The latest date is now 12 November!!! I reckon Christmas would be more accurate. (96 or 97) Al Moyes al@moyes.softNET.co.uk "NEVER lost, just uncertain of my position"Return to Top
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In article <327E16D8.5D71@grci.com>, Jay PurvisReturn to Topwrote: = Herb & Lee Kanner wrote: = > = > I am puzzled by the following: When my car is on cruise control, running = > in the 65mph ballpark, the Garmin 45XL shows a variation in speed of 0.8 = > mph. That is, the speed readings wander around in about that range. My = > cruise control is the "tight" variety and the speedo and odo appear as if = > pinned. [...] = = 0.8 mph is probably part SA and part receiver processing noise. If the = receiver shows zero when stationary, Garmin may have a minimum speed = cutoff function for their display. That is, if the speed is less than = the error expected from SA, the speed display is set to zero. Just curious: While I don't question for a moment that some of the relative speed variation is due to the gps, I find it hard to believe that none is due to actual speed variation of the vehicle, that cruise control can maintain speed to significantly less than 1.23% error which is what a 0.8mph variation out of 65mph works out to be. Maybe under ideal conditions--perfectly level terrain, etc. but even that is hard for me to believe. Comments, anyone? -- Best, Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby Los Alamos, NM "I'm the NRA!" crs@swcp.com www.swcp.com/~crs Life Member since 1965
In article <327E16D8.5D71@grci.com>, Jay PurvisReturn to Topwrote: = Herb & Lee Kanner wrote: = > = > I am puzzled by the following: When my car is on cruise control, running = > in the 65mph ballpark, the Garmin 45XL shows a variation in speed of 0.8 = > mph. That is, the speed readings wander around in about that range. My = > cruise control is the "tight" variety and the speedo and odo appear as if = > pinned. [...] = = 0.8 mph is probably part SA and part receiver processing noise. If the = receiver shows zero when stationary, Garmin may have a minimum speed = cutoff function for their display. That is, if the speed is less than = the error expected from SA, the speed display is set to zero. Just curious: While I don't question for a moment that some of the relative speed variation is due to the gps, I find it hard to believe that none is due to actual speed variation of the vehicle, that cruise control can maintain speed to significantly less than 1.23% error which is what a 0.8mph variation out of 65mph works out to be. Maybe under ideal conditions--perfectly level terrain, etc. but even that is hard for me to believe. Comments, anyone? -- Best, Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby Los Alamos, NM "I'm the NRA!" crs@swcp.com www.swcp.com/~crs Life Member since 1965
Saboty TalonReturn to Topwrote: >Anyone have any experience with the Eagle Accumap Sport >that uses the IMS Smartmap cartridges. Any info that can >be provided at all from a real user would be greatly >appreciated. Specific questions I am looking to have answered >include: > >1. How is its over all performance (speed and ease of operation, >display, accuracy and reliability, etc). > >2. Battery life. > >3. Capabilities when used in conjunction with PC mapping >software. > >4. Anything else of interest and experiences with this product. > > I will be purchasing a GPS in the very near future and had been >leaning towards the Garmin 40 or 45XL, but the IMS Smartmaps seems >to be a feature well worth paying for if the unit performs to >expectations. > >Saboty Talon
I was in the Canadian LeBaron, the company that first alerted me to the new not-yet-received Eagle/Magellan units, the 12 channel, UTM units in the fall catalog, and no, thy are not in yet and to sell for US$199. But they were selling off Magellan 2000's at C$229.99. Whether this was a store price or a Magellan clear-out, I don't know. So, as Wal-Mart says, watch out for falling prices. -- Don M. Bartlett: bartlett@freenet.carleton.ca or dbartlett@synapse.net see: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ae374/gpsutm for "article"Return to Top
I'm currently reviewing one of the Delorme Tripmates for Microtimes. The review will be on their web page after it's published. At first glance, the Tripmate seems to be the perfect solution for someone who wants a GPS for use where they'll only use it with their computer AND with the Delorme software. (Delorme says that it is not compatible with other software - I haven't had a chance to see if I can communicate with it with Procomm or something. They claim NMEA-0183 protocall, so I'm sure it could be hacked, if you really need to. The Delorme mapping software is pretty good, so you might not need to.) It has no readout or even an on/off switch. The only markings on it are Delorme and there are no obvious references on the internals (chips or antenna) to anyone that I recognize. It probably uses someone's OEM chipset. All control and output come through your computer via serial port. With those reservations, it appears to be a very inexpensive system $149 for hardware and software. It rapidly aquires from cold start - as well as my Magellan 4000. They claim 12-15 hr battery life (4 AA). The case appears to be well gasketted. The software gives limited, but probably adequate satellite info - number of visible satellites, ephemeris data, and number of satellites being used. From their manual: Type of Receiver: 12 channel GPS L1 C/A code cold start time to first fix: ~3 minutes at 25 C Warm start to first fix: 1 min at 25 C Weight (with batts): 9.5 oz Battery life: 15 hrs Interface: RS-232 with NMEA-0183 protocall It's hard to beat 150 bucks for hardware and software. If you don't need the receiver for hiking or other places that you won't have a computer, it's probably the one for you. Casey McCullough wrote: > > Was looking at the Delorme site and SA 4.0 when I noticed they are > selling a GPS which sits on your dashboard and plugs into the serial > port of your computer for use with Street Atlas (SA) 4.0 and their other > products which can utilize GPS. > > Does anyone know who makes this GPS for them and if it has an > active/passive antenna? At $149.00 it looks like a pretty good deal.Return to Top
Gene Fornario wrote: > [...] > From what I read in "GPS Made Easy"...two signals are sent from each > satellite, PPS and SPS with SA. So if I understand this correctly, a > PPS capable receiver can decrypt and use PPS. Does this mean the unit > ignores the SPS + SA signal? > Among other things, the PPS signal can be compared to the SPS signal to correct for atmospheric effects. The two signals use different frequencies and are effected differently. By comparing the two a better solution can be obtained. J. GilesReturn to Top
