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Subject: Re: R14 -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Subject: #9 Image 128 II driver for AutoCad 12 DOS -- From: Gian
Subject: Re: Drawn on top Lisp ??? -- From: Terry Rawkins
Subject: NT4 drivers for Calcomp Drawingboard III -- From: Hydronamic bv
Subject: #9 Image 128 II driver for AutoCad 12 Dos -- From: Gian
Subject: Problem: ACAD 13 Plotting from NT -> Win 3.11 -- From: stefan.illwitzer@uibk.ac.at (Stefan Illwitzer)
Subject: Re: Autocad - Microstation conversion -- From: gibb@eastcoast.co.za (user)
Subject: Re: Support environment -- From: Bob Doncom
Subject: 3D drawings and rendering -- From: Nägel
Subject: complex linetypes with r13 -- From: pburleson@skyenet.net
Subject: Re: R14 -- From: leiser@shadow.net
Subject: Re: Cad color to line/weight standards -- From: "Peter Katzur" <686511@ican.net>
Subject: Object refresh after a move -- From: Tom Crandall
Subject: Regen -- From: "Chuck Lambert"
Subject: Disappearing Lines -- From: Tom Crandall
Subject: Wrong Time for Plot files on NT -- From: Robin
Subject: Re: Object refresh after a move -- From: Lu
Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: Mike Ross
Subject: Re: Pharlap.386 file wanted -- From: "S.A.MASON"
Subject: Re: HP ColorPro 7470A Plotter Driver? -- From: "S.A.MASON"
Subject: Re: Autocad on Unix -- From: gm@HL-Technik.de (Georg Mischler)
Subject: Re: AutoCAD can do anything (well almost) -- From: gm@HL-Technik.de (Georg Mischler)
Subject: Text searches -- From: kenisdad@worldnet.att.net (Mikarena)
Subject: Function Keypad released -- From: CFWJ28A@prodigy.com (Joseph Meshi)
Subject: Kurta tablets -- From: JoelJohns@gnn.com (Joel Johns)
Subject: Digital AccelGraphics PRO 2000 3D accelerator. -- From: Antonio Trogu
Subject: Re: -- From: desim@mid.org
Subject: Re: #9 Image 128 II driver for AutoCad 12 Dos -- From: Charity Slepcevic
Subject: Re: Disappearing Lines -- From: "Robert Albert"
Subject: Re: Text searches -- From: "Robert Albert"
Subject: Color problems printing multiple copies and hidden line plots -- From: b2art@ix.netcom.com
Subject: hatch patterns r13 -- From: engineer@rev.net (David Dearing)
Subject: Re: Autocad - Microstation conversion -- From: "Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"
Subject: Adobe Postscript -- From: Steve Wellcome
Subject: HELP!!!!!!!!!!! -- From: Jeffrey
Subject: Re: ACadR13 running on Win3.11 -- From: Marc Goldman
Subject: HELP! Cannot print...what is ACIS error? -- From: jhata@sure.net (Junji Hata)
Subject: XREF path question -- From: "David E. Gonsalves"
Subject: read-ony button on open command dialog box -- From: cuh2a@aol.com

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Subject: Re: R14
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:21:24 GMT
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:11:42 GMT, AutoCIE@icon.co.za (Chris Edge)
wrote:
>Long time back I was told that Autodesk have two development teams
>working on AutoCAD. One team develop and then support the "ODD"
>releases. The other team develop and then support the "EVEN" releases.
>
>See a trend developing here 2.5, 9, 11, 13 bad.  2.6, 10, 12 good.
>
>So it is the GOOD guys that are working on Release 14, lets give them
>our support with positive input for what we would like to see in
>Release 14.
I like this one.  I am thinking of framing it.
>My pet hate in Rel 13 is dimensioning. Yes some of the features are
>good but what was so wrong with dimensioning in Rel 12 that they had
>to take a backwards step in the editing of dimensions. MTEXT as the
>default. You can't mirror a dimension without having to update the
>text etc.
>
>I have also seen somewhere that Autodesk are thinking of producing
>Release 14 in modular form. Back to the days of  Ver 2.xx + ADE's
The sooner this is done, the better.  Not only will it offer choice
again, it will be a far easier to maintain and fix problems.  At the
moment, there can be many modules which access a function or
procedure, and this makes changing it a nightmare.
