Subject: Re: Bubble sextant....
From: mjdb@dorevale.demon.co.uk (Mike Brown)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:34:59 GMT
In message Paul Ross wrote:
> Bubble sextants:
>
> I have a Royal Air Force bubble sextant brought here in a London flea
> market for 20 pounds ($30). It was in very bad shape (full of jam or
> something!) but I stripped and cleaned it over a number of weeks and it is
> now working perfectly.
>
> Opening it up I found the signature of the original assembler (I assume)
> and the date; 23rd July 1943 so it must have a bit of a history behind it.
> (1943 marked the beginning of mass bombing raids by the RAF over Germany
> by night and routine trans-atlantic flights).
I think that most authorities would put the commencement of mass raids
rather earlier, though it all depends on the definition used. On the
night of 30/31 May 1942, for example, a single coordinated raid was
mounted against Cologne by a force of 1,043 aircraft, of which 41 were
lost over German-controlled territory. Raids of 200 to 400 aircraft
had been commonplace for at least a year previously.
> Whils I was doing this I was impressed by the quality of the construction.
> Normal marine sextants are intrisicaly simple devices with a couple of
> moving parts. Precise, sure, but simple.
>
> A WWII bubble sextant is quite different. The Hughes Mark IX bubble
> sextant is a wonderful design, small, complex and inovative.
>
> It is now restored to its former glory. There is one drawback; it is not
> very accurate. After careful testing I condlude that any single sight is
> accurate to about +/- 5Nm (Nm - Nautical miles). Multiple sights can
> reduce this error to +/- 1Nm with patience.
For this reason the Mk IX series sextants all incorporate an averaging
device:
Mk IX A counter manually totals 6 separate sights, adding one
sixth of each reading to a pair of degrees and minutes
windows located on the lower right hand side of the casing.
You can see these windows, blanked from the inside, on
models as the same body metal castings were retained.
Mk IX A Manual averaging device replaced by a clockwork mechanism
adding 60 sights automatically at 2-second intervals. The
total observation period of 2 minutes corresponded to the
approximate period of the basic phugoid oscillation (and
hence of the sytematic error of the vertical defined by
the bubble) of RAF heavy bomber aircraft of the period.
Mk IX AM As the Mk IX A, but with an optional magnifying eyepiece
mounted on a swivel spider arm.
Mk IX B As the Mk IX A, but with a selectable averaging period of
one or two minutes; the shorter period being used with
smaller aircraft, such as the RAF Mosquito high-speed bomber
which had a shorter oscillation period. Also Mk IX BM.
> The main reason is the lack of magnification provided by the optics so you
> see the sun at natural size. That and the fact that the smallest bubble I
> can generate is about the same diameter of the Sun (32 minutes) means that
> it is very difficult to be precise.
You can actually generate bubbles down to pinpoint size: Holding the
sextant to your eye, tilt it about 20 degrees clockwise from the vertical.
Now rotate the bubble chamber control towards you until a bubble larger
than you require is formed. Next, holding the sextant so that the
point from which the bubble emerged is uppermost in your field of view,
rotate the bubble chamber control away from you; you will find that the
bubble is slowly drawn back into its reservoir. You stop turning the
control when the bubble has reduced to the required size. Finally, tilt
the sextant anticlockwise until it is about 20 degrees left of the vertical
and rotate the bubble chamber control all the way back as far as it will
go, completely releasing all pressure on the bubble reservoir.
Actually, though, for observing the sun it is best to have quite a large
bubble that can be visually centred inside the sun's disc. for stars
a small bubble encircling the image is best.
> These sights are taken from the roof of my London flat in near perfect
> conditions. In wartime; huddled under an astro dome in a noisy, drafty
> bomber with the threat of sudden, violent death it must have been a
> remarkable achievement to navigate with these devices to any modern degree
> of accuracy.
>
> As a trans-oceanic navigation tool it is fine but for bombing anything
> other than large cities it is inadequate.
It was only intended as an en-route navigation tool. Target-finding
was a different problem; one common technique being to navigate to
a landmark feature (such as a river) likely to be visible at night,
and then run on a calculated track (course) and distance to the target.