Albert Nurick wrote: > > In article <327A5076.566C@capital.ucsd.edu>, > Geoff_Graham@capital.ucsd.edu says... > > I spoke with someone at Garmin when I was trying to decide between the > > GPSMAP 175 and the 45XL. He steered me towards the 45XL for a few > > notable reasons. << Reasons snipped >> > > > > Again, this is only what I was told by a sales rep at Garmin. > > I wonder if the plentiful supply of GPS45XLs (about to be made obsolete > by the GPS2) and the tight supply of GPSMAP175 might also enter into > things? > > I may be jaded, but I don't rely on sales reps for information. > > -- > | Albert Nurick | "In case of doubt, decide in | > | albert@data.net | favor of what is correct." | > | http://www.data.net | | > | http://www.data.net/albert | - Karl Kraus | I had a chance to play with a GPSMAP175 IT'S HUGE not something you would want to carry around with you most of the time but it's a beautiful piece of equipment. I ended up buying the GPS II to replace my 45XL which I had bought a week ago. ( I lucked out a friend offered to buy it at the same time as I found the GPS II ) I was very please with the 45XL but the GPS II was love at first sight and use! It does however differ a bit from the 45XL. I did a brief description of the differences between them in a previous post of mine.Return to Top
In article <328660E5.3539@heart.net>, Dick GamageReturn to Topwrote: >Recently had my 45 on an air liner and able to lock in on 4 satellites. The compass appeard to be working. >Nothing else worked. Had heard nothing worked above 100 MPH. Is that possible? My brand new Garmin 45XL manual states that speed limit is 99.9 MPH. I hope to test it soon. Are there upgrades available to increase the speed? I enjoyed a DC10 flight with GPS track/speed/altitude/color map on screen, would like it if the Garmin 45xl could work at that speed. Steve Jacobson Linotype-Hell My views are not theirs, so blame accordingly... http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m081/jacob055/
In articleReturn to Top, jacob055@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Jacobson) writes... >My brand new Garmin 45XL manual states that speed limit is 99.9 MPH. I >hope to test it soon. > >Are there upgrades available to increase the speed? I enjoyed a DC10 >flight with GPS track/speed/altitude/color map on screen, would like it if >the Garmin 45xl could work at that speed. All of Garmin's non-aviation handheld and marine receivers have this speed limit. It is a marketing plan to force aviators to buy the more expensive aviation models that include an air navigation database. Peter Bennett VE7CEI | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight Internet: bennett@triumf.ca | of one another only when one can be Packet: ve7cei@ve7kit.#vanc.bc.ca | observed visually from the other TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., Canada | ColRegs 3(k) GPS and NMEA info and programs: ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/index.html or: ftp://ftp-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/arnd/GPS/peter/index.html or: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html
RedDragon(RDragon) wrote: > > Hi! > > I just recieved my literature on the GPS II & the GPS45XL and I was > pondering some thoughts. I noticed that the GPS II Has a Green > backround, blue foreground, and the 45XL has a white backround, black > foreground and is very clear. Does the GPS II 's green tint make it hard > to read ? In other words, is the GPS II as easy to read as the 45XL?? It > seems like on the picture for the 45XL is very crystal clear, and on the > GP II you can't make it out very good. Does Garmin have the green > backround on the other older models as well?? > > -- Mike The display on the GPS-II is like the GPS38 Display althought in my opinion the 45XL's black on white is slightly better the GPS-II's is fine. I just sold my 45XL and bought the GPS-II.Return to Top
cougercat@prostar.com (Cougercat) writes: >A suitable ground plane is also needed for optimun performance. The Trimble literature says that the antenna is designed to work well either with or without a ground plane. DaveReturn to Top
In article <5646ee$7oc@harpo.cs.ubc.ca>, davem@cs.ubc.ca (Dave Martindale) writes... >bennett@erich.triumf.ca (P.Bennett) writes: >>When last I looked (a couple of weeks ago) Garmin's new web site >>(http://www.garmin.com/) was "under construction" with a proposed completion >>date of Nov 7 (today!) (I haven't looked today to see if it is up yet...) > >It's now in the early hours of the 11th, and the web page says "try after >the 12th". So the deadline is a moving target. Typical vapourware... but at least Garmin is updating the proposed date - Eagle has a page that says it will be ready in August '96... (http://www.eaglegps.com) Peter Bennett VE7CEI | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight Internet: bennett@triumf.ca | of one another only when one can be Packet: ve7cei@ve7kit.#vanc.bc.ca | observed visually from the other TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., Canada | ColRegs 3(k) GPS and NMEA info and programs: ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/index.html or: ftp://ftp-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/arnd/GPS/peter/index.html or: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.htmlReturn to Top
Robert S. White wrote: > > Sorry I beg to disagree with your semantics. I consider individual message > definitions (Message ID and data words) not to be part of the protocol, > just users of the protocol. The original ICD-GPS-204 tried to define all of > the messages, but never could, due to software testing needs. Later versions > like ICD-GPS-150 just define a very small generic set of messages. The PLGR > and GNP-10 ICDs define a lot of product unique messages. > > I'll have to check if ICD-GPS-153 tries to define all of the standard > PLGR messages. > Ok, I see your point, and I think you're right, the protocol doesn't need to define the data in the messages. However, it does include the INTER-RCVR interaction, right? I mean the definition of all of the flag word bits, and the definition of how messages are used, ie: INTER sends CONNECT, RCVR sends ACK, RCVR sends ACCEPT, INTER sends ACK, RCVR sends messages. -- Jeff jvaline@isle.net http://www.isle.net/~jvalineReturn to Top
I would like to ask anybody how to use the track back feature in Garmin? I tried this before, but it did not give me that succesful results. When using trackback , one clears the track log before one starts the trip, when one reaches the destination, track back is pressed, which will trace back the route going backward. I notice the arrow points backward too. Is that right?- when going back? When one uses the track back feature, it seems that all my waypoints in my route is gone. Is that what is suppose to happen? I only assigns T001, T002 etc. Am I right? Isn't trackback similiar to "Invert"? Except track back uses random assigned points, but invert uses marked waypoints? Does one ever invert a track back? If one uses a route of the waypoints in your Garmin, when one initilizes it and press the page until one gets the hwy. steering guidance page, would that page automatically show the arrow pointing to the nearest waypoint ? Or does one have to press, "GOTO"? And in regards to the alarm as to when one is approching a waypoint on a route. After one reaches that waypoint, does it go to the next nearest waypoint or does it go to the next waypoint that you have listed on the route? I notice that on a cloudy day, it seems I could get a better reception receiving more satellites with my Garmin 45 XL. Is this true or just a coincidence? Thanks. Pat Chung CCCC CCCC C C C C CC C CCCC # My last name "CHUNG" means # TTYL C C C CCCC C C C C C C CCC # clock in Cantonese as in # CCCC C C C C C C CC C C # "Gey Deem Chung?" # JOY C * CCCC C C CCCC C C CCCC # Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada # KINGReturn to Top