>The Advanced Drafting Extensions had some optional features that
>"might" be of use to the AutoCAD user.
>
>Some of the "Optional Extras" in ADE-1 were FILLETS and HATCHING
>
>ADE-2 had OBJECT SNAP, MIRROR and ATTRIBUTES for blocks.
>
>ADE-3 had POLYLINES, you could FREEZE a layer, Objects could be
>HIGHLIGHTED during object selection (on most display devices). And the
>big one AutoLISP.
>
>This wasn't a bad idea you only paid for what you needed.
I don;t think they need to go that far, but certainly things like
rendering, solids modelling, data extensions and the like should be
optional.
>Problem today is that if you only want to do simple 2D drawings you
>can use AutoCAD LT, but if you need to do a little bit more than basic
>2D work you have to buy the full AutoCAD Release 12/13.
>
>75% of my clients would be happy if the CORE MODULE of Release 14 had
>the features of AutoCAD Release 10, as implemented in AutoCAD Release
>12. With the option to buy additional plug-in modules if required.
AutoCAD LT with AutoLISP would be a huge hit, even if the AutoLISP
with it did not allow for the definition of new commands.  What I mean
is that if you want to use it, it has to load and run the routine each
time you call it.
>We would probably end up paying more per feature that we used, but the
>overall cost to the average user would be lower because he/she is only
>paying for what they need.
You should never look at things in dollars per function.  It may give
you an impressive answer, but if you looked at the price in terms of
dollars per function you actually use, you might get a not so nice
answer.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: waiwhite@zip.com.au (Ian A. White)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:21:09 GMT
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:17:19 -0600, Andrew Kidd 
wrote:
>Mayer/Reed wrote:
>> Well, I AM a woman draftsman, and I couldn't care less!  Won't it be nice
>> when women can be secure enough in their equality to not fuss about
>> minor issues??
>> 
>> Su Elliott
>> Mayer/Reed
>
>Thank you Su,  this is what I was getting at!  We all should have a lot more to worry about 
>than titles...
Precisely.
Look, various titles describe jobs, callings, etc.  It is the attitude
of the people that is important.  What is wrong is when people are
made to feel guilty because of a title used.
Me, when I saw the survey request, I read draftsmen as being nothing
more than plural (i.e. more than one respondent required).  I know of
many women who are offended when referred to as "draftsperson" or
"draftswoman".  They know who and what they are and they are at ease
with it.
Quite frankly, you would find arguments if we were referred to as cats
and dogs.  It is attitudes that are important, and not the words used
to describe people.  I live and work in Blacktown.  Now, no one here
objects to it, however some outside pressure groups have wanted to
change it, because to them it has certain connotations and they are
uncomfortable using the word.  This is the problem.  
Take the case of an advertisement for Simpson washing machines.  It
shows Indian dhobis (clothes washers) examining the new product.  The
voice-over comments on the strength and durability of the machine.
Then one of the dhobis gets hold of the plug and looks oddly at it.
The next shot you see is the dhobis beating their clothes on it
because as the advertisement says "it's as solid as a rock".
A local national TV commentator criticised the advertisement saying
that it showed a stereotypical view of "stupid Indian dhobis not
knowing what to do with an electric plug".  Far from it, they know
what a power plug is, it is just that they don't all have access to a
power socket, hence, use something that is built like a rock as one.
What this shows is that we carry the baggage of all our own prejudices
and guilt when we comment on anything.  In the case of the drafting
survey, there was no malicious intent.  It is the "spin" that has been
put on things by everyone who has commented on it, and their own
perceptions that has made this into something.
Now for something completely different.  The spelling checker I just
ran suggested I replace dhobis with dhotis.  For those who don't know,
a dhoti is the traditional garment work by Indian men.
Regards,
Ian A. White, CPEng
waiwhite@zip.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia
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Subject: #9 Image 128 II driver for AutoCad 12 DOS
From: Gian
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:27:00 -0800
Anyone can send or help me because I don't find the driver for my
#9 image 128 II to work with AutoCad 12 for DOS ????
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Subject: Re: Drawn on top Lisp ???
