Subject: Re: Which politician do YOU think will help the industry
From: xdekdr@oryx.com (kurt d reisser)
Date: 11 Nov 1996 13:55:33 GMT
James Huang suggested the creation of
-- > *> s.g.p.politics
> *> s.g.p.pump_prices
but I think that we would more accurately create new groups:
s.g.p.political.drivel and s.g.p.irrlelvant.blather
Alas, there is no political gain to be realized by standing up for the oil
industry, Reagan didn't do it, Bush didn't do it, Clinton didn't and won't
do it, and Dole wouldn't have done it. However, I must admit that as an
explorationist involved in international exploration, Clinton has moved the U.S.
State Department away from a "hands-off" mode to an activist mode in promoting
U.S. business interests including oil. This is a very positive change from
previous administrations and the best we are likely to get in the future.
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Subject: Re: Data Sharing on the Rig - What's new in Operations ? Nothing !
From: Trevor Hicks <"+++***TrevorHicks"@slb.com$$$%%%>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:29:19 -0600
(posted and mailed)
Bernhard W. seubert wrote:
>
> Why can the operations people not share their data ?
[snip]
>
> It could be sooo easy:
No, it isn't easy. If it was, data integration on the rig would already
exist.
Everyone on the rig plugs into the rig's network
> and shares his information with the rest of the team.
This doesn't magically happen by wishing for it. The "plug into the
network" part is easy, the "shares his information" isn't. At the low
level, maybe one program stores BH Temp as a 32 bit float and another stores
it as a 64 bit float and another may use a 32 bit integer. Maybe one
program calls it BH_Temp, another has Bottomhole_Temperature, the
permutations are endless. One stores its data in Oracle, another uses
Access, still another has its own homegrown data store. BH Temp may be an
attribute of the Well object in one data model and an attribute of borehole
segments, several of which compose a well in another data model. Many
programs are not even able to export data "real time" but only through
persistent storage such as a flat file or database. If I were so inclined I
could probably think of more problems. These are fundamental features that
you can't change without a significant rewrite of existing software.
You could look at
> someone's data like on a web-page (provided access rights are granted to
> this data set) and real time data like the drill monitor (with weights
> and pump) or the mudlogger's "life" data could be flickering on
> everybody's laptop screen, everywhere. Even in the town office or
> corporate headoffice.
>
> So, the technology is there
The hardware and network infrastructure exists. The POSC/Epicentre data
standards (which are designed to solve many of the problems I outline above)
are still emerging. But the real issue is that all of the service companies
(mine included) have a significant investment in software that works and
makes us money. Sure we'd like to have seamless data integration, but we
also have to consider whether the benefits are worth the risk and additional
investment. What benefit is there to Schlumberger if Halliburton can read
its data? It's hard enough to be able to share data within the company
where we have control over both ends.
I'm not saying its a bad idea to share data, we'd all like to see it. But
don't complain about it not happenning because it's an easy problem that the
service companies are too lazy to solve. It's going to require a
significant effort and large amounts of money, and most important a tangible
payoff for that investment. And don't forget that there's already a huge
commitment of resources just to keep software working and to add the new
features demanded by the industry.
[snip]
>
> Bernhard W. Seubert
> Consultant
> Jakarta - Indonesia
Trevor Hicks
TrevorHicks@slb.com
Schlumberger - Austin Product Center
All opinions are mine alone and do not reflect those of my employer.
Subject: Re: once more linguistic help needed
From: phoenixnrg@aol.com
Date: 11 Nov 1996 17:08:29 GMT
In article <563di8$s5s@tombstone.kent.edu>, kmischer@kent.kent.edu (Katja
Mischerikow) writes:
>Hi y'all
>
>once more an easy question from a layperson:
>Are IOIP and OOIP synonyms?
>If not, what exactly is the difference? (I know what the acronyms
>stand for, I am just not sure if initial and original mean absolutely
>the same in this context of petroleum reservoirs).
>
>thanks a million
>
>Katja
Katja...
As a graduate of UT (University of Toledo to you Texas, Tennessee, and
Tulsa folks), I am always happy to help out a Mid-Am conference compatriot
.
After 32 years in the business, I can think of absolutely no reason why
these two terms would ever be anything other than synonymous with regard
to petroluem reservoirs. Good luck in your studies.
Bill
================================================================
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Phoenix Energy Associates "It is only when we forget all our
Tulsa, OK learning that we begin to know."