James Giles wrote: > > Gene Fornario wrote: > > [...] > > From what I read in "GPS Made Easy"...two signals are sent from each > > satellite, PPS and SPS with SA. So if I understand this correctly, a > > PPS capable receiver can decrypt and use PPS. Does this mean the unit > > ignores the SPS + SA signal? > > > > Among other things, the PPS signal can be compared to the SPS signal > to correct for atmospheric effects. The two signals use different > frequencies and are effected differently. By comparing the two a > better solution can be obtained. > > J. Giles Actually, there are two different carrier frequencies (L1 and L2). L1 carries both C/A code (SPS, with SA) _and_ P code (PPS, without SA, sometimes encrypted). L2 carries only P code. A "civilian" receiver, without the P code decryption key, can still use the phase of the L1 and L2 carrier to calculate ionospheric dispersion and so correct for ionospheric aberrations. To do this, they have to use one of several standard techniques to remove the P code from the L2 carrier. The difficulty is that, without the synchronisation given by the P code itself, there can be ambiguity about exactly which cycle of L2 carrier is being seen (the pseudorange is determined to a fraction of a cycle, but the whole number of cycles is not known). Carrier phase is not used in standard hand-held GPS receivers, but more expensive ones used for surveying (e.g. Ashtech) do use it. -- +--------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ | Frank Burgum, Navigation & Sensors Section | tel: +44 1703 316440 | | Philips Semiconductors Systems Laboratory | fax: +44 1703 316304 | | Southampton, U.K | SERI: burgum@ukpsshp1 | | Email: Frank.Burgum@soton.sc.philips.com | | +--------------------------------------------+-------------------------+Return to Top
>Can anyone tell me it will import acsii data from a packet radio tnc? It might if the SA4 parsing program will over look the first part of the data and scan for $PGxxx The following two lines came out of a TNC, You can see the two NMEA RNC and GGA lines are the same as the Garmin NMEA output. WIDE lines to follow: KC5EJK-12*>RELAY>RELAY>APRS:$GPGGA,202522,3250.760,N,09646.185,W,1,03,2.9,153.0,M,-24.8,M,,*7D KC5EJK-12*>RELAY>WIDE>APRS:$GPRMC,202521,A,3250.760,N,09646.185,W,002.5,101.1,101196,,*05 Bob kc5ejk@onramp.netReturn to Top
Only being familiar with my own Garmin 75, I am wondering if any of the newer units are able to "read" the coordinates of points on a recorded track. I would like to record a track while following a bush road in the vehicle and later, record the coordinates of the turns in the road so that it could be manually plotted to a topo map. In reading of persons using the "blob" method of getting the best accuracy at a stationary position, after permitting the track to record for some time, it was suggested that the "+" on the plot screen could be scrolled to the apparent center of the blob and the coordinates then noted. (The Garmin 75 does not permit this and I must wait until the blob centers itself over my center screen "+" before taking a fix.) Do the Garmin 38, 45's and II allow this? What about the Eagles? -- Don M. Bartlett: bartlett@freenet.carleton.ca or dbartlett@synapse.net see: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ae374/gpsutm for "article"Return to Top
In article <55ssc1$8iq@wolfe.wimsey.com>, mfraser@giant.mindlink.bc.ca says... > >A box made by HIGHWAYMASTER came into my hands, inside it has a cellphone >and some logic boards, and a Moto GPS board. This has an 8-pin header >that presumably handles power and I/O [It also has an SMA or similar >connector, but let's assume that goes to the antenna!] > >Anyone help me with pinout? The board has a 68331 processor on it >[more than a little bit of processing power, no?] and the part number >on the pcb appears to be 84D43796MO1, is about 2x3.5 inches, and >the header is 10 PINS, not 8 as I said above.... > >any help greatly appreciated > >/mark You have one of the newer Oncore boards, probably the VP (very latest are GT/UT). They are a particularly powerful 8 channel (early ones were 6, but not made anymore) receiver working on Motorola binary (9600,8,N,1), NMEA (4800,8,N,1), and LORAN emulation (1200,8,N,1) mode. All models feature differential capability (Moto binary & RTCM SC-104 type 1 messages). Get the Motorola GPS Control Program, Version 9.0 or later (5.3 only handled 6 channels). 49 Datums, 51 Moto bin commands, 8 NMEA, 4 LORAN Oncore Users Guide, pn 68P41117U01 May 94 or later covers the VP, with all tech details. The antenna jack is an OSX (M/A COM), PCX (Phoenix) or MCX (Huber&Suhner;) connector. 5V @ MAX 50mA available to active antenna. The 10 pin header requires TTL and 5V. You may have a Li backup battery, otherwise you need 2.5V - 5.25VDC for backup as well. Pin out is 1 2 3 4 - - 9 10 where pin 1 has the square pad Pin 1 Battery backup (No Lithium battery on board) 2 +5V pwr (225mA [1.1W] + antenna) 3 GND 4 N/A (Vpp) 5 N/A 6 ONE PPS (TTL) Option A 7 ONE PPS RTN 8 TTL-TXD 9 TTL-RXD 10 TTL-RTN A MAX232 and a 5V regulator will get you going. Max ripple is 50mV. More help? Try your local Moto Systems and After Markets person. I make an interface in an aluminium case that emulates the Oncore XT, provides 12V (8 - 16V) input, RS-232 I/O and a BNC jack. JDW S32, E116Return to Top
Hi, I would like to ask if NMEA uses any media access protocol? For instance, if there are 2 NMEA talkers sharing the same Tx line, will one wait the other and avoid collisions like in Ethernet LAN's (CSMA/CD protocol) ? Thanks in advance, MauricioReturn to Top
Hi, I would like to link my Garmin45 to my notebook which runs a nav program. It uses NMEA output from Garmin to figure out where I am. I also would like to have my nav program to control my autopilot (AUTOHELM 7000). The question is: I only have 1 serial port. Garmin sends strings to the PC. The PC should send strings to the autopilot. Is there a cable to link the autopilot to a PC ? Is it possible using the same port? Thanks in advance, MauricioReturn to Top