> As far as I can tell no radium is used in its construction. The
> illumination is provided by bulbs and a battery - I have modified it to
> take a couple of AAA cells which work fine.
Definitely no radium.
Mike Brown.
--
M J D Brown: Newhaven, Peterchurch, Herefordshire HR2 0RT, England
Subject: Re: I've decided to buy a GPS - Would you agree?
From: "Patrick D. Lukens"
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:05:22 -0800
John P. Kiljan wrote:
>
> "Patrick D. Lukens" writes:
> >> Very few places in the New World have ever been shelled--lets hope it
> >> stays that way.
> >
> >then consider that the vast majority of the "New World"
> >encompases Latin America (far too many wars to mention - in the 20th
> >century alone). Anyway, again, don't take this as a flame.... You
> just
> >caught my attention on that one... :-)
> >--Patrick
>
> Patrick,
> Good point. No I wasn't kidding; I was only considering the great
> 'modern' artillery barrages of the Great War and WWII that killed tens
> of thousands overseas and left our civilian population unaffected.
>
> Thanks for the polite response,
>
> -- John
Yes, the US population has been very lucky in that sense... As you
stated in the original, let's hope that we remain that lucky.
Excuse us everyone, I realize that we are a bit off topic... Thanks for
your patience...
--
--Patrick
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Modern Mexico, Public History | Arizona State University
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Subject: Re: sextants etc.
From: petere@mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:34:30 -0400
In article <56asdm$1k32$1@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net>, dmulcar@ibm.net wrote:
>In <56a771$s9e@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, am152@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Donald Blakley) writes:
>>(with deletions)
>>curtis cameron (curtis_cameron@hp.com) writes:
>>> In earlier posts, people here had educated me on the way latitude is
>>> measured on an ellipsoid model of the earth.
>>> But what if I'm Meriwether Lewis, with Rocky Mountains all around me?
>>> If I can't see the horizon, how do I find the normal? The phrase
>>> "bubble sextant" that I've seen here makes me think that maybe you
>>> could use a bubble, or a plumb bob, to find the gravity direction.
>>>
>>> But it doesn't seem obvious to me that a plumb bob would point
>>> the same direction as the normal. On a sphere, of course it would,
>>> but on an ellipsoid, does it? It seems to me that it might point at
>>> the center of the ellipsoid, or somewhere between that direction and
>>> the normal.
>>>
>>> And what about variations in gravity caused by nearby masses like
>>> mountains? How much error would this cause?
There are two ways to use a sextant on land. One is the bubble sextant,
which works on the same priciple as the bubble level, i. e., a level line
to the horizon is found by leveling a bubble of air immersed in liquid.
The other way is by use of the artificial horizon, which is merely a
container of liquid on a table. If you utilize this as your horizon, the
vertical angle you measure is twice the true vertical angle. As to the
type of gravity-induced error you are concerned about, it is orders of
magnitude less than the errors in the sextant itself.
--
Pete
Subject: Re: sextants etc.
From: paul@paulross.demon.co.uk (Paul Ross)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:20:03 +0000
In article <32877D37.54CB@hp.com>, curtis cameron wrote:
> In earlier posts, people here had educated me on the way latitude is
> measured on an ellipsoid model of the earth. What I learned is that
> the normal to the surface indicates latitude. This makes sense,
> because the captain on a ship at sea would have this as a
> reference. The normal can be found by bisecting the horizon-to-
> horizon angle in all directions.
>
> But what if I'm Meriwether Lewis, with Rocky Mountains all around me?
> If I can't see the horizon, how do I find the normal? The phrase
> "bubble sextant" that I've seen here makes me think that maybe you
> could use a bubble, or a plumb bob, to find the gravity direction.
The simplest way with a sextant when there is no horizon is to use a bowl
of water (or even better, oil). Measure the angle between the sun and its
reflected image in the bowl, halve it and that is the sun's altitude.
Paul Ross
UK and European waypoints for GPS and other users:
http://dragon.swansea.linux.org.uk/~paulr/
Subject: Re: What AUTOMATIC track mode mean
From: randy@agames.com (Randy Davis)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 18:38:48 GMT
In article <562c5l$39k@harpo.cs.ubc.ca>, Dave Martindale (davem@cs.ubc.ca) wrote:
|However, the "visually identical" part of the above implies that this
|computation is done for the current map scale.