From: Terry Rawkins
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 07:46:25 GMT
In article <55oesf$9mj@news.NetVision.net.il> vnestr@netvision.net.il (Vladimir Nesterovsky) writes:
>On Mon, 04 Nov 1996 14:26:06 +0100,  - Lijnis Nelemans 
>wrote in comp.cad.autocad:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>I'm looking for a Lisp routine I've seen a while ago in wich you
>>can pick an entity wich has to be drawn on top of others.
    AutoCAD is a 3D system so to do the job that you ask
    CHANGE pick Elevation 1.0
    This will move the picked object up 1 unit and is now on top
    all other objects are at Z 0
    My aim is to please                  Terry A Rawkins
                                         66 Gainsborough Bracknell
    Email =  softTAR@SV.Span.com         Berks UK RG12 7WL           
    Also at TerryR@Bracknell.ac.uk
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Subject: NT4 drivers for Calcomp Drawingboard III
From: Hydronamic bv
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:46:17 -0800
Does anybody know if NT4 drivers for the Calcomp drawingboard III are
available?
If yes.. where can I find this driver?
If not.. is it known when the new drivers will be available?
Jan Versteeg
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Subject: #9 Image 128 II driver for AutoCad 12 Dos
From: Gian
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:49:19 -0800
Anyone can send or help me because I' don't find the driver for my
#9 Image 128 II to work with AutoCad 12 DOS.
						Tankyou Gian.
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Subject: Problem: ACAD 13 Plotting from NT -> Win 3.11
From: stefan.illwitzer@uibk.ac.at (Stefan Illwitzer)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:54:23 GMT
I intend to use an Encad HPGL/2 Plotter with Autocad R13 running NT 4
(PC name: "PC01"
The Plotter is connected to a PC running Win 3.11 (PC name: "KELLER",
Printer name "ENCAD").
the plotter ist connected to NT as "\\KELLER\ENCAD".
How can I plot from "PC01" an "\\KELLER\ENCAD" - Autocad demands the
name of an interface (e.g. LPT2),
but it does not accept the name "\\KELLER\ENCAD"
Help please!
Thanks, Stefan
stefan.illwitzer@uibk.ac.at
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Subject: Re: Autocad - Microstation conversion
From: gibb@eastcoast.co.za (user)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 07:48:14 GMT
In article <56b2ad$i10@sun630.bentley.com>, Phil.Chouinard@Bentley.com says...
>
>
>Ari: How are you converting the data? Are you using MicroStation 
>products? If so, what specific versions are you using? Have you 
>tried going through DWG (although it certainly shouldn't make a 
>difference.) Where did the DXF file originate? Can't seem to recall 
>hearing about any of the things that you mention here, but we may be 
>able to help out with any additional information that you can supply.
>
We tried via DXF and straight DWG. We also took a .dgn and converted it to a 
.dwg and then back to a .dgn and had problems in the latter dgn. We have 
microstation v5 and Autocad R12 DOS.
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Subject: Re: Support environment
From: Bob Doncom
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:22:52 +0000
In 95, can you not set up a shortcut to each project, for the desktop,
and then assign a seperate batch in the 95 environment, so that a click
on the correct shortcut would set the paths on the way in, and then fire
up ACAD?
Have fun
Bob
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Subject: 3D drawings and rendering
From: Nägel
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:59:08 -0500
I've done a site plan and building in 3D and it looks fine, even when I
do a hide, but when I render it, the curbs and gutters turn out really
blocky.  I know that I should have set my surftab1 and (or) 2 to a
higher value, but is there any way that I can chage them on an existing
object without having to redraw them all?
Thanks
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Subject: complex linetypes with r13
From: pburleson@skyenet.net
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:41:02 -0600
I use mapping software for compiling topographic maps.
Some clients want these file in autocad. Is it possible to create a
continous arced line (for a treeline) with r13?  I think I can create
a linetype with an arc symbol but I can't get that to work either. I
am not an experienced autocad user (and obviously not an experienced
usenet poster!)  Thanks.  Pam Burleson
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Subject: Re: R14
From: leiser@shadow.net
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:09:24 -0500
> >75% of my clients would be happy if the CORE MODULE of Release 14 had
> >the features of AutoCAD Release 10, as implemented in AutoCAD Release
> >12. With the option to buy additional plug-in modules if required.
> 
> AutoCAD LT with AutoLISP would be a huge hit, even if the AutoLISP
> with it did not allow for the definition of new commands.  What I mean
> is that if you want to use it, it has to load and run the routine each
> time you call it.