Don Bartlett wrote: > > Only being familiar with my own Garmin 75, I am wondering > if any of the newer units are able to "read" the coordinates > of points on a recorded track. > > I would like to record a track while following a bush road in > the vehicle and later, record the coordinates of the turns in > the road so that it could be manually plotted to a topo map. > > In reading of persons using the "blob" method of getting the > best accuracy at a stationary position, after permitting the > track to record for some time, it was suggested that the "+" > on the plot screen could be scrolled to the apparent center of > the blob and the coordinates then noted. (The Garmin 75 does > not permit this and I must wait until the blob centers itself > over my center screen "+" before taking a fix.) > > Do the Garmin 38, 45's and II allow this? What about the Eagles? If I remember correctly, you can do this on the 45 by entering the "Pan" mode. There, you can scroll the "blob" under the "+" (which always stays at the center). Finally, you can enter a waypoint at the "+" by pressing the "Mark" key. Isn't there a similar function on the 75 ? Jean-LouisReturn to Top
Hello all, I have just recently started learning about GPS, and the internet is a great source. One question that I have is on the relative accuracy of the GPS concept. From what I have read, you can get positional accuracy down in the cenimeter type range. Since the satelites are miles (thousands of miles?) above the Earth, it would seem that wour are getting accuarcy of 1 in 1000000. What I was wondering is, if you have "local" satelites, meaning on the earth, in a lab, could you resolve position down to .001" or finer, or is there some limit on how the entire system works? I appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks Again, Mike NiemotkaReturn to Top
======================================= CORS Electronic Newsletter ======================================= Authors: Bill Strange, Neil Weston National Geodetic Survey, NOS, NOAA Silver Spring, MD 20910 E-mail: bstrange@ngs.noaa.gov nweston@ngs.noaa.gov Info: jimd@ngs.noaa.gov don@ngs.noaa.gov Phone: (301) 713-3222 ext. 135 Lab: (301) 713-3169 ext. 146 Fax: (301) 713-4175 Subject: Current CORS Data Holdings. Date: Sun Nov 10 22:45:02 EST 1996 Week: 45 GPS Week: 0878 Range: Day 308 to Day 314 To Access: ftp cors.ngs.noaa.gov login: anonymous password: your complete e-mail address Message: The Continuously Operating Reference Station (CORS) GPS network managed by the National Geodetic Survey (NGS), NOAA, is operating in an experimental mode and will continue to do so until the network is declared fully operational in 1996. Full CORS integrity monitoring has not been implemented by NGS at this time. NGS will do its best to ensure the reliability of this service in the interim but, because of this status, users of the CORS data should be aware that NGS cannot ensure: 1. That all current sites will be operational at all times or will be kept as part of the final network configuration; 2. That all GPS data, positional information, utility software, or ancillary information which has been posted is 100 percent correct and without error; and 3. That any additional proposed sites that are added in the future will remain operational or will be kept as part of the network. ========================================================================= October 29 The Department of Transportation (DOT) has been designated by the President to represent the Nation's civilian interests in the use of the Global Positioning System (GPS). DOT has begun studies to determine the interest in and feasibility of extending the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Differential Global Positioning System (DGPS). James Arnold, of the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), is coordinating the studies and will present the results to the DOT Position/Navigation Committee. Designed to support maritime safety and navigation on the Nation's coasts and navigable waterways, the coastal portion of DGPS is almost complete and the river portion is being expanded. Like many technological developments, the project benefits more than its original audience. Surveyors, the land transportation industry, geo-scientists, and meteorologists, among others, are taking advantage of the broadcast DGPS signals over inland areas, or they are using GPS data captured by NOAA's National Geodetic Survey from the DGPS receivers for the Continuously Operating Reference Station (CORS) network to perform high accuracy positioning. In its initial phase, the DGPS network has received praise for meeting deadlines, economy of installation, and benefit to the Nation's maritime safety. However, because of its maritime design, the DGPS network does not reach large areas of the coterminous 48 states and Alaska. Federal agencies including FHWA, USCG, NOAA, and the Federal Railway Administration have received inquiries about possible expansion of the DGPS network. In response to these requests, DOT tasked FWHA with making the necessary studies. An initial estimate is that about 20 additional sites could complete coverage of the 48 states. Mr. Arnold would significantly benefit from knowing the interests of state, county, and municipal agencies, academia, and private industry in the potential DGPS expansion and improvement of safety in highway, railway, and other land based industries. Mr. Arnold can be contacted at: Department of Transportation Federal Highway Administration 703-285-2974 (voice) 703-285-2264 (fax) jaarnold@intergate.dot.gov ========================================================================= October 18 Station Richmond (rcm5) was permanently shut down on October 10, 1996 (day 284) and will no longer be included in the weekly newsletter. MON. DAY NUMBER SITE_NAME NAME RECEIVER 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 ================ ==== ============== === === === === === === === Amarillo TX aml5 Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Annette_Isl AK ais1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *72 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Aransas_Pass TX arp3 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Arlington TX arl5 Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Austin TX aus5 Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Beaumont TX bea5 Trimble SSE D 2 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Blythe CA blyt Ashtech Z_XII3 D 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Brunswick ME bru1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 CpCanaveral FL ccv1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 CpHenlopen DE chl1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 CpHenry VA chr1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 CpHinchinbrook AK chi2 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 CpMendocino CA cme1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *69 *75 *75 *75 Charleston SC cha1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *72 *75 *75 *75 *75 Chatham MA cht1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Cheboygan MI chb1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Cold_Bay