Wait a minute - do you have any experience or data to back this up?
| If you have the map
|zoomed in to see very small details in the track, the GPS will save
|lots of points to accurately resolve the track. If you are zoomed
|out to see a larger area, the GPS will *not* save points to resolve
|detail that you cannot see at that scale - only to resolve what you
|can see. Then if you zoom in later, the saved track may look a bit
|coarse.
I've not seen this, but I wasn't looking for this behaviour.
How sure are you that the automatic track log bases its recorded
track points on the current scale of the track log screen????? The manual
makes no mention of this; and I would hope that they would in such an
instance.
Randy Davis
randy@agames.com
Subject: Re: help GPS:waypoint
From: bennett@erich.triumf.ca (P.Bennett)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 12:18 PST
In article <56d4h2$s5q@alf01.uib.es>, aix004@teix.uib.es writes...
>Please, I need to find some information about waypoint. What is this?..
A waypoint is simply a position stored in a GPS receiver. The receiver can
calculate and display the distance and direction to the waypoint.
Many GPS receivers can store about 250 waypoints. You can usually enter the
coordinates for a waypoint using the receiver's keyboard, or can store the
present position as a waypoint.
Peter Bennett VE7CEI | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight
Internet: bennett@triumf.ca | of one another only when one can be
Packet: ve7cei@ve7kit.#vanc.bc.ca | observed visually from the other
TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., Canada | ColRegs 3(k)
GPS and NMEA info and programs: ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/index.html
or: ftp://ftp-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/arnd/GPS/peter/index.html
or: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html
Subject: Re: Any source for coordinates in Italy?
From: Sam Rea
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:33:15 -0500
C. R. Tucker wrote:
>
> I'm planning to be driving in Italy for a couple of weeks. Anyone know
> of a source for GPS data for there?
> Thanks.
Fugawi, a Windows program, allows you to scan maps of Italy and then
have a complete moving map system for your trip. If you do not want to
take your PC, just plan your trip on the PC (Click to create a waypoint)
and then upload the waypoints to your Garmin or Lowrance/Eagle GPS.
See http://www.fugawi.com
--
Sam Rea
rea@fugawi.com
Pinpoint Systems Inc., Toronto, Canada, http://www.fugawi.com
Tel: (416) 920-0447, Fax: (416) 964-6313
Subject: Re: MapNGo Incomplete Transfer
From: robotech
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:25:29 -0600
Bob Guba wrote:
>
> mrpeters@atnet.net (MRPeters) wrote:
>
> >OK, I went for the MapNGo 2.0 to track my airplane flights. But when I try
> >to download the track I get that Transfer Incomplete message...is there any
> >work around for my Garmin 38? What causes it--I get say 29 packets sent and
> >then it locks up....??? MapNGo isn't worth it if you need to invest in a
> >laptop to get it to work with a GPS..
>
> Does your serial port have a 16550 UART? If not, that is probably the
> reason.
>
> Bob Guba "When the weather gets worse,
> Amateur Radio: W1QMN the company gets better."
> 19T 296336 4706643 WGS84
> E-Mail: rfguba@ma.ultranet.com
> Home Page: http://www.ultranet.com/~rfguba/
Explain that theory further if you will. I have not been able to get
any data to go from my Garmin38 to my PC. I can send commands like
"turn on the light and turn off the unit", but no data is ever sent to
the PC. I keep getting comm error msgs, and I have tried all ports and
all speeds. I have checked the pinouts several times too.
thanks,
robotech
Subject: Re: What AUTOMATIC track mode mean
From: davem@cs.ubc.ca (Dave Martindale)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 17:05:30 -0800
I wrote:
|However, the "visually identical" part of the above implies that this
|computation is done for the current map scale.
randy@agames.com (Randy Davis) writes:
> Wait a minute - do you have any experience or data to back this up?
This is based on my interpretation of the manual, which says "The stored
track criteria determines how often positions are stored in the track log.
The default setting is automatic, which will store track based on resolution."
As far as I can tell, the only variable "resolution" that you can set
anywhere is the map scale - which sets its ability to resolve fine detail
in the track.