> 
Would it make sense if AutoCAD LT and Rel14 were combined making LT the
core module.
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Subject: Re: Cad color to line/weight standards
From: "Peter Katzur" <686511@ican.net>
Date: 14 Nov 1996 13:13:40 GMT
Paul Hoffer  wrote in article <3288C9EC.4D63@ior.com>...
> Hi there
> My company is reviewing the cad standards and I was wondering if anyone
> knows of any recognized standards for:
> 
> 	color to line type
> 
> 	color to line weight
> 
> Please e-mail if you know of any and where the might be obtained.
> 
> Thanks alot
> 
> Paul Hoffer - KACC
> 
This is a favorite topic of mine and our company standard has been in
use since we used 4 shade monitors and it seems to work quite well.
Basically, there are 4 line widths in drafting
.25 mm like dimension, center and phantom lines
.35 mm for text and hidden lines
.50 for object lines
.7 for borders & thick lines
Since Autocad initially had an 8 pen set up and most plotters
have a minimum of an 8 pen setting,  2 colors can be assigned
to each thickness. 
Now since we prefer the black background, and we want the object
lines to be the most distinguishable we picked white. Most times
a second color is required for this thickness. Green is nice and 
bright as well
white, green = .5 mm - continuous - object
Now we want the dimension lines to be in the background so as
not to be as noticeable as the object lines. Blue suits this.
Center lines are required to stand out more than the dimension
lines but not as much as object lines so yellow was chosen for
centerlines.
blue = .25 mm - continuous - dimension
yellow = .25 - center - center
Text must be more noticeable than the dimension lines but still
secondary to the object lines. Red was selected. As with the 
second object line color a second .35 mm color was needed .
Hidden lines are .35. We made them cyan.
red = .35 mm - text
cyan = .35 hidden - hidden
For the border outline and other thick lines the color magenta
was used . It doesn't distract from the rest of the drawing.
The remaining pen (of 8 pens) was also used for thick lines.
magenta, alternate = .7 mm
This is the beauty of autocad that everyone can have there own
settings to suit their needs / requirements. We have this in our
in house cad standard and we request vendors to provide 
the finished dwg file in this format. They can do it however
they want and then change them at the end easy enough.
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Subject: Object refresh after a move
From: Tom Crandall
Date: 14 Nov 1996 13:29:05 GMT
I just updated to R13c4a...
Before, when I erased or moved an object, the object underneath would be 
redrawn (refreshed) automatically.
Example: erase a wide polyline created on top of a circle... the circle 
used to refresh and complete the circumference automatically. Now there 
is no line where the wide polyline was.
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Subject: Regen
From: "Chuck Lambert"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 13:06:13 GMT
Below is a repost due to no response:
Normally, I do a full preview of a plot, the when everything looks OK I hit
OK and send the plot.  After the plot is done the screen does a regen. 
For some reason, the regen no longer happens.  Autoregen is set to ON. 
Anyone have any ideas what is going on and how to fix it?  It's getting to
be a pain to have to do a regen manually after every plot.
------------------------
Chuck Lambert
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Subject: Disappearing Lines
From: Tom Crandall
Date: 14 Nov 1996 14:24:06 GMT
When an oject is moved, why do objects underneath not refresh and fill in 
where the upper object was hiding it
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Subject: Wrong Time for Plot files on NT
From: Robin
Date: 14 Nov 1996 07:47:02 -0700
Anyone seen this problem before?
I'm running NT 3.51 Workstation connecting to an NT 3.51 Server, and
whenever I plot to a file (storing it on the server) using R12 for
Windows the timestamp on the plot file is about 8hrs ahead.  When I save
a drawing or any other file the timestamp is correct.  All of the
computers experience this and they all have the correct time and date in
the bios and when they type time and date.
Thanks,
Robin
-robin@primenet.com
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Subject: Re: Object refresh after a move
From: Lu
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:02:49 -0800
Tom Crandall wrote:
> 
> I just updated to R13c4a...
> Before, when I erased or moved an object, the object underneath would be
> redrawn (refreshed) automatically.
> Example: erase a wide polyline created on top of a circle... the circle
> used to refresh and complete the circumference automatically. Now there
> is no line where the wide polyline was.