AK bay1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 CorpusChristi TX corc Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Detroit MI det1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Egmont_Key FL eky1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 El_Paso TX paso Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 0 English_Turn LA eng1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Fairbanks AK fair Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 2 % 3 % 2 % 3 % 3 FT_Macon NC fmc2 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 FT_Stevens OR fts1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Gaithersburg MD gait Trimble SSE #72 #72 #72 #72 #72 #72 #72 Galveston TX gal1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Goldstone CA gold Rogue SNR_8 % 3 % 3 % 2 % 3 0 % 3 % 3 Gustavus AK gus1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Haskell OK hklo Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Haviland KS hvlk Trimble SSI & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Hillsboro KS hbrk Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Houston TX hous Trimble SSE % 3 D 2 % 3 % 3 D 2 % 3 0 KansasCity KS kan1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Kenai AK ken1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Kodiak AK kod1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Kokole_PT HI kok1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Lake_Houston TX lkhu Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 Lamont OK lmno Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Lubbock TX lubb Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 0 McDonald TX mdo1 Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 Miami FL mia1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *72 *75 *75 *75 *75 Milwaukee WI mil1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Memphis TN mem2 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Mobile_PT AL mob1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Montauk_PT NY mnp1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Montpelier VT vcap Trimble SSE #72 #72 #72 #72 #72 #72 #70 Neebish_Isl MI neb3 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Neodesha KS ndsk Trimble SSI & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 North_Liberty IA nlib Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 2 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 Odessa TX ods5 Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 0 Pietown NM pie1 Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 2 % 3 N 1 % 3 % 3 Pigeon_PT CA ppt1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *63 0 *75 *75 *75 *75 Platteville CO pltc Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 M 1 0 0 PT_Blunt CA pbl1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 PT_Loma CA plo3 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Portsmouth NH por2 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Purcell OK prco Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Quincy CA quin Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 2 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 Robinson_PT WA rpt1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 ST_Croix VI cro1 Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 ST_Louis MO stl3 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 ST_Paul WI stp1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *72 *72 *75 Saginaw_Bay MI sag1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Sallisaw OK sal1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 San_Antonio TX anto Trimble SSE % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Sandy_Hook NJ shk1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *72 *75 *75 Sturgeon_Bay WI stb1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Table_Mt CO tmgo Rogue 8000 & 4 & 4 & 4 & 4 & 4 0 0 Upolo_PT HI upo1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *72 *63 *12 *75 *75 *75 Upper_Kewenaw MI kew1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Vicksburg MS vic1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Vici OK vcio Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Westford MA wes2 Rogue 8000 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 % 3 0 Whidbey_Isl WA whd1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Whitefish_PT MI whp1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *18 0 White_Sands NM wsmn Trimble SSE & 4 & 4 & 3 & 3 & 3 % 2 0 Wisconsin_PT WI wis1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 Youngstown NY you1 Ashtech Z_XII3 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 *75 The letters/symbols refer to the types of files available for that particular day. H Observation (hourly) # Observation (hourly), Navigation $ Observation (hourly), Navigation, Meteorological N Navigation S Navigation, Meteorological M Meteorological D Observation (daily) % Observation (daily), Navigation & Observation (daily), Navigation, Meteorological + Observation (daily), Meteorological B Observation (daily, hourly) * Observation (daily, hourly), Navigation A Observation (daily, hourly), Navigation, Meteorological Y Observation (daily, hourly), Meteorological |====================================================| |== Donald M. Mulcare email:dmulcar@ibm.net ==| |== NGS Advisor to Maryland 410.545.8963 (voice) ==| |====visit the ngs home page at http://www.ngs.noaa.gov =====| |====================================================|Return to Top
I've just purchased a Eagle View and I'm very happy with it, but on the cover of the user manual it shows a plotter screen with boxes with DTG, SOG and COG on the left and the current postion across the bottom of the screen, can anyone tell me how to set up the Eagle View to show that screen ? -- -------------------------------------------- garin@tempest.com.au What do you mean... You DON'T dive ?? --------------------------------------------Return to Top