- Henry David Thoreau
E-mail : phoenixnrg@aol.com ================================================================
Subject: Re: Production database, Canada
From: lacey@cadvision.com (Neil Dustan)
Date: 11 Nov 1996 17:46:29 GMT
In article , pho@cadvision.com says...
>
>Hi:
>
>Does anyone know if there is any on-line (internet) production or well
>database for Canadian Oil/Gas property either free of charge or on a fee
>basis. Any info will be appreciated. Please post.
>
>
>P. Ho
>
>pho@cadvision.com
Petrosoft offers a fee-based dialup service called "Pro" containing production
data for B.C., Alberta, Sask, and Man. To my knowledge, this is the only dial
up service in Calgary that doesn't look for an annual registration fee. The
people are also good to deal with.
You can reach them at (403) 269-7225.
Subject: Re: [q] oil companies in Russia
From: james@sn.no (James Huang)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:39:45 +0100
In sci.geo.petroleum, article <567bi1$5pu@lm1.oryx.com>, xdekdr@oryx.com
(kurt d reisser) wrote:
> Daaeski Choi writes:
>
> >I heard that small independant exploration and development companies
> >are successful in small projects in Russia, but major companies large
> >projects have little progress.
>
> Who out there involved in an oil project in Russia would characterize
> their project as "successful",
The situation in Russia, as far as I know, is like looking into a
mudshaker.
The regional geological and geophysical trusts own everything. The big
prospects have been handed over to consortiums made up of (mostly)
former military armaments firms and the g&g; trusts.
> and in what ways would you consider your projects a success or
> disappointing at this time.
Success: been invited to set up offices in Russia
Disaapointment: sitting in the offices and twiddling thumbs while
reading new decrees and regulations every other day.
--
James Huang http://home.sn.no/~james
Huang Consult [ G&G; Data QC - Geomodeling - Technical Support ]
R dtvetveien 67, N-0955 Oslo, Norway
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Subject: Re: Which politician do YOU think will help the industry
From: james@sn.no (James Huang)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:31:14 +0100
Hei Kurt,
Long time no see.
In sci.geo.petroleum, article <567b8l$5pu@lm1.oryx.com>, xdekdr@oryx.com
(kurt d reisser) wrote:
> James Huang suggested the creation of
>
> -- > *> s.g.p.politics
> > *> s.g.p.pump_prices
> but I think that we would more accurately create new groups:
> s.g.p.political.drivel and s.g.p.irrlelvant.blather
A rose by any name ...
> Alas, there is no political gain to be realized by standing up for the
> oil industry, Reagan didn't do it, Bush didn't do it, Clinton didn't
> and won't do it, and Dole wouldn't have done it.
But you can be sure that once there is a 70s situation, either in the
emming or in fact, all the politicos will be standing on the Capitol or
Town Hall steps and swearing their undying support for the oil industry.
> However, I must admit that as an explorationist involved in
> international exploration, Clinton has moved the U.S. State Department
> away from a "hands-off" mode to an activist mode in promoting U.S.
> business interests including oil.
Same situation here in Norway. Everytime somneone in the cabinet was out
on one of their FFM(1) trips they would be accompanied by a big
delegation from the oil industry.
> This is a very positive change from previous administrations and the
> best we are likely to get in the future.
Wish you guys all the best in ventures in the CIS et al.
(1) Frequent Flier Mileage
--
James Huang http://home.sn.no/~james
Huang Consult [ G&G; Data QC - Geomodeling - Technical Support ]
R dtvetveien 67, N-0955 Oslo, Norway
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Subject: Re: once more linguistic help needed
From: phoenixnrg@aol.com
Date: 11 Nov 1996 23:01:15 GMT
In article <563di8$s5s@tombstone.kent.edu>, kmischer@kent.kent.edu (Katja
Mischerikow) writes:
>Hi y'all
>
>once more an easy question from a layperson:
>Are IOIP and OOIP synonyms?
>If not, what exactly is the difference? (I know what the acronyms
>stand for, I am just not sure if initial and original mean absolutely
>the same in this context of petroleum reservoirs).
>
>thanks a million
>
>Katja
Katja...
As a graduate of UT (University of Toledo to you Texas, Tennessee, and
Tulsa folks), I am always happy to help out a Mid-Am conference compatriot
.
After 32 years in the business, I can think of absolutely no reason why
these two terms would ever be anything other than synonymous with regard
to petroluem reservoirs.
Bill
================================================================
William K. Leutz
Phoenix Energy Associates "It is only when we forget
all our
Tulsa, OK learning that
we begin to know."
- Henry David Thoreau
E-mail : phoenixnrg@aol.com
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