Hi Tom,
To my knowledge, standard AutoCAD commands will not redraw entities hidden 
due to their order in the drawing database after move, erase, etc.  Is it 
possible you using a special video driver or customized move command before?
This should do what you are asking;
^C^Cselect;box;\move;p;;\\redraw 
P.S. This is a case where r13win shines.  It was a "piece of cake" creating 
and testing this menu macro.  If I could only get my Hitachi puck to operate 
like r12 DOS, AutoDESK would have a winner.
Cheers,
Lu
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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: Mike Ross
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:05:19 -0500
I THOUGHT YOU ALL WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DRAFTING OR SOMETHING.
Gary Lynn Kerr wrote:
> 
> To whom ever wrote that the term draftsMEN was not correct.  GET A LIFE!
> When the word men/man is used in a word it is generic and means mankind.
> And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time on her
> hands.  Also that same feMALE boss probably would not liked being
> referred to as feMALE/woMEN.  As I said before GET A LIFE!
> 
> On Sat, 9 Nov
> 1996, Jim Weir wrote:
> 
> > Peter  shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
> >
> > ->ATTENTION ALL ENGINEERS AND DRAFTSMEN:
> >
> > I'd suggest before you get out into the real world with a female boss that
> > you find another word for "draftsMEN".
> > >
-- 
Michael E. Ross
s21mer@wildcat.selma.etn.com
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Subject: Re: Pharlap.386 file wanted
From: "S.A.MASON"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 06:37:32 GMT
I too am having difficulty with sessioning (alt-tab) I have a current
pharlap file, yet it persists. I'll inform if solution cometh @ e-mail add.
Craig  wrote in article <328787D0.33AF@pacbell.net>...
> I'm running Acad r12 c4 under Win95, and I'm looking for a more recent 
> version of pharlap.386.  I believe this will help enable me to use 
> ALT-TAB switching with Acad.  I currently have Phar Lap 386|DOS-Extender 
> Redistribution Version 4.1_ACAD2.  I'm looking for version 5 or newer.
> Craig
> 
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Subject: Re: HP ColorPro 7470A Plotter Driver?
From: "S.A.MASON"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 06:28:37 GMT
I aswell need a solution for a HP 7550a, a relic. note- I have no free
physical com ports. (ups, modem,mouse)
jlwelling@aol.com wrote in article
<19961113000600.TAA07172@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> Just got this plotter as a "cast off" from my guy's office. But - and it
> could be a big one - I don't see a driver for it for R12 (or any other
> version for that matter) in HP's listing. We have DOS - any suggestions
> appreciated. Please email me at jlw@aol.com
> 
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Subject: Re: Autocad on Unix
From: gm@HL-Technik.de (Georg Mischler)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:48:30 GMT
Reg Pringle  writes:
> Is there anyone out there using AutoCAD rev12 or rev13 on unix if so 
> could we establish Email contact
Hi Reg,
We use R12 on Solaris 2.4 for drafting and as a 3D frontend to the
Radiance lighting simulation system.
Contact me directly for any questions you don't want to bother this
forum with. Otherwise, it might be a good idea to increase the unix
specific traffic here a bit anyway...
-Georg
(PS: I don't usually read a.c.a)
-- 
Georg Mischler  --  daylight&simulations;  --  mailto: gm@hl-technik.de
HL-Technik  AG  --  consulting engineers  --  http://www.hl-technik.de
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Subject: Re: AutoCAD can do anything (well almost)
From: gm@HL-Technik.de (Georg Mischler)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:08:04 GMT
"Michael A. Graham"  writes:
> 
> : The nice thing about AutoCAD is that just about *anything* can be done. 
> : With the addition of ARX, those that wish to can do just about anything
> : with its power.
> 
> Has anybody had any luck with 3d curve fitting with 3d polylines (not just
> splining)
> 
> How about sweeping a 3d polyline to make a tube (easy to do with a 2d
> polyline)?
Mike,
Check http://www.schorsch.com/autocad/tube.lsp
It may not be perfect, and it is definitively *very* slow when
fitting huge polylines, but it will give you an impression what can
be done with autocad and autolisp in a reasoanly simple fashion.
(No ARX needed, btw)
Ahem... though I still don't get the exact difference you seem to
make between "curve fitting" and "splining".