Dear Readers: Last week, we posted the following ads which included a wrong web address. The correct address is http://www.io.org/~nac/ Many people ask what the system requirements of the software are. Since we use dynamic linking libraries all through the code, the software requires little RAM and hard disk space. If the computer has: Windows 95 or Windows NT Larger than 4 MB RAM Larger than 4 MB Hard disk space the software will work properly on small map files (<1 MB). Now the test version of the software is ready for everybody to test all functions of the software. If you want it, I can email you the software (2.4 MB)free of charge. If you want to get 3.5" floppy disk, please include US$5 shipping and handling fee.ÿï Once you have tested the software, please send us your comments and suggestions and report all the problems. You cam also post them on the net. By the way, the software can import text files of lists of longitude/latitude or UTM or other coordinates and character strings with coordinates and angles. If you have these kinds of maps and would like to sell them, please drop an email to our account and we will include them on our web. If you have map converters which can extract map entities from other GIS file formats and create node lists and character string lists, we will be happy to list them on our web too. Have fun to play on NACGIS Version 2.0. Xinhang Shen NAC Geographic Products Inc. =============================================================================== | | | Great News! | | | | You can buy a US$999 GIS with only US$39 before Nov. 20, 1996! | | | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Contents | | | | Introduction | | Major features | | Discount information | | Order information | =============================================================================== Introduction NAC Geographic Products Inc. has developed a geographic information system called NACGIS Version 2.0 for Windows 95 and Windows NT, which has implemented the great invention: the Natural Area Coding System. Based on the Natural Area Coding System, NACGIS has introduced a ten-character Universal Geographic Identity for every geographic object in the world. No matter what size it is. Every geographic object in the world from a continent to a parking meter can be statistically uniquely identified by its Universal Geographic Identity (UGID). Major features: 1. Automatic assignment of UGID's to all geographic objects. 2. Automatic links between a graphic object in the map file and its associated document in the document database. You can use both text searching and mouse clicking on the graphic object to retrieve the document for reading and editing. 3 Supports transparency which allows you draw transparent graphic objects with all pictures underneath shown in a mixed color. 4. Graphics editor's features: a) Drawing tools: NACGIS Version 2.0 procides two sets of drawing tools: i) Mouse direct drafting on the screen with your specified default line color, line type, line thickness, brush color, brush pattern, font type, font size, font color, layer number, etc. ii) Graphic object set-up dialog boxes to create accurate pictures. The dialog boxs allow you input exact coordinates for polyline nodes and polygon vertices and layer number, text escapement angle, layer number, specify whether it is a polyline or smooth curve and a polygon or an area, whether it is transparent, and set up pen, brush and font parameters. You can insert or delete nodes or vertices at any location of a polyline or a polygon. A polyline, polygon, simple picture or a group picture can be converted to each other by simply clicking a botton on the dialog boxes. NACGIS Version 2.0 can draw polylines, curves, polygons, areas, simple pictures (ractangle, circle, ellipse, regular polygons, stars, etc.), text objects, bitmap objects and group pictures (from an art gallery database). b) Manipulation tools: NACGIS Version 2.0 provides the following graphic objects manipulation tools: i) Mouse and arrow keys direct draging and resizing ii) Manipulation dialog box which allows you move an graphic object or a group of graphic objects a specified distance or to a specified location, exactly stretch it in x- and/or y-directions, rotate it a specified angle arround a specified pivot, and mirror it in x- and/or y-directions with a specified symetric center. iii) Alignment dialog box which allows you align a group of graphic objects to the left, center, right, top, middle, bottom. iv) Group objects tool which allows you to create group pictures (only one set of a group picture's data will be stored in the memory but can be shown in as many places as you want, which will greatly simplify your drawing and save memory). Once the group picture is created, you can also add it to the art gallery database of the software for later use. v) Delete, Erase All, Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste tools vi) Grid generator which can automatically generate the appropriate level of the NAC grids. 5. Map viewing tools NACGIS Version 2.0 provides the following map viewing tools: i) Theme layers dialog box allows you select the visible layers for the current map. It can store 120 different theme layers. ii) Zoom In and Zoom Out tools allows you zoom in as many time as you want and zoom back to the origanal picture. iii) Split panes of a winow, multiple windows of a document and multiple windows of multiple documents. NACGIS Version 2.0 allows you to view different parts of a map in different panes or windows, view different scales in different panes, and compare different maps in different windows. iv) Display of the cursor's coordinates in Longitude/Latitude, UTM and NAC simultaneously on the status bar of the frame window. v) Coordinate systems NACGIS Version 2.0 supports three types of coordinate systems: Longitude/Latitude system, UTM system and user-defined system. You can import a map file in one coordinate system and export it in another system (Longitude/Latitude <=> UTM). vi) Window setting You can set the scroll window size, window background color, the coordinates of the top left corner of the window and suitable scale to create the best view for the map. 6. Document editor's features NACGIS Version 2.0 also provides a powerful document editor which allows you to read and edit the attached document of a graphic object. The attached document is named by the UGID of a geographic object, which can cantain text contents with all kinds of fonts, font styles, sizes and colors, bitmaps, and all other objects created by OLE servers such as Excel Charts and Worksheets. 7. Help file NACGIS Version 2.0 provides a powerful help system which has the following features: i) Context help Whenever you need help for a dialog or a menu command, you can get the help topic immediately by pressing F1. You can also press the button with an arrow and a question mark on the toolbar and the move the cursor to the item about which you need help and click the left button of the mouse to get the help topic. ii) Tooltips NACGIS Version 2.0 provides tooltips for all menu commands and buttons. When you move the cursor to a toolbar button, you will see a yellow box with simple help text beside the cursor and a bit more detail help text on the status bar of the frame window. iii) Topics, index and word search NACGIS Version 2.0 allows you to search help content by topics, index and simply a word. 8. Print, print preview and printer set-up NACGIS Version 2.0 provides you all the useful features for print, print preview and printer set-up. It allows you print black/while or color map, and a large map into small pieces which can be connected together to get a large map. You can also print any part of a map if you set the window size, the coordinates of the top left corner of the window and the appropriate scale of the map. 9. Support of file types NACGIS Version 2.0 mainly support its own map document files with the extension ".nac". However, it can import and export three types of text files: lists of polyline