> How sure are you that the automatic track log bases its recorded
>track points on the current scale of the track log screen????? The manual
>makes no mention of this; and I would hope that they would in such an
>instance.
Well, the manual is not very precise about many things, but you can see
what it says above. To do better than that, someone would have to perform
a controlled experiment, going over exactly the same route more than
once with different map scales selected.
Dave
Subject: Re: What AUTOMATIC track mode mean
From: davem@cs.ubc.ca (Dave Martindale)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 17:05:30 -0800
I wrote:
|However, the "visually identical" part of the above implies that this
|computation is done for the current map scale.
randy@agames.com (Randy Davis) writes:
> Wait a minute - do you have any experience or data to back this up?
This is based on my interpretation of the manual, which says "The stored
track criteria determines how often positions are stored in the track log.
The default setting is automatic, which will store track based on resolution."
As far as I can tell, the only variable "resolution" that you can set
anywhere is the map scale - which sets its ability to resolve fine detail
in the track.
> How sure are you that the automatic track log bases its recorded
>track points on the current scale of the track log screen????? The manual
>makes no mention of this; and I would hope that they would in such an
>instance.
Well, the manual is not very precise about many things, but you can see
what it says above. To do better than that, someone would have to perform
a controlled experiment, going over exactly the same route more than
once with different map scales selected.
Dave
Subject: Re: Delorme Tripmate GPS for SA 4.0
From: randy@agames.com (Randy Davis)
Date: 14 Nov 1996 02:52:22 GMT
In article <564ba0$2u6@news.wizvax.net>, Victor Fraenckel (victorf@wizvax.net) wrote:
|Casey McCullough (askey@erols.com) wrote:
|
|: Take a look at their web site.
|
|please post delorme's web site url
Its "http://www.delorme.com" (this was pretty easy to guess, also).
So, does anyone have any details on the Delorme Tripmate GPS? I'm going
to be buying a GPS for my folks to use in their RV (Dad's a gadget freak,
also), and was planning on the Garmin GPS II. Their primary use will be
connecting it to the PC in the motorhome and using a moving map display on
their cross country trips (they just got back from a 9-week trip to/from
north of Fairbanks Alaska), and both the newest versions of MapNGo and Street
Atlas support moving map display. [No, the driver will not be looking at
the PC - they're pretty safe].
While I'm tempted to consider the Delorme unit, I know nothing about it,
and would rather get something that has more than the sole use of having to
be mounted in the vehicle and connected to the PC.
So, does anyone have any experiences or more info than is contained on
the Delorme web page?
[I didn't come across the picture of a GPS unit mentioned by the original
poster during the approx 10 minutes I spent wading through the site. On the
page "http://www.delorme.com/products/tripmate" is a yellow-looking thing
that might be the GPS unit.]
Randy Davis
randy@agames.com
Subject: Re: Garmin 45 battery power
From: tgroo@orednet.org (Tyler Groo)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:46:19 -0800
Frank Dinger wrote:
> tyler wrote:
>> I don't know Garmins low voltage cutout but 4AA (NiMH/NiCad) x 1.25v = 5v
>> for a fresh set of batteries and 4AA (alkaline) x 1.5v = 6v for a fresh
>> set. Some equipment will think your rechargable batteries are low almost
>> as soon as you put them in...
>
> The voltage isn't all that important provided it's above the cutout level.
> The advantage of using NiMH batteries is that they can deliver power
> to the unit at a voltage above the cut-out level longer than the
> alkaline 1.5V batteries.
> My Garmin GPS40 works well below minimum voltage shown on bar indicator.
[snip]
That's a good situation for Garmin folks (not me). Magellan GPSx000 has no
segmented bar, just a low bat icon that means I'm not sure what, exactly
(30min to shutdown using alkaline AAs per the manual). Voltage requirement
listed as "four AA alkaline batteries or 10-16vDC by external power."
My Newton shows about 1 bar on the charge meter with 5v worth of nicads,
and VHF transceiver runs about half the cycle life on nicad as alkaline.
Too bad all these cells can't produce the same voltage, but that's
chemistry (physics? whatever). Too bad equipment vendors can't tell you
what their product specifications are, but that's marketing.
Happy trails.