-Georg
-- 
Georg Mischler  --  daylight&simulations;  --  mailto: gm@hl-technik.de
HL-Technik  AG  --  consulting engineers  --  http://www.hl-technik.de
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Subject: Text searches
From: kenisdad@worldnet.att.net (Mikarena)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 15:55:07 GMT
We would like to query our library of drawings based on all the text contained 
within them. By entering a text string, say, "Pump XYZ", we'd like to retrieve 
all drawings where "Pump XYZ" appears. Any guidance to tools that would do 
this would be appreciated.
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Subject: Function Keypad released
From: CFWJ28A@prodigy.com (Joseph Meshi)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 15:56:40 GMT
                                     NEWS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                      Contact:Joseph Meshi   
Irvine, California  U.S.A                            Comdex S8104  
http://www.genovation.com                      Tel:(714)833-3355          
E-Mail: Genovation.com                           FAX: (714)833-0322
        Genovation Announces New Programmable Function Keypad
          Genovation today announced the introduction and immediate 
delivery of the Function Keypad 35, model 681. The Function Keypad
35 is a compact, all-purpose, commercial grade, programmable 35-key
computer input device. Its principal purpose is to provide single
keystroke macros for commonly used key-press sequences thus
eliminating the need for time consuming, repetitious and error
prone typing of commands. Typical applications for the Function
Keypad 35 include control of equipment and specialized software
programs, and rapid entry of computer commands in lieu of windows
icons for speed sensitive applications such as CAD or flight
simulation games.
The Model 681 interfaces to any computer via the RS232 serial port,
and is fully programmable. The user may elect to individually
define and store up to 70 custom macros (2 per key) in nonvolatile
memory within the keypad, or create, store, then download macros or
groups of macros from the computer at any time. Included software
allows the keypad to be read by the computer either as a serial
device or as a keyboard. An alternative mode allows the use of a
much large number - perhaps hundreds of macros - directly from the
computer's hard disk. A macro may be as long as 64 characters. 
The Function Keypad 35 keys are arranged in a matrix format of 7 by
5 relegendable keys, and any two adjacent keys may be replaced by
a double key. Custom keys are also available from Genovation. The
dark gray keypad measures 15 x 11 cm (6" x 4.5"), and weighs under
400 grams.
Genovation is the leading provider of numeric keypads for notebook
computers, and specializes in the turnkey design, development and
production of custom electronic products.
                                X X X
A photo transparency is available 
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Subject: Kurta tablets
From: JoelJohns@gnn.com (Joel Johns)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:22:54
I have finally conviced most people in my office that a digitizer is no 
longer needed. (running Win'95 and rel 13c4a)  The problem is what do I do 
with the 20 Kurta tablets?  I would like to get enough money out of them to 
cover the cost of good Logitech mice, but if not I have thought about 
donating them to a school or something.
If anyone has an ideas or wants them, please let me know.  They are 12" x 12" 
Kurta XGT tablets.
Thank you for your help,
Joel Johns
Gantt Huberman Architects
500 North Tryon Street
Charlotte, NC 28202
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Subject: Digital AccelGraphics PRO 2000 3D accelerator.
From: Antonio Trogu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:25:02 +0100
I am ordering a Digital Personal Workstation Pentium Pro 200, to work
with AutoCAD R13 and Mechanical Desktop. I need to make heavy use of
solids, to obtain hided views - not rendering.
Does anybody have some idea of the performance difference between a
Matrox Millennium and a Digital AccelGraphics PRO 2000 3D accelerator,
since I have to choose between these two graphics cards - and the
difference in price is considerable.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
-- 
Antonio Trogu
Studio TIME S.r.l.
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Subject: Re:
From: desim@mid.org
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:41:10 -0600
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In article <56ct2q$nr6@iserver.dolby.com>,
    sk@dolby.com wrote:
> 
> I launch R13 and then open a drawing either with OPEN or by selecting
> it from the list of four files near the bottom of the FILE pulldown.
> Is there any way to make R13 stop displaying the "Save Changes to
> UNNAMED?" window from appearing when I do this?     Since I haven't
> done anything between launching R13 and the command to open a file it
> seems unnecessary for ACAD to be asking that question.  What
> "Changes"?
> Steve K
> 
Steve,
Maybe your prototype drawing is REL.12 ???
