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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey -- From: cbonnett@netonecom.net
Subject: Re: When will the U.S. finally go metric? -- From: jchrist@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jock Robert Ian Christie)
Subject: testing spring force - how? -- From: atp@kepler.unh.edu (Andrew T Piskorski)
Subject: Environmental, Energy & Plant Engineering Expo -- From: Linda Taylor

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Subject: Re: Drafting Software Survey
From: cbonnett@netonecom.net
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 96 03:41:31 GMT
On 11/12/96 4:54PM, in message <3288F228.2CDE@inetdirect.net>, Andrew Kidd 
 wrote:
> Jane, Watson wrote:
> > 
> > >Gary Lynn Kerr said...To whom ever wrote that the term
> > draftsMEN was not correct.  GET A LIFE!
> > >And a female boss has a problem with it she has too much time
> > on her hands....GET A LIFE! ....snip, snip, snip!
> > 
> > Here, here Katarina!
> > 
> > Gary, it's rather sad you feel the way you do, maybe you'll get
> > a life yourself one day.  In the meantime, will you take that
> > attitude with your female boss when she has to reprimand you?
> > (If you don't have a female boss yet, chances are you'll
> > probably have one in the future).  Get rid of your appalling
> > attitude before she gets rid of you!
> 
> I have a female boss already,  and she is open enough to realize that when I 
> say 
> draftsman or designer,   I mean the same thing.  She calls them the same...  
> Why 
> does everything have to be so "politically correct".  Why would you be 
> offended 
> to be called a draftsman if that is what you have studied to be?  What would 
> you 
> rather be called?  A draftswoman?  Geeez....    I agree with Gary,  get a 
> life! 
> 
> IM(not so)HO!!!
> -- 
> Andy Kidd   kidd@inetdirect.net   http://netdirect.net/~kidd
> 
> "He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him.
> He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a child. Teach him.
> He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
> He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise. Follow him."---Author unkown
Ok, for all the suppressors out there, language is an ever-changing method of 
communication, e.g. every few years new dictionaries are produced with (what do 
you know NEW WORDS!)  Second, if individuals are affected by the terminology 
used to describe them, then let those people correct the words how they see 
fit.  If it aggravates you that badly, you may need to seek psychiatric help to 
find out why this even bothers you!
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Subject: Re: When will the U.S. finally go metric?
From: jchrist@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jock Robert Ian Christie)
Date: 16 Nov 1996 18:08:54 -0800
In article <56itgb$3s@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us>,
James Wentworth  wrote:
>
> A SMALL SNIP
>
>If we wished, we could once again be a self-contained economy and 
>society.  The backlash against NAFTA and GATT are the first signs of our 
>possible return to our former economic state of affairs.  In such a 
>situation, we can and will use whatever system of weights and measures we 
>choose with impunity.  If other nations don't like it, so be it.
	The previous message forgot to footnote Pat Buchanan.  We will
NEVER again be a self contained economy for 2 simple reasons.
1)  Most people will buy the cheaper product (if = quality), regardless
    of origin.  
	OF COURSE INTERNATIONAL PRODUCTS ARE TYPICALLY METRIC
2)  American companies want to sell their goods overseas and generate
    more revenue.  These companies can not afford to manufacture goods
    in both metric and imperial units.  As mentioned earlier in this
    thread - Look under the hood of any recent GM/Ford/Chrysler.  
    Other than the diameter of the wheels and the speedometer output -
    *everything* is metric.
   	THESE COMPANIES WILL MANUFACTURE METRIC GOODS TO SELL EVERYWHERE.
	This does not mean that Farmer Jones will not be able to
sell his wheat by the bushel to his neighbor.  But when that wheat
gets shipped abroad, it will be sold by the metric tonne.
	I realize that some people are scared by the metric system.
But it will a slightly simpler and less confusing world when we
all agree to use the metric system and stop whining. Just because
 'miles were good enough for my grandpa so they are good enough for me.'  
If you really like the good old days - why are you using the 
new-fangled Internet?
						Jock R. I. Christie
p.s. Remember 1 m ~ waist height, 0 deg C = ice, 100 deg C = steam.
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Subject: testing spring force - how?
From: atp@kepler.unh.edu (Andrew T Piskorski)
Date: 16 Nov 1996 23:33:10 -0500
I would like a quick, easy, accurate way of measuring the force of
springs, specifically, steel magazine springs.  What's the best way of
doing this?  30 pounds force (133 N) would be plenty for a maximum. 
I could of course simply build some sort of apparatus to sit atop the
spring and pile weights on it, but while sufficiently accurate, that
wouldn't by quick, or easy.  I'm hoping there's a better way.
It would also be nice to be able to get a force vs. spring compression
curve, rather than just measuring a point or two and depending on Hooke's
law, but that's frosting, not really necessary. 
Please Cc: any posts to me, thanks...
-- 
--
Andrew Piskorski
atp@hopper.unh.edu
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Subject: Environmental, Energy & Plant Engineering Expo
From: Linda Taylor
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:18:38 -0500
On January 15-16, 1997, The Environmental, Energy, and Plant
Engineering Expo will be held in Raleigh.  This event will bring
together industry, state agencies, educators, and professional
organizations to examine environmental and energy issues faced by
business and industry in North Carolina.  Sponsors of this event are;
  Association of Facility Engineers
  The Manufacturers and Chemical Industry Council of NC
  North Carolina State University
  NC Environmental Technologies Consortium
  Wake County Local Emergency Planning Committee
60 vendors from around the region are expected to display their
products during the 2-day expo.  Over 50 educational programs will be
presented during the Expo.  Topics range from Environmental
Technologies to Emergency Planning.  The Expo and all educational
programs will be free to participants. Several presentations will
offer Continuing Education Unit (CEU) credit and Professional
Development Hour (PDH) credit to pre-registrants.
 Contact:Beth Quick
        Continuing and Professional Education
        North Carolina State University
        Phone: 919-515-8177   Fax: 919-515-7614
        E-Mail CPE@NCSU.edu
For more information visit our web page for the Expo
http://www2.ncsu.edu/cpe/529.htm
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