Tyler Groo, EMT-B | Rager Emergency Services (RES)
"Don't blame them | 171500 Beaver Creek Rd., Paulina, OR 97751
for what I think." | (541) 477-3162/477-3713
BLS ambulance serving parts of Crook/Grant/Wheeler/Harney Counties
Subject: Re: My WEB page!
From: BRANDY LYNN
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:47:50 -0400
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sophmore majoring in pediatric nursing
at the University of Michigan in Ann
Arbor.
I'm originally from South Carolina,
where I was the valedictorian of my
private high school.
I've been reading all these postings
and/or spammings about the naked mile
and thought I'd put my two cents worth
in.
Of the hundreds of women who ran the
naked mile last year, very few
were freshwomen as myself. Most of the
other women I ran with were seniors who
had never run the naked mile before.
But when I came to U of M and heard
about it, I thought it was such a cool
idea :) I decided to run it all four
years!!
Yes, you heard me, I ran the naked mile
and I am proud of it!!!!!
Plus, I know I'm featured in at least
one video- well maybe featured is not
accurate, but my picture -- and it is
very revealing :)
is in that naked mile video they are
selling out on the 'net.
What would my mom say????
She'd be just as proud of me as I
am!!!!
She taught me to never be ashamed of
my body, and
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So to all you jerks out there who are
upset about the naked mile and the
people that have spammed usenet about
it-- I say
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!!!!!!
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LINE!!
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Subject: Re: My WEB page!
From: BRANDY LYNN
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:47:50 -0400
My name is Brandy Lynn Altschul. I am a
sophmore majoring in pediatric nursing
at the University of Michigan in Ann
Arbor.
I'm originally from South Carolina,
where I was the valedictorian of my
private high school.
I've been reading all these postings
and/or spammings about the naked mile
and thought I'd put my two cents worth
in.
Of the hundreds of women who ran the
naked mile last year, very few
were freshwomen as myself. Most of the
other women I ran with were seniors who
had never run the naked mile before.
But when I came to U of M and heard
about it, I thought it was such a cool
idea :) I decided to run it all four
years!!
Yes, you heard me, I ran the naked mile
and I am proud of it!!!!!
Plus, I know I'm featured in at least
one video- well maybe featured is not
accurate, but my picture -- and it is
very revealing :)
is in that naked mile video they are
selling out on the 'net.
What would my mom say????
She'd be just as proud of me as I
am!!!!
She taught me to never be ashamed of
my body, and
I'M NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So to all you jerks out there who are
upset about the naked mile and the
people that have spammed usenet about
it-- I say
KISS MY NAKED
ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!
I'M GOING TO POST THIS TO AS MANY
NEWSGROUPS AS POSSIBLE JUST TO
AGGRAVIATE YOU MISERABLE LITTLE GEEKS
WHO THINK YOU OWN THE INTERNET.
You just go ahead and tattle on me to
my ISP you gnarly LOSERS who couldn't
get a date if your life depended on
it!!!!!
By the way. I am the tall girl with the
knit hat in the video. If you like what
you see- I do part-time modeling.
E-mail me at branalts@umich.edu
SERIOUS OFFERS ONLY, PLEASE.
oh yeah, one more thing... type NAKED
MILE in yahoo---
AND FOLLOW THE LINKS
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEY, IGNORE EVERYTHING AFTER THIS
LINE!!
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Subject: Re: Skipper Electronics: are these guys for real?
From: wolfgang@wsrcc.com (Wolfgang Rupprecht)
Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:44:16 -0800
ref@bga.com (ref) writes:
>One of the biggest marine electronics selections in the world is found in
>the Skipper catalog, which you can usually buy at newstands.
This catalog just arrived in my mailbox today. The catalog reminded
me of bit of the DAK (closeout/bargain basement) catalog. The layout
was extremely "busy".
The GPS section had a couple of gems in the "All you need to know
about GPS section".
"Marine GPS units update the screen every second for current up to
date information BUT many cheaper units update the screen every 10
minutes. This slow update can prove to be very very dangerous for
boating navigation."
Note: "10 MINUTES" is what they say. I'd like to know which unit
updates its display every 10 minutes. This appears to be a cheap
"fear" tactic.