If so, when starting a new drawing (which is what you do when launching
AutoCAD) AutoCAD will convert the prototype to rel 13 hence the change.
if not, maybe your acad.lsp file has a command
to do something. You can test this by renaming your acad.lsp file
to something else.
good luck
-- 
Mr. Desi Moreno   desim@mid.org
Modesto Irrigation District
Electrical Engineering Technician
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Subject: Re: #9 Image 128 II driver for AutoCad 12 Dos
From: Charity Slepcevic
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:19:36 -0800
Gian wrote:
> 
> Anyone can send or help me because I' don't find the driver for my
> #9 Image 128 II to work with AutoCad 12 DOS.
>                                                 Tankyou Gian.
Gian,
Their home page at
http://www.nine.com
has a link for driver updates.  Have you checked it out?
Charity
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Subject: Re: Disappearing Lines
From: "Robert Albert"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 17:11:42 GMT
This is probably due to the settings of your display configuration.  Your
currently selected display driver will either allow you to set it so that
it will refresh objects underneath without having to use the redraw
command, or it won't.  If it won't allow you to set it so that it will
refresh automatically, you will have to switch drivers or get used to it.
-- 
Robert Albert
Director of Technical Services
Microsol Resources Corporation
ralbert@microsolresources.com
Tom Crandall  wrote in article
<56fa26$rc5$1@news3.microserve.net>...
> When an oject is moved, why do objects underneath not refresh and fill in
> where the upper object was hiding it
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Text searches
From: "Robert Albert"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 17:20:44 GMT
You could do this from your operating system.  Which one do you use?  If
it's Windows95 you can use Find and search all DWG files with a text string
parameter.  If you are using DOS, you might have to get ahold of a DOS
program like Norton FileFind to do a directory with a text string
parameter.
-- 
Robert Albert
Director of Technical Services
Microsol Resources Corporation
ralbert@microsolresources.com
Mikarena  wrote in article
<56ffcr$fdu@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> We would like to query our library of drawings based on all the text
contained 
> within them. By entering a text string, say, "Pump XYZ", we'd like to
retrieve 
> all drawings where "Pump XYZ" appears. Any guidance to tools that would
do 
> this would be appreciated.
> 
> 
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Subject: Color problems printing multiple copies and hidden line plots
From: b2art@ix.netcom.com
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:22:23 -0500
Greetings...
Would be very appreciative for any assistance.
Specs:
Autocad Version: 13_c4 running on Windows 95 system
Printer/Plotter: HP Designjet 350c
Currently using printer driver ver.: 3.2...but just downloaded ver 3.3
from HP's web site
Problem:
When printing out extra copies (done by reprinting, not by setting print
for multiple copies) of the same drawing or when printing out drawing's
hidden lines there is an inconsistency with printing colors.  The first
plot will print with correct colors but subsequent prints are showing
some colors being substituted with other colors.
Please reply via newgroup or via e-mail to b2art@ix.netcom.com
Thank you in advance for your kind assistance.
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Subject: hatch patterns r13
From: engineer@rev.net (David Dearing)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:17:02 GMT
	I'm interested in some new hatch patterns for Autocad r13, Civil
Engineering related if possible, patterns such as stone, aggregate
etc., If any knows where I could possible get some email me at
engineer@ci.roanoke.va.us or post an article.
				thanks 
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Subject: Re: Autocad - Microstation conversion
From: "Phil Chouinard [Bentley]"
Date: 14 Nov 1996 17:09:20 GMT
gibb@eastcoast.co.za (user) wrote:
[snip]
>We tried via DXF and straight DWG. We also took a .dgn and converted 
>it to a .dwg and then back to a .dgn and had problems in the latter 
>dgn. We have microstation v5 and Autocad R12 DOS.
Ari: Thanks for the additional information. If you could provide us 
with samples and specific product data (i.e.: specific MicroStation 
version number (Help > About -> all 8 digits may be important on our 
end), we'll definitely look into this. By your E-mail address, it 
seems as though our Europe group would be most appropriate for you. 
They can be contacted via mailto:support@bentley.nl. HTH
BTW, there's an unmoderated USENET newsgroup dedicated primarily to 
MicroStation-related issues at news:comp.cad.microstation that you 
might be interested in taking a look at.