nodes coordinates, lists of polygon vertices coordinates and lists of text objects (text contents, insert point coordinates and escapement angle). In the future vertions, we will add dxf files. NAC Geographic Products Inc. also provides you various map documents at good prices. Discount information NAC Geographic Products Inc. would like to offer you a special discounted price for the license of using NACGIS Version 2.0. The standard price for the license for a single person using NACGIS Version 2.0 in one computer is US$999. If you are using the software at home for non-business purposes, you can get 50% discount. Once you have bought one license of the software, you will get a 80% discount for the license for a future version of the same sfotware. There is a special discount price now. If you buy the license before November 20, 1996, you need to pay only US$39 + US$5 shipping fee ( + 7% GST if in you are in Canada). After then, the price will rise everyday (about US$5.3 a day) until it reaches US$999. Ordering information You can order the license by sending us the international money order (or a check if you are in Canada) or tell us the information of the VISA credit card (Credit card number, holder's name, expiration date and issuing bank name). The price is determined by the date you send out your order. If you use credit card, you can also order it through Email, fax or phone. Please include the exact name, company, address, phone, fax, email for each licesee because the name and address will be embedded into the software. Our address is NAC Geographic Products Inc. 509-50 Stephanie Street Toronto, ON M5T 1B3 Canada NAC: 8CHK Q87P Phone and fax: (416) 979 9306 Email: nac@io.org Web: http://www.io.org If you are doing land planning, NACGIS will be your great assistant! If you are working on transportation, NACGIS will be your first assistant! If you are managing natural resources, NACGIS will provide you the convenience! If you are working on environment protection, NACGIS will be your power tool! If you are doing marketing, NACGIS will give you extra hands, eyes and ears! If you are managing real estate, NACGIS will let you get rid of tedious work! If you like fishing, NACGIS will help you record the best fishing spots! If you are a bird watcher, NACGIS will tell you where birds live and move!Return to Top
Sorry for the repeat, but I did not get any useful answers yet.... Hasn't anyone hacked this unit then? Can't believe it! Dear experts in homebrew contraptions, I came across a Silva XL-1000 GPS unit, combined with the Yeoman Navimap plotter (thanks to Janssen Buitensport for letting me test it for a week). After struggling through the not so clear manual (I hope it is just the poor translation (Dutch), but since Silva is Swedish(?), I might have to learn a new language to get to the source), I somehow really like the system. Actually, the Navimap system does better than expected, I thought you always had to calibrate a chart with two given waypoints, but one waypoint (current location, located on the map), a North/South alignment and map scale also do the trick. Yet my single largest problem with the GPS unit is that I can't find any connector (nor mentioning in the manual) for an auxillary/external antenna. My main use will be within a vehicle, and putting the unit against the window doesn't do the trick. Knowing from the past that several of you are happy homebrew engineers, with no respect for any existing system limit, I wanted to find out whether any of you has hacked the XL-1000 and attached an external antenna to it. A general opinion on such a hack will also be largely appreciated. If I can find the internal antenna wiring, does that mean I almost have the solution? Or are electrical problems & incompatibilities very likely? I know the antenna needs a separate energy supply, but the signal is pretty much standardized, right? Any chance of succeeding in upgrading the XL-1000 to a genuine vehicle GPS? Many thanks in advance to all homebrew experts out here! -- Bye, _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ illem _/ _/ an _/ _/ _/ arkerink _/_/_/ The desire to understand is sometimes far less intelligent than the inability to understandReturn to Top[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
cougercat@prostar.com (Cougercat) wrote: >A suitable ground plane is also needed for optimun performance. Sorry, but this is not correct. The specs for this antenna say that a ground plane is needed. There *may* some very minor increase in performance with a ground plane, such as the roof of a car, but in my experience it is not measurable using the signal strength bars on the GPS unit.Return to Top
In article <55l6v4$973@emerald.crystal.com.au> John Walker, walkerj@emerald.crystal.com.au writes: >Your average poition can be found with standard stats method a la Excel, >Lotus123 Works etc and try some Standard deviation of mean, but observe the >laws of good stats to do it. One sigma will give 68% confidence, 2 sigma at >95% and 3 sigma to 99%. That means, for example you get 1m SDEV from 10 or so >obs, then you would say your accuracy was sub metre at 68% confidence (32% ob >obs would be worse than 1m), but you could expect 95% (9 readings) within 2m. All true if you are considering easterly error or northerly error separately but I think the real question is "What is the probability that I am within 1 meter of the true position". In this case the error is the square root of the sum of the squares and is Rayleigh distributed. Confidence intervals for the cumulative Rayleigh distribution must be used. This is not difficult to do unless the two error components are correlated and/or have different standard deviations in which case you have a messier (the error distribution isn't Rayleigh any more) but tractable problem i.e. that of CEP (circular error probable) which gives the diameter of the circle in which x percent of the locations are to be found. AJ ajdel@mindspring.comReturn to Top
In articleReturn to TopHerb & Lee Kanner, kanner@ix.netcom.com writes: >I assumed that the variation in speed indication was due to "selective >availability." But, if that were the cause, the effect should also show up >at 0 mph. When I am motionless, the unit shows zero and stays at zero. Keep watching. You will find speeds of up to several (I just saw 9 while tracking 5 satelites) km/hr displayed while the unit is stationary. As in all C/A applications, the major error source is SA but the others (receiver noise, multipath, local clock instability, ephemeris error, GDOP ....) contribute as well. Of these multipath is probably the largest contributor. AJ ajdel@mindspring.com
Steve J. KanavosReturn to Topwrote: > My Garmin GPS-II just arrived today. What a nice unit. It seems that Garmin is shipping units across the pond before selling any in the states? Has anyone in the US been able to get a GPS-II yet? If so, where did you get it? I've checked the stores online and the local marine dealers and the story is either "real soon now" or late December. Thanks, Daniel Butler dbutler@yup.com