"While a patch style antenna is slightly more compact, it doesn't see
the horizon and the satellites as well as a quadrifilar antenna."
Since when are quad's better than patches near the horizon???
"In the past there were only a few satellites in orbit.
Accordingly, a multi-channel receiver was essential to acquire and
maintain data. The GPS System is now optioned at 21 satellites
with 4 spares in orbit. Accordingly the need for many channels
becomes less important. Don't be talked into a "horsepower race"."
1) If there are only 21 active SV's why do I consistently get 24 active
SV's showing up in my almanac?
2) When there were only 4 SV's in orbit one needed a 12-channel
receiver, but now that 24 SV's are active one only needs 6 or 8 ???
This doesn't make *any* sense.
"Remember that a GPS receiver is a precise timing device. If the
timing circuit is off by even a fraction of a second, you can
crash into a breakwater or worse! Choose a Technical Dealer who
has the expertise and the test equipment to test, tune and
calibrate your GPS receiver before delivery so you won't have of
gamble with its accuracy."
What? These guys are going to muck with the GPS and "calibrate" it?
What, pray tell, are they going to calibrate? How are they going to
even get the sealed cases open on many of the units?
Turning to the page for Garmin, one sees that they will tune,
calibrate, etc. the Garmin 40 and 45 for you for only $175 (or free
with purchase.)
Reading this, reminds me of the Groucho Marx line, "How much do you
get paid for not playing?". I'd pay extra to not have these folks
calibrate/break some perfectly good equipment.
I plan to stay *far* away from this outfit.
-wolfgang
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Wolfgang Rupprecht
Subject: Re: Delorme Tripmate GPS for SA 4.0
From: ke6zc@netcom.com (Stan Slonkosky)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:39:42 GMT
Randy Davis (randy@agames.com) wrote:
: So, does anyone have any experiences or more info than is contained on
: the Delorme web page?
Not much in my case. I ordered it on Monday for $125 as an upgrade to SA
3.0. The upgrade for SA 3.0 along would have been $25, so the GPS
essentially cost $100. I also ordered the 3D Navigator program for $19,
but I haven't loaded that up yet. Total cost was $144, which included 2nd
day air shipping.
: [I didn't come across the picture of a GPS unit mentioned by the original
: poster during the approx 10 minutes I spent wading through the site. On the
: page "http://www.delorme.com/products/tripmate" is a yellow-looking thing
: that might be the GPS unit.]
It's yellow all right. It's really strange that there's no power switch.
You must either pull out one of the batteries or disconnect the Berg
connector that connects the batteries to the GPS itself. The bottom part
of the shell holds the batteries in place is attached to the top half with
two screws. You can use a dime or a penny to unscrew them if you don't
have a screwdriver handy. A sticker on the bottom of the top half of the
unit says there are no user serviceable parts inside and that opening it
voids the warranty, so I didn't open it.
There is mention of an external power supply being available from
Delorme so you can run the unit from a cigarette lighter. I don't know
why there is no reference to that on the WWW pages or on the mailer I
received. Of course, one could get a a six volt supply from somewhere
else and make one's own connections.
I didn't have a chance to test it in the field yet and won't until I can
get the display on my notebook computer replaced, but the unit does
appear to work as well as I might expect inside my living room. I'm sure
that if I got a long enough serial cable that I could put the GPS unit
outside I'd get better results.
I notice that at least one error remains on SA 4.0 remains. I first
noticed it with SA 2.0 and it still hasn't been corrected and that's the
bridge across the Colorado River between the north end of Laughlin, NV,
and Bullhead City, AZ. Part of the bridge has been broken off and placed
downstream about half a mile where neither end of it connects to any other
road. A couple of errors I noticed in SA 3.0 have been corrected.
Orangethorpe Ave. in Orange County, CA, is finally one word (instead of
Orange Thorpe) and a street I used to live on south of Globe, AZ, in Six
Shooter Canyon, is now correctly shown as Winchester Dr (instead of
Winchester Rd). I think the above errors originated in the Tiger database,
because I've seen the same errors on CD's from Precision Mapping, one
other publisher whose name I can't recall and the Tiger WWW pages (though
I haven't looked there in several months to see if things have been
corrected).
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