 ============== One of "The People Behind MicroStation" ==============
 Phil Chouinard - ITO                            Phone: (610) 458-5000
 Bentley Systems                                   Fax: (610) 458-1060
 690 Pennsylvania Drive                         CompuServe: 75300,3376
 Exton, PA  USA 19341-1136           mailto:Phil.Chouinard@Bentley.com
 == MicroStation FORUM & Exhibition @ http://www.bentley.com/forum/ ==
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Subject: Adobe Postscript
From: Steve Wellcome
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:45:14 -0800
Postscript is a text formatting language.  It's typically
generated by text processing/typesetting/publishing software.
The resulting output can be fed to a printer that understands
the Postscript language to produce formatted output.  Although
one can write directly in Postscript, it's pretty painful.
There are books available that describe the language, if you're
really interested in it.
As for your question, do you need it?  Probably not.  Microsoft
doesn't believe in it (they're on the TrueType bandwagon).  
AutoCAD doesn't need it. Adobe Photoshop might use it, but I
bet Photoshop doesn't absolutely need it either.  If you're just
doing graphics stuff you almost certainly don't need it.  Postscript
can do graphics, but it's primarily for text.
(Usual disclaimers....)
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Subject: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Jeffrey
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:38:32 -0500
I have autocad R13 installed on my desktop.  The original software came
loaded on a CD ROM.  I also own a laptop but it doesn't have a CD  ROM. 
I tried to make back diskettes from the soft loaded on my hard drive on
my desktop, and then tried to "restore" it on my laptop......It didn't
work.  Does anyone know how I could accomplish getting Autocad loaded on
to my laptop??  Lap linking won't work, since my laptop is an IBM and it
doesn't support laplink.  Any help would be really appreciated.  Please
Email me directly at ssbn628@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: Re: ACadR13 running on Win3.11
From: Marc Goldman
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:00:28 -0800
Remus Shai wrote:
> 
> I have a system running on Windows 3.11 and wanted to run ACadR13
> under windows mode, but a error message shown Win32 are not loader. I
> was trying so hard to search on the Net but it seem to be many Win32
> driver : Win32s, Win32k ....Etc.
> 
> Can anyone tell me where can I get this Win32 Driver ??
> 
>         Thanks
> 
> Remus Shai
> remus@ylcbmal.po.my
The Win32s drivers should be on the CD from which you install R13.
Marc Goldman
AEC Market Group
Autodesk
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Subject: HELP! Cannot print...what is ACIS error?
From: jhata@sure.net (Junji Hata)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:30:06 GMT
I'm having a problem with printing.  If I try to print a 
drawing, ACAD gives me a message "ACIS error - 1073741678
Stack check." and cannot print properly. (It print, but most 
entities are missing.)  What is this error?  Why it happens
and how can I fix it?
I use ACAD R13c3 with Win3.1, Pentium, 48MB RAM.  The printer 
is HP Laserjet 4M.  Driver is installed correctly.  In ACAD
configuration, System Printer is chosen as a plotting device.
Any response will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
-- 
Junji Hata, Los Angeles
jhata@sure.net
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Subject: XREF path question
From: "David E. Gonsalves"
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:26:09 GMT
I've received a drawing from one of our consultants, where they have xref'd
about 12-15 DWGs.  I have all of the xref DWGs, or at least I think I do. 
They all have the original paths bound to the xref (which seems to be a
network drive, I could put the xrefs on another of our machines, copy the
files over, and map the drive, but that seems stupid and
counterproductive), I've tried to redirect the path using the XREF PATH
command, but it keeps puking.
So, my question is, is there a simple way to strip the path from an xref? 
Am I missing something?  The book says you can do multiple files at the
same time (at least that's what it seems to be saying), but I'm doing
something wrong.
Anyone have a solution?
TIA
David E. Gonsalves, LSIT
delliottg@olywa.net
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Subject: read-ony button on open command dialog box
From: cuh2a@aol.com
Date: 14 Nov 1996 18:19:45 GMT
i have a question 
i'm using autocad r13c4 (windows 95).
whenever i try to OPEN an existing acad r12 dos drawing from a directory
on 
my novell network, the read-only box on the open command dialog box
automatically gets checked.
my question(s) is why? and/or  how do i change it?????
thanks
mike pacholski
cadd operations manager
cuh2a
princeton, nj
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