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Gene Fornario wrote: > From what I read in "GPS Made Easy"...two signals are sent from each > satellite, PPS and SPS with SA. So if I understand this correctly, a > PPS capable receiver can decrypt and use PPS. Does this mean the unit > ignores the SPS + SA signal? A PPS-capable receiver, *when loaded with cryptokeys and algorithms*, is not affected by SA; it knows how to cancel SA. This loading is done at a classified US government facility, with tamper-proof modules, etc. You can buy a PPS-capable receiver, but unless you can convince the US government that you deserve to have your receiver loaded, you just have a very expensive SPS receiver. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.Return to Top
On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, James Giles wrote: > Among other things, the PPS signal can be compared to the SPS signal > to correct for atmospheric effects. The two signals use different > frequencies and are effected differently. By comparing the two a > better solution can be obtained. This is only half right. PPS and SPS refer to levels of service ("precise", for authorized users only; and "standard", for everyone else). SPS users have access only to the C/A code signal, and can not cancel SA (selective availability). C/A code is only carried on the L1 frequency, so you can't do direct ionospheric measurements; you have to use a model. PPS users can cancel SA, and can also cancel AS (anti-spoofing) so they have access to the P code signal. P code is carried on both the L1 and L2 frequencies. Clever people have worked out techniques for doing ionospheric measurements on L1 vs L2 even without being able to track P code. The result is not as accurate as tracking P code, but better than the model. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.Return to Top
>cougercat@prostar.com (Cougercat) writes: > Hello Alberto; > If it is the one that I just picked up from Pac Com in Florida for $65.00 > us, it has a SMB connector on it. I personnally have not tried it yet > however a friend of mine tried it on his G75 and the signals increased by > several s units. > A suitable ground plane is also needed for optimun performance. > QST a few months ago ran an article for a passive GPS antenna. > -Jeff ============ Yes indeed,the article on a homebrew pad antenna to be fitted on top of a car can be found in QST October 1995 ,page 44-45.It is written by Harold Ward ,W1GE . For many GPS receivers an amplifier has to be added. I believe one of the low cost MAR type SHF ICs would do the job nicely. They operate well on 5V which is (usually) supplied by the GPS receiver ,via the external antenna cable. Frank Dinger , Inver by Tain , Ross-shire IV20 1RX - Scotland UK e-mail : frank.dinger@zetnet.co.uk or gm0csz.kn6wh@ukrs.org Packet : GM0CSZ @ GB7NOS.#76.GBR.EUReturn to Top
NMEA specifically is designed so that there can only be one "talker" on the line. There are devices out there that multiplex many talkers and put out there signals on one NMEA line. This line can then be fed into all of your devices. DTC21Return to Topwrote: >Hi, > >I would like to ask if NMEA uses any media access protocol? >For instance, if there are 2 NMEA talkers sharing the same Tx line, will one wait the other >and avoid collisions like in Ethernet LAN's (CSMA/CD protocol) ? >Thanks in advance, > >Mauricio > > > > > > Richard A. Ortt, Jr. | rortt@mgs.dnr.md.gov 2300 St. Paul Street | rortt@clark.net Baltimore, MD 21218 | http://mgs.dnr.md.gov
Frank DingerReturn to Topwrote: [snip] > I assume your experience is based upon using standard penlight AA > alkaline batteries. Try Nickel-metal-hydrate (NiMH)batteries;they > have a capacity of 1100mAh and can be re-charged at any stage of > their discharge cycle without 'memory' problems unlike NiCad > batteries. I use NiMH batteries and am satisfied ,although I haven't > done a full cycle test. I think satisfaction with rechargables (NiMH or NiCad) will vary a lot depending on the voltage requirements of your equipment. With the rechargables carrying 1.25v at full charge compared to 1.5v for a fresh alkaline cell, your receiver may show "low bat" before the rechargable batteries get very discharged. I don't know Garmins low voltage cutout but 4AA (NiMH/NiCad) x 1.25v = 5v for a fresh set of batteries and 4AA (alkaline) x 1.5v = 6v for a fresh set. Some equipment will think your rechargable batteries are low almost as soon as you put them in... Tyler Groo, EMT-B | Rager Emergency Services (RES) "Don't blame them | 171500 Beaver Creek Rd., Paulina, OR 97751 for what I think." | (541) 477-3162/477-3713 BLS ambulance serving parts of Crook/Grant/Wheeler/Harney Counties
As a followup: my Garmin GPS40 claims to be able to both send and receive NMEA sequences, so it presumably does this buffer and forward trick. But the documentation doesn't state what message formats it accepts, whether it forwards them anyway, etc.... Anyone know? J. GilesReturn to Top
DTC21 wrote: > I would like to ask if NMEA uses any media access protocol? > For instance, if there are 2 NMEA talkers sharing the same Tx line, will one wait the other > and avoid collisions like in Ethernet LAN's (CSMA/CD protocol) ? I thought that NMEA devices were meant to be daisy chained. That is, the output of each device is fed to the input of the next device along. Each device would buffer the incoming messages and forward them as time permitted. Presumably each device would discard sentences that were redundant - for example a GPS would not bother to forward $xxGGA messages from other devices since it produces that information itself. I could be wrong about this, since I've never actually done it. But the NMEA descriptions I've read (such as ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/nmeafaq.txt) state this is the proper way. A quote below is typical: On any NMEA-0183 circuit, there can _only_ be one talker. If you must have more than one talker, and one of the talker devices can also act as a listener, you may be able to connect things "in series", so a talker-only output is connected to a listener/talker input, and the listener/talker output is connected to other listeners. However, some listener/talker devices may reformat the data, or only pass data they understand. (The Autohelm Seatalk system does this, and claims the data as it's own, starting all output sentences with "$II".) Hope this helps. J. Giles Ricercar SoftwareReturn to Top
I have heard a rumour that there is a tender out for the deisgn/build of a new set of GPS birds that will transmit around 1309MHz for a high accuracy (NON s/a) system. My interest is that here in the UK this frequency is part of our 23cms amateur band (and is used for ATV repeaters...) It also happens to be shared with high power air traffic control radars..... If anyone has info about this I would be plsd to receive it. Thanks (73) Graham G3VZVReturn to Top