and the drawing shows a continuous line, but 
the printed output is hidden lines.  I also used two different printers. 
Can anyone out there give me a hand with either problem.  Thank you.
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Subject: Re: Re. AutoCAD LT ver 1.
From: ci578@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Peter James)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 04:09:39 GMT
Alan Kenny (kenpart@enternet.co.nz) writes:
> I am currently running the above hooked up to a Canon 200ex printer. The 
> problem is that the printer does not want to know about line widths. Is this a 
> problem with my early version of LT or Canons problem or do I need to go to a 
> later version and win95. Can anyone help?. By the way I have had good service 
> from this software and feel that it was a good move by Autodask to offer it as 
> the full blown version is highly over priced and over-rated for the needs of 
> most users. Cheers.
We have LT v1 and use a Canon BJ230 printer. We use the standard Windows
3.1 printer driver that came with the printer (approx 3 years old). We
have no problem with line widths. I don't use it myself, so
I can't give you precise instructions, but I know that this is all dealt
with in the print/plot set up area of LT.
--
Peter James
Ottawa, Ontario
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Subject: Help about make demo
From: wjwjwj@public.bta.net.cn
Date: 14 Nov 1996 07:56:28 GMT
 I want to get some tools to make demo programs about the orpreation in AutoCAD for DOS,
such as the demo programs of EaglePoint inc.
How can I get the tools?
Thanks very much
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Subject: Re: Microstation Vs. Autocad
From: kg@orion.ddorf.rhein-ruhr.de (Karlo Gross)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 11:51:06 +0100
Mark Hamstra  wrote:
: In article <567k86$1pb@adcmail.adc.com>,
: 	rjennings@fibermux.com (Roger Jennings) writes:
: > "Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"  wrote:
: >>>Besides, microstation supports almost every operating system used in the
: >>>real business world.  
: >>Yep, and even some that aren't (as in Linux.)
:  
: > Any hopes of getting a Linux versions for the academic suites :)
: Yes!  In fact, until there is adequate expressed commercial interest, that's
: the only place you'll see the Linux version of MicroStation.
Hi Mark
I'm shure this fact changes in the future.
Karlo
-- 
email:		kg@orion.ddorf.rhein-ruhr.de
smail:		Karl-O. Gross Blombachweg 11 40625 Duesseldorf Germany
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Subject: Re: DOS-13c4 in win95
From: Juha Sallinen
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:01:36 +0200
> I am running DOS-13c4 in windows '95 on dos prompt(for study purposes,
> dos13c4 on school net.) and I am unable to toggle  (alt-tab) between it and
> my desktop. When I try to return to autocad in progress, all I get is a
> scrambled screen and a locked up system when I try to ctrl-alt-del close
Hi
Before switching to desktop, flipscreen to text-mode at AutoCAD. Problem
is also possible to avoid using VGA-driver-only.
If you forget that, use REINIT-command inside the AutoCAD (hmmm, you can
not see dialog, so ALT-I, spacebar, Enter, I think so ;)
   Sincerely,
   Juha
   *********************************************************
      Email:  js@mpoli.fi / Web:  Http://www.mpoli.fi/~js
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Subject: Re: Tablet
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:21:35 GMT
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:37:59 GMT, Jake@iaehv.nl (Jake) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I got digitizer a acacad d-9000 with a wintab driver for win95 for use
>with acadr13  win95 version.
>My problem is  my drawning cross is shaking like hell.
>I tried almost everything but with no success.
>
>What's the matter did i forget something?
>
A client of mine has Graphtec digitisers which do this.  On these
digitisers, it has nothing to do with the drivers, but is a problem
with the hardware.  They recently bought a new model, and it does not
have the shakes.  It uses the same driver as all the others.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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